libc5 / libc6
Hi, I am having problems with mp3enc (not a Debian package - commercial product) which wants libc5 libraries: ldd mp3enc31 libm.so.5 = not found libc.so.5 = not found I am not mad enough to mess with libc versions lightly :-) I decided to see if asking APT to install the libc5 package in simulate mode would suggest the removal of libc6 and it doesn't, which suggests I could simply install the libc5 package. However, I'm too scared to do it without checking that I'm not going to break everything. Can anyone reassure me? Thanks, Liam Liam Ward DV4 t: +353 1 672 7250 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.dv4.com
Re: libc5 / libc6
Liam Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to see if asking APT to install the libc5 package in simulate mode would suggest the removal of libc6 and it doesn't, which suggests I could simply install the libc5 package. However, I'm too scared to do it without checking that I'm not going to break everything. I am running WordPerfect which requires libc5 and, consequently, I have libc5 installed as well as libc6. It has caused me no problems whatsoever. Barry Samuels
upgrade (bo-hamm), libc5 - libc6 concerns
Hi, Just a few q's about why I should upgrade to hamm (Debain 2.0). Are there any issues on what software I can and can't run when doing the libc5-libc6 upgrade? I know this is an old subject, but i've never really got a plain english answer as to what are the issues. I tried upgrading my box at work (dual boot) using autoup.sh, but of course we're stuck with MS i.e. 3, so instead of downloading relevant *.debs as blah.blah.blah I got blah_blah.blah, which buggered up autoup.sh. I then tried upgrading by hand, unsuccesfully, as I could not find a clear explanation of how to do it by hand (the libc5-libc6 mini-howto just didn't work - no end of crap got broke and it's taking me hours just to sort thins out one at a time [yes, i did run dselect after the initial upgrade sveral times...]). So, my machines at home - I've got hold of Linux Actual's (spain) deb 2.0 CDs, but just what will I get by upgrading? Will my ppp setup continue working? Staroffice 4.0? Netscape? An idiots guide appreciated! I'm not a complete novice, but my single upgrade attempt broke big-time and 'once bitten twice shy' as they say, Guidance gratefully received, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
libc5 = libc6
Hello, I'm trying to install JDK 1.1. To install the JDK 1.1 I need to install libc6. My question: Will this affect previously installed packages depending on libc5 in a negative way? /Tomas Petersson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question about libc5 - libc6 upgrade.
Hi Folks, I was considering upgrading to hamm, but my wonderfull ISP just decided that it was going to charge $0.25 for every Meg over 300M downloaded each month. Given that I almost use that anyway, it'll take me about a year to download hamm without it costing me a fortune... Anyway, I would like to get my hands on some of the hamm packages, so I thought I'd maybe just start by upgrading to libc6 and taking it from there. I've read the mini-HOWTO, and got all the needed packages, but before I take the plunge, just wanted to make sure all was clear... Am I likely to break much if i just upgrade those packages listed in the mini-HOWTO? Have many people done this succesfully, and if so, is there anything in particular (other than what is listed in the HOWTO) that I should be aware of? Thanks, Damon Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web Page: www.sub.net.au/~tr It's not a sense of humor. It's ICQ UIN:2920281 a sense of irony disguised as one. PGP Key ID: 0x232C09E1 - Bruce Sterling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about libc5 - libc6 upgrade.
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Damon Muller wrote: Hi Folks, I was considering upgrading to hamm, but my wonderfull ISP just decided that it was going to charge $0.25 for every Meg over 300M downloaded each month. Given that I almost use that anyway, it'll take me about a year to download hamm without it costing me a fortune... Can't you change your ISP? Is it the only one in your area... Liran Zvibel. Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web Page: www.sub.net.au/~tr It's not a sense of humor. It's ICQ UIN:2920281 a sense of irony disguised as one. PGP Key ID: 0x232C09E1 - Bruce Sterling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problemas libc5---libc6
Hola otra vez: Siguiendo con los problemillas de libc5--libc6. Instale el paquete libforms0.88_0.88.1-1.deb + el -dev y el -bin y ahora al ejecutar el programa News-peruser me dice can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88' y si que la tengo en /usr/X11R6/lib y, obviamente, la ruta esta en el fichero ld.so.conf. Alguna sugerencia... M. Pascual mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mpascual.ddns.org -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset = Latin1 mQBtAzTsrfEAAAEDAMSCRxEungod2qswlrTHayDKpdO9olev2Zd0wQGhmrSm2yOZ dUmKZMCAZqWeFR+Zeo3dULZ6UmH2zvTLM38lIFZ71LiOJ6Xj1+B/dYtFc4Qnmc7E 2IdJ6NRienHdip2BrQAFEbQeTVBhc2N1YWwgPG1wYXNjdWFsQHJlZGVzdGIuZXM+ iQB1AwUQNOyt8WJ6cd2KnYGtAQEwigL+M5rLL7i659srdbUlKL/UyeB8Arvkgw/u l+JtlmIcsJTrnKXj00I/JXgjlMfRDvXph0H3dHnRREDzgrYB3jQ25L+1+W+3dM32 ik/eaeLMnQgzYKxQJdjHh2MYOHcFlgbE =M+Om -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problemas libc5 --libc6
Hola a todos: Pues que resulta que haciendo el cambio de la libc5 a la libc6, me han surgido una serie de problemillas. He realizado el cambio con el script autoup.sh y he seguido al pie de la letras las intrucciones cambiando todos los ficheros que solicita; el sistema funciona excepto algunos pequeños detalles que os expongo. El netscape no se me ejecuta y me da los siguientes errores: errores netscape: locale `es_ES' not supported by Xlib; trying `C'. netscape: locale `C' not supported either. ((tengo las xlib6_3.3-6.deb y xlib6g_3.3-6.deb y locales_2.0.7pre1-4.deb)) If the $XNLSPATH directory does not contain the proper config files, ((tengo definida la variable $XNLSPATH)) netscape: The Motif keysyms seem not to be defined. This is usually because the proper XKeysymDB file was not found. You can set the $XKEYSYMDB environment variable to the location ((tengo definida la variable $XKEYSYMDB, aunque antes del cambio no la tenia y funcionaba; y he apuntado con ella tanto al XKeysymDB que proporciona netscape como al del sistema)) (An appropriate XKeysymDB file was included with the Netscape distribution.) Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate Warning: translation table syntax error: %s ((unos cientos de Warnings mas ...)) Warning: ... found while parsing 'KeyosfCopy:ListCopyToClipboard()' Warning: ... found while parsing '%s' Error del bus --- error --- y al final acaba con este error y mantiene el fichero de bloqueo (lock) en el directorio .netscape Tambien me he dado cuenta que cuando el sistema me pide confirmacion para algo (borrar, sobreescribir, etc.) me sale el mensaje en español lo que sea s/n si pulso s no se entera y no hace nada, pero si pulso y realiza la accion; por lo que deduzco que me saca el mensaje en castellano pero necesita la confirmacion en ingles. Alguna sugerencia... M. Pascual mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mpascual.ddns.org -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset = Latin1 mQBtAzTsrfEAAAEDAMSCRxEungod2qswlrTHayDKpdO9olev2Zd0wQGhmrSm2yOZ dUmKZMCAZqWeFR+Zeo3dULZ6UmH2zvTLM38lIFZ71LiOJ6Xj1+B/dYtFc4Qnmc7E 2IdJ6NRienHdip2BrQAFEbQeTVBhc2N1YWwgPG1wYXNjdWFsQHJlZGVzdGIuZXM+ iQB1AwUQNOyt8WJ6cd2KnYGtAQEwigL+M5rLL7i659srdbUlKL/UyeB8Arvkgw/u l+JtlmIcsJTrnKXj00I/JXgjlMfRDvXph0H3dHnRREDzgrYB3jQ25L+1+W+3dM32 ik/eaeLMnQgzYKxQJdjHh2MYOHcFlgbE =M+Om -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 01:58:29PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:01:10PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm machine. The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I get this: This means that there is an upstream problem. If you do not sources, there is nothing you can do but complain. Any idea what they could have done to cause this? They are working with the developer right now to try to come up with a solution. They're running RedHat. It could be that their binaries or libraries have been linked with -rpath (causing the directory search path to be hardwired into binaries); this has caused problems with Red Hat / Triteal CDE on a hamm system. You can use objdump --all-headers on the binaries and libraries to check if there's an RPATH setting. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 09:32:48AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 01:58:29PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:01:10PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm machine. The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I get this: This means that there is an upstream problem. If you do not sources, there is nothing you can do but complain. Any idea what they could have done to cause this? They are working with the developer right now to try to come up with a solution. They're running RedHat. It could be that their binaries or libraries have been linked with -rpath (causing the directory search path to be hardwired into binaries); this has caused problems with Red Hat / Triteal CDE on a hamm system. You can use objdump --all-headers on the binaries and libraries to check if there's an RPATH setting. There is no rpath. This is a message I got back from their tech support people. Can anyone think of a workaround? I hate to go back to bo. -- cut here -- Hello Jeff, I'm afraid I don't have a good answer for you. We have had a similar problem with Red Hat 5.0 and the following statement was made by our development manager: This release 2.0.XXX of Velocis will *not* be compatible with libc.6 (glibc-2) based Linux releases such as Red Hat 5.0. Because of the drastic nature of the changes to libc (and indirectly the thread library) in these versions, applications built to be compatbile with the earlier versions of Linux, such as 4.2, must continue to use the set of dynamic libraries included with libc.5 on previous Linuxes. However, because libpthread.0.5 and libpthread.0.6 cannot usefully coexist on the same system (since they have the same major version number) and libpthread.0.6 is linked to libc.6, the set of libraries needed by Velocis is not completely provided by the backward compatibility set of libraries. While this problem could probably have been worked around by a change in the linkage of some libraries to Velocis, it would have been of minimal value. This is the case because Velocis libraries are 'libc.5' libraries themselves and any database application requiring them would have to be built in a complete 'libc.5' development environment (i.e., compiler configuration, include files, libraries). While some piecemeal upgraded systems may have such a configuration, the distributions of the new versions of Linux (e.g., Red Hat 5.0) do not appear to include all the necessary components. Because of the drastic nature of the changes to libc as well as the substantial changes to headers and threading support incorporated in the newest versions of Linux, converting a large and complicated application such as Velocis to it and assuring its quality are not a trivial exercise, even disregarding the inevitable problems in such a substantially modified OS environment early in its own release cycle. It is Raima's goal to provide a high quality and usable product. Our evaluation of the above factors augmented by experiments with Red Hat 5.0 indicated that it would not be possible to meet these goals within the timeline of this release. It is our intention to have a libc.6 compatible version available with the next release of Velocis. In addition, I checked specifically with our Linux guru, and got this reply: This is pretty much the same problem that was originally affecting us on Red Hat 5.0. If for whatever reason the dynamic linker thinks you are linked to two different versions of libc, you die and die very early. As with Red Hat 5.0, unless the customer has a complete libc5 environment on his system (compilers, libraries, includes, etc.) he might as well not mess with it as he will be heading into the same morass that brought the Red Hat 5.0 customer to a stop. If he does by some chance have the full libc5 environment, this problem can probably be worked around, possible by messing with the dynamic library path. It may be that the Debian versions of the libc libraries are not so incompatible, but we cannot test that ourselves. My only other suggestion at this point would be to continue the evaluation on another platform. Scott Meder indicated to me that you also run with AIX, as well as Windows/NT. Both of these are included on the evaluation CD. -- cut here -- -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 08:44:33AM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote: There is no rpath. This is a message I got back from their tech support people. Can anyone think of a workaround? I hate to go back to bo. -- cut here -- [... However, because libpthread.0.5 and libpthread.0.6 cannot usefully coexist on the same system (since they have the same major version number) and libpthread.0.6 is linked to libc.6, the set of libraries needed by Velocis is not completely provided by the backward compatibility set of libraries. While this problem could probably have been worked around by a change in the linkage of some libraries to Velocis, I suspect this means: link the required libc5 pthread in statically. it would have been of minimal value. This is the case because Velocis libraries are 'libc.5' libraries themselves and any database application requiring them would have to be built in a complete 'libc.5' development environment (i.e., compiler configuration, include files, libraries). While some piecemeal upgraded systems may have such a configuration, the distributions of the new versions of Linux (e.g., Red Hat 5.0) do not appear to include all the necessary components. I disagree with this statement. Debian 2.0 will have packages to run _and develop_ libc5 binaries. If Red Hat doesn't, that's their problem. Debian users should not suffer because of Red Hat developer's decisions to omit this capability. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
Thanks for your comments! I was able to fix the problem by installing libpthread.so.5 in a special directory and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Jeff -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm machine. The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I get this: teljenpc:~/bin$ ldd rds lib_exif.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_exif.so (0x4000a000) lib_adm.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_adm.so (0x4000c000) lib_rdm.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_rdm.so (0x40024000) lib_sched.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_sched.so (0x4007e000) lib_rpc.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_rpc.so (0x40085000) lib_ncp.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_ncp.so (0x40091000) lib_rm.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_rm.so (0x40099000) lib_uapi.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_uapi.so (0x400b1000) lib_dict.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_dict.so (0x400b3000) lib_enc.so = /home/velocis/bin/lib_enc.so (0x400b9000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x400bb000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x400c4000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400c7000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x400d4000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40193000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40236000) Notice how ld-linux.so.2 and libc.so.6 are in there, along with libc5! What can I do about this? I suspect it isn't easy to downgrade to bo! Thanks, Jeff -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm machine. The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I get this: This means that there is an upstream problem. If you do not sources, there is nothing you can do but complain. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!
On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:01:10PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm machine. The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I get this: This means that there is an upstream problem. If you do not sources, there is nothing you can do but complain. Any idea what they could have done to cause this? They are working with the developer right now to try to come up with a solution. They're running RedHat. Thanks, Jeff -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape doesn't work (libc5/libc6)
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 30 Jan 1998, William R. Ward wrote: I'm running hamm and I can't get Netscape to work. I know it's probably a problem with libc5 vs libc6, and that I probably need to reinstall one or more libc5 files, but I don't know which ones! I ran ldd and strace and the output is attached here. I just don't know how to read the output of these programs in order to find out what to install. Any help would be most appreciated. Here's the output of ldd: /lib/nfslock.so = /lib/nfslock.so (0x4000c000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000e000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40056000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4005f000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40074000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40086000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40094000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400a) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40143000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40146000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40204000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4020d000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x402af000) And here's the output of strace: snipped output Tell me, what version of the xlib6 and xlib6g packages do you have installed? Probably they are too old. I think you upgraded them to hamm when they didn't work with netscape and left them in this state. Try upgrading them to the latest version. xlib6 and xlib6g are both version 3.3.1-2 which I believe is the latest and greates from hamm. I keep my system right on the bleeding edge... I even tried reinstalling xlib6 just in case that helped. What version of Netscape are you using? The above was from netscape Communicator 4. I removed that and will try installing netscape 3 instead. What I get is this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000c000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004e000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40057000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006c000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4007e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008c000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40097000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40135000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40138000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401f6000) Once the libc.so.6 stops showing up I think you are safe. In general, it is a bad thing if libc.so.5 and libc.so.6 both show up in ldd's output. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1803 Mission St. #339voicemail +1 408/479-4072 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-8862 PGP Key 0x2BD331E5; Public key at http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/pubkey.txt - Take off all your clothes and walk down the street waving a machete and firing an Uzi, and terrified citizens will phone the police and report: There's a naked person outside! - Mike Nichols -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape doesn't work (libc5/libc6)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Ward) writes: I'm running hamm and I can't get Netscape to work. I know it's probably a problem with libc5 vs libc6, and that I probably need to reinstall one or more libc5 files, but I don't know which ones! I ran ldd and strace and the output is attached here. I just don't know how to read the output of these programs in order to find out what to install. [snip output of ldd/strace] Turns out that the problem was fixed by some combination of: 1. Re-running ldconfig 2. Removing $LD_LIBRARY_PATH from my .cshrc Thanks to those of you who had suggestions ... if you are having similar problems, try these two things. --Bill. -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1803 Mission St. #339voicemail +1 408/479-4072 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-8862 PGP Key 0x2BD331E5; Public key at http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/pubkey.txt - Take off all your clothes and walk down the street waving a machete and firing an Uzi, and terrified citizens will phone the police and report: There's a naked person outside! - Mike Nichols -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape doesn't work (libc5/libc6)
On 30 Jan 1998, William R. Ward wrote: I'm running hamm and I can't get Netscape to work. I know it's probably a problem with libc5 vs libc6, and that I probably need to reinstall one or more libc5 files, but I don't know which ones! I ran ldd and strace and the output is attached here. I just don't know how to read the output of these programs in order to find out what to install. Any help would be most appreciated. Here's the output of ldd: /lib/nfslock.so = /lib/nfslock.so (0x4000c000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000e000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40056000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4005f000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40074000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40086000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40094000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400a) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40143000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40146000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40204000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4020d000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x402af000) And here's the output of strace: snipped output Tell me, what version of the xlib6 and xlib6g packages do you have installed? Probably they are too old. I think you upgraded them to hamm when they didn't work with netscape and left them in this state. Try upgrading them to the latest version. What I get is this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000c000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004e000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40057000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006c000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4007e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008c000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40097000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40135000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40138000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401f6000) Once the libc.so.6 stops showing up I think you are safe. In general, it is a bad thing if libc.so.5 and libc.so.6 both show up in ldd's output. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape doesn't work (libc5/libc6)
I'm running hamm and I can't get Netscape to work. I know it's
probably a problem with libc5 vs libc6, and that I probably need to
reinstall one or more libc5 files, but I don't know which ones! I ran
ldd and strace and the output is attached here. I just don't know how
to read the output of these programs in order to find out what to
install.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Here's the output of ldd:
/lib/nfslock.so = /lib/nfslock.so (0x4000c000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000e000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40056000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4005f000)
libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40074000)
libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40086000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40094000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400a)
libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40143000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40146000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40204000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4020d000)
ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x402af000)
And here's the output of strace:
execve(/usr/lib/netscape/netscape, [/usr/lib/netscape/netscape], [/* 31
vars */]) = 0
mmap(0, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x40007000
mprotect(0x4000, 20961, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
mprotect(0x8048000, 7445109, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
stat(/etc/ld.so.cache, {st_mode=0, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY) = 3
mmap(0, 11602, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0x40008000
close(3)= 0
stat(/etc/ld.so.preload, {st_mode=0, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= 3
mmap(0, 17, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4000b000
close(3)= 0
open(/lib/nfslock.so, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 8192, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000c000
mmap(0x4000c000, 3154, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) =
0x4000c000
mmap(0x4000d000, 3376, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) =
0x4000d000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4000c000, 3154, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
munmap(0x4000b000, 17) = 0
open(/usr/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 294912, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000e000
mmap(0x4000e000, 274999, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) =
0x4000e000
mmap(0x40052000, 12216, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3,
0x43000) = 0x40052000
mmap(0x40055000, 1452, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40055000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4000e000, 274999, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/lib/libSM.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 36864, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40056000
mmap(0x40056000, 27961, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) =
0x40056000
mmap(0x4005d000, 4908, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x6000)
= 0x4005d000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x40056000, 27961, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/lib/libICE.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 86016, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4005f000
mmap(0x4005f000, 71871, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) =
0x4005f000
mmap(0x40071000, 3516, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x11000)
= 0x40071000
mmap(0x40072000, 6696, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40072000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4005f000, 71871, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/lib/libXmu.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 73728, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40074000
mmap(0x40074000, 63121, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) =
0x40074000
mmap(0x40084000, 3832, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3,
v0.14 of libc5-libc6 autoupgrade script
the latest version of the auto-upgrade script is available from http://www.taz.net.au/autoup changes since the last public release (v0.11): v0.12: (Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - modified to fix errors encountered when upgrading a rex filesystem: - force removal of essential package timezone before installing timezones - remove xmanpages (if they are present before removing xlib6-dev.) - remove perl-suid and perl-debug before upgrading perl-base and perl.) - install ldso with a separate command from installing libc6 so ldso will be setup before libc6 is installed. - remove exit-on-error from installation of perl-base and perl - configure --pending after perl installation. - saved names of removed packages in a file v0.13: (Craig Sanders) - fixed globbing problem again for PKGS_LDSO and PKGS_LIBC6 - some cosmetic changes - i didn't like the idea of redirecting error messages to /dev/null so i got rid of it. I may use tee to save the output of this script in a log file in some hypotherical later version. - '|| exit 9' on the 'dpkg --configure --pending' line after installing perl. v0.14: (Craig Sanders) - in v0.12, localebin was accidentally deleted from list of packages to be removed. fixed. craig ps: scott, you probably want to put this version on your autoup page. pps: could whoever runs the dpkg bot in #debian make the bot send this script when it sees 'dpgk !autoup'? -- craig sanders -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Libc5 / Libc6
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Ian Gill Watkins wrote: I want to upgrade one or two of the packages on my system beyond the stable distribution. The newer packages are all requiring libc6, but that conflicts (in DSELECT) with libc5 which is a dependence to a _very_ large number of programs. =:| What should I do? Forget it and wait? If you want to upgrade to libc6, read the mini-HOWTO about the upgrade. It involves upgrading libc5 to a version that doesn't conflict with libc6, so your libc5-based programs will still run. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5 - libc6 Upgrade Roadmap?
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Scott Ellis wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: * I am downloading the entire hamm binary-i386, contrib and non-free tree to a directory (actually, my home directory) on an NFS server. Is there a possibility that NFS might stop working during the upgrade process? Remote NFS filesystems won't break, that is built into the kernel. Exported NFS filesystems will be off for the time it takes to update netstd. upgrade netbase and netstd by hand with dpkg before running dselect to minimise NFS downtime. 1. run the auto upgrade script to get safely to a libc6 system 2. run dpkg -i on netbase and netstd 3. run dselect and upgrade everything. craig -- craig sanders -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
Hi, Thanks to the help of the fine folks in this mailing list, I was able to upgrade to hamm reasonably easily. I am still poking around my system to find out problems with the upgrade. After the upgrade, I am unable to log into my machine with a username in YP. $ cat /etc/passwd ...some stuff... +::0:0::: $ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf passwd: db files group: db files shadow: db files hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: db files $ ypcat passwd|grep thaths thaths:snip:8022:690:Sudhakar Chandrasekharan:/u/thaths:/bin/bash When I am able to ypcat and grep my password entry, why am I unable to login with this username? I have also been unable to su to this username. Sudhakar -- Programming in X Windows is like trying to find the square root of pi using roman numerals Sudhakar C13n (650) 937-2354 (O) International Websites Engineer (650) 940-1896 (H) http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 09:26:27PM -0800, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: After the upgrade, I am unable to log into my machine with a username in YP. $ cat /etc/passwd ...some stuff... +::0:0::: OK $ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf passwd: db files group: db files shadow: db files For these three replace db files with compat and you should be done. And, yes, nsswitch.conf is the place to look for. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L Linus Torvalds, W Winfried Truemper | | Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit | * Wworking today and rise on easter? * pgptFxE7KGZiE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Panic - Re: libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
Nils Rennebarth wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 09:26:27PM -0800, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: After the upgrade, I am unable to log into my machine with a username in YP. $ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf passwd: db files group: db files shadow: db files For these three replace db files with compat and you should be done. And, yes, nsswitch.conf is the place to look for. How should it read? The HOWTO mentions this but does not give an example. Could you give me an example. Also, I am in Panic Mode now. I have changed some stuff in nsswitch.conf [possibly adding nis to the passed entry or something like that. nsswitch.conf did not have a man page]. I got back to work this morning and tried to log in as root and login failed. Could not log in with a username from NIS either. I decided (unwisely, it seems) to reboot. Upon reboot the various daemons in /etc/init.d/ are started and the machine seems (I say seems because I did not wait long enough to see if it really does) to hang while starting postgres (under /usr/local). As I see it, here are my options - * Try to see if the boot sequence is really hanging by giving it enouch time. If it manages to proceed with the rest of the boot sequence and gets me into the login prompt, I have to try my luck with loggin in as root. * If I am unable to log in as root, how do I fix what I did to nsswitch.conf? I was sensible enough to backup the old file before making the changes. I am unable to locate my emergency disk (or whatever it is called). Can I use the Debian 1.3 distribution's installation boot disks, mount /dev/sdb3 as root and fix the problem and then try rebooting with my regular custom boot disk? How? * Ideally, I'd prefer booting up into NT and being able to access the ext2 partition. I remember reading somewhere that there is a device driver for reading / writing into an ext2 partition for NT. Help me Obi Wan. You are my last hope. ;-) Sudhakar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Panic - Re: libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: Also, I am in Panic Mode now. * If I am unable to log in as root, how do I fix what I did to nsswitch.conf? I was sensible enough to backup the old file before making the changes. I am unable to locate my emergency disk (or whatever it is called). Can I use the Debian 1.3 distribution's installation boot disks, mount /dev/sdb3 as root and fix the problem and then try rebooting with my regular custom boot disk? How? Yes, this is The Universal Way To Do It. It also explains why people wonder Why did they call the installation bootdisk `rescue disk'? Type at the lilo prompt linux root=/dev/where your root filesystem is If that doesn't work, try linux emergency root=/dev/blah. Or if even that fails, just hit enter and goto the second virtual console with alt-F2 and mount the /dev/blah on /mnt. You don't get to use emacs to edit the fsck'ed conffiles then though. * Ideally, I'd prefer booting up into NT and being able to access the ext2 partition. I remember reading somewhere that there is a device driver for reading / writing into an ext2 partition for NT. AFAIK it's still rather beta and read-only. Good luck, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Panic - Re: libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 09:18:55AM -0800, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: Nils Rennebarth wrote: passwd: db files group: db files shadow: db files For these three replace db files with compat and you should be done. How should it read? The HOWTO mentions this but does not give an example. Could you give me an example. I tried to be clear but... anyway, my /etc/nsswitch.conf looks like this: #---cut here to damage your monitor-- # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat hosts: files dns networks: files dns protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis db files # As for documentation try the command info libc then look at the section * Name Service Switch (You need the debian package libc6-doc for this. Yes, this is not obvious.) Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L Linus Torvalds, W Winfried Truemper | | Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit | * Wworking today and rise on easter? * pgpANOqJqG8Al.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Panic - Re: libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for documentation try the command info libc then look at the section * Name Service Switch Well you could also just read the /usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz file which explains everything in detail. Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | The dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac lay in his bed [EMAIL PROTECTED] | awake all night wondering if there is a doG -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Panic - Re: libc5-libc6 Upgrade - Problem logging in with username in NIS
Nils Rennebarth wrote: I tried to be clear but... anyway, my /etc/nsswitch.conf looks like this: #---cut here to damage your monitor-- # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat hosts: files dns networks: files dns protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis db files # Doh! Rereading what you had written, it makes sense. What does compat give me as opposed to db files nis? I don't know if this is documented in the info files. (You need the debian package libc6-doc for this. Yes, this is not obvious.) Oooow! That hurt. ;-) Thanks again for all the folks who helped. I think hamm is quite stable. If you are contemplating an upgrade but have held back because of stability concerns, I suggest that you read the mini-HOWTO, grab the upgrade script and don't screw up (like I did). S. -- Programming in X Windows is like trying to find the square root of pi using roman numerals Sudhakar C13n (650) 937-2354 (O) International Websites Engineer (650) 940-1896 (H) http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Libc5 / Libc6
BN I want to upgrade one or two of the packages on my system beyond t BN distribution. The newer packages are all requiring libc6, but that c BN (in DSELECT) with libc5 which is a dependence to a _very_ large numb BN programs. =:| BN BN What should I do? Forget it and wait? BN One possibility would be to get the source tar package and make your BN debian package from that. I've tried this a few times without a lot BN success, but will persevere (I've read all the debmake documentation BN still have a few problems). The other would be to compile and instal BN software in a relatively safe directory such as /usr/local. The source is enormous (for a slow FTP link anyway g) and I just haven't the time to fight my way through that. I had enough fun recompiling the kernel, but it's working now. I have had one or two scares moving from libc5 - libc6, but it seems relatively OK now Ian W Karachi, Pakistan email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libc5 - libc6 Upgrade Roadmap?
I read the mini HOWTO and reports in this mailing list about unstable being stable enough. My machine is kind of a production server. The world would not end if it goes down for a day or so. But still it is important to have it up and running ASAP. I am planning on upgrading to hamm later today. I have a few questions before I set off - * I am downloading the entire hamm binary-i386, contrib and non-free tree to a directory (actually, my home directory) on an NFS server. Is there a possibility that NFS might stop working during the upgrade process? * Could some kind soul who has gone through the upgrade process give me a roadmap? The Mini-HOWTO, though useful, does not provide information on how to upgrade the other packages once I have done the basic upgrading. Can I start using dselect after following the instructions in the mini-HOWTO? * I have compiled and installed some packages under /usr/local/ (pgsql, ssh, socks etc.). I guess I have compiled these with libc5. Is there a possibility that they would stop working when I upgrade to libc6? * I am running something 1.3.1.r4 Should I get hold of the libc5 libraries (from gate.net) that don't conflict with libc6 and upgrade after installing these libraries? Your help would be greatly appreciated. S. -- Programming in X Windows is like trying to find the square root of pi using roman numerals Sudhakar C13n (650) 937-2354 (O) International Websites Engineer (650) 940-1896 (H) http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5 - libc6 Upgrade Roadmap?
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: * I am downloading the entire hamm binary-i386, contrib and non-free tree to a directory (actually, my home directory) on an NFS server. Is there a possibility that NFS might stop working during the upgrade process? Why don't you just use dselect's ftp upgrade method? Much simpler than downloading the whole thing. * Could some kind soul who has gone through the upgrade process give me a roadmap? The Mini-HOWTO, though useful, does not provide information on how to upgrade the other packages once I have done the basic upgrading. Can I start using dselect after following the instructions in the mini-HOWTO? 1) Follow the mini-howto. 2) fire up dselect, select ftp as the method, point it at ftp.debian.org, use /debian/hamm/hamm/main/binary-i386 as the directories. 3) select the packages you want to upgrade (select all of them if you really want to upgrade them all :) 4) hit install and let it run. You'll have to repeat 2-4 using /debian/hamm/hamm/contrib/binary-i386 and /debian/hamm/hamm/non-free/binary-i386 to get contrib and non-free. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- | So don't beg, and don't plead ... | | you can't have the heart you make bleed | |-- The Beautiful South, Love is... | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5 - libc6 Upgrade Roadmap?
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: I read the mini HOWTO and reports in this mailing list about unstable being stable enough. My machine is kind of a production server. The world would not end if it goes down for a day or so. But still it is important to have it up and running ASAP. I am planning on upgrading to hamm later today. I have a few questions before I set off - * I am downloading the entire hamm binary-i386, contrib and non-free tree to a directory (actually, my home directory) on an NFS server. Is there a possibility that NFS might stop working during the upgrade process? Remote NFS filesystems won't break, that is built into the kernel. Exported NFS filesystems will be off for the time it takes to update netstd. * Could some kind soul who has gone through the upgrade process give me a roadmap? The Mini-HOWTO, though useful, does not provide information on how to upgrade the other packages once I have done the basic upgrading. Can I start using dselect after following the instructions in the mini-HOWTO? Yes, after upgrading the core packages and bash and perl, everything else can be upgraded by pointing dselect to a hamm mirror and running though the install/configure routine a few times (3-4 probably). Check out http://stormcrow.ml.org/pub/debian/autoup/ which now has a script to upgrade all the core packages in the correct order. * I have compiled and installed some packages under /usr/local/ (pgsql, ssh, socks etc.). I guess I have compiled these with libc5. Is there a possibility that they would stop working when I upgrade to libc6? Libc5 and libc6 coexist fine on a system, the libc5-based librarys are simply moved to an alternate location, similar to the a.out transition. * I am running something 1.3.1.r4 Should I get hold of the libc5 libraries (from gate.net) that don't conflict with libc6 and upgrade after installing these libraries? That's not necessary with the upgrade script I mentioned above. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Libc5 / Libc6
I want to upgrade one or two of the packages on my system beyond the stable distribution. The newer packages are all requiring libc6, but that conflicts (in DSELECT) with libc5 which is a dependence to a _very_ large number of programs. =:| What should I do? Forget it and wait? Ian W -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Libc5 / Libc6
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Ian Gill Watkins wrote: I want to upgrade one or two of the packages on my system beyond the stable distribution. The newer packages are all requiring libc6, but that conflicts (in DSELECT) with libc5 which is a dependence to a _very_ large number of programs. =:| What should I do? Forget it and wait? One possibility would be to get the source tar package and make your own debian package from that. I've tried this a few times without a lot of success, but will persevere (I've read all the debmake documentation, but still have a few problems). The other would be to compile and install the software in a relatively safe directory such as /usr/local. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
kernel-source package that libc6-dev depends on is going to be available this week, or alternatively, can I *safely* force the libc6-dev to install with 2.0.32_2.0.32-1 kernel source? Yeah, sure, just make sure /usr/include/linux is a symlink pointing to /usr/src/linux/include/linux, and that /usr/include/asm is a symlink pointing to /usr/src/linux/include/asm. Just had to do the very same thing... But IMHO its silly keeping seperate headers... Why not just leave the links to /usr/src/linux/include? /usr/src/linux is anyway the standard location for the kernel, and it makes sense to always use your current kernel's headers... But I digress, that seems to be a debian policy that other ppl seem to like... Cheers Neilen -- E-Mail: Neilen Marais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09-Jan-98 Time: 02:13:44 This message was sent by XFMail -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 02:13:41AM +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: But IMHO its silly keeping seperate headers... Why not just leave the links to /usr/src/linux/include? /usr/src/linux is anyway the standard location for the kernel, and it makes sense to always use your current kernel's headers... No it doesn't; read /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
Yes, I did exactly that: put both packages on the same dpkg --install line (thanks to Scott Ellis for responding within an hour of my original post). Everything installed cleanly and the system works as expected. Next hurdle seems to be installing of the libc6-dev to be able to compile my own kernel in the libc6 enviroment. Does anyone know if kernel-source package that libc6-dev depends on is going to be available this week, or alternatively, can I *safely* force the libc6-dev to install with 2.0.32_2.0.32-1 kernel source? Thanks to all who replied to my previous post Damir Wiria A Kusuma wrote: Yes Remco is right, I have not tried it thou.., give it a try... and good luck -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote: Yes, I did exactly that: put both packages on the same dpkg --install line (thanks to Scott Ellis for responding within an hour of my original post). Everything installed cleanly and the system works as expected. Next hurdle seems to be installing of the libc6-dev to be able to compile my own kernel in the libc6 enviroment. Does anyone know if kernel-source package that libc6-dev depends on is going to be available this week, or alternatively, can I *safely* force the libc6-dev to install with 2.0.32_2.0.32-1 kernel source? Well, the kernel itself doesn't actually need libc at all (although the makefiles need it to get ready to compile the kernel). In any case, the missing kernel-headers package is stuck in the incoming directory which is mirrored at ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming (among other places). And forcing the installation with an earlier version of the headers will leave many header files broken when the references they expect don't exist (read /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.debian.gz for the reason). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
go and get the latest 2.0.32-3 from dists/unstable/main/binary/devel and give you a nice install good luck kusuma Damir J. Naden wrote: Yes, I did exactly that: put both packages on the same dpkg --install line (thanks to Scott Ellis for responding within an hour of my original post). Everything installed cleanly and the system works as expected. Next hurdle seems to be installing of the libc6-dev to be able to compile my own kernel in the libc6 enviroment. Does anyone know if kernel-source package that libc6-dev depends on is going to be available this week, or alternatively, can I *safely* force the libc6-dev to install with 2.0.32_2.0.32-1 kernel source? Thanks to all who replied to my previous post Damir Wiria A Kusuma wrote: Yes Remco is right, I have not tried it thou.., give it a try... and good luck -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
ok, I do it this way, after the ldso_1.9.6-2.deb, I do dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, of couse it is complaining about libc6, just ignore it, and leave it unconfigure..., then do a dpkg for libc6_2.0.6-2.deb, I am sure you will be able to do it this time, then you can go back to dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, this time it will install smoothly, then it will ask you to reboot your system if I remember correctly.. good luck kusuma Damir J. Naden wrote: Hi, everyone -- I have spent last hour going thru the mailing list archives and still came out empty-handed: I have installed a base system froma the current base disks from hamm which point to the current bo disks. Those include libc5_5.4.33-6 library. Next step was to try and upgrade to ldso_1.9.6-2.deb. No problem. Trying to upgrade to libc6_2.0.6-2.deb - with no success: it conflicts with any libc5 package less or equal to libc5_5.4.33-7. So, I downloaded libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb from hamm/oldlibs, but dpkg-deb --info cmd tells me that this package depends on libc6_2.0.6. I use dpkg manually, no dselect as I'm more familiar with dpkg...Dpkg is from the current bo disks for i386 dist. So, which is the right order of upgrading? BTW, I downgraded to libc5_5.4.33-3 from Scott Ellis's ftp site in an attempt to make libc6 not conflicting with it - no success. TIA Damir -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
ok, I do it this way, after the ldso_1.9.6-2.deb, I do dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, of couse it is complaining about libc6, just ignore it, and leave it unconfigure..., then do a dpkg for libc6_2.0.6-2.deb, I am sure you will be able to do it this time, then you can go back to dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, this time it will install smoothly, then it will ask you to reboot your system if I remember correctly.. good luck kusuma Damir J. Naden wrote: Hi, everyone -- I have spent last hour going thru the mailing list archives and still came out empty-handed: I have installed a base system froma the current base disks from hamm which point to the current bo disks. Those include libc5_5.4.33-6 library. Next step was to try and upgrade to ldso_1.9.6-2.deb. No problem. Trying to upgrade to libc6_2.0.6-2.deb - with no success: it conflicts with any libc5 package less or equal to libc5_5.4.33-7. So, I downloaded libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb from hamm/oldlibs, but dpkg-deb --info cmd tells me that this package depends on libc6_2.0.6. I use dpkg manually, no dselect as I'm more familiar with dpkg...Dpkg is from the current bo disks for i386 dist. So, which is the right order of upgrading? BTW, I downgraded to libc5_5.4.33-3 from Scott Ellis's ftp site in an attempt to make libc6 not conflicting with it - no success. TIA Damir -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: ok, I do it this way, after the ldso_1.9.6-2.deb, I do dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, of couse it is complaining about libc6, just ignore it, and leave it unconfigure..., then do a dpkg for libc6_2.0.6-2.deb, I am sure you will be able to do it this time, then you can go back to dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, this time it will install smoothly, then it will ask you to reboot your system if I remember correctly.. I think it is better to do libc5 and libc6 on one line, after ldso has been installed: dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb libc6_2.0.6-2.deb This doesn't complain about the dependancy problem, AFAIK. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
Yes Remco is right, I have not tried it thou.., give it a try... and good luck kusuma Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: ok, I do it this way, after the ldso_1.9.6-2.deb, I do dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, of couse it is complaining about libc6, just ignore it, and leave it unconfigure..., then do a dpkg for libc6_2.0.6-2.deb, I am sure you will be able to do it this time, then you can go back to dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb, this time it will install smoothly, then it will ask you to reboot your system if I remember correctly.. I think it is better to do libc5 and libc6 on one line, after ldso has been installed: dpkg -i libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb libc6_2.0.6-2.deb This doesn't complain about the dependancy problem, AFAIK. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
Hi, everyone -- I have spent last hour going thru the mailing list archives and still came out empty-handed: I have installed a base system froma the current base disks from hamm which point to the current bo disks. Those include libc5_5.4.33-6 library. Next step was to try and upgrade to ldso_1.9.6-2.deb. No problem. Trying to upgrade to libc6_2.0.6-2.deb - with no success: it conflicts with any libc5 package less or equal to libc5_5.4.33-7. So, I downloaded libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb from hamm/oldlibs, but dpkg-deb --info cmd tells me that this package depends on libc6_2.0.6. I use dpkg manually, no dselect as I'm more familiar with dpkg...Dpkg is from the current bo disks for i386 dist. So, which is the right order of upgrading? BTW, I downgraded to libc5_5.4.33-3 from Scott Ellis's ftp site in an attempt to make libc6 not conflicting with it - no success. TIA Damir -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote: I have spent last hour going thru the mailing list archives and still came out empty-handed: I have installed a base system froma the current base disks from hamm which point to the current bo disks. Those include libc5_5.4.33-6 library. Next step was to try and upgrade to ldso_1.9.6-2.deb. No problem. Trying to upgrade to libc6_2.0.6-2.deb - with no success: it conflicts with any libc5 package less or equal to libc5_5.4.33-7. So, I downloaded libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb from hamm/oldlibs, but dpkg-deb --info cmd tells me that this package depends on libc6_2.0.6. I use dpkg manually, no dselect as I'm more familiar with dpkg...Dpkg is from the current bo disks for i386 dist. So, which is the right order of upgrading? BTW, I downgraded to libc5_5.4.33-3 from Scott Ellis's ftp site in an attempt to make libc6 not conflicting with it - no success. You'll need to install both libc5 and libc6 from hamm on the same dpkg command line. This will probably also require removing libc5-dev, as well as any packages which depend on it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5/libc6 cohabitat ; locales
Michael Bravo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I have the stable 1.3.1 installed. However, as I look at unstable on the ftp, I see lots of much more up-to-date and needed packages built with libc6. I have browsed through the mailing list archives, and found bits and pieces concerning the upgrade to libc6, but no definitive guide. Could the knowledgeable people answer some of the questions below, w/ private email if possible, as I'm not subscribed to the list and can only look up the webified archives. I will summarize any useful info I get and post to the list. - is it worth it to have both libc5 libc6 at the same time? Yes. - in other words, if I have only libc6, do I get to run libc5-based packages? (I think not) You can have installed both versions simultanously. However, I think you can have only one development version installed, the people who reported problems probably replaced their libc5-dev with libc6-dev and run into problem because some libraries were missing. I have libc6 installed just for the current leafnode version to work. If you get some useful package that are linked against libc6 you should install it, I cannot think of any problem (of you install the shared lib only!). However, you will still have a libc5 based system (because new compiled programs will be linked against libc5) with the ability to execute programs built with libc6. - if there're people who installed libc6 additionally to libc5, starting from plain vanilla 1.3.1, could you please share a step-by-step guide? Just fetch the package (wait a moment ...) libc6_2.0.4-1.deb and install it using dpkg -i libc6_2.0.4-1.deb No more, no less. - in the advice already posted, I noticed the stuff about locales in libc5 postinst. What got me interested is the ru_RU line (my locale). Why is it mapped to ISO8859-5 instead of the proper KOI8-R ? Or it is not mapped? Then what is the do_locale thing doing. And does that mean that my combination of stable libc5 and wg15-locale w/ 'export LANG=ru_RU' doesn't actually work as expected? I can't help you there. I use the de_DE locale and ISO-8859.1 is the correct choice for me. Torsten -- What a depressingly stupid machine The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libc5/libc6 cohabitat ; locales
Hello, I have the stable 1.3.1 installed. However, as I look at unstable on the ftp, I see lots of much more up-to-date and needed packages built with libc6. I have browsed through the mailing list archives, and found bits and pieces concerning the upgrade to libc6, but no definitive guide. Could the knowledgeable people answer some of the questions below, w/ private email if possible, as I'm not subscribed to the list and can only look up the webified archives. I will summarize any useful info I get and post to the list. - is it worth it to have both libc5 libc6 at the same time? - in other words, if I have only libc6, do I get to run libc5-based packages? (I think not) - if there're people who installed libc6 additionally to libc5, starting from plain vanilla 1.3.1, could you please share a step-by-step guide? - in the advice already posted, I noticed the stuff about locales in libc5 postinst. What got me interested is the ru_RU line (my locale). Why is it mapped to ISO8859-5 instead of the proper KOI8-R ? Or it is not mapped? Then what is the do_locale thing doing. And does that mean that my combination of stable libc5 and wg15-locale w/ 'export LANG=ru_RU' doesn't actually work as expected? Thanks in advance for any meaningful help /\/\ike Key fingerprint = 67 C4 EA 8E EB F6 7C 51 2C 8B 78 79 0C 8A DC DC -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libc5 libc6 conflit !!!!!!!!!!!!! #
Ave I did not succeeded upgrading my perl 4.003 that comes with my debian 1.3.0 to a .tgz perl4.004. When I start the set up with Configure -d the set up program stops complaining an error: - cc -O2 -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib -o try try.c -lnsl -lndbm -lgdbm -ldbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lcrypt ./try and I got the following output: ld: error: libc.so.6, needed by /lib/libnsl.so, conflicts with libc.so.5 I can't compile the test program. --- I apreciate any suggestion Samuel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
