Re: quick alpine config question?
On Sat 25 Nov 2023 at 13:35:05 (-0500), Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi folks, > floating back on screen with the latest and a question. > My knight of mailbox creation has done a fine job so far. > The issue is, I am being asked to provide my password for every task, > even after doing so and logging into the imap setup the first time. > Is there a line anywhere that has a timeout for this anywhere that can > be adjusted? > Or something else covering how long alpine decides you are good to go > where imap is concerned? > for the record, he is using Ubuntu 22 plus, with Alpine being 2.5 plus > I believe. The symptom you describe might suggest that disable-password-caching is set somewhere. To save a password, you type N (for new-password) and it gets stored in .pine-passfile in an obfuscated form. You should chmod go= that file as otherwise it is completely unprotected from revealing your password to anyone reading it.. When you try that, you'll find out (a) whether the ubuntu version allows this to be done, and (b) whether that's the correct filename. There are other nasties like: nowrite_password_cache, disable-password-file-saving and disable-password-cmd, but I don't know the details. It looks as though there's a lot of help information in the binary (assuming it's compiled in). Cheers, David.
Re: quick alpine config question?
Hi folks, floating back on screen with the latest and a question. My knight of mailbox creation has done a fine job so far. The issue is, I am being asked to provide my password for every task, even after doing so and logging into the imap setup the first time. Is there a line anywhere that has a timeout for this anywhere that can be adjusted? Or something else covering how long alpine decides you are good to go where imap is concerned? for the record, he is using Ubuntu 22 plus, with Alpine being 2.5 plus I believe. Thanks, Kare
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Sat 25 Nov 2023 at 11:46:39 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > OK. This is weird! Something is joining those two lines. Your post's headers contained the following line: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII ↑ A fix is to diff > output-file and attach the output file. > I've tried removing the trailing space on the original commented > separator = Trailing spaces are significant to format=flowed. Cheers, David.
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, Tixy wrote: On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 13:49 +, Tixy wrote: On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 11:46 +, Tim Woodall wrote: OK. This is weird! Something is joining those two lines. Not at this end it isn't. For me, all 3 of your diffs look the same on screen and are binary the same apart from the space you deleted in the third one. Perhaps your MUA is treating it as being in quoted-printable encoding? I've just looked at the message on the web archive [1] and see that shows the lines joined before you removed the space after the '=', perhaps that's what you were looking at? [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00898.html I wasn't looking at that but yes, that's exactly what I was seeing. When I view them in alpine, both the versions in sent-mail and the versions in debian-user look like that, with the lines joined. If I "postpone" the message and then continue editing the lines do not get merged (I tested this while composing the previous messages) After your email (thanks) I went and checked the Maildir. All the messages are correct with the linebreak - so they've gone out from alpine, thirough various mailservers to debian-user and then back through more to my Maildir and nothing has corrupted them. Interestingly, and I didn't think to try this before because my emails are plain text, hitting `H' (full header mode) does display the message correctly with the linebreak. My guess is that it's an unfortunate interaction of using vim as my editor, alpine setting format=flowed and that diff having a trailing space. I think, therefore, alpine (and the webserver you linked to) are correctly reflowing these two lines. At some point I need to see if there's a way to get alpine (or vim) to warn about this situation or maybe a different header would be more appropriate as I do not have :set fo+=w so I do not normally have trailing spaces (and vim does highlight them for me so I knew it was there but I left it in deliberately. Now I know about this I can avoid it - but a better header would seem to be appropriate given that I do not use this feature. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16282728/how-do-i-compose-format-flowed-emails-that-include-hanging-indents-with-vim Tim.
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 13:49 +, Tixy wrote: > On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 11:46 +, Tim Woodall wrote: > > OK. This is weird! Something is joining those two lines. > > Not at this end it isn't. For me, all 3 of your diffs look the same on > screen and are binary the same apart from the space you deleted in the > third one. > > Perhaps your MUA is treating it as being in quoted-printable encoding? I've just looked at the message on the web archive [1] and see that shows the lines joined before you removed the space after the '=', perhaps that's what you were looking at? [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00898.html -- Tixy
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 11:46 +, Tim Woodall wrote: > OK. This is weird! Something is joining those two lines. Not at this end it isn't. For me, all 3 of your diffs look the same on screen and are binary the same apart from the space you deleted in the third one. Perhaps your MUA is treating it as being in quoted-printable encoding? Though looking at the RFC for that, it looks like deleting the trailing space should have caused the problem (by turning it into a soft line break) not fixed it. So it's perhaps some other quirk. -- Tixy
Re: quick alpine config question?
OK. This is weird! Something is joining those two lines.
diff --git a/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf b/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
index b47235f..5b20997 100644
--- a/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
+++ b/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
@@ -27,7 +27,8 @@
#
#
#
-mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
+#mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
+mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:INBOX=~/Maildir/INBOX:LAYOUT=fs
# If you need to set multiple mailbox locations or want to change default
# namespace settings, you can do it by defining namespace sections.
@@ -47,6 +48,7 @@ namespace inbox {
# namespaces or some clients get confused. '/' is usually a good one.
# The default however depends on the underlying mail storage format.
#separator =
+ separator = /
# Prefix required to access this namespace. This needs to be different for
# all namespaces. For example "Public/".
I've tried removing the trailing space on the original commented
separator =
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
We have a member of the greater Toronto Linux Users group, who rather
enjoys setting up email accounts,hosting allot of them personally.
He is new to alpine though, our test of roundcube was almost, but not
quite successful due to sloppy JavaScript coding on the send button.
where he is stuck at the moment is how to get alpine to display imap
things like the sent mail folder int he folders list.
Dreamhost is having the same problem with some of our new office email
accounts.
is there a specific imap server config file, or a choice from the main
settings s, config c options?
Also, what about the imap aspect of certificates? I recall there is a new
way to create the aph thing google requires.
Thanks for ideas.
Kare
Are you using mbox or Maildir? And is inbox in /home or /var/spool/mail?
I have this working with dovecot. Maildir with INBOX in /home.
I'll look up the config but it will probably be Saturday. I vaguely
recall having ti tweak something in the dovecot configs.
Tim.
These are the two changes I made to /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
Sorry, don't know what happened there: I must have accidentally deleted the
extra line!
diff --git a/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf b/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
index b47235f..5b20997 100644
--- a/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
+++ b/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
@@ -27,7 +27,8 @@
#
#
#
-mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
+#mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
+mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:INBOX=~/Maildir/INBOX:LAYOUT=fs
# If you need to set multiple mailbox locations or want to change default
# namespace settings, you can do it by defining namespace sections.
@@ -47,6 +48,7 @@ namespace inbox {
# namespaces or some clients get confused. '/' is usually a good one.
# The default however depends on the underlying mail storage format.
#separator =
+ separator = /
# Prefix required to access this namespace. This needs to be different for
# all namespaces. For example "Public/".
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
We have a member of the greater Toronto Linux Users group, who rather
enjoys setting up email accounts,hosting allot of them personally.
He is new to alpine though, our test of roundcube was almost, but not quite
successful due to sloppy JavaScript coding on the send button.
where he is stuck at the moment is how to get alpine to display imap things
like the sent mail folder int he folders list.
Dreamhost is having the same problem with some of our new office email
accounts.
is there a specific imap server config file, or a choice from the main
settings s, config c options?
Also, what about the imap aspect of certificates? I recall there is a new
way to create the aph thing google requires.
Thanks for ideas.
Kare
Are you using mbox or Maildir? And is inbox in /home or /var/spool/mail?
I have this working with dovecot. Maildir with INBOX in /home.
I'll look up the config but it will probably be Saturday. I vaguely
recall having ti tweak something in the dovecot configs.
Tim.
These are the two changes I made to /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
diff --git a/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf b/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
index b47235f..5b20997 100644
--- a/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
+++ b/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
@@ -27,7 +27,8 @@
#
#
#
-mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
+#mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
+mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:INBOX=~/Maildir/INBOX:LAYOUT=fs
# If you need to set multiple mailbox locations or want to change default
# namespace settings, you can do it by defining namespace sections.
@@ -47,6 +48,7 @@ namespace inbox {
# namespaces or some clients get confused. '/' is usually a good one.
# The default however depends on the underlying mail storage format.
#separator =
+ separator = /
# Prefix required to access this namespace. This needs to be different for
# all namespaces. For example "Public/".
Re: quick alpine config question?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, We have a member of the greater Toronto Linux Users group, who rather enjoys setting up email accounts,hosting allot of them personally. He is new to alpine though, our test of roundcube was almost, but not quite successful due to sloppy JavaScript coding on the send button. where he is stuck at the moment is how to get alpine to display imap things like the sent mail folder int he folders list. Dreamhost is having the same problem with some of our new office email accounts. is there a specific imap server config file, or a choice from the main settings s, config c options? Also, what about the imap aspect of certificates? I recall there is a new way to create the aph thing google requires. Thanks for ideas. Kare Are you using mbox or Maildir? And is inbox in /home or /var/spool/mail? I have this working with dovecot. Maildir with INBOX in /home. I'll look up the config but it will probably be Saturday. I vaguely recall having ti tweak something in the dovecot configs. Tim.
quick alpine config question?
Hi folks, We have a member of the greater Toronto Linux Users group, who rather enjoys setting up email accounts,hosting allot of them personally. He is new to alpine though, our test of roundcube was almost, but not quite successful due to sloppy JavaScript coding on the send button. where he is stuck at the moment is how to get alpine to display imap things like the sent mail folder int he folders list. Dreamhost is having the same problem with some of our new office email accounts. is there a specific imap server config file, or a choice from the main settings s, config c options? Also, what about the imap aspect of certificates? I recall there is a new way to create the aph thing google requires. Thanks for ideas. Kare
