Re: sgml or latex?
Odd, that's the second message in a `Chinese' character set that was in English (and therefore went into the deleted folder). Is gb2312 used for anything else than Chinese? (any _non_ English?). Keep in mind the message was sent by a French national. Cameron Kerr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~cameronk/
Re: sgml or latex?
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 07:37, Cameron Kerr wrote: Odd, that's the second message in a `Chinese' character set that was in English (and therefore went into the deleted folder). Is gb2312 used for anything else than Chinese? (any _non_ English?). Keep in mind the message was sent by a French national. Cameron Kerr funny... I guess Kmail's a bit strange sometimes ! for the last few msg I sent it was actually gb2312-encoded... I didn't do anything for that ! should be corrected now... switched from Automatic param to 8859-15... Regards, Isabelle HURBAIN
sgml or latex?
hi, Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the future? Thanks! linuxman=Linux is all my life
Re: sgml or latex?
As you might have noticed a lot of people are moving to XML. I don't know much about technological superiority of the diffrent options but XML has a lot of momentum. This means that xml has lots of tools ,libraries, books, knowledgeble users on usenet etc. I think that both DocBook and Linuxdoc have xml versions. I've heard that people writing about math still prefer tex. On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 15:00, linuxman wrote: hi, Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the future? Thanks! linuxman = Linux is all my life
Re: sgml or latex?
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 15:00, linuxman wrote: hi, Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the future? Thanks! linuxman = Linux is all my life LDP (www.linuxdoc.org) project is using DocBook, which is (if I do not make mistake) a DTD for SGML. Maybe you should look at this : http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/LDP-Author-Guide/index.html Regards Isabelle Hurbain
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* linuxman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: hi, Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the future? A psychic? If current trends are anything to go by, in the future they'll be using some kind of eXtended Meta-General Meta-Markup Meta-Object Meta-Modelling Meta-Language with 99.9% space taken by markup and remaining .1% -- by marketing bullshit^W^Wcontent. SGML is a general markup language, TeX is for typesetting (printed output). Dima -- I have not been able to think of any way of describing Perl to [person] Hello, blind man? This is color. -- DPM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html (Please post in plain text only, no need to send HTML mail...) Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the future? LaTeX has the advantage of being extremely standardized and widely available. It's also fairly extensible, though this may or may not be a good thing. There are several books out there on LaTeX, and lots of readily available online documentation (try texdoc(1), for example). It's a little more oriented towards writing things like mathematical papers than computer documentation, but it's also very well suited for longer things like books or theses. There are zillions of LaTeX extension packages, so it's possible to put figures into documents using only LaTeX commands, or embed PostScript files, or create a two-column paper, and so on. There's also the advantage that pretty much anyone with a suitably modern system can process the LaTeX source and get a similar-to-identical output file. In contrast, my impression is that SGML/XML tools are still very much evolving; if you're using, say, DocBook, the O'Reilly book is the only printed documentation, and it covers DocBook 3.x, which has some noticable differences from DocBook 4.x (and doesn't cover any of the newer XML extensions). It's harder (at least right now) to make a document look the way you want to; if you're using SGML, you need to find the DSSSL documentation, and drudge through it, and refresh your Scheme. XML formatting uses something called XSL, which is a stylesheet language based on XML. IMHO XML is a little klunky syntax-wise to actually write by hand. The XML tools in Debian are also not-quite-there. The standard thing to do seems to be to apply an XSL style sheet to an XML file (via xsltproc) to produce a flow object file, but then it's hard to turn that file into something printable (the only tool seems to be fop, which is a Java program, which Debian doesn't support well, and the current version in unstable doesn't work). I think for now I'd recommend documenting in LaTeX; the tools are more there, and it's easier to find a guru if you need one. (My corner of MIT has two SGML people; I don't know whether I'd consider the other one a guru, but I'm not one. There are lots of LaTeX people, several of whom could be considered TeXperts.) Conceptually, I do like DocBook, but I'd wait for the tools to mature a bit more before actually writing anything serious using it. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Re: sgml or latex?
also worth noting is the LaTeX word processor called LyX, which also supports DocBook export and several generic tex styles it can produce pdf and if you export to docbook sgml you can still use those tools too lyx is still a little unstable in woody, if you open the user manual as anyone other than root it crashes, but seems fairly stable otherwise, also, though i havent submitted the report yet, you have to set up symlinks to get the spell checker to work, and modify some permissions on symlink / folder to get the pdf export to work - i have a feeling the developers test as root, hopefully these minor problems dont affect you dd
sgml and latex
Hi, I have a computer software manual written in sgml using Docbook. Now, in one of my latex documents, I would like to include this sgml manual as an appendix of my latex document. But I don't know how to do it. I can only convert sgml to jadetex, but not latex, so I cannot just use latex's \include. Any ideas? Regards, Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
