please read i am not getting satisfaction from mytablet l got it in april i dont download anything on it and it is slow take long to load so what should i do please tell me thank you.
Re: please read i am not getting satisfaction from mytablet l got it in april i dont download anything on it and it is slow take long to load so what should i do please tell me thank you.
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:42:23PM -0400, phillip johnson wrote: Contact the manufacturer. I wasn't aware they made tablets with debian. Also, please don't put your entire message in the subject field. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn..net gpg public key: http://www.gregn..net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130905002033.ga19...@gregn.net
Re: please read i am not getting satisfaction from mytablet l got it in april i dont download anything on it and it is slow take long to load so what should i do please tell me thank you.
phillip johnson jamaicabarne...@gmail.com writes: silence When your subject line is three lines long (on my display, anyway) maybe you should move it to the body of your post. When the body of your post is empty, you should *definitely* move something in there. Does your table run Debian Linux? If not, why are you asking here? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1bk3iw7ytq@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On Wed, April 9, 2008 2:23 pm, Chris Bannister wrote: Yeah, but it makes it more difficult for new Debian users to get answers to their problems if you *also* have reply to list as Policy. In fact, the more I think about it, the more illogical it seems. Which is moot since D-U does not nor will ever have reply-to list. 2822 killed that debate. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:05:56AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:57:30AM -0400, steve wrote: can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. Debian-user is an open list which can be posted to by anyone, whether a list member or not. The spammer(s) in question is most likely not subscribed to the list and, therefore, cannot be removed from it. Even if he is a subscriber and was removed, he'd still be able to post messages to the list. D-u gets occasional waves of heavy spamming as some new technique is developed by the spammers which allows their crap to elude the list's spam filters, but it's generally a short-term issue and solved within a day or two by an update to the list's filter rules. (And, in an attempt to head off the inevitable close the list and only allow subscribers to post suggestions, this is something which Debian policy does not allow for, as it would make it more difficult for new Debian users to get help with their problems. Aside from the barrier to Yeah, but it makes it more difficult for new Debian users to get answers to their problems if you *also* have reply to list as Policy. In fact, the more I think about it, the more illogical it seems. -- Chris. == If you are not subscribed, ask to be CC'd as the Policy of this list is to reply to the list only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian McKee wrote on 2008-04-07 22:07: On 7-Apr-08, at 3:05 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I believe the technique you're looking for is greylisting. I know the concept of greylisting. Are you sure, that we do want greylinsting on debian? Do we want that poor lads on dial-up have to dial-up several times in order to send a simple, short text message? Wouldn't anyone on dialup be using a smarthost ? e.g. their ISP to send mail? Not necessarily. Take something like 'reportbug installation-reports'. [This is not a user mailing list, but a mailing list from debian, nevertheless.] A little google [1] on the list archives reveals that apparently greylisting is implemented on lists.debian.org. The fact that we still get spam just demonstrates, that greylisting (or any other measure) is not perfect at fighting spam. Johannes [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/10/msg4.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+60UC1NzPRl9qEURAgYBAJ9UTz4SLWtMF8R+Bk6OJS56BvgKjACdEF3T RooWtLGnBboR+pD8x2AZMzk= =HGkW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas A. Tutty wrote on 2008-04-07 02:40: Of course, Quoting the spam when you complain about spam just confuses the spam filter so that it will think such mail is legitimate. I understand the issue about not wanting to limit posters to the list of subscribers. However, perhaps there should be a whitelist or somthing to which non-subscribers can post with the same handshaking as the subscription protocol? There is: http://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ Do legitmate people actually post if they don't have an email address? I can easily imagine a scenario, where I am somewhere on a half-configured box or in an internet cafe etc. where I don't have access to my regular mail, but where I would like to ask a question and read the answer on the web pages. Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+hQxC1NzPRl9qEURAtlWAJ0SDhONNvbjaynayMHKj1/PybRMTQCeKD/v d9R6a3lKDCSC1itDakZ9QsA= =AF1U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote on 2008-04-07 14:31: I understand the issue about not wanting to limit posters to the list of subscribers. However, perhaps there should be a whitelist or somthing to which non-subscribers can post with the same handshaking as the subscription protocol? There is: http://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ Sorry, I misunderstood you, Doug. IIUC, you propose that there is a special way for non-subscribers to post, that locks out spammers at the same time? How should that work? The only thing I could imagine, is one of those silly 'type the letters that you find in this image' stuff. That simply drives spammers to OCR or other tricks and locks out others (blind, color blind etc.), and adds an additional layer of annoyance to the rest of us. [I get angry against spammers, but I would rather rely on my spam filter and ignore the odd spam that gets through than to make it more difficult for people to post. ] Just MHO. Cheers, Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+hcMC1NzPRl9qEURAoBmAJ4sWBarDo5LYkcitJJpyKf/PdcElgCfZ81t HsCTfAIIOz79AiQn9WC5lP4= =9KvU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:43:56PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: IIUC, you propose that there is a special way for non-subscribers to post, that locks out spammers at the same time? How should that work? The only thing I could imagine, is one of those silly 'type the letters that you find in this image' stuff. I believe the technique you're looking for is greylisting. Basically, the way it works is that, on receiving mail from an unrecognized address, the server lies and says I'm too busy to accept that right now. Can you try again in a few minutes? All full-featured mail software will recognize this, requeue the message, and try again to deliver the message after (usually) 5 to 15 minutes, at which point the mail will be accepted. The vast majority of spam mailers are half-assed pieces of crap thrown together as quick-and-dirty as possible, so they pay no attention to the server's response (if they even hang around to receive it at all) and never come back to try again. No user interaction is required in this process and its only user-perceivable cost is a small delay in receipt of the first message from any given sender address to the greylisting server. Greylisting isn't 100% effective, as it doesn't work on spam that comes through an open relay (or a mailing list...) and some spam mailers actually implement SMTP properly, but it still works very well. When I enabled it on my mail server earlier this year, the volume of spam received immediately dropped by 70-80%. -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Sherohman wrote on 2008-04-07 17:44: On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:43:56PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: IIUC, you propose that there is a special way for non-subscribers to post, that locks out spammers at the same time? How should that work? The only thing I could imagine, is one of those silly 'type the letters that you find in this image' stuff. I believe the technique you're looking for is greylisting. I know the concept of greylisting. Are you sure, that we do want greylinsting on debian? Do we want that poor lads on dial-up have to dial-up several times in order to send a simple, short text message? [...] No user interaction is required in this process and its only user-perceivable cost is a small delay in receipt of the first message from any given sender address to the greylisting server. It depends. In unlucky situations without permanent internet connection, the cost could be higher. The more users use greylisting, the more spammers will find ways around it (like sending all messages twice, after a delay of several minute). Greylisting isn't 100% effective, as it doesn't work on spam that comes through an open relay (or a mailing list...) and some spam mailers actually implement SMTP properly, but it still works very well. When I enabled it on my mail server earlier this year, the volume of spam received immediately dropped by 70-80%. It did reduce the amount of spam, when I had it installed, but most of the spam I get, is filtered automatically by other means or is from lists, so the cost of delay time was more precious to me and I removed it again. YMMV, Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+nCQC1NzPRl9qEURAh92AJ9qNm8B1kkSMXaoMJ/+/abTnLalRQCfcJEM 5VQ4zc+PXFS8ZExc7W9aDME= =tORT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On 7-Apr-08, at 3:05 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I believe the technique you're looking for is greylisting. I know the concept of greylisting. Are you sure, that we do want greylinsting on debian? Do we want that poor lads on dial-up have to dial-up several times in order to send a simple, short text message? Wouldn't anyone on dialup be using a smarthost ? e.g. their ISP to send mail? And isn't it only for the first time that server is used that it bounces it? Brian PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 16:07:55 -0400, Brian McKee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 7-Apr-08, at 3:05 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I believe the technique you're looking for is greylisting. I know the concept of greylisting. Are you sure, that we do want greylinsting on debian? Do we want that poor lads on dial-up have to dial-up several times in order to send a simple, short text message? Wouldn't anyone on dialup be using a smarthost ? e.g. their ISP to send mail? And isn't it only for the first time that server is used that it bounces it? Yes. My first message to this list a few weeks ago was definitely greylisted, but subsequent messages have gone though without delay. I send direct-to-MX without using an ISP smarthost, but of course agree that this would not be practical on a dialup connection. -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mohammed Ali wrote: | | You're invited to:IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE | READ AND REPLY!! | By your host: Mohammed Ali | | Date: Sunday April 6, 2008 | Time: 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm (GMT +00:00) | | Will you attend? *RSVP to this invitation | http://calendar.yahoo.com/mohammed.ali9?v=126a1=0iid=MxA5osx%40%40g%40UaMH3ahh6t%403%40cUes%40J1W1%40b8%40h%40%40igid=ehal7epb%40upG%40Nw3BxpPQsd%40HBa%40aMnGHpb35F7bv9v%40* | | Copyright © 2008 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com All Rights Reserved | | Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ | Privacy Policy | http://privacy.yahoo.com/ | can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. ~ Thank you. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+PLp1L48K811Km0RArvPAKDiAobASLZ/xjy7101Zv9IpIaG94QCgsmhC iQDPEtIAW9gPIc3sKOdTtnY= =J+EH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:57:30AM -0400, steve wrote: can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. Debian-user is an open list which can be posted to by anyone, whether a list member or not. The spammer(s) in question is most likely not subscribed to the list and, therefore, cannot be removed from it. Even if he is a subscriber and was removed, he'd still be able to post messages to the list. D-u gets occasional waves of heavy spamming as some new technique is developed by the spammers which allows their crap to elude the list's spam filters, but it's generally a short-term issue and solved within a day or two by an update to the list's filter rules. (And, in an attempt to head off the inevitable close the list and only allow subscribers to post suggestions, this is something which Debian policy does not allow for, as it would make it more difficult for new Debian users to get help with their problems. Aside from the barrier to access presented by a subscription requirement, it would also mean that they would be required to submit themselves to the list's message volume, which is larger than many people like to receive. Although YMMV, I believe that this is the correct policy, both for Debian and for help/support lists in general. There are other ways to address spam beyond simply blindly blocking all non-subscriber messages.) -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sunday 06 April 2008 17:57:30 steve wrote: Mohammed Ali wrote: | You're invited to: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE | READ AND REPLY!! | By your host: Mohammed Ali | | Date: Sunday April 6, 2008 | Time: 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm (GMT +00:00) | | Will you attend?*RSVP to this invitation http://calendar.yahoo.com/mohammed.ali9?v=126a1=0iid=MxA5osx%40%40g%40Ua MH3ahh6t%403%40cUes%40J1W1%40b8%40h%40%40igid=ehal7epb%40upG%40Nw3BxpPQsd%4 0HBa%40aMnGHpb35F7bv9v%40* | Copyright © 2008 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com All Rights Reserved | | | Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ | Privacy Policy | | http://privacy.yahoo.com/ can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. ~ Thank you. -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com well to the list on the net and mark it as a spam. There is no moderator on this list. Thierry
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Sherohman wrote: | On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:57:30AM -0400, steve wrote: | can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been | getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. | | Debian-user is an open list which can be posted to by anyone, whether a I had no idea it was open, I thought I remembered years ago subscribing when I setup my server... that seems a bit silly to let anyone send a mail to a mailing list doesnt it? But... to each his own, Ill just add his address to a filter, his address changes constantly, I have 10 emails from him in my inbox just from the last 24 hours, each from a different address, but the same mail;. pain in the $#% he is. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+Pce1L48K811Km0RAjy8AKDghCEXwkdsHXIGJLVM1+Rb9UFp0QCdHVyt ftzPMchcnGe+go60WhictOQ= =v6k4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:05:56AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:57:30AM -0400, steve wrote: can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. [snip] (And, in an attempt to head off the inevitable close the list and only allow subscribers to post suggestions, this is something which Debian policy does not allow for, as it would make it more difficult for new Debian users to get help with their problems. Aside from the barrier to access presented by a subscription requirement, it would also mean that they would be required to submit themselves to the list's message volume, which is larger than many people like to receive. Although YMMV, I believe that this is the correct policy, both for Debian and for help/support lists in general. There are other ways to address spam beyond simply blindly blocking all non-subscriber messages.) Is there a way to provide feed back to the list server, so the users can report spam - although this would then open to abuse. I suppose some weighting could be done -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely 1 bananosecond. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On Monday 07 April 2008 00:04:34 Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:05:56AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:57:30AM -0400, steve wrote: can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. [snip] Is there a way to provide feed back to the list server, so the users can report spam - although this would then open to abuse. I suppose some weighting could be done -- Go there: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ find the message and click on the button Report as spam on the top right of the page. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 12:10:38AM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Monday 07 April 2008 00:04:34 Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:05:56AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:57:30AM -0400, steve wrote: can the moderator please remove this idiot from the list?? Ive been getting this junk no less than ten times a day for lord knows how long. [snip] Is there a way to provide feed back to the list server, so the users can report spam - although this would then open to abuse. I suppose some weighting could be done -- Go there: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ find the message and click on the button Report as spam on the top right of the page. is there any way to do this with mail, maybe if it was a header I could then wget the report as spam link. Don't really want to open a browser to do this Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Stop searching forever. Happiness is just next to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Thierry Chatelet wrote: well to the list on the net and mark it as a spam. There is no moderator on this list. You are incorrect. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry Chatelet wrote: | | Go there: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ find the message and click on | the button Report as spam on the top right of the page. | Thierry | | Done! I dont read the list mail there, so I never knew about it, thanks. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+W5n1L48K811Km0RAoFoAJ4jXjIKekrZPgUNKupHNHPk1im50QCgs3Bb WdtR0CzcpCs7dVC29GoLLQk= =mp7j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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steve wrote: Ill just add his address to a filter, his address changes constantly, I have 10 emails from him in my inbox just from the last 24 hours, each from a different address, but the same mail;. pain in the $#% he is. This is not the correct method. Most of the times (99/100) the From header in a spam email is munged. That means, the correct owner of the email address is not the same person who sent you the spam email. FWIW, you might even get spam emails with a from address of your own. This is basically called Joe jobbing (see google for more information). hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of course, Quoting the spam when you complain about spam just confuses the spam filter so that it will think such mail is legitimate. I understand the issue about not wanting to limit posters to the list of subscribers. However, perhaps there should be a whitelist or somthing to which non-subscribers can post with the same handshaking as the subscription protocol? Do legitmate people actually post if they don't have an email address? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:16:02AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: is there any way to do this with mail, maybe if it was a header I could then wget the report as spam link. Don't really want to open a browser to do this [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2/24/06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Interestingly, there is no two-line instruction on your mail. I've noticed the same for some other people, too, but haven't chased it down. Hint: it is there, your client isn't showing it, and it is related to gpg support. Mutt doesn't show it (by default? I don't know if this can be changed). There are some mails in this thread for me where I don't have the UNSUBSCRIBE directions at the bottom. I tried using gmail's show original feature and it didn't show the 2 lines. Also, one of the mails wasn't gpg signed (the one by Scott). So perhaps it's a list software problem, instead of being related to gpg settings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] On this one it obviously did show up, so gmail isn't swallowing them all. greets, Wim
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:45:12 +0100 Wim De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/24/06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Interestingly, there is no two-line instruction on your mail. I've noticed the same for some other people, too, but haven't chased it down. Hint: it is there, your client isn't showing it, and it is related to gpg support. Mutt doesn't show it (by default? I don't know if this can be changed). There are some mails in this thread for me where I don't have the UNSUBSCRIBE directions at the bottom. I tried using gmail's show original feature and it didn't show the 2 lines. Also, one of the mails wasn't gpg signed (the one by Scott). So perhaps it's a list software problem, instead of being related to gpg settings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] On this one it obviously did show up, so gmail isn't swallowing them all. greets, Wim But on your mail it doesn't. How do you post? Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:47:50PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:38:00AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: } Hi spam-killers, } Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. } It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Sure, no problem. Now, given that I archive my spam (yes, spamassassin is trained on everything that has come in, but what if I want to change to some other system that needs training later? disk space is cheap...), should I go through it and find all the spam that passed through debian-user and bounce it? I can. It's easy. I just have to do it a little carefully so that my ISP doesn't think *I'm* sending spam. } Cheers, } Kev --Greg Hi Greg, et al. I and others inquired about getting spam reporting on the -devel list. 'Cord' made the setup and IIRC is in change of this. So, i'd ask him! Hopefully, this will help reduce debian-mailing-list spam! I just wanted to get the word out, as I and most others enjoy killing spam and wanted to waste no time in doing so! Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MUTT users PLEASE read [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)]
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 09:01:52PM -0700, Scott wrote: Alex Nordstrom spake thusly on 02/24/2006 10:06 AM: Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:38, Kevin Mark wrote: Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Presumably, KMail users should also be able to participate. And Thunderbird and Sylpheed... What's with this Mutt Users [only] stuff? Hi Scott, I use mutt and the poster (Cord) only mentioned that he knew of using mutt and He (and I also) didn't know of the other ways to do this. So, I know many folks here use Mutt as I do. So, I thought it 'safe' to only direct mutt users, as I didn't know if others could use a similar method. I should have made it 'all users' as folks here know stuff I dont. It was a moment where I did not think clearly and shot off the mail with out engaging 'brain'. Mea Culpa. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MUTT users PLEASE read [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)]
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:08:17 -0600 Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:38:00 -0500 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi spam-killers, Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Cheers, Kev Sylpheed users are also on the list of people with a client that can do this. Jacob Do you mean Message-Redirect ? Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:40:04 +0200 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:08:17 -0600 Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:38:00 -0500 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi spam-killers, Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Cheers, Kev Sylpheed users are also on the list of people with a client that can do this. Jacob Do you mean Message-Redirect ? Yes. Works for me. Jacob -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEAI2bkpJ43hY3cTURAm7fAKDnuFzKoZChu/BV4JJFa5Kps0KM2gCfUv4l xJzAqXD/rJ89tcOYSUhbq8M= =rwSK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Alex Nordstrom spake thusly on 02/24/2006 10:06 AM: Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:38, Kevin Mark wrote: Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Presumably, KMail users should also be able to participate. And Thunderbird and Sylpheed... What's with this Mutt Users [only] stuff? -- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved
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John Halton spake thusly on 02/24/2006 09:51 AM: On 2/24/06, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1] Bounce as in mutt b. I don't know if and how this can be done in thunderbird Apparently the following extension allows bouncing using Thunderbird - http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/ Haven't looked into it any further though so don't know if it will work in all circumstances or for this particular purpose. I've been using that extension for quite a while. I don't see why it wouldn't work in this instance. -- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved
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Hi spam-killers, Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Cheers, Kev - Forwarded message from Cord Beermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:03:31 -0600 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Hallo! Du (Cord Beermann) hast geschrieben: The idea of having a reporting address is good, i'll will announce one in the next days and then lets see what happens. ok, here it is: (alpha release, lets see what happens and if it is useful.) If you get spam via our lists, BOUNCE[1] it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Incomplete mails[2] will be discarded, * mis-use (report of non-spam, mass-reporting of one spam, automatic forwarding based on some automatism (scores of Anti-Spamtools or something)) will be blacklisted. The reported mails will be used to enhance our Spamassassin and procmail-filters. The mails will be stored non-public. [1] Bounce as in mutt b. I don't know if and how this can be done in thunderbird, or M$ LookOut. If it possible someone may explain it in a follow up. Forwarding is NOT ok at this time, those mails will be discarded. [2] I want complete mails. this means: ALL Headers and the body. If your system adds its own headers, or overwrites our Spamassassin-Headers it's ok, Cord -- http://lists.debian.org - End forwarded message - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On 2/24/06, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1] Bounce as in mutt b. I don't know if and how this can be done in thunderbird Apparently the following extension allows bouncing using Thunderbird - http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/ Haven't looked into it any further though so don't know if it will work in all circumstances or for this particular purpose.
Re: MUTT users PLEASE read [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)]
Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:38, Kevin Mark wrote: Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Presumably, KMail users should also be able to participate. - Forwarded message from Cord Beermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If you get spam via our lists, BOUNCE[1] it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way to seemingly achieve the same effect in KMail 1.9.1 is to use Message-Forward-Redirect (shortcut: E). I believe older versions had the same feature under Message-Bounce (which seems to be supported by an obviously outdated section of the manual). I'm sure someone will point out if this feature does not meet the requirements of this application. Now, as a question of policy, are the half-dozen daily unsubscribe messages from those too illiterate to comprehend a two-line instruction added in caps to every message on the list considered spam? They're certainly unsolicited (nobody wants 'em) bulk (they're bothering everyone on the list) e-mail. What about challenge-response junk, false bounces from misconfigured spamfilters, and out-of-the-office replies? -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgphv9ULboaQ2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MUTT users PLEASE read [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)]
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Alex Nordstrom wrote: Now, as a question of policy, are the half-dozen daily unsubscribe messages from those too illiterate to comprehend a two-line instruction added in caps to every message on the list considered spam? They're certainly unsolicited (nobody wants 'em) bulk (they're bothering everyone on the list) e-mail. What about challenge-response junk, false bounces from misconfigured spamfilters, and out-of-the-office replies? All of those are SPAM, if you go by the It is utterly useless crap *AND* it is off-topic *AND* it was generated by layer 8 malfunction or by viruses or by autoresponders *AND* it did not spawn a thread. After all, if people started replying to a SPAM and it made a thread out of it, no matter how off-topic for the list that thread is, the entire thing (spam included) it is probably best left alone in the archives. PS: layer 8: refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model, Humor. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:38:00AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: } Hi spam-killers, } Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. } It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Sure, no problem. Now, given that I archive my spam (yes, spamassassin is trained on everything that has come in, but what if I want to change to some other system that needs training later? disk space is cheap...), should I go through it and find all the spam that passed through debian-user and bounce it? I can. It's easy. I just have to do it a little carefully so that my ISP doesn't think *I'm* sending spam. } Cheers, } Kev --Greg } - Forwarded message from Cord Beermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - } Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:03:31 -0600 } To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org } } Hallo! Du (Cord Beermann) hast geschrieben: } } The idea of having a reporting address is good, i'll will announce one } in the next days and then lets see what happens. } } ok, here it is: (alpha release, lets see what happens and if it is } useful.) } } If you get spam via our lists, BOUNCE[1] it to } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } * Incomplete mails[2] will be discarded, } * mis-use (report of non-spam, mass-reporting of one spam, automatic }forwarding based on some automatism (scores of Anti-Spamtools or }something)) will be blacklisted. } } The reported mails will be used to enhance our Spamassassin and } procmail-filters. The mails will be stored non-public. } } [1] Bounce as in mutt b. I don't know if and how this can be done in } thunderbird, or M$ LookOut. If it possible someone may explain } it in a follow up. Forwarding is NOT ok at this time, those } mails will be discarded. } } [2] I want complete mails. this means: ALL Headers and the body. If } your system adds its own headers, or overwrites our } Spamassassin-Headers it's ok, } } Cord } -- } http://lists.debian.org } - End forwarded message - } -- } | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | } | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | } | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | } | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | } | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:38:00 -0500 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi spam-killers, Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Cheers, Kev Sylpheed users are also on the list of people with a client that can do this. Jacob -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD/3XEkpJ43hY3cTURAg84AJ4u/U9qnwcm00U7TTSlNxdMPfBo2QCgszrI GMfOVZothc91/30bM6O3K4g= =P4XW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:06:27 +0800 Alex Nordstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, as a question of policy, are the half-dozen daily unsubscribe messages from those too illiterate to comprehend a two-line instruction added in caps to every message on the list considered spam? They're certainly unsolicited (nobody wants 'em) bulk (they're bothering everyone on the list) e-mail. What about challenge-response junk, false bounces from misconfigured spamfilters, and out-of-the-office replies? (copying the .sig and everything below it back in) -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. [application/pgp-signature (189 bytes)] Interestingly, there is no two-line instruction on your mail. I've noticed the same for some other people, too, but haven't chased it down. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Interestingly, there is no two-line instruction on your mail. I've noticed the same for some other people, too, but haven't chased it down. Hint: it is there, your client isn't showing it, and it is related to gpg support. Mutt doesn't show it (by default? I don't know if this can be changed). -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
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--- trevor brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks Hi Trevor. (I mean 'dollar.') You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft. Yes! You are helping open-source software, which Microsoft and its dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of computer users everywhere. I hope you get an A. - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: please read this
-Original Message- From: Thomas Pomber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 11:03 AM To: trevor brooks; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: please read this --- trevor brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks Hi Trevor. (I mean 'dollar.') You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft. Yes! You are helping open-source software, which Microsoft and its dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of computer users everywhere. I hope you get an A. /s/Microsoft/America /s/open-source software/freedom fighter /s/Bill gates/George Bush /s/computer users/true believers You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil America. Yes! You are helping freedom fighters, which America and its dreaded, evil, king, George bush hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of true believers everywhere. /s/Microsoft/Enemies /s/open-source software/Democracy/ etc,etc,etc destruction 2 evil 3 dreaded 1 hates 1 For goodness sake, Debian is a computer operating system, not everything is a fundementalist conflict. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please read this
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, trevor brooks wrote: Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks snip Hi Trevor, Debian is a project to produce the Debian Gnu/Linux operating system and other the Free software it uses. The 'Gnu' in Gnu/Linux are the tools created by the Gnu Project started by Richard Stallman. The 'Linux' in Gnu/Linux refers to the operating system 'kernel' created by Linux Torvalds. All (if not most) of these projects are Free Software. They are project to promote Freedom: Freedom to use the software, Freedom to change the software, Freedom to Study the software, Freedom to redistribute the software, and other Freedoms. Contributing to the Debian Project does many things. Debian is part of a larger community of people who volunteer their time, creativity, knowlege and money to empower people around the world who speak differently languages, are blind or are poor to be able to make computer do what they want. Most of there efforts result in software like web browsers or word processors. The difference is that these project use the GPL. The GPL is a legal license that says that if you want to make the software better, you can. But you must tell others how you made it better, so that others can benefit from your work. You selflessly contribute to making computer software better. This makes you part of a community, a community of people who want to make things better for others. Most of Free Software project are international and thus give you a change to interact with people all over the world, it broadends you views. This list is an example of one of the ways the 'debian users' community interacts. There are 'debian user' lists in some 10 languages. In our list, there are people from all the different continents. These lists represent ways that other people (users) ask for help from others. We on the list freely help other people to solve their computer problems. We also talk about other things like world politics, what you have for lunch or trains used in the UK. Debian is basically a project to freely help make things better around the world mostly through computers but also by creating a community of people. -kev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: please read this
It's called a joke, dumbass. Not everything revolves around the United States, or the small minority of its citzens who are idiots, such as yourself. Hey Trevor, don't listen to us. I'm a true believer, and this other guy's a retard. I think you better put something else in your assignment. --- Joyce, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Thomas Pomber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 11:03 AM To: trevor brooks; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: please read this --- trevor brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks Hi Trevor. (I mean 'dollar.') You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft. Yes! You are helping open-source software, which Microsoft and its dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of computer users everywhere. I hope you get an A. /s/Microsoft/America /s/open-source software/freedom fighter /s/Bill gates/George Bush /s/computer users/true believers You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil America. Yes! You are helping freedom fighters, which America and its dreaded, evil, king, George bush hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of true believers everywhere. /s/Microsoft/Enemies /s/open-source software/Democracy/ etc,etc,etc destruction 2 evil 3 dreaded 1 hates 1 For goodness sake, Debian is a computer operating system, not everything is a fundementalist conflict. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please read and get back to me for God seck
On Sunday 16 June 2002 07:05 pm, Pollywog wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:49:06 -0400 alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does this con have to do with Debian? Nothing, it is the now infamous 419 scam spam. You can Google 419 secret service and get more info if you are interested. - Original Message - From: Mr Charles Baiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Please read and get back to me for God seck the only thing worse than spam is responding to it. in the interest of killing the thread, nazis, ss, hitler, the spanish inquisition. are we done, yet? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please read and get back to me for God seck
At 2002-06-17T09:02:29Z, ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in the interest of killing the thread, nazis, ss, hitler, the spanish inquisition. are we done, yet? Intentionally invoking Godwin means that the thread can continue forever. Thanks. -- Kirk Strauser The Strauser Group - http://www.strausergroup.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please read and get back to me for God seck
Greetings, This letter was borne out of my sincere desire to establish a business/mutual relationship with you to invest in your country. I got your contact while I was making a research in liberary and i have the believe that you will be relaible after going through your profile. My name is Mr. Charles Baiden the son of Chief Joshua Baiden (the former deputy minister of finance under the ousted civilian government) who was killed and mutilated by the military junta led by Major, Paul Koroma after over-throwing the elected government of President Tijan Kabba. Though, I do not know to what extent you are familiar with events and disturbances in Sierra-Leone but the pressure of war drove me and my mother out of Sierra-Leone into exile in England where we have been living under political asylum for 3 years.Sadly, my mother died of cancer 6 months ago and was buried in England. Prior to her death, she handed me over a certificate meant for a secret deposit, which my father made in a security company in Accra,Ghana.The deposit that is worth $20,000,000.00 (Twenty million U.S Dollars) was money paid to his corporation by its overseas customers in the heat of the conflict. He made the deposit in his name with the hope of converting it to his personal use at the end of the war but was killed when the conflict intensified as a result of his opposition to the rebel forces. I have contacted the Security Company to confirm the deposit and establish ownership.Due to the death of my mother and the return of peace in SierraLeone,I have decided to solicit for the participation of an honest and trustworthy person or company that will assist in the transfer and business re-investment of the money. I cannot do it alone due to my present social status and total ignorance of the business world. You will be given a negotiable percentage of the money at the end of the transaction. If you are interested in the above proposal, contact me immediately through the email address indicated above or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details. You must maintain absolute confidentiality to ensure success. Please,indicate your personal Tel/Fax nos. when replying by email. Best regards, Mr.Charles Baiden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please read and get back to me for God seck
What does this con have to do with Debian? - Original Message - From: Mr Charles Baiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Please read and get back to me for God seck Greetings, This letter was borne out of my sincere desire to establish a business/mutual relationship with you to invest in your country. I got your contact while I was making a research in liberary and i have the believe that you will be relaible after going through your profile. My name is Mr. Charles Baiden the son of Chief Joshua Baiden (the former deputy minister of finance under the ousted civilian government) who was killed and mutilated by the military junta led by Major, Paul Koroma after over-throwing the elected government of President Tijan Kabba. Though, I do not know to what extent you are familiar with events and disturbances in Sierra-Leone but the pressure of war drove me and my mother out of Sierra-Leone into exile in England where we have been living under political asylum for 3 years.Sadly, my mother died of cancer 6 months ago and was buried in England. Prior to her death, she handed me over a certificate meant for a secret deposit, which my father made in a security company in Accra,Ghana.The deposit that is worth $20,000,000.00 (Twenty million U.S Dollars) was money paid to his corporation by its overseas customers in the heat of the conflict. He made the deposit in his name with the hope of converting it to his personal use at the end of the war but was killed when the conflict intensified as a result of his opposition to the rebel forces. I have contacted the Security Company to confirm the deposit and establish ownership.Due to the death of my mother and the return of peace in SierraLeone,I have decided to solicit for the participation of an honest and trustworthy person or company that will assist in the transfer and business re-investment of the money. I cannot do it alone due to my present social status and total ignorance of the business world. You will be given a negotiable percentage of the money at the end of the transaction. If you are interested in the above proposal, contact me immediately through the email address indicated above or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details. You must maintain absolute confidentiality to ensure success. Please,indicate your personal Tel/Fax nos. when replying by email. Best regards, Mr.Charles Baiden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please read and get back to me for God seck
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:49:06 -0400 alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does this con have to do with Debian? Nothing, it is the now infamous 419 scam spam. You can Google 419 secret service and get more info if you are interested. - Original Message - From: Mr Charles Baiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Please read and get back to me for God seck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-problems, please read
Hello i have a computer with a Gforce2gts 32 ddram, 1.3mhz athlon-tbird computer , 256 mb of memory. I have Debian woody installed using xf4 and Sometimes X crashes dont know why?. And i have checked /var/log/X* and .xsession-errors. The /var/ file when i do tail the only error i see is: mouse protocol could not be determined and in the .xsession errors i dont see anything like that. Please if u have any ideas of how i can find what is causing X to crash please let me know, or if u know what maybe causing X to crash please let me know. Thanks to all in advance
XFree86 news; users of TESTING or UNSTABLE, PLEASE READ
[Here are the latest news items from the X Strike Force webpage; see the URL in my .signature.] There is a small problem with a very obvious effect in XFree86 4.1.0-7. It consists of erroneous quoting of a shell variable in the file /etc/ X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start. This problem was warned about shortly after 4.1.0-7 was released on the debian-devel and debian-x mailing lists, but apparently lots of people who use Debian's releases-in-preparation, testing (woody) and unstable (sid), do not read these lists. Also, many folks apparently do not take advantage of the features of packages like reportbug, or otherwise check_the_existing_list_of_bug_reports_against_a_package before filing a new one. Remember, as satisfying as expressing your anger, frustration, and/or annoyance with a bug may be, filing additional reports just forces the maintainer to spend time doing bug triage that could be spent preparing a fixed package. In this case, however, a preview of the next release (XFree86 4.1.0-7pre8v1) is available for i386 in my repository. If you're already using either of these versions, I suggest reading the new Xsession manpage, which I almost completely rewrote to properly document the new run- parts approach to the Xsession.d directory. Just man Xsession and you're good to go. In other news, automatic usage of xmodmap on X session startup is now deprecated. The main reason for this is that unpredictable things can happen if both the system and the user are using Xmodmap files, and sometimes the user doesn't even have to have one for the keyboard to get screwed up by unintended side effects; if you want to use Xmodmap to prep the keyboard for use with the xdm greeter (login widget) for instance, you may execute it in a file like /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup, but it will get run again when the session starts, followed by a user's Xmodmap, for a total of three possible executions of Xmodmap for a single X session. Unless the files are carefully written, this can cause the keyboard to behave strangely. Therefore, on upgrading to 4.1.0- 7 or later, the files /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap and /etc/ X11/Xmodmap are no longer marked as conffiles, and are moved to /etc/X11/ Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap.xfree86-common-old and /etc/X11/ Xmodmap.xbase-clients-old respectively, if they are unchanged from the version last distributed as a conffile with the package. This decision is made separately for each file; if you've changed it, it doesn't get moved and stays where it is, on the presumption that you're actively using this feature. What used to be /etc/X11/Xmodmap continues to be available, however, as /usr/share/ doc/xbase-clients/examples/Xmodmap, and the Xsession manual page describes how to write a replacement for /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap. Of course, if you're upgrading, you can just move the -old versions of these files back into place. Be sure to give them different names, or change their contents (say, by adding a comment), so that they aren't moved again on the next upgrade of XFree86. -- G. Branden Robinson|I've made up my mind. Don't try to Debian GNU/Linux |confuse me with the facts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Indiana Senator Earl Landgrebe http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpShKJMnTiJz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 news; users of TESTING or UNSTABLE, PLEASE READ
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: doc/xbase-clients/examples/Xmodmap, and the Xsession manual page describes how to write a replacement for /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap. Of course, if you're upgrading, you can just move the -old versions of these files back into place. Be sure to give them different names, or change their contents (say, by adding a comment), so that they aren't moved again on the next upgrade of XFree86. Why give these different names? dpkg passes the previous version to maintainer scripts, so you can check what is being upgraded from. If this version is less that 4.1.0-7, then do the move. Otherwise, not. Don't inflict additional pain on an admin, when this kind of check can be automated.
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
No offense intended, but this is some of the WORST advice I've heard on this list to date. If you fear you may have been compromised, by all means, and for the love of us all, unplug your network cable at once. If for no other reason than this: Your system could possibly be launching attacks at other systems unbeknownst to you, for which you can be held legally and financially accountable. No offence taken. Its worth thinking of a bigger picture. The vast majority of *nix boxes are servers. They are production machines and you simply cannot pull the cable out. You need time to migrate the service to a new machine. I know in an ideal world you'd have backup servers for each service but most of us tend to have one backup machine that gets reconfigured when it needs to take the place of a production machine. This takes time. You do have time. As long as the data is intact and the services the machine is intended to provide are running, your personal job security is way more important than protecting other peoples networks. Unplug it NOW, and start doing some digging to find out what's really This works for desktop machines. When you unplug a production machine, the first thing you lose is time because you have the users, the users managers, your manager and the office teaboy banging on the machine room door demanding that their accounts be restored, web-pages put back online or whatever. Under those circumstances, opening that door means you have a busy day on your hands and forget about computers! Running a script to repeatedly kill the process will only burn your CPU cycles; if indeed the process is Respawning because it's a trojan the reality of the situation is that other things on your system have been tampered with. If there's some recurring process (via cron or something) that restarts the app, a better (but still bad) idea would be to stop that cron job. IMO, the only acceptable course of action is to pull your cables and get down and dirty with some forensics. Its important not to panic. Take a deep breath. Assume the worst, that not just this machine but others are compromised. In all probability, its a fellow employee from within the firewall that's done it. Get your data back and then reformat the machine. You have no problem if your machine stays up and infected while you are getting your data back. ITs not your job to protect the Internet. You will be fired if yo lose data or deprive your users of an important service. The most important thing is to get the replacement right. This can't happen twice. And remember that its a colleague is the most likely bad guy. Changing the combination of the keypad on the machine room door is the best form of defence! -- Patrick sig free and jouful Kirk GSM: +44 7876 560 646 ICQ: 42219699
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On Wednesday 08 August 2001 01:53, P Kirk pronounced: No offense intended, but this is some of the WORST advice I've heard on this list to date. If you fear you may have been compromised, by all means, and for the love of us all, unplug your network cable at once. If for no other reason than this: Your system could possibly be launching attacks at other systems unbeknownst to you, for which you can be held legally and financially accountable. No offence taken. Its worth thinking of a bigger picture. The vast majority of *nix boxes are servers. They are production machines and you simply cannot pull the cable out. You need time to migrate the service to a new machine. I know in an ideal world you'd have backup servers for each service but most of us tend to have one backup machine that gets reconfigured when it needs to take the place of a production machine. This takes time. You do have time. As long as the data is intact and the services the machine is intended to provide are running, your personal job security is way more important than protecting other peoples networks. Unplug it NOW, and start doing some digging to find out what's really UNPLUG IT NOW! that is still the most important advice. and this is even more important in a production environment. the last thing you want is to have a server, no matter how important, spreading viruses. the job security questions are more likely going to be who allowed it to happen in first place and why wasn't it taken out of the networked! my $.02 worth. -- regards, allen wayne best, esq your friendly neighborhood rambler owner my rambler will go from 0 to 105 Current date: 6:22:8::219:2001 Certain passages in several laws have always defied interpretation and the most inexplicable must be a matter of opinion. A judge of the Court of Session of Scotland has sent the editors of this book his candidate which reads, In the Nuts (unground), (other than ground nuts) Order, the expression nuts shall have reference to such nuts, other than ground nuts, as would but for this amending Order not qualify as nuts (unground) (other than ground nuts) by reason of their being nuts (unground). -- Guiness Book of World Records, 1973
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On 0, Allen Wayne Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2001 01:53, P Kirk pronounced: No offense intended, but this is some of the WORST advice I've heard on this list to date. If you fear you may have been compromised, by all means, and for the love of us all, unplug your network cable at once. If for no other reason than this: Your system could possibly be launching attacks at other systems unbeknownst to you, for which you can be held legally and financially accountable. No offence taken. Its worth thinking of a bigger picture. The vast majority of *nix boxes are servers. They are production machines and you simply cannot pull the cable out. You need time to migrate the service to a new machine. I know in an ideal world you'd have backup servers for each service but most of us tend to have one backup machine that gets reconfigured when it needs to take the place of a production machine. This takes time. You do have time. As long as the data is intact and the services the machine is intended to provide are running, your personal job security is way more important than protecting other peoples networks. Unplug it NOW, and start doing some digging to find out what's really UNPLUG IT NOW! that is still the most important advice. and this is even more important in a production environment. the last thing you want is to have a server, no matter how important, spreading viruses. the job security questions are more likely going to be who allowed it to happen in first place and why wasn't it taken out of the networked! my $.02 worth. Actually the last thing you want is lost data. So recover your data now. Then list what the machine does and build the replacement. Ideally this should be as simple as turning on some daemons and restoring data onto the new machine. It may take some time. But do that first because its very hard to do when the users are pounding on your door. And users do pound on the door when a server goes offline. Put the replacement in place, take your machine down and then your can do as you please. When it happened with the BSD box, it was a mail server for an ISP. The IT guys did want to pull the plug but since it was clearly one of them had done it, we sent them home, had the IT manager build a replacement and migrate the mail over. It took 2 days mainly because we had to buy kit. The kill scripts meant that only smtp and pop were available. I really don't see how pulling a few thousand email accounts and having the owners charging in demanding action would have helped. IT is about data and services. Crackers and viruses are a nuisance. Preventing them is good housekeeping. But its not your job...your job is to keep data safe and services available. As for job security, we fired 2 IT guys, changed the passwords and door combinations and i got a pay rise out of it :-) capacity in the
please read: very odd network traffic
I think my machine has been compromised though i'm not entirely sure. I suddenly saw a reasonable amount of traffic when I wasn't going anything that could generate it so I turned off all the net connection using applications and still there was traffic. Opened top to see if there was a process that wasn't terminated yet, nope.. that wasn't it. Turned off networking. Tried netstat -ap and found to my great dismay that inetd had started the ftp service or atleast that port was available. I accidentally installed wu-ftp awhile ago but i thought i had removed it.. oh well. So, commented it out and restarted inetd. no luck.. the moment i started the networking script there was traffic. Turned off networking. But not before using Ethereal to capture a few packets. I've added an attachment with the log, could someone take a look at it and tell me what could be causing this.. it would seem like something (a worm or virus) is scanning the network looking for (vulnerable?) computers. I'll be keeping this computer off the net till i find out what it is.. only briefly turning on networking to check my mail. all help is greatly appreciated, i'm lost on this one. William Leese
Fwd: please read: very odd network traffic
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: please read: very odd network traffic Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:40:11 +0200 From: William Leese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I think my machine has been compromised though i'm not entirely sure. I suddenly saw a reasonable amount of traffic when I wasn't going anything that could generate it so I turned off all the net connection using applications and still there was traffic. Opened top to see if there was a process that wasn't terminated yet, nope.. that wasn't it. Turned off networking. Tried netstat -ap and found to my great dismay that inetd had started the ftp service or atleast that port was available. I accidentally installed wu-ftp awhile ago but i thought i had removed it.. oh well. So, commented it out and restarted inetd. no luck.. the moment i started the networking script there was traffic. Turned off networking. But not before using Ethereal to capture a few packets. I've added an attachment with the log, could someone take a look at it and tell me what could be causing this.. it would seem like something (a worm or virus) is scanning the network looking for (vulnerable?) computers. I'll be keeping this computer off the net till i find out what it is.. only briefly turning on networking to check my mail. all help is greatly appreciated, i'm lost on this one. William Leese ---
Fwd: please read: very odd network traffic
urgh, and now with the attachment -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: please read: very odd network traffic Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:40:11 +0200 From: William Leese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I think my machine has been compromised though i'm not entirely sure. I suddenly saw a reasonable amount of traffic when I wasn't going anything that could generate it so I turned off all the net connection using applications and still there was traffic. Opened top to see if there was a process that wasn't terminated yet, nope.. that wasn't it. Turned off networking. Tried netstat -ap and found to my great dismay that inetd had started the ftp service or atleast that port was available. I accidentally installed wu-ftp awhile ago but i thought i had removed it.. oh well. So, commented it out and restarted inetd. no luck.. the moment i started the networking script there was traffic. Turned off networking. But not before using Ethereal to capture a few packets. I've added an attachment with the log, could someone take a look at it and tell me what could be causing this.. it would seem like something (a worm or virus) is scanning the network looking for (vulnerable?) computers. I'll be keeping this computer off the net till i find out what it is.. only briefly turning on networking to check my mail. all help is greatly appreciated, i'm lost on this one. William Leese --- log Description: Binary data
Fwd: Re: please read: very odd network traffic
-- Forwarded Message -- there's more though. but again i'm not sure.. for the first time i've seen a few odd requests being logged in boa, just a small snippet: [07/Aug/2001:06:26:03 +] request from 195.38.105.70 GET /default.ida? X X XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u780 1%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 (/var/www/default.ida): document open: No such file or directory [07/Aug/2001:07:13:08 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:07:43:15 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:07:59:05 +] malformed request: %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858% ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b %u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.1 [07/Aug/2001:08:17:28 +] request from 195.38.44.138 GET /default.ida? X X XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u780 1%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 (/var/www/default.ida): document open: No such file or directory [07/Aug/2001:08:31:51 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:08:57:30 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:09:08:55 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:09:13:38 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:09:20:26 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 [07/Aug/2001:09:29:23 +] bogus HTTP version: HTTP/1.0 this all seems rather coincedential.. and seems to confirm my idea of being infected with a virus/worm.. hope this helps (me, heh.. :) On Tuesday 07 August 2001 18:40, William Leese wrote: I think my machine has been compromised though i'm not entirely sure. I suddenly saw a reasonable amount of traffic when I wasn't going anything that could generate it so I turned off all the net connection using applications and still there was traffic. Opened top to see if there was a process that wasn't terminated yet, nope.. that wasn't it. Turned off networking. Tried netstat -ap and found to my great dismay that inetd had started the ftp service or atleast that port was available. I accidentally installed wu-ftp awhile ago but i thought i had removed it.. oh well. So, commented it out and restarted inetd. no luck.. the moment i started the networking script there was traffic. Turned off networking. But not before using Ethereal to capture a few packets. I've added an attachment with the log, could someone take a look at it and tell me what could be causing this.. it would seem like something (a worm or virus) is scanning the network looking for (vulnerable?) computers. ---
Re: Fwd: Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 06:53:38PM +0200, William Leese wrote: there's more though. but again i'm not sure.. for the first time i've seen a few odd requests being logged in boa, just a small snippet: [07/Aug/2001:06:26:03 +] request from 195.38.105.70 GET /default.ida? X X XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u780 1%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 (/var/www/default.ida): document open: No such file or directory Code Red Mk. II. See any of the recent Code Red threads or incidents.org for more information. -- With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not safe for non US software engineers to visit the United States. - Alan Cox To prevent unauthorized reading... - Adobe eBook reader license
Re: Re: please read: very odd network traffic
[07/Aug/2001:06:26:03 +] request from 195.38.105.70 GET /default.ida? That's from the Code Red, or some variant of it, worm... Hall
Re: Fwd: Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On Tuesday 07 August 2001 18:59, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 06:53:38PM +0200, William Leese wrote: there's more though. but again i'm not sure.. for the first time i've seen a few odd requests being logged in boa, just a small snippet: [07/Aug/2001:06:26:03 +] request from 195.38.105.70 GET /default.ida? X X XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3% u780 1%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 (/var/www/default.ida): document open: No such file or directory Code Red Mk. II. See any of the recent Code Red threads or incidents.org for more information. Thanks to those who replied. This is a little starteling. Although the meter rarely goes above 2.6K it's constant. Not something I'd fear bring the internet to it's knees but it's nothing i've seen before on my home connection.
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
Saw something similiar in a FreeBSD box once. It was a trojan ftp daemon that started off some obscure user like sysgetty or some other official looking name. The RAID had 36 gigs of mp3s and porn. You might want to backup your data and reinstall if no-one has a more knowledgable answer. In the meantime there's no need to disconnect from the net. Just have a rolling kill command that kills ftpd every second. I don't have shell skills yet but in dos it would be 2 files killa.bat and killb.bat killa.bat says killall ftpd and call killb.bat and killb does the same in reverse. I know someone must have a neat shell script that does this? -- Patrick No sig in my .sig Kirk GSM: +44 7876 560 646 ICQ: 42219699
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 08:29:39PM +0100, P Kirk wrote: Saw something similiar in a FreeBSD box once. It was a trojan ftp daemon that started off some obscure user like sysgetty or some other official looking name. The RAID had 36 gigs of mp3s and porn. You might want to backup your data and reinstall if no-one has a more knowledgable answer. In the meantime there's no need to disconnect from the net. Just have a rolling kill command that kills ftpd every second. I don't have shell skills yet but in dos it would be 2 files killa.bat and killb.bat killa.bat says killall ftpd and call killb.bat and killb does the same in reverse. I know someone must have a neat shell script that does this? while true; do killall ftpd sleep 1 done -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpM9aWXbK5eS.pgp Description: PGP signature
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...and only one script needed :-) -- Patrick No sig in my .sig Kirk GSM: +44 7876 560 646 ICQ: 42219699
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 08:29:39PM +0100, P Kirk wrote: In the meantime there's no need to disconnect from the net. Just have a rolling kill command that kills ftpd every second. Uh... Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to just shut down the ftp service (either /etc/init.d/ftpd stop or comment it out in inetd.conf and then /etc/init.d/inetd restart), work on it, and restart the service? -- With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not safe for non US software engineers to visit the United States. - Alan Cox To prevent unauthorized reading... - Adobe eBook reader license
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
Uh... Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to just shut down the ftp service (either /etc/init.d/ftpd stop or comment it out in inetd.conf and then /etc/init.d/inetd restart), work on it, and restart the service? Because being a trojan it respawns every time you stop it. Otherwise it would be a rather pointless waste of some crackers time wouldn't it? -- Patrick No sig in my .sig Kirk GSM: +44 7876 560 646 ICQ: 42219699
Re: Fwd: Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, William Leese wrote: On Tuesday 07 August 2001 18:59, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 06:53:38PM +0200, William Leese wrote: there's more though. but again i'm not sure.. for the first time i've seen a few odd requests being logged in boa, just a small snippet: [07/Aug/2001:06:26:03 +] request from 195.38.105.70 GET /default.ida? X X XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3% u780 1%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 (/var/www/default.ida): document open: No such file or directory Code Red Mk. II. See any of the recent Code Red threads or incidents.org for more information. Thanks to those who replied. This is a little starteling. Although the meter rarely goes above 2.6K it's constant. Not something I'd fear bring the internet to it's knees but it's nothing i've seen before on my home connection. Multiply it out by 100 threads per CR worm and the thousands of CR carriers now. It WILL probably bring the Internet to its knees if some IIS admins don't start pulling their heads out. -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
On 07-Aug 08:29, P Kirk wrote: [snip] killa.bat says killall ftpd and call killb.bat and killb does the same in reverse. I know someone must have a neat shell script that does this? -- [a bash script] $while true; do killall ftpd; sleep 1; done; Thomas pgpS5WslsxtQU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: please read: very odd network traffic
* P Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010807 12:32]: Saw something similiar in a FreeBSD box once. It was a trojan ftp daemon that started off some obscure user like sysgetty or some other official looking name. The RAID had 36 gigs of mp3s and porn. You might want to backup your data and reinstall if no-one has a more knowledgable answer. In the meantime there's no need to disconnect from the net. Just have a rolling kill command that kills ftpd every second. I don't have shell No offense intended, but this is some of the WORST advice I've heard on this list to date. If you fear you may have been compromised, by all means, and for the love of us all, unplug your network cable at once. If for no other reason than this: Your system could possibly be launching attacks at other systems unbeknownst to you, for which you can be held legally and financially accountable. Unplug it NOW, and start doing some digging to find out what's really going on. If you find modified binaries, etc. the easiest way to recover (IMHO) is to reinstall and restore your (verified clean) data from backups. Running a script to repeatedly kill the process will only burn your CPU cycles; if indeed the process is Respawning because it's a trojan the reality of the situation is that other things on your system have been tampered with. If there's some recurring process (via cron or something) that restarts the app, a better (but still bad) idea would be to stop that cron job. IMO, the only acceptable course of action is to pull your cables and get down and dirty with some forensics. Vineet pgpuyQQ21Nct1.pgp Description: PGP signature
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* William Leese ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010807 10:35]: urgh, and now with the attachment The attached log just shows a bunch of broadcast ARP requests. It could be that this is part of some kind of network scanner in action, but it's pretty inconclusive, afaics. -- Vineet http://www.anti-dmca.org Unauthorized use of this .sig may constitute violation of US law. Qba'g gernq ba zr!|tr 'a-zA-Z' 'n-za-mN-ZA-M' pgpgLv8Lk6eBm.pgp Description: PGP signature
xanim problems please read me..
Hi.. I was not being able to get sound output from xanim.. I am using alsa with oss emulation (all the latest stable debian versions).. This are my modules: snd-card-sb16 3512 0 snd-mpu401-uart 1784 0 [snd-card-sb16] snd-sb16-csp6188 0 [snd-card-sb16] snd-hwdep 2636 0 [snd-card-sb16 snd-sb16-csp] snd-sb16-dsp 16308 0 [snd-card-sb16 snd-sb16-csp] snd-pcm1 16636 0 [snd-pcm1-oss snd-sb16-dsp] snd-timer 7772 0 [snd-pcm1] snd-mixer 24768 0 [snd-mixer-oss snd-card-sb16 snd-sb16-dsp] snd-midi 12460 0 [snd-card-sb16 snd-mpu401-uart] snd-pcm 8780 0 [snd-pcm1-oss snd-card-sb16 snd-sb16-dsp snd-pcm1] snd33708 1 [snd-pcm1-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-card-sb16 snd-mpu401-uart snd-sb16-csp snd-hwdep snd-sb16-dsp snd-pcm1 snd-timer snd-mixer snd-midi snd-pcm] soundcore 2372 4 [snd] snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm1-oss Now I see that if I launch gamix and put the PCM to the highest value I get a little bit of sound (very low I hardly can listen it) my card is a sb16 the output is obtained via loudspeakers (In the line-out plug I cant listen the audio from xanim in the same conditions). The rest of the sound system is working perfectly.. Please some ideas at least let me know you have read this posting.. Thank you!! Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
Re: xanim problems please read me..
RD == Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RD Now I see that if I launch gamix and put the PCM to the RD highest value I get a little bit of sound (very low I hardly RD can listen it) my card is a sb16 the output is obtained via RD loudspeakers (In the line-out plug I cant listen the audio RD from xanim in the same conditions). I seem to recall that xanim has its own volume control slider, and it sets it to a very low level upon startup. Did you try using xanim itself to adjust the volume? -- Pity has no place at my table. -- Dr Hannibal Lecter
Re: xanim problems please read me..
Of course.. I forgot to mention that xanin volume control is at 100% too.. But there are nobody here who can help me with this thing? RD Now I see that if I launch gamix and put the PCM to the RD highest value I get a little bit of sound (very low I hardly RD can listen it) my card is a sb16 the output is obtained via RD loudspeakers (In the line-out plug I cant listen the audio RD from xanim in the same conditions). I seem to recall that xanim has its own volume control slider, and it sets it to a very low level upon startup. Did you try using xanim itself to adjust the volume? Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
no icons in KDE2, please read
I have saved an attachment of my screen. after updating a few packages, don't think anything new was installed. I experienced a problem w/ kde2. no desktop image, can't lock screen, sreensaver doesn't stop after moving mouse, I have to hit a key on the keyboard to stop it. there must be a missing link somewhere. I noticed that the system attempts to change from the default 'off white' screen, to an image, but doesn't. Are there any logs that might display a problem? Thanks, sorry for posting the message in two parts -Nick snapshot2.png Description: PNG image
Re: [OT] all you emulator folk, please read this
Hey, Over the past year, I have begun a conquest to find the perfect emu's = under Linux. Here's what I got. SNES: snes9x: beautiful, I love this emulator, the only flaw is, no = screenshot support? correct me if I'm wrong about the screenshots GENESIS: dgen: not to great, they say it's the best Linux has to offer. = Please tell me this is not true. The sound quality/timing sucks, and I can't get the joystick support to work. MAME: mame: excellent, no problems PLAYSTATION: I haven't found anything that is working (yet). N64: same as Playstation. DREAMCAST: I Don't think this has ever been emulated at all Anyways, if you guys can think of any others I need to know about, = please share. Your list is pretty much what I've come up with as well, minus some missing systems! Go to http://www.zophar.net and look on the right hand side. Unix emulators are way down at the bottom, but they're there. This is the best list of emulators available for Linux I've seen. Mess, the sister project to MAME is very interesting. Simply put, it's trying to support game consoles (NES, Sega Master System, Genesis, Atari 2600, etc.) and old computers (TI-994A, C64, Apple IIe, etc.). Pretty much everything that MAME doesn't emulate! For some reason though, most emulator developers perfer to start from scratch vs. using a very functional code-base (aka MAME). I understand there is more to learn by reinventing the wheel and you can optimize more, but cmon...Oh well. IMHO, Linux is behind Windoze in emulation but I've been working to change that:) Scott
Re: [OT] all you emulator folk, please read this
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 07:17:52PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote: PLAYSTATION: I haven't found anything that is working (yet). I found a free playstation emulator that ran under Linux (even got it working under ppc-linux). I forget the name of it though. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
[OT] all you emulator folk, please read this
Hey, Over the past year, I have begun a conquest to find the perfect emu's under Linux. Here's what I got. SNES: snes9x: beautiful, I love this emulator, the only flaw is, no screenshot support? correct me if I'm wrong about the screenshots GENESIS: dgen: not to great, they say it's the best Linux has to offer. Please tell me this is not true. The sound quality/timing sucks, and I can't get the joystick support to work. MAME: mame: excellent, no problems PLAYSTATION: I haven't found anything that is working (yet). N64: same as Playstation. DREAMCAST: I Don't think this has ever been emulated at all Anyways, if you guys can think of any others I need to know about, please share. Thanks, Cameron Matheson
Strange logon problem with CAPS. Please read you all!
Hello, folks. Some friend told me about a problem he has with Slack7.1, and I tested with Debian 2.2 (upgraded from net) and worked the same. Let me explain: Make sure CAPS-LOCK is off; In a console logon, press CAPS-LOCK before typing your login name; Type in your login name and press Enter. The word PASSWORD will be show all caps; Press CAPS-LOCK again and type your password an press Enter. Voila! The text now is all-CAPS. ls has glitches, and ls --color doesn't display any color. Emacs and other console programs doesn't display its interfaces in the right way. It affects the current console only. Any ideas? Taupter
Re: Strange logon problem with CAPS. Please read you all!
On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 03:08:27AM -0300, Taupter wrote: Hello, folks. Some friend told me about a problem he has with Slack7.1, and I tested with Debian 2.2 (upgraded from net) and worked the same. Let me explain: Make sure CAPS-LOCK is off; In a console logon, press CAPS-LOCK before typing your login name; Type in your login name and press Enter. The word PASSWORD will be show all caps; Press CAPS-LOCK again and type your password an press Enter. Voila! The text now is all-CAPS. ls has glitches, and ls --color doesn't display any color. Emacs and other console programs doesn't display its interfaces in the right way. It affects the current console only. This is a feature, not a bug. Early Unix assumed that if you entered your login in all capitals, the terminal was incapable of lowercase. The session was then executed in upper case. User input is case-shifted to lc, system output is case-shifted to UC. Disable capslock before entering your userid. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpvK9toy1a7v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange logon problem with CAPS. Please read you all!
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 11:59:18PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 03:08:27AM -0300, Taupter wrote: ... Voila! The text now is all-CAPS. ls has glitches, and ls --color doesn't display any color. Emacs and other console programs doesn't display its interfaces in the right way. It affects the current console only. This is a feature, not a bug. Early Unix assumed that if you entered your login in all capitals, the terminal was incapable of lowercase. The session was then executed in upper case. User input is case-shifted to lc, system output is case-shifted to UC. Disable capslock before entering your userid. I stumbled onto this yesterday for the first time. While the login went OK (what happens with a mixed--UC and lc--password?), I was flustered enough to immediately type reset which eliminated the behavior. Maybe when I get in a playful mood I'll explore the consequences a bit more... :-) Kenward -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! --
Re: Strange logon problem with CAPS. Please read you all!
On 26-Aug-2000 Kenward Vaughan wrote: [...] I stumbled onto this yesterday for the first time. While the login went OK (what happens with a mixed--UC and lc--password?) Nothing strange. Just type the password as you would at a lower case passwd prompt, and you'll be logged in.
Re: Strange logon problem with CAPS. Please read you all!
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Taupter wrote: Some friend told me about a problem he has with Slack7.1, and I tested with Debian 2.2 (upgraded from net) and worked the same. Let me explain: Make sure CAPS-LOCK is off; In a console logon, press CAPS-LOCK before typing your login name; Type in your login name and press Enter. The word PASSWORD will be show all caps; Press CAPS-LOCK again and type your password an press Enter. Voila! The text now is all-CAPS. ls has glitches, and ls --color doesn't display any color. Emacs and other console programs doesn't display its interfaces in the right way. It affects the current console only. This is not a bug, it's a feature (really!). Back in the olden days, some terminals didn't support both upper- and lowercase characters (say, for instance, a Teletype). By typing in all uppercase, you're telling /bin/login that you want everything to 7-bit clean (*) for the duration of that login-session. Hence, the lack of color (controlled by escape sequences). Fix: Don't type your login name in all uppercase. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | She who says, does not know. http://www.debian.org | She who knows, does not say. |- Tao Te Ching
Re: please read this everyone
James Waterhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone, thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm a new user of debian and I seem to be having troubles. I'm running ypbind on a mac (running debian-68k 2.2) and I cannot get it to bind to my nis server (I've had no problems with any of the other computers I have set up). When I run ypbind -broadcast ypbind just exist. My network is good cause as I said I have other computers using the nis server. I can also reach the dns server from the troubled computer and mount nis volumes, ftp, http, etc. When I place a ypserver line in my /etc/yp.conf file the ypbind -c command says the file is alright but when I run ypbind it segfaults. The only way I can get ypbind to work is by starting it with the following ypbind -debug -broadcast -ypsetme and then using ypset to set the nis server. Even then though it dies unexpectidly at times. Has this happened to anyone else? If you can test this then please do. For all those interested I am running debian-68k (the mac version) potato 2.2 (the latest one) on a mac LC 630. If you have any feedback the please CC it to my email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I am not signed up to either debian-devel or debian-user. Thanks for your time. James James, please use a better subject line. I have no idea what's wrong in your case, but make sure /etc/network/interfaces contains a line 'iface lo inet loopback' that's not commented out. -- Andre
please read this everyone
Hello everyone, thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm a new user of debian and I seem to be having troubles. I'm running ypbind on a mac (running debian-68k 2.2) and I cannot get it to bind to my nis server (I've had no problems with any of the other computers I have set up). When I run ypbind -broadcast ypbind just exist. My network is good cause as I said I have other computers using the nis server. I can also reach the dns server from the troubled computer and mount nis volumes, ftp, http, etc. When I place a ypserver line in my /etc/yp.conf file the ypbind -c command says the file is alright but when I run ypbind it segfaults. The only way I can get ypbind to work is by starting it with the following ypbind -debug -broadcast -ypsetme and then using ypset to set the nis server. Even then though it dies unexpectidly at times. Has this happened to anyone else? If you can test this then please do. For all those interested I am running debian-68k (the mac version) potato 2.2 (the latest one) on a mac LC 630. If you have any feedback the please CC it to my email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I am not signed up to either debian-devel or debian-user. Thanks for your time. James -- Can you discern the signs of the times? || www.danielrevelation.com Do you see the storm fast approaching? || www.sundaylaw.com Is your future built on The Rock? || www.bibleinfo.com/sc/toc_sc.html
Re: please read this everyone
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:07:31PM -0400, James Waterhouse wrote: I'd strongly suggest a different and more descriptive subject line. Your email looks like spam to the casual reader. You don't want everyone to read it, you want people with specific interest and knowledge in 68K debian installs. Otherwise you're wasting the time of thousands of eyeballs reading this list. ...I'm one of the people who read your email who *doesn't* have the faintest clue what the solution to your problem is. Please provide more detail and show consideration for a shared resource. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpqqBjFfNXy4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Reporting bugs: please read
I've been intending to post a rant about how users should approach reporting bugs in Debian for quite a while, but Freshmeat beat me to it. There are a number of ways in which non-programmers can contribute to software projects; documentation and testing are among the most frequently-requested services, but testing that results in useless bug reports accomplishes nothing but frustrating the programmer. Today, Simon Tatham shares what it's like to be on the receiving end of bug reports, and offers suggestions for how you can help resolve problems as quickly as possible. http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/02/26/951627540.html This editorial is completly right in everything it says. Please read it and keep it in mind when filing bug reports. Thanks! -- see shy jo
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Marshall Savage wrote: Filtering gets the email messages from the listserver into the correct separate email box. However it does nothing for the overwhelming volumn problem which threading would considerably help. Both web based discussion managers news reader programs handle treading well. For a group of this volume you would need a good discussion server at least one public server that I know of just isn't up to the job. It's to busy for good service. I wonder why this listserver group hasn't long ago gone to a news/news server I agree that threading is pretty much necessary for reading these lists, but there is another reason I prefer that it stay with mail. I suspect (I have no data :) that because 1) a mailing list requires active subscription to use effectively 2) the mail is intrusive, people are much more thoughtful about what they post. With a news group, it's so easy to send tons of crap without feeling (as) guilty. The result is, this list stays on-topic comparatively well. Also, and this is not so persuasive, I keep up better because if I don't, I'll be flooded very quickly. -Michael P.S. Pine threads also (sort-of) Michael Stenner Office Phone: 919-660-2513 Duke University, Dept. of Physics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: groups. I use mutt to read my mail, and it threads email. GNUs also does this. If worst comes to worst, and you _MUST_ use a news reader to read debian-user, use mail2news with a filtering program (exim or procmail) and run your own news server. Worst? Hello? Mutt's threading of email is imho pretty basic, but I'm used to using trn for reading mailing lists... There are disadvantages, but I think in balance I prefer it this way... lots... ;) SRH -- Steve HaslamValidation Engineer, ARM Limited, Cambridge, England I will protect you from your visions to save you from illusions I will protect you from ideals to save you from defeat[covenant]
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Filtering gets the email messages from the listserver into the correct separate email box. However it does nothing for the overwhelming volumn problem which threading would considerably help. Both web based discussion managers news reader programs handle treading well. For a group of this volume you would need a good discussion server at least one public server that I know of just isn't up to the job. It's to busy for good service. I wonder why this listserver group hasn't long ago gone to a news/news server format for the much better accessibility of the threaded news readers. It doesn't have to be part of the public news system with it's well known loss of messages, advertisements, harvesting of email addresses for future spam. If Debian can set up run the fancy listserver as they have they could just as well instead run a private or semi-private news server that only has Debian news/discussion on it. There are a reasonable number of such already on the net. The existing searchable email archive could be just as good or better as a news archive. At 3/10/99 08:56 AM , you wrote: From: Nuno Donato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for reading my message. I am a member of the Debian Linux Mailing List(just like you) and I know how boring is to receive every day hundreds of e-mails, and don't have time to read it all. So now I have found a much easier way. Click on the link on the bottom of my email to go directly to my page: Unofficial Debian Linux Message Board Yes that's it! A message board it's much easier to use and you don't have hundred of e-mails in you Inbox every day. So I will wait you all there. See ya! http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb392374 At 3/10/99 01:58 PM , you wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:34:38 -0500 (EST), Christopher J. Morrone wrote: Agreed. I think that he just needs an introduction into the wonderful world of maill filtering. procmail is our friend. procmail, exim filters, or do what I do, use a Windows client that has filtering built in. :)
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On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 10:16:17PM -0700, Marshall Savage wrote: Filtering gets the email messages from the listserver into the correct separate email box. However it does nothing for the overwhelming volumn problem which threading would considerably help. Both web based discussion managers news reader programs handle treading well. For a group of this volume you would need a good discussion server at least one public server that I know of just isn't up to the job. It's to busy for good service. I wonder why this listserver group hasn't long ago gone to a news/news server format for the much better accessibility of the threaded news readers. It doesn't have to be part of the public news system with it's well known loss of messages, advertisements, harvesting of email addresses for future spam. If Debian can set up run the fancy listserver as they have they could just as well instead run a private or semi-private news server that only has Debian news/discussion on it. There are a reasonable number of such already on the net. The existing searchable email archive could be just as good or better as a news archive. At 3/10/99 08:56 AM , you wrote: From: Nuno Donato [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with you, threading is a must for the debian-* groups. I use mutt to read my mail, and it threads email. GNUs also does this. If worst comes to worst, and you _MUST_ use a news reader to read debian-user, use mail2news with a filtering program (exim or procmail) and run your own news server. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
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Thank you for reading my message. I am a member of the Debian Linux Mailing List(just like you) and I know how boring is to receive every day hundreds of e-mails, and don't have time to read it all. So now I have found a much easier way. Click on the link on the bottom of my email to go directly to my page: Unofficial Debian Linux Message Board Yes that's it! A message board it's much easier to use and you don't have hundred of e-mails in you Inbox every day. So I will wait you all there. See ya! http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb392374 __ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email
