Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson 

linux china wrote:


I know we could try the small CD aprox 180MB or 40MB, but this tiny CD
is very cool, which size is even smaller than the two, but lack of
doc, I don't know how to write these files into media - my CD-disk.



Nothing to extract, just use your burning software and burn the 
debian.iso as a bootable cd.


Here's a good guide for burning an .iso in Windows: 
www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Burning_MEPIS_CD_in_Windows


Here's a good guide for burning an .iso in Linux: 
www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Burning_MEPIS_CD_in_Linux

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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread 明覺 
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:35 AM, linux china  wrote:

> these files are downloaded from Debian tiny CD cdrom folder here ,
>
> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/
>
> The instruction from this page http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst,
> where also tell me that I should write them into the media.
>
> Copied to here,
>
> "Tiny CDs, floppy disks, USB sticks, etc
>
> You can download a couple of image files the size of a floppy disk or
> another removable media of similar small size, write them to the
> media, and then start the installation by booting from that."
>
> I know we could try the small CD aprox 180MB or 40MB, but this tiny CD
> is very cool, which size is even smaller than the two, but lack of
> doc, I don't know how to write these files into media - my CD-disk.

40M has been small enough, what are you still looking for?



>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Victor Padro  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM, linux china 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these
> files
> >
> > You don't need to compile, extract, add, create an iso, whatever...is not
> > necessary as I and others stated before it's already done and you just
> need
> > to download the 40MB iso or the 180MB iso in order to install Debian from
> > the netinstall method and burn it to a CD that's the easy way.
> >
> >>
> >> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz -- isolinux config files for CD
> >> cdrom/initrd.gz -- initrd for use with isolinux to build
> a
> >> CD
> >> cdrom/vmlinuz   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build
> a
> >> CD
> >
> > I guess you extracted those files from the iso you downloaded, am I
> right?
> > or where did you get those files?
> > AFAIK those files come inside the installation CD, DVD and those make the
> CD
> > able to start Debian so, again there is no need to use them to create a
> CD
> > which you can download from the debian site.
> >
> >>
> >> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
> >> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
> >> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
> >> you have any guide to make this iso image?
> >>
> >
> > see above
> >
> >>
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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread Victor Padro 
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:35 PM, linux china  wrote:

> these files are downloaded from Debian tiny CD cdrom folder here ,
>
> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/
>
> The instruction from this page http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst,
> where also tell me that I should write them into the media.
>
> Copied to here,
>
> "Tiny CDs, floppy disks, USB sticks, etc
>
> You can download a couple of image files the size of a floppy disk or
> another removable media of similar small size, write them to the
> media, and then start the installation by booting from that."
>
> I know we could try the small CD aprox 180MB or 40MB, but this tiny CD
> is very cool, which size is even smaller than the two, but lack of
> doc, I don't know how to write these files into media - my CD-disk.
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Victor Padro  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM, linux china 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these
> files
> >
> > You don't need to compile, extract, add, create an iso, whatever...is not
> > necessary as I and others stated before it's already done and you just
> need
> > to download the 40MB iso or the 180MB iso in order to install Debian from
> > the netinstall method and burn it to a CD that's the easy way.
> >
> >>
> >> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz -- isolinux config files for CD
> >> cdrom/initrd.gz -- initrd for use with isolinux to build
> a
> >> CD
> >> cdrom/vmlinuz   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build
> a
> >> CD
> >
> > I guess you extracted those files from the iso you downloaded, am I
> right?
> > or where did you get those files?
> > AFAIK those files come inside the installation CD, DVD and those make the
> CD
> > able to start Debian so, again there is no need to use them to create a
> CD
> > which you can download from the debian site.
> >
> >>
> >> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
> >> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
> >> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
> >> you have any guide to make this iso image?
> >>
> >
> > see above
> >
> >>
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> >
> >
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> > "It is human nature to think wisely and act in an absurd fashion."
> >
> > "Todo el desorden del mundo proviene de las profesiones mal o
> mediocremente
> > servidas"
> >
>

I don't know if I follow you, but AFAIK if you need to install Debian using
network boot you need a debian server configured to iniciate the requests
via network(tftp, dhcp boot, etc.), not an iso or cd.
the only ways to install using an iso or cd/dvd are the ones that you
already know, and there is no need to create an image or iso to do that.
years ago you could install debian using a set of floppy disks, but i don't
know if that method is still working today.
so I don't understand the method you want to use...

here's the info that appears to me in the URL you gave me.

FilenameTimeSize [image: [F]]
MANIFEST
23:59 14-02-091510[image: [F]]
MANIFEST.udebs
23:59 14-02-0937994[image: [F]]
MD5SUMS
23:59 14-02-095057[image: [F]]
udeb.list
23:59 14-02-095778
AFAIK that could not be used to create an iso, there are other files
involved in that process.
maybe someone else can understand what you're trying to achieve...

I'm sorry.

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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread linux china 
these files are downloaded from Debian tiny CD cdrom folder here ,
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/

The instruction from this page http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst,
where also tell me that I should write them into the media.

Copied to here,

"Tiny CDs, floppy disks, USB sticks, etc

You can download a couple of image files the size of a floppy disk or
another removable media of similar small size, write them to the
media, and then start the installation by booting from that."

I know we could try the small CD aprox 180MB or 40MB, but this tiny CD
is very cool, which size is even smaller than the two, but lack of
doc, I don't know how to write these files into media - my CD-disk.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Victor Padro  wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM, linux china  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these files
>
> You don't need to compile, extract, add, create an iso, whatever...is not
> necessary as I and others stated before it's already done and you just need
> to download the 40MB iso or the 180MB iso in order to install Debian from
> the netinstall method and burn it to a CD that's the easy way.
>
>>
>> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz     -- isolinux config files for CD
>> cdrom/initrd.gz                 -- initrd for use with isolinux to build a
>> CD
>> cdrom/vmlinuz                   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build a
>> CD
>
> I guess you extracted those files from the iso you downloaded, am I right?
> or where did you get those files?
> AFAIK those files come inside the installation CD, DVD and those make the CD
> able to start Debian so, again there is no need to use them to create a CD
> which you can download from the debian site.
>
>>
>> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
>> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
>> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
>> you have any guide to make this iso image?
>>
>
> see above
>
>>
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>
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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread Victor Padro 
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM, linux china  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these files
>

You don't need to compile, extract, add, create an iso, whatever...is not
necessary as I and others stated before it's already done and you just need
to download the 40MB iso or the 180MB iso in order to install Debian from
the netinstall method and burn it to a CD that's the easy way.


>
> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz -- isolinux config files for CD
> cdrom/initrd.gz -- initrd for use with isolinux to build a
> CD
> cdrom/vmlinuz   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build a
> CD
>

I guess you extracted those files from the iso you downloaded, am I right?
or where did you get those files?
AFAIK those files come inside the installation CD, DVD and those make the CD
able to start Debian so, again there is no need to use them to create a CD
which you can download from the debian site.


> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
> you have any guide to make this iso image?
>
>
see above


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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty 
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:41:24PM +0800, linux china wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Victor Padro  wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
> >> 2009/3/14 linux china 

> >>> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these
> >>> files
> >>>
> >>> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz ? ? -- isolinux config files for CD
> >>> cdrom/initrd.gz ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- initrd for use with isolinux to build
> >>> a CD
> >>> cdrom/vmlinuz ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- kernel for use with isolinux to build
> >>> a CD
> >>>
> >>> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
> >>> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
> >>> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
> >>> you have any guide to make this iso image?
> >>
> >> I believe there's a netinst iso for that to save you from the hassle.
> >> http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

> > From http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst:
> >
> > "Instead of getting a full 650MB CD image, you just download a CD image file
> > which contains the bare essentials necessary to install the rest. It is
> > necessary to have access to a CD recorder in order to use this. The
> > following are image files which are up to 180?MB in size, making them
> > suitable for writing to small CD-R(W) media, 80?mm/3.1" in diameter"
> >
> > and:
> >
> > "The following are image files which are up to 40?MB in size, making them
> > suitable for writing to business card-shaped CDs (available in differing
> > sizes, e.g. 58?75?mm/2.3?3" in diameter)"
> >
> > Umarzuki is right you should install Debian using the net install method,
> > it's easier.
> >
> > Here is some info for what you requested:
> > http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall
> > and:
> > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
> > please read.
 
>> but all these docs don't tell me how to make the iso file for tiny CD
> from the files downloaded.

There is only one file to download, the particular .iso file you need,
as suggested the netinst.iso.

Once you have the .iso file, you use whatever software you want on
whatever computer you want to burn that .iso to a CD.

Doug.


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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-15 Thread linux china 
but all these docs don't tell me how to make the iso file for tiny CD
from the files downloaded.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Victor Padro  wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/14 linux china 
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these
>>> files
>>>
>>> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz     -- isolinux config files for CD
>>> cdrom/initrd.gz                 -- initrd for use with isolinux to build
>>> a CD
>>> cdrom/vmlinuz                   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build
>>> a CD
>>>
>>> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
>>> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
>>> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
>>> you have any guide to make this iso image?
>>
>> I believe there's a netinst iso for that to save you from the hassle.
>> http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Umarzuki Mochlis
>> http://gameornot.net
>
> From http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst:
>
> "Instead of getting a full 650MB CD image, you just download a CD image file
> which contains the bare essentials necessary to install the rest. It is
> necessary to have access to a CD recorder in order to use this. The
> following are image files which are up to 180 MB in size, making them
> suitable for writing to small CD-R(W) media, 80 mm/3.1" in diameter"
>
> and:
>
> "The following are image files which are up to 40 MB in size, making them
> suitable for writing to business card-shaped CDs (available in differing
> sizes, e.g. 58×75 mm/2.3×3" in diameter)"
>
> --
>
> Umarzuki is right you should install Debian using the net install method,
> it's easier.
>
> Here is some info for what you requested:
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall
> and:
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
> please read.
>
> Cya.
>
> --
> "It is human nature to think wisely and act in an absurd fashion."
>
> "Todo el desorden del mundo proviene de las profesiones mal o mediocremente
> servidas"
>


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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-14 Thread Victor Padro 
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:

>
>
> 2009/3/14 linux china 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these files
>>
>> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz -- isolinux config files for CD
>> cdrom/initrd.gz -- initrd for use with isolinux to build a
>> CD
>> cdrom/vmlinuz   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build a
>> CD
>>
>> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
>> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
>> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
>> you have any guide to make this iso image?
>>
>
> I believe there's a netinst iso for that to save you from the hassle.
> http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://gameornot.net
>

>From http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst:

"Instead of getting a full 650MB CD image, you just download a CD image file
which contains the bare essentials necessary to install the rest. It is
necessary to have access to a CD recorder in order to use this. The
following are image files which are up to 180 MB in size, making them
suitable for writing to small CD-R(W) media, 80 mm/3.1" in diameter"

and:

"The following are image files which are up to 40 MB in size, making them
suitable for writing to business card-shaped CDs (available in differing
sizes, e.g. 58×75 mm/2.3×3" in diameter)"

--

Umarzuki is right you should install Debian using the net install method,
it's easier.

Here is some info for what you requested:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall
and:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
please read.

Cya.

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"Todo el desorden del mundo proviene de las profesiones mal o mediocremente
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Re: install from tiny CD

2009-03-13 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis 
2009/3/14 linux china 

> Hi,
>
> The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these files
>
> cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz -- isolinux config files for CD
> cdrom/initrd.gz -- initrd for use with isolinux to build a
> CD
> cdrom/vmlinuz   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build a
> CD
>
> But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
> uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
> guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
> you have any guide to make this iso image?
>

I believe there's a netinst iso for that to save you from the hassle.
http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

>
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install from tiny CD

2009-03-13 Thread linux china 
Hi,

The debian 5.0 has a tiny CD installation method, I downloaded these files

cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz -- isolinux config files for CD
cdrom/initrd.gz -- initrd for use with isolinux to build a CD
cdrom/vmlinuz   -- kernel for use with isolinux to build a CD

But I dont' know how to make a iso with these files, Do I need to
uncompress the debian-cd_info.tgz and how about initrd.gz, I 'm
guessing to specify vmlinuz as the boot file when making the iso, do
you have any guide to make this iso image?


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