Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 13:55:40 +0800, Long Wind wrote:

 it seems that experts are few

There are some X devels reading this list but they can be busy or simple 
is that they still have not read your message.

 I find vesa driver can work

Fine, but that's not a suitable driver to use for a GUI based system.

 anyway it's linux
 sometime i put up with this and that
 sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own expert help
 isn't always freely available.

You sound like a haiku, sir.

 I'll leave the list

Oh, bye then!

 Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com

Don't hold your breath...

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com wrote:

 it seems that experts are few
 I find vesa driver can work
 anyway it's linux
 sometime i put up with this and that
 sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own
 expert help isn't always freely available.
 I'll leave the list
 Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com

What a wonderful attitude!


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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:24:28AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 13:55:40 +0800, Long Wind wrote:
 
  it seems that experts are few
 
 There are some X devels reading this list but they can be busy or simple 
 is that they still have not read your message.
 
  I find vesa driver can work
 
 Fine, but that's not a suitable driver to use for a GUI based system.
 
  anyway it's linux
  sometime i put up with this and that
  sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own expert help
  isn't always freely available.
 
 You sound like a haiku, sir.
 
  I'll leave the list
 
 Oh, bye then!
 
  Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com
 
 Don't hold your breath...
 

Top o' the mornin' to ya!
Looking at his attached log, I see Longwind has a 
fairly elaborate config, and it gives a suggestion 
about udev. I was going to ask him for more info 
and suggest he rename his xorg.conf and try the automagic 
version to see what happens...

Anyway, he sure is impatient!
Hope he knows we don't refund support fees, and he 
may get hit with an early cancellation fee, too.
;)

Oh well, back to the morning tea ritual...

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sat, 05 May 2012 12:10:02 +0200
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:

 What a wonderful attitude!

people will crack 
under the strain
even when 
they've got a brain
that tells them no
alternative
but get back in 
the game

not haiku free verse instead

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problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Long Wind
i have just installed Debian 6
it has problem with my video card
i have to set to 15 bit with /etc/X11/xorg.conf
if i use 16 bit or 32 bit, the monitor shows incorrectly
and i have to press power button to shutdown

I attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log

(now I go to sleep. (I will replay later, Thanks!))


Xorg.0.log
Description: Binary data


Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:54:45 -0400, Long Wind wrote:

 i have just installed Debian 6
 it has problem with my video card
 i have to set to 15 bit with /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i use 16 bit or 32
 bit, the monitor shows incorrectly and i have to press power button to
 shutdown

Please, attach/upload your /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration file.

 I attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
 (now I go to sleep. (I will replay later, Thanks!))

Thanks, I put here what I find relevant (in no special order):

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:5446:1002:0008 ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro 
Ultra TF rev 0, Mem @ 0xd800/67108864, 0xdfdfc000/16384, I/O @ 
0xa800/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072

Okay, that's your VGA. Quite old, right? :-)

(WW) R128(0): Can't determine panel dimensions, and none specified.
Disabling programming of FP registers.
(WW) R128(0): Direct rendering disabled

(EE) R128(0): No DFP detected
(EE) R128(0): [dri] R128DRIScreenInit failed (depth 15 not supported).  
[dri] Disabling DRI.

Those warnings and errors could be becasue of bad/wrong settings in the 
xorg.conf file. What I would do is:

1/ Rename your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig 
and let Xorg to make an educated guess on your VGA.

2/ If the above does not work, you can try to reconfigure Xorg again 
(dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg).

Before doing anything, be sure to have a copy of the current working /
etc/X11/xorg.conf file and put it in a safe place, just in case.

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Long Wind
Thank Camaleón!

I add xorg.conf to /etc/X11/
when I find X doesn't work.

Anyway I attach it.


xorg.conf
Description: Binary data


Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Long Wind
Thank Camaleón!

I install debian 6 and find X doesn't work,
so I add xorg.conf to /etc/X11/

Anyway I attach it.


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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:19:42 -0400, Long Wind wrote:

 Thank Camaleón!
 
 I add xorg.conf to /etc/X11/
 when I find X doesn't work.

You added what to where? 

Sorry, I can't understand that phrase :-?
 
 Anyway I attach it.

Xorg seems to be happier in Lenny so maybe something have changed in 
between that makes it now to fail. 

Okay, so you can start with the simplest of the steps and proceed with 
the first option I suggested (rename the current xorg.conf and restart 
the computer to let the X server automatically detects the card's 
capabilities) and then tell us how it goes.

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Long Wind
I have some important finding
I attach the X log when it doesn't work
the last 4 lines in the log seem to repeat forever:

(EE) R128(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine...
(EE) R128(0): R128CCEWaitForIdle: CCE stop -9
(EE) R128(0): R128CCEWaitForIdle: CCE start -9
(EE) R128(0): R128CCEWaitForIdle: CCE idle -9

When I shutdown by pressing power button
and restart my PC, I find the log file is about 70 M !

Where are experts? Please Help! Thanks!


Xorg.0.log
Description: Binary data


Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Long Wind
On 5/4/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:19:42 -0400, Long Wind wrote:


 Xorg seems to be happier in Lenny so maybe something have changed in
 between that makes it now to fail.

 Okay, so you can start with the simplest of the steps and proceed with
 the first option I suggested (rename the current xorg.conf and restart
 the computer to let the X server automatically detects the card's
 capabilities) and then tell us how it goes.

 Greetings,

 --
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I install debian 6 and find X doesn't work,
so I add the xorg.conf file to the /etc/X11 directory.
the xorg.conf maybe from lenny (my memory is poor)


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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:54:45 -0400, Long wrote in message 
CAB-gxZBmx_yvYZGZBjHMJZe1rV9MPDUg11z=0uc0xvyhuhz...@mail.gmail.com:

 i have just installed Debian 6
 it has problem with my video card
 i have to set to 15 bit with /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 if i use 16 bit or 32 bit,

..chk'ed your logs, your ATI Rage 128 Pro should work 
best with 24bit colors, these _are_ 24bit cards.  

..a few years back, before I got my first Radeon, I pushed an 8MB 
mach64 card to well past 1600x1200 to its maximum resolution, but 
I believe it was less than 2048x1536x24bpp@43Hz.  
My Radeons all run at 2048x1536x32bpp@what ever the crt can handle, 
with one exception, the laptop I use to write this message, 
1920x1200x32bpp@60Hz.

  the monitor shows incorrectly

..smeared psychedelics, or just darkness?  

 and i have to press power button to shutdown

.._much_ easier to ssh into the machine from 
another machine on your lan.

 
 I attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
 (now I go to sleep. (I will replay later, Thanks!))


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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:29:02 -0400, Long Wind wrote:

 On 5/4/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:19:42 -0400, Long Wind wrote:


 Xorg seems to be happier in Lenny so maybe something have changed in
 between that makes it now to fail.

 Okay, so you can start with the simplest of the steps and proceed with
 the first option I suggested (rename the current xorg.conf and
 restart the computer to let the X server automatically detects the
 card's capabilities) and then tell us how it goes.

 I install debian 6 and find X doesn't work, 

Better if you provide the X log for this error or tell us more about what 
does not work, what are you seeing in the screen, what error.. 
something :-)

Remember that if X is not available or crashes you usually can still jump 
to a console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and work from there. An X server is just 
another non-vital piece of the whole puzzle that is your system.

 so I add the xorg.conf file to the /etc/X11 directory. the xorg.conf
 maybe from lenny (my memory is poor)

The X settings that once worked for Lenny can fail in Squeeze. You better 
reconfigure the xorg server to generate a good xorg.conf file.

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-04 Thread Long Wind
it seems that experts are few
I find vesa driver can work
anyway it's linux
sometime i put up with this and that
sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own
expert help isn't always freely available.

I'll leave the list
Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com


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