Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread Felix Miata
John Covici composed on 2022-06-18 04:21 (UTC-0400):

> Hi.  I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which
> I am going to use as a voip server.  Now, due to my ignorance, at the
> very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard
> system items.

> Well, to my horror, I got gnome with all its dependencies.  I ran
> apt-get and purged all the gnome items.  However, my outgoing
> connection instead of being in /etc/network/interfaces is now managed
> by network-manager.  I don't want to use the gui, but there seems to
> be no good way to configure the connection, should I need to do so.
> /etc/systemd/network is  empty.

I think nmcli handles anything the GUI could, but I never have NetworkMangler
installed to test it.

> So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces or somehow
> manage the existing connection which is buried in
> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/  and is readable, but I could
> never change it.

Configure the interface in (e.g., for eth0) /etc/systemd/network/eth0.network.
Disable "managed" resolver; populate /etc/resolv.conf.
# systemctl enable systemd-networkd.service
# systemctl disable systemd-networkd-wait-online.service

The above is the short version of how I've been converting all my static
networking installations, which is all of them, minus the laptops. In addition,
your old networking config/system needs to be fully disabled and/or purged.
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Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread John Covici
Thanks everyone, this is what I think I will do, just use
network/interfaces.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:00:27 -0400,
Anssi Saari wrote:
> 
> John Covici  writes:
> 
> > So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces
> 
> This should be simple enough. Uninstall NetworkManager, package
> network-manager, edit /etc/network/interfaces as you like. The
> networking.service is used to run ifup and ifdown to configure and
> reconfigure the network with what's in /etc/network/interfaces.
> 

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Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread Anssi Saari
John Covici  writes:

> So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces

This should be simple enough. Uninstall NetworkManager, package
network-manager, edit /etc/network/interfaces as you like. The
networking.service is used to run ifup and ifdown to configure and
reconfigure the network with what's in /etc/network/interfaces.



Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread John Covici
I did not get that tasksel at all, at the end of the install I had 12
choices, 11 was ssh server and 12 was standard system components and
by mistake I chose 12.  I cannot use the gui, I need speech to read
the screen and I don't want all that bloat running on a voip server.
What if I just put a stanza in /etc/network/interfaces and get rid of
network manager?

On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 07:04:47 -0400,
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 04:21:35AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> > Hi.  I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which
> > I am going to use as a voip server.  Now, due to my ignorance, at the
> > very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard
> > system items.
> > 
> > Well, to my horror, I got gnome with all its dependencies.  I ran
> > apt-get and purged all the gnome items.  However, my outgoing
> > connection instead of being in /etc/network/interfaces is now managed
> > by network-manager.  I don't want to use the gui, but there seems to
> > be no good way to configure the connection, should I need to do so.
> > /etc/systemd/network is  empty.
> > 
> > So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces or somehow
> > manage the existing connection which is buried in
> > /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/  and is readable, but I could
> > never change it.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >  John Covici wb2una
> >  cov...@ccs.covici.com
> >
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I find that nmtui - the text interface is quite useful. It is persistent - 
> configuration will stick around. 
> 
> For anybody else: if you really don't want a GUI at all: if you deselect
> both GNOME and Debian desktop components in the tasksel step of the Debian
> installer then you should get no GUI components. If you then explicitly
> select standard install components lower down in tasksel, you will get
> some X Windows libraries but you will end up with no GUI and no desktop
> environment as far as I recollect. It's necessary to uncheck both the 
> Debian desktop environment AND the default of GNOME which is selected.
> 
> All the very best, as ever,
> 
> Andy Cater 
> 

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Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 04:21:35AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> Hi.  I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which
> I am going to use as a voip server.  Now, due to my ignorance, at the
> very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard
> system items.
> 
> Well, to my horror, I got gnome with all its dependencies.  I ran
> apt-get and purged all the gnome items.  However, my outgoing
> connection instead of being in /etc/network/interfaces is now managed
> by network-manager.  I don't want to use the gui, but there seems to
> be no good way to configure the connection, should I need to do so.
> /etc/systemd/network is  empty.
> 
> So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces or somehow
> manage the existing connection which is buried in
> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/  and is readable, but I could
> never change it.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>  John Covici wb2una
>  cov...@ccs.covici.com
>

Hi John,

I find that nmtui - the text interface is quite useful. It is persistent - 
configuration will stick around. 

For anybody else: if you really don't want a GUI at all: if you deselect
both GNOME and Debian desktop components in the tasksel step of the Debian
installer then you should get no GUI components. If you then explicitly
select standard install components lower down in tasksel, you will get
some X Windows libraries but you will end up with no GUI and no desktop
environment as far as I recollect. It's necessary to uncheck both the 
Debian desktop environment AND the default of GNOME which is selected.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater 



Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread john doe

On 6/18/2022 10:21 AM, John Covici wrote:

Hi.  I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which
I am going to use as a voip server.  Now, due to my ignorance, at the
very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard
system items.

Well, to my horror, I got gnome with all its dependencies.  I ran
apt-get and purged all the gnome items.  However, my outgoing
connection instead of being in /etc/network/interfaces is now managed
by network-manager.  I don't want to use the gui, but there seems to
be no good way to configure the connection, should I need to do so.
/etc/systemd/network is  empty.

So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces or somehow
manage the existing connection which is buried in
/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/  and is readable, but I could
never change it.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



If I may, redo the install from scratch and use '11' to only install
'standard system items' ! :)

To answer your question specifically, you can 'purge' networkmanager
with something like:

$ apt-get --autoremove purge 

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new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread John Covici
Hi.  I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which
I am going to use as a voip server.  Now, due to my ignorance, at the
very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard
system items.

Well, to my horror, I got gnome with all its dependencies.  I ran
apt-get and purged all the gnome items.  However, my outgoing
connection instead of being in /etc/network/interfaces is now managed
by network-manager.  I don't want to use the gui, but there seems to
be no good way to configure the connection, should I need to do so.
/etc/systemd/network is  empty.

So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces or somehow
manage the existing connection which is buried in
/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/  and is readable, but I could
never change it.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici wb2una
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-04 Thread Wolodja Wentland
Dear Peter,

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:56 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 13:32 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:

[... offline bpo kernel install instructions ...]

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 21:45 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
 Wolodja -- thanks, that worked!  My NIC now works, and I am in fact writing
 this e-mail from my Debian workstation!

Great - hope you enjoy it! And you can now install all packages from
backports easily if you have the need to do so :)

May you have a sunny and nice day!

Wolodja
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Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-03 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 13:32 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
 Wolodja -- in looking at the instructions on the backports.org website, I
 surmise that the instructions will download the new packages from the
 backports.org website and then install the updated kernel and everything that
 the updated kernel needs (ie, all its dependencies).
 
 Unfortunately, since the problem I'm trying to solve is that the network
 connection on my Debian workstation isn't supported, I'm assuming that this
 won't work.  I think that leaves me with two options:
 
 1.  Walk through the dependency information provided at backports.org to
 identify all the packages which are needed by the updated kernel; download on
 my working computer (WinXP) and copy to optical or USB drive; use that to do
 the install.
 
 2.  Since my Debian installation is brand new, I could also simply replace the
 Lenny install with a Squeeze install -- essentially, start over Squeeze.
 
 Does option (1) sound utterly unappealing?  I'm inclined to give it a shot,
 knowing that I can always fall back on option (2) if I totally botch (1).

Hehe - Should have anticipated that :)

Given that the (real) kernel package shouldn't have any dependencies you
can just download it directly from backports.org, transfer it to the
computer and install it manually.

In detail:

Download


Get one of the following packages and transfer them using, for example,
an USB stick, to the other computer.

(i)  http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-686
(ii) http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64

Installation


You can install the package with dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb,
reboot your computer and you should then be able to use your NIC.

Post Installation Configuration
---

I would advise you to follow the instructions on backports.org now and
install the linux-image-2.6-{686,amd64} metapackage in addition to the
(real) package installed before and issue the following command:

aptitude markauto linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-{686,amd64}

This will ensure that the newest kernel from backports will always be
installed as linux-image-2.6-{686,amd64} depends on the newest real
kernel package. [2]

A completely different approach would be to use the installer from [1]
which are Lenny installation images with a newer kernel, but that should
not be necessary given that you have already installed Debian.

Have a nice day

Wolodja

[1] http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
[2] I assume that you have configured pinning as detailed on the
backports.org website. 
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Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-03 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
Wolodja -- thanks, that worked!  My NIC now works, and I am in fact writing
this e-mail from my Debian workstation!

-PT

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wolodja -- in looking at the instructions on the backports.org website, I
 surmise that the instructions will download the new packages from the
 backports.org website and then install the updated kernel and everything
 that the updated kernel needs (ie, all its dependencies).

 Unfortunately, since the problem I'm trying to solve is that the network
 connection on my Debian workstation isn't supported, I'm assuming that this
 won't work.  I think that leaves me with two options:

 1.  Walk through the dependency information provided at backports.org to
 identify all the packages which are needed by the updated kernel; download
 on my working computer (WinXP) and copy to optical or USB drive; use that to
 do the install.

 2.  Since my Debian installation is brand new, I could also simply replace
 the Lenny install with a Squeeze install -- essentially, start over Squeeze.

 Does option (1) sound utterly unappealing?  I'm inclined to give it a shot,
 knowing that I can always fall back on option (2) if I totally botch (1).

 -PT


 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wolodja -- the output from the lspci command is

 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:10f0]
 (rev 06)

 Papul -- the kernel is 2.6.26-2-amd64.

 Sounds like I should just go ahead and update my kernel, and that should
 solve some other, unrelated and less critical issues.  I'll try that tonight
 (right now it's 7:15 AM local time and I'm off to work).

 Thanks for the suggestions,
 -PT


 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just finished building a new computer around the Intel DH55TC
 motherboard.  I would like to configure the computer to use DHCP via its
 built-in ethernet tap, but the ethernet was not detected or configured on
 installation.  There is no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, no eth0
 entry displayed by ifconfig, no dhcpd.conf file is present, and dhcpd is not
 listed in inetd.conf.

 I suspect that the problem is that the motherboard is so new that it's
 not supported in the 2.6.26 version of the kernel:  when I looked at the
 Intel webpage relevant to the board,
 http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dh55tc/sb/CS-031186.htm,
 it suggests that a LAN driver may be needed for Linux, and I infer from
 their table of information that this is more likely to be the case for
 kernel versions prior to about 2.6.31.

 So what I think I need to do is the following:

1. Download and install the LAN driver
2. Manually configure the system so that it recognizes the Ethernet
tap
3. Add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
4. add a dhcpd.conf file
5. add dhcpd to inetd.conf.

 Does that sound about right, or is the reality simpler / less simple than
 that?

 Assuming I've got it right:  how do I accomplish step 2?

 Thanks in advance,
 -PT






Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-02 Thread papul
On 6/2/2010 10:41 AM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
 I just finished building a new computer around the Intel DH55TC
 motherboard.  I would like to configure the computer to use DHCP via its
 built-in ethernet tap, but the ethernet was not detected or configured
 on installation.  There is no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, no
 eth0 entry displayed by ifconfig, no dhcpd.conf file is present, and
 dhcpd is not listed in inetd.conf.
 
 I suspect that the problem is that the motherboard is so new that it's
 not supported in the 2.6.26 version of the kernel:  when I looked at the
 Intel webpage relevant to the
 board, 
 http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dh55tc/sb/CS-031186.htm,
 it suggests that a LAN driver may be needed for Linux, and I infer from
 their table of information that this is more likely to be the case for
 kernel versions prior to about 2.6.31.
 
 So what I think I need to do is the following:
 
1. Download and install the LAN driver
2. Manually configure the system so that it recognizes the Ethernet tap
3. Add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
4. add a dhcpd.conf file
5. add dhcpd to inetd.conf.
 
 Does that sound about right, or is the reality simpler / less simple
 than that?
 
 Assuming I've got it right:  how do I accomplish step 2?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 -PT

What is your current kernel version? An update might solve the issue.



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Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-02 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 22:11 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
 I suspect that the problem is that the motherboard is so new that it's not
 supported in the 2.6.26 version of the kernel:  when I looked at the Intel
 webpage relevant to the board, http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/
 desktop/dh55tc/sb/CS-031186.htm, it suggests that a LAN driver may be needed
 for Linux, and I infer from their table of information that this is more 
 likely
 to be the case for kernel versions prior to about 2.6.31.

I think that your issue might be easily solved by installing a newer
kernel. From what I can tell by the little research I've just done is
that your NIC should be supported by the e1000e module, but I am unsure
which version you need exactly. In order to determine that it would help
tremendously if you could post the output of the following command:

lspci -nn | grep -i ethernet

The easiest way to install a new kernel in Lenny is to use the ones from
backports. Follow the instructions given on [1] and install the new
kernel with:

aptitude install -t lenny-backports linux-image-2.6-686

or

aptitude install -t lenny-backports linux-image-2.6-amd64

which depends on the architecture you are using or if you want a 64bit
kernel or not.

Backports ships 2.6.32 these days and looking at [2] confirms that
your chipset - 82578DC - is indeed supported in that kernel version.

good luck

Wolodja

[1] http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
[2] http://tinyurl.com/32tnklm
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Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
Wolodja -- the output from the lspci command is

00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:10f0]
(rev 06)

Papul -- the kernel is 2.6.26-2-amd64.

Sounds like I should just go ahead and update my kernel, and that should
solve some other, unrelated and less critical issues.  I'll try that tonight
(right now it's 7:15 AM local time and I'm off to work).

Thanks for the suggestions,
-PT

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just finished building a new computer around the Intel DH55TC
 motherboard.  I would like to configure the computer to use DHCP via its
 built-in ethernet tap, but the ethernet was not detected or configured on
 installation.  There is no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, no eth0
 entry displayed by ifconfig, no dhcpd.conf file is present, and dhcpd is not
 listed in inetd.conf.

 I suspect that the problem is that the motherboard is so new that it's not
 supported in the 2.6.26 version of the kernel:  when I looked at the Intel
 webpage relevant to the board,
 http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dh55tc/sb/CS-031186.htm,
 it suggests that a LAN driver may be needed for Linux, and I infer from
 their table of information that this is more likely to be the case for
 kernel versions prior to about 2.6.31.

 So what I think I need to do is the following:

1. Download and install the LAN driver
2. Manually configure the system so that it recognizes the Ethernet tap
3. Add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
4. add a dhcpd.conf file
5. add dhcpd to inetd.conf.

 Does that sound about right, or is the reality simpler / less simple than
 that?

 Assuming I've got it right:  how do I accomplish step 2?

 Thanks in advance,
 -PT



Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-02 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:14 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
 Wolodja -- the output from the lspci command is

 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:10f0] (rev
 06)

Yes, [1] confirms that you need at least 2.6.31 for your NIC - I already
outlined the easiest way to install 2.6.32 in the previous mail.

Have a nice day

Wolodja

[1] http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1lspci=8086:10f0
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Re: Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
Wolodja -- in looking at the instructions on the backports.org website, I
surmise that the instructions will download the new packages from the
backports.org website and then install the updated kernel and everything
that the updated kernel needs (ie, all its dependencies).

Unfortunately, since the problem I'm trying to solve is that the network
connection on my Debian workstation isn't supported, I'm assuming that this
won't work.  I think that leaves me with two options:

1.  Walk through the dependency information provided at backports.org to
identify all the packages which are needed by the updated kernel; download
on my working computer (WinXP) and copy to optical or USB drive; use that to
do the install.

2.  Since my Debian installation is brand new, I could also simply replace
the Lenny install with a Squeeze install -- essentially, start over Squeeze.

Does option (1) sound utterly unappealing?  I'm inclined to give it a shot,
knowing that I can always fall back on option (2) if I totally botch (1).

-PT

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wolodja -- the output from the lspci command is

 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:10f0]
 (rev 06)

 Papul -- the kernel is 2.6.26-2-amd64.

 Sounds like I should just go ahead and update my kernel, and that should
 solve some other, unrelated and less critical issues.  I'll try that tonight
 (right now it's 7:15 AM local time and I'm off to work).

 Thanks for the suggestions,
 -PT


 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just finished building a new computer around the Intel DH55TC
 motherboard.  I would like to configure the computer to use DHCP via its
 built-in ethernet tap, but the ethernet was not detected or configured on
 installation.  There is no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, no eth0
 entry displayed by ifconfig, no dhcpd.conf file is present, and dhcpd is not
 listed in inetd.conf.

 I suspect that the problem is that the motherboard is so new that it's not
 supported in the 2.6.26 version of the kernel:  when I looked at the Intel
 webpage relevant to the board,
 http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dh55tc/sb/CS-031186.htm,
 it suggests that a LAN driver may be needed for Linux, and I infer from
 their table of information that this is more likely to be the case for
 kernel versions prior to about 2.6.31.

 So what I think I need to do is the following:

1. Download and install the LAN driver
2. Manually configure the system so that it recognizes the Ethernet
tap
3. Add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
4. add a dhcpd.conf file
5. add dhcpd to inetd.conf.

 Does that sound about right, or is the reality simpler / less simple than
 that?

 Assuming I've got it right:  how do I accomplish step 2?

 Thanks in advance,
 -PT





Configuring ethernet tap on a new Debian install

2010-06-01 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
I just finished building a new computer around the Intel DH55TC motherboard.
 I would like to configure the computer to use DHCP via its built-in
ethernet tap, but the ethernet was not detected or configured on
installation.  There is no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces, no eth0
entry displayed by ifconfig, no dhcpd.conf file is present, and dhcpd is not
listed in inetd.conf.

I suspect that the problem is that the motherboard is so new that it's not
supported in the 2.6.26 version of the kernel:  when I looked at the Intel
webpage relevant to the board,
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dh55tc/sb/CS-031186.htm,
it suggests that a LAN driver may be needed for Linux, and I infer from
their table of information that this is more likely to be the case for
kernel versions prior to about 2.6.31.

So what I think I need to do is the following:

   1. Download and install the LAN driver
   2. Manually configure the system so that it recognizes the Ethernet tap
   3. Add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
   4. add a dhcpd.conf file
   5. add dhcpd to inetd.conf.

Does that sound about right, or is the reality simpler / less simple than
that?

Assuming I've got it right:  how do I accomplish step 2?

Thanks in advance,
-PT


Configuring ethernet driver

2001-08-29 Thread Gary Setter
Hi,

I would like point out a problem with the installation
instructions for Debian. Nowhere does the user receive a hint how
to configure the Ethernet driver. I wasted considerable time
getting my network connection up because I didn't know, 1) what
my Ethernet card driver was and 2)what configuration parameters
it needed.

I did get things up a running. I'd like to feed my experience
back into the documentation. Has anyone else had the same
problem(s) and if so, where could the documentation be improved
to make installation easer?

Gary Setter



RE: Configuring ethernet driver

2001-08-29 Thread Bob Koss

 I would like point out a problem with the installation
 instructions for Debian. Nowhere does the user receive a hint how
 to configure the Ethernet driver. I wasted considerable time
 getting my network connection up because I didn't know, 1) what
 my Ethernet card driver was and 2)what configuration parameters
 it needed.

 I did get things up a running. I'd like to feed my experience
 back into the documentation. Has anyone else had the same
 problem(s) and if so, where could the documentation be improved
 to make installation easer?



I had the same problem. My card wasn't listed. Good thing I had another
computer at my side with net access. A google search turned up the driver to
select. If I didn't have the other computer, I would have been out of luck.


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Senior Consultant   | Object Oriented Design
Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java
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Re: Configuring ethernet driver

2001-08-29 Thread ktb
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 07:29:28PM -0500, Gary Setter wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would like point out a problem with the installation
 instructions for Debian. Nowhere does the user receive a hint how
 to configure the Ethernet driver. I wasted considerable time
 getting my network connection up because I didn't know, 1) what
 my Ethernet card driver was and 2)what configuration parameters
 it needed.


Sounds to me like it was the most valuable part of the install for you.
You learned something:)
 
 I did get things up a running. I'd like to feed my experience
 back into the documentation. Has anyone else had the same
 problem(s) and if so, where could the documentation be improved
 to make installation easer?

I'm a little confused here.  What type of documentation is going to tell
you what network card you have in your computer and what configuration
parameters that card needs for your machine?  If your wishing that the
card was auto detected and installed for you then join the development
team and start coding.  

Running linux often forces you to know something about your computer's
hardware.  Learn where to find the information.  If I don't know what
network card is in a computer, if it has windows installed, I would look
in devices to find out.  If that isn't an option I would pop the cover
and look on the card for the information.  Once you know the card
search google.com/linux for the driver name or the debian-user mail list
or http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/nic.html, etc.

Whether it is hardware/software or the OS you are dealing with, at some 
point you're going to have to read documentation if you want to run linux.
hth,
kent




Re: configuring ethernet?

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 05:08:13AM +, Frank Copeland wrote:

:there was netcfg for redhat.  what do i use in debian?
:
:vi.
:
:Assuming the PCMCIA packages are installed, edit
:/etc/pcmcia/network.opts to suit your setup. Make sure the PCMCIA
:software is running with '/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart'. Then insert the
:NIC and see how it goes.

My responsed missed the laptop part sorry,  while
/etc/network/interfaces will work, /etc/pcmcia/network.opts is a
*much* better way to go.

-Jon



Re: configuring ethernet?

2001-01-19 Thread Mike
Forrest English wrote:
 i have a pcmcia NIC that i want to use in my laptop, i managed to get the
 base system installed from floppies.  but, now after the install, i need
 to setup my network connection.is there an application that i can use
 to do this?  
 
 there was netcfg for redhat.  what do i use in debian?

For PCMCIA cards there's a utility called something like pcnetcfg or
pcnetconfig ... something along those lines, anyway.  IIRC it'll prompt you
for a few things, and then set up the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file for you. 
Then do a 'etc/init.d/pcmcia reload' and all should be well.  It's been a
while since I had to do this on my laptop, but it worked easily.
-- 
Mike Werner  KA8YSD   | He that is slow to believe anything and
  | everything is of great understanding,
'91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the
Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.



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configuring ethernet?

2001-01-18 Thread Forrest English
i have a pcmcia NIC that i want to use in my laptop, i managed to get the
base system installed from floppies.  but, now after the install, i need
to setup my network connection.is there an application that i can use
to do this?  

there was netcfg for redhat.  what do i use in debian?

-- 
Forrest English
http://truffula.net

I don't like this air, but that doesn't
mean I'm going to stop breathing.
-Doug Martsch



Re: configuring ethernet?

2001-01-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:54:28PM -0800, Forrest English wrote:
:i have a pcmcia NIC that i want to use in my laptop, i managed to get the
:base system installed from floppies.  but, now after the install, i need
:to setup my network connection.is there an application that i can use
:to do this?  
:
:there was netcfg for redhat.  what do i use in debian?

edit /etc/network/interfaces

format is:
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
iface lo inet loopback

# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian
  installation
# (network, broadcast and gateway are optional)
iface eth0 inet static
address 128.52.x.x
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 128.52..x.y
broadcast 128.52.x.z
gateway 128.52.x.w

-Jon



Re: configuring ethernet?

2001-01-18 Thread Frank Copeland
On 19 Jan 01 02:54:28 GMT, Forrest English [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have a pcmcia NIC that i want to use in my laptop, i managed to get the
base system installed from floppies.  but, now after the install, i need
to setup my network connection.is there an application that i can use
to do this?  

there was netcfg for redhat.  what do i use in debian?

vi.

Assuming the PCMCIA packages are installed, edit
/etc/pcmcia/network.opts to suit your setup. Make sure the PCMCIA
software is running with '/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart'. Then insert the
NIC and see how it goes.

Frank