Re: installation partition recommendations
On 11/12/2022 22:01, Semih Ozlem wrote: Basically the menu that offers choices for where to boot the machine appears. If Debian or USB drive is chosen the menu comes back with no progress at all. Directory structure for UEFI boot (sdd4 in your case) depends on whether it is internal disk or removable storage: EFI/debian/shimx64.efi and EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi (the same file content). Particular implementation may have bugs. I am unsure which way firmware interprets a USB drive with multiple partitions in your case. If installer created just one directory then I would try to copy it to another name. Do you have an option to choose boot from particular .efi file? If so try bootx64.efi or shimx64.efi directly Within the bios secure boot is disabled. ... or grubx64.efi in this case. Please, show the list of files on sdd4 find EFI | sort If you can boot to some linux on that machine (e.g. a USB drive with live image) then show output of efibootmgr -v
Re: installation partition recommendations
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 03:01:24PM +, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi > > Basically the menu that offers choices for where to boot the machine > appears. If Debian or USB drive is chosen the menu comes back with no > progress at all. > Within the bios secure boot is disabled. > Hi Semih, 1. Check what the options are for booting - UEFI and Legacy/MBR, UEFI only? 2. If your machine has an option to choose an option to boot once - on a lot of machines, that's F12 or similar - what does that do? 3. There is no problem in using secure boot in Debian - in Debian 11, it works. 4. What was your USB drive used for in the past? Is it possible it has bad blocks - Linux can sometimes be more picky than just a FAT32 file system used for storage. All best, as ever, Andy Cater
Re: installation partition recommendations
Hi Basically the menu that offers choices for where to boot the machine appears. If Debian or USB drive is chosen the menu comes back with no progress at all. Within the bios secure boot is disabled. Charles Curley , 11 Ara 2022 Paz, 14:29 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:38:42 + > Semih Ozlem wrote: > > > sdd1 is for swap > > sdd2 is for boot > > sdd4 is for /boot/efi > > > > sdd1 and sdd4 are fat32 > > sdd3 is ext4 > > One problem I see is that sdd1 should be Linux swap, not fat32. But I > doubt that that is your problem. > > -- > Does anybody read signatures any more? > > https://charlescurley.com > https://charlescurley.com/blog/ > >
Re: installation partition recommendations
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:38:42 + Semih Ozlem wrote: > sdd1 is for swap > sdd2 is for boot > sdd4 is for /boot/efi > > sdd1 and sdd4 are fat32 > sdd3 is ext4 One problem I see is that sdd1 should be Linux swap, not fat32. But I doubt that that is your problem. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: installation partition recommendations
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:38:42AM +, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone I am trying to install debian 11 on a 32 gb usb. > I created the following partition table > > sdd 8:48 1 28.7G 0 disk > ├─sdd1 8:49 1 1G 0 part > ├─sdd2 8:50 1 849M 0 part /media/user/NO_LABEL > ├─sdd3 8:51 1 26.3G 0 part > /media/user/2f83ff73-3bde-4021-99db-d6b61863ed8 > └─sdd4 8:52 1 561M 0 part /media/user/NO_LABEL1 > > sdd1 is for swap > sdd2 is for boot > sdd4 is for /boot/efi > > sdd1 and sdd4 are fat32 > sdd3 is ext4 > > the installation finished giving no errors but the system wont boot from > this usb > > What should be changed With a machine with 32G in total: I'd be very tempted to: Use expert mode for the install Take the default for "everything in one partition" as a guideline - that should sort out booting with the EFI partition at the beinning. Resize the LVM partition to allow for your FAT partition at the end which I presume is for data transfer. If this is booting and running entirely from an external USB drive, be aware that it may be very slow - depending on the speed of the USB. The reason for "all in one" partitioning is that I have a similar setup on a physical machine which only has a 32G flash drive internally - unless you have to, don't second-guess the partitioner when faced with that amount of space. All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater
Re: installation partition recommendations
Hi, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone I am trying to install debian 11 on a 32 gb usb. > [...] > the installation finished giving no errors but the system wont boot from > this usb How far does booting get ? - Does EFI offer the USB stick for booting ? - Does GRUB show up but fail to find the installed Debian system ? Does the Debian installation ISO boot from USB stick via the involved USB socket? Have a nice day :) Thomas
installation partition recommendations
Hi everyone I am trying to install debian 11 on a 32 gb usb. I created the following partition table sdd 8:48 1 28.7G 0 disk ├─sdd1 8:49 1 1G 0 part ├─sdd2 8:50 1 849M 0 part /media/user/NO_LABEL ├─sdd3 8:51 1 26.3G 0 part /media/user/2f83ff73-3bde-4021-99db-d6b61863ed8 └─sdd4 8:52 1 561M 0 part /media/user/NO_LABEL1 sdd1 is for swap sdd2 is for boot sdd4 is for /boot/efi sdd1 and sdd4 are fat32 sdd3 is ext4 the installation finished giving no errors but the system wont boot from this usb What should be changed
Partition recommendations for dual boot installation???
I am planning to install Debian potatoe release on my Dell 4100 pentium III with 60 GB HD. I have read through several different versions of installation instruction posted at various places on the web and few things remain unclear to me. Should I partition my disk immediately prior to installation (using DOS fdisk for instance) or will installation program partition HD for me? How to partition exactly? I have a 6o GB HD (master) and a 6 GB HD (slave) and want to install Debian and Windows ME with either LILO or GRUB as boot loader. I have seen suggested to make different partitions for /mbr, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /home, and /tmp. Plus I will need at least one or two for Windows. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Partition recommendations for dual boot installation???
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 11:06:09AM -0700, Abner Gershon wrote: I am planning to install Debian potatoe release on my Dell 4100 pentium III with 60 GB HD. I have read through several different versions of installation instruction posted at various places on the web and few things remain unclear to me. Should I partition my disk immediately prior to installation (using DOS fdisk for instance) or will installation program partition HD for me? How to partition exactly? I have a 6o GB HD (master) and a 6 GB HD (slave) and want to install Debian and Windows ME with either LILO or GRUB as boot loader. I have seen suggested to make different partitions for /mbr, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /home, and /tmp. Plus I will need at least one or two for Windows. If your installing Windows and Debian on the same disk. Install Windows first. Create the partition for Windows and the partition you will use later for Debian. BTW, if you can, stay away from W.ME it is a piece of royal crap. When you go to install Debian the installation routine will give you the chance to partition the drive. This doesn't sound like this is going to be a server or firewall so I wouldn't worry too much about your partitioning scheme at first. Create / and a swap partition. Later you will have more understanding of partitions and the sizes you want. Also sounds like you need to read the installation instructions at - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: Partition recommendations for dual boot installation???
How to partition exactly? I have a 6o GB HD (master) and a 6 GB HD (slave) and want to install Debian and Windows ME with either LILO or GRUB as boot loader. I have seen suggested to make different partitions for /mbr, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /home, and /tmp. Plus I will need at least one or two for Windows. Take advice of this guy who is writting you right now and who in fact havent partitioned properly: bash-2.03$ df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 705352 38264631256 6% / /dev/hda5 2015464 1506096406984 79% /usr /dev/hda6 1007936386444570288 40% /var /dev/hda2 4053487 1914207 1929566 50% /home As you see I left too much space for / which now is a waste (well I could symlink but thats dirty and you dont want that).. that space would have been much better in /usr /var hasnt been too a very good choice.. in fact very bad, for a nntp server or mail server it would be a good choice but for a workstation is not.. So see that maybe you want to put as much room as possible into /usr bash-2.03$ du -s /usr 1506096 /usr bash-2.03$ du -s /usr/local 118096 /usr/local bash-2.03$ du -s /usr/share 505684 /usr/share bash-2.03$ du -s /usr/src 280356 /usr/src bash-2.03$ du -s /usr/lib/ 305924 /usr/lib So... the best.. well now I will do the following: let far less room for / let far more room for /usr and /usr/local less room for /var And as ever the more room for /home the best.. Take your own conclusions.. since I am not goint to reinstall my whole system.. I will survive untill I will get a brand new 40-80 Gbytes HD. Hope this help ;) Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.dhis.org Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
Re: Partition recommendations for dual boot installation???
On 08 Apr 2001 21:40:08 +0200, Roberto Diaz wrote: less room for /var Don't make it too small, apt-get stuffs the debs there when you switch from, e.g., potato to woody, can be several 100 MBs. So yes, for a workstation it's probably best to have /var /tmp and /usr on one huge partition Regards, M. -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: Partition recommendations for dual boot installation???
less room for /var Don't make it too small, apt-get stuffs the debs there when you switch from, e.g., potato to woody, can be several 100 MBs. So yes, for a workstation it's probably best to have /var /tmp and /usr on one huge partition Yes its true you need a cache there.. but as you can see in my working system: /dev/hda6 1007936386496570236 40% /var I am only using 40% and as you can see: bash-2.03$ du -s /var/cache/apt/archives/ 189756 /var/cache/apt/archives It is not too much.. I run every week apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade.. and I doubt I will run into troubles. So maybe I would run into troubles if I wanted to go unstable and I had to download hundreds of new packages... meantime those free 500 MGbytes are very stable and maybe it is too much.. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.dhis.org Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
Re: Partition recommendations for dual boot installation???
on Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 11:06:09AM -0700, Abner Gershon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am planning to install Debian potatoe release on my Dell 4100 pentium III with 60 GB HD. I have read through several different versions of installation instruction posted at various places on the web and few things remain unclear to me. Should I partition my disk immediately prior to installation (using DOS fdisk for instance) or will installation program partition HD for me? I prefer partitioning as a separate step prior to installation. My understanding is also that you typically want to install Legacy MS Windows prior to GNU/Linux. How to partition exactly? I have a 6o GB HD (master) and a 6 GB HD (slave) and want to install Debian and Windows ME with either LILO or GRUB as boot loader. I have seen suggested to make different partitions for /mbr, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /home, and /tmp. Plus I will need at least one or two for Windows. Debian partition suggestions: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html You'll need to modify this scheme specifically to address your boot requirements. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpgcqo2vBsq6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: partition recommendations
With a 2.4 GB IDE and 2x2.1 GB SCSI: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 152247 54883 89502 38% / /dev/sdb5 101089 16302 79568 17% /tmp /dev/sdb6 303344193071 94612 67% /var /dev/sda5 1209572948492199636 83% /usr /dev/sdb7 1517920 1218352222460 85% /usr/local /dev/hda6 249871127331109640 54% /usr/src /dev/sda7 585008194212361080 35% /home /dev/hda1 157044119212 37832 76% /mnt/dos /dev/hda5 495960 74844395516 16% /var/spool/news /dev/hda8 253775128974111699 54% /usr/doc /dev/hda2 1007992597564359224 62% /mnt/misc1 ...note particularly /, /usr, and /usr/local. I had to split out several /usr subdirectories because 1.2 GB wasn't sufficient, ditto /var after adding a locally-hosted leafnode usenet server. I generally prefer isolating /tmp, /var, /usr, /usr/local, and /home, and would tend to give the bulk of space to /home. If I could get away with fewer partitions, I would, but given my physical disks, this is pretty much how it crumbles. The system's got a lot of stuff on it -- I like to try things out g. You'll also want probably 2x physical memory as swap. Guessing you've got an IDE drive, you'll get slow performance from this. On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:22:37PM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote: With an eye toward upgrading to Potato, and hearing all the horor stories about slink-potato upgrade failures I decided to do a fresh install from scratch. So I obtained a brand new 27GB drive from www.compgeeks.com (check them out, great bargins!). I will have a small (say 100 mb) /boot partition at the front of the disk (to avoid cyl 1024 problems with lilo), and a 128mb swap partition. Other than that any good ideas on how to partition the disk? In the past I have just made the rest of the drive one hugh partition for \ to avoid figuring out how much to allocate for everything. However with 27GB of space I guess I can make a few errors without much horror. I intend for this machine to be a workstation (machine is a PIII-500 with 128mb dram), and will be developing software/packages with an eye toward becoming a debian developer (whenever new ones are being accepted again). BTW I still have slink on the other disk (13gb / partition). = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Scope out Scoop: http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/ Nothin' rusty about Kuro5hin: http://www.kuro5hin.org/
Re: partition recommendations
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:22:37PM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote: With an eye toward upgrading to Potato, and hearing all the horor stories about slink-potato upgrade failures I decided to do a fresh install from scratch. So I obtained a brand new 27GB drive from www.compgeeks.com (check them out, great bargins!). I will have a small (say 100 mb) /boot partition at more like 5 or 10MB for /boot, but i much prefer to simply have a small / partition instead of making a separate /boot. the front of the disk (to avoid cyl 1024 problems with lilo), and a 128mb swap partition. Other than that any good ideas on how to partition the disk? In the past I have just made the rest of the drive one hugh partition for \ to avoid figuring out how much to allocate for everything. However with 27GB of space I guess I can make a few errors without much horror. oh my lord no, that may be easier but i think you will hate yourself later for doing that, for one thing it will take FOREVER to fsck, and if it ever encounters a unnice kernel (ahem 2.2.13) your entire system is hosed, gone, along with all your data. yes I am a partition freak, i have lots of partitions, but my recent encounter with kernel 2.2.13 made me very grateful that i made so many partitions, it saved me from losing all user data and only had to reinstall the OS, which is relativly less effort then recovering user data. I reccommend: 64MB - 70MB / this easily fits below 1024 cylinders so you don't need a clumsy /boot partition. huge (i have 4GB) /usr large /usr/local if you plan to compile stuff yourself, this way if for some reason you want to rebuild your system from scratch (say do to something nasty like kernel 2.2.13) you don't lose your self compiled stuff/source etc. 800MB - 1GB+ /var, why so big? /var/cache/apt nuff said. (symlinking stuff around is very ugly to me, and its not like you don't have the space :P) for improved security i always create a 30 - 60 MB /tmp and a 200-300MB /var/tmp, this is just my weird preference, its probably just as good to create a 100 or so MB /tmp and symlink /var/tmp to it. this disallows any user writablility to the / filesystem, which cuts off all kinds of DoS and other security attacks. now pretty much all that is left is /home, after you pick your sizes for the above, use the rest for a nice huge /home now with the above setup /usr and /usr/local may be mounted readonly full time, just teach apt how to make /usr writable during upgrades/installs this also helps protect agianst some security issues but is really more protective against things like kernel 2.2.13 ;-) I intend for this machine to be a workstation (machine is a PIII-500 with 128mb dram), and will be developing software/packages with an eye toward becoming a debian developer (whenever new ones are being accepted again). BTW I still have slink on the other disk (13gb / partition). the above partitioning scheme should work well for developing. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
partition recommendations
With an eye toward upgrading to Potato, and hearing all the horor stories about slink-potato upgrade failures I decided to do a fresh install from scratch. So I obtained a brand new 27GB drive from www.compgeeks.com (check them out, great bargins!). I will have a small (say 100 mb) /boot partition at the front of the disk (to avoid cyl 1024 problems with lilo), and a 128mb swap partition. Other than that any good ideas on how to partition the disk? In the past I have just made the rest of the drive one hugh partition for \ to avoid figuring out how much to allocate for everything. However with 27GB of space I guess I can make a few errors without much horror. I intend for this machine to be a workstation (machine is a PIII-500 with 128mb dram), and will be developing software/packages with an eye toward becoming a debian developer (whenever new ones are being accepted again). BTW I still have slink on the other disk (13gb / partition). = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com