Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-15 Thread Joe Hart
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Greg Folkert wrote:
[snip]
 Would you have the key for Debian-Multimedia in the Debian Archive
 Keyring?
 No, but I might make it a little easier for Debian newbies to find it in
 the first place.  Something like a simple script that people could use
 to install the missing multimedia applications/codecs that almost
 everyone wants.  Those who don't want them of course wouldn't need or
 want to use such a script, but having one available and make it plain
 that it was available would stop a lot of people bitching about Debian
 not coming with them in the first place.
 
 So, you are suggesting we include a non-Debian, but Debian associated
 repository. This would infer approval and endorsement. Nope, don't see
 it happening.

No, I am not suggesting that.  I am suggesting that it be simpler for
newbies to find Christian's repository and enable it though.  Most
people want to be able to play the media on the web, and if we're ever
going to get mainstream acceptance, it needs to be simple for new users.

There are a whole lot of people who are ready to make the transition to
the GNU/Linux world, but are afraid of it.  GNU/Linux is ready for the
desktop, but without being able to play media from the start, it makes
it less likely that people to choose Debian as their first distribution
because there are others that can do that.

Perhaps it is better this way, so rather than having to hold the hands
of complete newbies, we get people that have *some* experience with
GNU/Linux and just have to help them learn the Debian Way.  Maybe I'll
just make a script available on my newly forming website.  A simple
little thing that will pull in Christian's key and install some key
packages.  Not hard to do at all, but for a newbie it is too confusing.

(I like the pun)

 Somehow I think this issue has been beaten to death already, but it was
 before my time.  I understand the legal issues involved, but they don't
 apply where I live, at least not yet.
 
 Yep, along with the whole formerly needed nonus stuff.
 
 Being a Debian associated, but not really an Official Debian repository.
 The same goes for volatile. Until they become FULL ON FRIENDSHIP Debian
 repositories, I don't think it'll get into the debian-archive-keyring
 Point well taken.  I agree with (YOU) on this one.  I said I didn't know why,
 now I do.  Personally I don't use that repo, so I don't know that much
 about it.  Thank you for informing me.

Thanks for fixing my English.
 
 I'd be more inclined to use Christian's Repository than the other ones
 out there, that aim at the same niche. 

I agree.  That's why debian-multimedia is the only non-official one in
my sources.list.

Joe
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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?

 W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The  
 following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is  
 not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately using
apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.

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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Rick Thomas


On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:


On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:

Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?



W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems


You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org  
separately using

apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.


Thanks,

Two questions:

1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine  
manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)


2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default debian- 
archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use  
volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?


Enjoy!

Rick


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?

 W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
 following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
 not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

 You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately
 using
 apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
 included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Two questions:
 
 1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
 manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)
 
 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default
 debian-archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
 volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Rick

1) Rick, read the message Kushal Kumaran sent to you.  It tells you.

2) That is a good question.  I have no idea.  Oversight perhaps?  I am
sure if it wasn't there is a good reason for it, but I have no idea what
it could be.

Joe
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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Rick Thomas


On Apr 14, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Kushal Kumaran wrote:


On 4/14/07, Rick Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?


W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems



You don't have the Debian Volatile public key on your apt keyring.
Get etch-volatile.asc from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-volatile/ and then use apt-key add
etch-volatile.asc to add it to your apt keyring.


Thanks!

That worked fine.

Anybody know why it's not included in the standard keys package?

Enjoy!

Rick


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Rick,

On Saturday 14 April 2007 19:33, Rick Thomas wrote:
 1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
 manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)

To be executed as root:

gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de --recv-keys AC583520
gpg --fingerprint  AC583520
# compare the fingerprint with a fingerprint on a machine with a trust path
gpg --export -a AC583520 | apt-key add -


This is for a different key, but besides that, that's it - and you may use a 
different keyserver. 

 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default debian-
 archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
 volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?

volatile is not a official service (yet).


regards,
Holger


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 19:50 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
 Rick Thomas wrote:
  On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
  Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?
 
  W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
  following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
  not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
 
  You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately
  using
  apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
  included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Two questions:
  
  1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
  manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)
  
  2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default
  debian-archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
  volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?

 1) Rick, read the message Kushal Kumaran sent to you.  It tells you.
 
 2) That is a good question.  I have no idea.  Oversight perhaps?  I am
 sure if it wasn't there is a good reason for it, but I have no idea what
 it could be.

Let me ask you this Joe.

Would you have the key for Debian-Multimedia in the Debian Archive
Keyring?

Being a Debian associated, but not really an Official Debian repository.
The same goes for volatile. Until they become FULL ON FRIENDSHIP Debian
repositories, I don't think it'll get into the debian-archive-keyring
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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Greg Folkert wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 19:50 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
 Rick Thomas wrote:
 On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?
 W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
 following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
 not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
 You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately
 using
 apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
 included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.
 Thanks,

 Two questions:

 1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
 manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)

 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default
 debian-archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
 volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?
 1) Rick, read the message Kushal Kumaran sent to you.  It tells you.

 2) That is a good question.  I have no idea.  Oversight perhaps?  I am
 sure if it wasn't there is a good reason for it, but I have no idea what
 it could be.
 
 Let me ask you this Joe.
 
 Would you have the key for Debian-Multimedia in the Debian Archive
 Keyring?

No, but I might make it a little easier for Debian newbies to find it in
the first place.  Something like a simple script that people could use
to install the missing multimedia applications/codecs that almost
everyone wants.  Those who don't want them of course wouldn't need or
want to use such a script, but having one available and make it plain
that it was available would stop a lot of people bitching about Debian
not coming with them in the first place.

Somehow I think this issue has been beaten to death already, but it was
before my time.  I understand the legal issues involved, but they don't
apply where I live, at least not yet.

 
 Being a Debian associated, but not really an Official Debian repository.
 The same goes for volatile. Until they become FULL ON FRIENDSHIP Debian
 repositories, I don't think it'll get into the debian-archive-keyring

Point well taken.  I agree with on this one.  I said I didn't know why,
now I do.  Personally I don't use that repo, so I don't know that much
about it.  Thank you for informing me.

Joe

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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Joe Hart wrote:
 Greg Folkert wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 19:50 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
 Rick Thomas wrote:
 On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?
 W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
 following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
 not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
 You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately
 using
 apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
 included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.
 Thanks,

 Two questions:

 1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
 manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)

 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default
 debian-archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
 volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?
 1) Rick, read the message Kushal Kumaran sent to you.  It tells you.

 2) That is a good question.  I have no idea.  Oversight perhaps?  I am
 sure if it wasn't there is a good reason for it, but I have no idea what
 it could be.
 Let me ask you this Joe.
 
 Would you have the key for Debian-Multimedia in the Debian Archive
 Keyring?
 
 No, but I might make it a little easier for Debian newbies to find it in
 the first place.  Something like a simple script that people could use
 to install the missing multimedia applications/codecs that almost
 everyone wants.  Those who don't want them of course wouldn't need or
 want to use such a script, but having one available and make it plain
 that it was available would stop a lot of people bitching about Debian
 not coming with them in the first place.
 
 Somehow I think this issue has been beaten to death already, but it was
 before my time.  I understand the legal issues involved, but they don't
 apply where I live, at least not yet.
 
 Being a Debian associated, but not really an Official Debian repository.
 The same goes for volatile. Until they become FULL ON FRIENDSHIP Debian
 repositories, I don't think it'll get into the debian-archive-keyring
 
 Point well taken.  I agree with on this one.  I said I didn't know why,
 ^you
 now I do.  Personally I don't use that repo, so I don't know that much
 about it.  Thank you for informing me.
 
 Joe
 
I need to learn to proofread my mail before I hit the send key.  How can
I miss putting the word you in the above (where I corrected it)
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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 21:48 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
 Greg Folkert wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 19:50 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
  Rick Thomas wrote:
  On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
  Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?
  W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
  following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
  not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
  You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately
  using
  apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
  included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.
  Thanks,
 
  Two questions:
 
  1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
  manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)
 
  2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default
  debian-archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
  volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?
  1) Rick, read the message Kushal Kumaran sent to you.  It tells you.
 
  2) That is a good question.  I have no idea.  Oversight perhaps?  I am
  sure if it wasn't there is a good reason for it, but I have no idea what
  it could be.
  
  Let me ask you this Joe.
  
  Would you have the key for Debian-Multimedia in the Debian Archive
  Keyring?
 
 No, but I might make it a little easier for Debian newbies to find it in
 the first place.  Something like a simple script that people could use
 to install the missing multimedia applications/codecs that almost
 everyone wants.  Those who don't want them of course wouldn't need or
 want to use such a script, but having one available and make it plain
 that it was available would stop a lot of people bitching about Debian
 not coming with them in the first place.

So, you are suggesting we include a non-Debian, but Debian associated
repository. This would infer approval and endorsement. Nope, don't see
it happening.

 Somehow I think this issue has been beaten to death already, but it was
 before my time.  I understand the legal issues involved, but they don't
 apply where I live, at least not yet.

Yep, along with the whole formerly needed nonus stuff.

  Being a Debian associated, but not really an Official Debian repository.
  The same goes for volatile. Until they become FULL ON FRIENDSHIP Debian
  repositories, I don't think it'll get into the debian-archive-keyring
 
 Point well taken.  I agree with (YOU) on this one.  I said I didn't know why,
 now I do.  Personally I don't use that repo, so I don't know that much
 about it.  Thank you for informing me.

I'd be more inclined to use Christian's Repository than the other ones
out there, that aim at the same niche. 
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etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-13 Thread Rick Thomas

Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?


W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The  
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is  
not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Thanks!

Rick


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-13 Thread Kushal Kumaran

On 4/14/07, Rick Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?


W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems



You don't have the Debian Volatile public key on your apt keyring.
Get etch-volatile.asc from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-volatile/ and then use apt-key add
etch-volatile.asc to add it to your apt keyring.
--
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