Smartlist vacation, lists gateways
Hi there. Just came back from vacation to find 500 (and counting) debian-user messages on my mailbox. No big deal, I'll just wipe out everything with debian-user as destination. :-P But in shake of netecology and lazyness, I would like to find out how to put my subscription on vacation, which is what I always prefer for high volume lists anyway, since I prefer to Google Group such lists. I had a quick try to find out how to do it in a Smartlist before vacation, but my only results were: Smartlist uses X-Commands (simple additions to the mail headers I supose) to interact with the list-request script, it needs an addon to support suspend (vacation), and there's another for parsing commands in-message-body. 1. A quick test (help \n suspend \n end to debian-user-request) produced no feedback, so I take in-body commands aren't enabled. Is suspend, and what's the X-command to set it? 2. Actually, I would prefer not to be subscribed at all, since I read the list as news anyway. But I know all my messages to debian-user went to /dev/null or equivalent without any error/moderation warning back, until I subscribed my e-mail account. Is registration really required, or is there a bug on the road? And for extra points: 3. The only backside of Google Groups, is that I can't post directly from there. What other news (or any other service that eases the lurking of such copious information) gateways do you use? (specially bidirectional ones). I seem to recall Gmane used to be able to send to debian-user. Best regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smartlist amb un domini virtual de Postfix
Rotllo previ ací i novetats avall del tot. No vull fer top posting :) Pepe wrote: Pepe wrote: Hola, gent! Tinc Postfix funcionant correctament amb un domini local, el de la meua adreça de correu, i un parell de dominis virtuals. Els dominis virtuals estan definits en una base de dades MySQL. Tot això funciona. Per si a algú l'interesa, ho vaig fer seguit este tutorial: http://www.workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge El problema m'ha vingut a l'intentar donar d'alta unes llistes de correu per als dominis virtuals. Al crear la llista amb createlist, el programa et dóna dues línies que has de posar al teu /etc/aliases. Exemple: cfrb: |/var/list/.bin/flist cfrb cfrb-request: |/var/list/.bin/flist cfrb-request Si ho pose així, s'entén que les adreces són [EMAIL PROTECTED] i [EMAIL PROTECTED], que *no* és el que jo vull, posat que elcorreu.net és domini local, i la llista ha de ser d'un dels virtuals. Si en lloc de cfrb pose [EMAIL PROTECTED], newaliases es queixa dient que s'han de posar només noms (sense el @...), no noms i dominis (amb el @...). Si me'n vaig a la taula de forwardings (alias per als dominis virtuals) que tinc posada en la BD de correu de MySQL, tampoc funciona. La millor aproximació a la solució que he aconseguit és afegir registres de l'estil d'este: Camp source:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Camp destination: |/var/list/.bin/flist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aleshores la petada ve perquè |/var/list/.bin/flist no és un usuari de correu del meu domini local. Vaja! Conclusió: la típica línia que es posa en /etc/aliases no servix per a la meua instal·lació de dominis virtuals, perquè Postfix interpreta la segona columna com dues adreces independents, no com una tuberia cap a un programa del sistema. Mentre investigue més, a veure si algú em pot aconsellar: - Em funcionaria si utilitzara algun altre format d'enmagatzemament que no fós MySQL? - No es pot donar d'alta una llista de correu per a un domini virtual??? No m'ho puc creure. - Es tracta d'alguna limitació estranya d'Smartlist? - Es tracta d'alguna limitació estranya de Postfix? Moltes gràcies d'avantmà!! De res, de res :-) He trobat una possible solució ací: http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/~casterln/smartlist-arc/msg00881.html Encara que sempble pressumptuós, jo ja ho havia pensat. El que passa és que em quedava l'esperança de que hi haguera un mètode més net... Vaig a provar-ho. Salutacions a la llista, Wop! Salutacions. Recupere este tema ara que puc. Òbviament no funciona, o és que estic influenciat per la mala marxa del ValènciaCF, no ho sé. Ací[1] es diu que l'única manera de muntar una llista de correu amb un domini virtual és a) Crear un alias en la taula d'aliasos per als dominis virtuals que tinga en el LHS[2] l'adreça de la llista i en el RHS[3] una adreça d'/etc/aliases. b) En /etc/aliases afegir una línia d'este tipus: aliasfetaposta: |/var/list/.bin/flist cfrb [1] http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2001-06/1308.html [2] Left Hand Side. [3] Right Hand Side. Això també ho deia l'enllaç de la resposta que em vaig fer a mi mateix. Què és el que no funciona? Ací ve el rotllo. Doncs que algú es torna boig pel camí. Si envie el típic subscribe a [EMAIL PROTECTED], el remitent del CONFIRM és [EMAIL PROTECTED] El mecanisme de subscripció i desubscripció funciona perfectament tant si la gestió es fa utilitzant el domini local com el virtual. Una volta passat el tràmit, u pot escriure a la llista amb l'adreça del domini virtual. El pitjor és que els correus de la llista sempre apareixen com provinents de [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-( Tot això és molt lleig. Sabeu si existeix cap manera millor de gestionar una llista de correu amb un domini virtual??? Gràcies mil, -- José Marcos Chalmés García pepe AT elcorreu DOT net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smartlist amb un domini virtual de Postfix
Hola, gent! Tinc Postfix funcionant correctament amb un domini local, el de la meua adreça de correu, i un parell de dominis virtuals. Els dominis virtuals estan definits en una base de dades MySQL. Tot això funciona. Per si a algú l'interesa, ho vaig fer seguit este tutorial: http://www.workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge El problema m'ha vingut a l'intentar donar d'alta unes llistes de correu per als dominis virtuals. Al crear la llista amb createlist, el programa et dóna dues línies que has de posar al teu /etc/aliases. Exemple: cfrb: |/var/list/.bin/flist cfrb cfrb-request: |/var/list/.bin/flist cfrb-request Si ho pose així, s'entén que les adreces són [EMAIL PROTECTED] i [EMAIL PROTECTED], que *no* és el que jo vull, posat que elcorreu.net és domini local, i la llista ha de ser d'un dels virtuals. Si en lloc de cfrb pose [EMAIL PROTECTED], newaliases es queixa dient que s'han de posar només noms (sense el @...), no noms i dominis (amb el @...). Si me'n vaig a la taula de forwardings (alias per als dominis virtuals) que tinc posada en la BD de correu de MySQL, tampoc funciona. La millor aproximació a la solució que he aconseguit és afegir registres de l'estil d'este: Camp source:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Camp destination: |/var/list/.bin/flist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aleshores la petada ve perquè |/var/list/.bin/flist no és un usuari de correu del meu domini local. Vaja! Conclusió: la típica línia que es posa en /etc/aliases no servix per a la meua instal·lació de dominis virtuals, perquè Postfix interpreta la segona columna com dues adreces independents, no com una tuberia cap a un programa del sistema. Mentre investigue més, a veure si algú em pot aconsellar: - Em funcionaria si utilitzara algun altre format d'enmagatzemament que no fós MySQL? - No es pot donar d'alta una llista de correu per a un domini virtual??? No m'ho puc creure. - Es tracta d'alguna limitació estranya d'Smartlist? - Es tracta d'alguna limitació estranya de Postfix? Moltes gràcies d'avantmà!! -- José Marcos Chalmés García pepe AT elcorreu DOT net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
trouble with Smartlist
Hi there list, I am having a permissions problem with smart list. In the list user I am unable to use the .bin stuff and also he .etc permission I think is off too. Does anyone know what the permissions aresupposed to be for /var/list/.bin and /var/list/.etc? Thanks much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lösung (was: Exim und smartlist)
Thomas Korber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ich möchte eine Mailingliste mit exim und smartlist einrichten. [...] seminar: |/var/list/.bin/flist seminar seminar-request: |/var/list/.bin/flist seminar-request [...] - /etc/fetchmailrc entsprechend angepasst: poll mail.provider.de protocol pop3 user seminar%korber.org password geheim is list poll mail.provider.de protocol pop3 user seminar-request%korber.org password geheim is list Wald, Bäume und so. fetchmail muss natürlich nicht an list, sondern an seminar bzw. seminar-request ausliefern. -- Grüße, | http://www.korber.org +++ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas |Linux User Group Ingolstadt: http://www.lug-in.de PGP-ID: 0x4603A0E3 | A4B3 BA2A DDC8 B771 8084 CD4D BE14 5C3E 4603 A0E3 -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Exim und smartlist
Hallo! Endlich Ferien, endlich Zeit zum Basteln. ;-) Ich möchte eine Mailingliste mit exim und smartlist einrichten. Nach der Lektüre von http://www.world-email.cx, file:///usr/share/doc/smartlist/QuickStart, file:///usr/share/doc/smartlist/README.exim und file:///usr/share/doc/smartlist/Manual.gz habe ich folgende Änderungen an meiner ganz normalen exim-Konfiguration (Option 2 von eximconfig) folgende Änderungen vorgenommen: - user = list auskommentiert - always_bcc = yes hinzugefügt - den user list als trusted_user hinzugefügt - die Mailingliste seminar mittels $ cd /var/list/; ./bin/createlist seminar hinzugefügt - in /etc/aliases folgendes hinzugefügt: listman: thomas seminar: |/var/list/.bin/flist seminar seminar-request: |/var/list/.bin/flist seminar-request - die Accounts [EMAIL PROTECTED] und [EMAIL PROTECTED] bei meinem Provider angelegt - /etc/fetchmailrc entsprechend angepasst: poll mail.provider.de protocol pop3 user seminar%korber.org password geheim is list poll mail.provider.de protocol pop3 user seminar-request%korber.org password geheim is list Mit meiner E-Mail-Adresse funktioniert das ganze lokal auch: ,[ aus /var/log/exim/mainlog ] | 2003-08-02 19:20:26 19j03O-0004RY-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=thomas P=local S=1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2003-08-02 19:20:27 19j03P-0004S5-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=list P=local S=2734 | 2003-08-02 19:20:27 19j03O-0004RY-00 = |/var/list/.bin/flist seminar-request [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=system_aliases T=address_pipe ` Wenn ich allerdings versuche, per Browser meine GMX-Adresse anzumelden, passiert folgendes: ,[ aus /var/log/exim/mainlog ] | 2003-08-02 20:07:08 19j0ma-0005Cr-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost [127.0.0.1] | P=esmtp S=1344 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2003-08-02 20:07:08 19j0ma-0005D3-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=list P=local S=1635 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2003-08-02 20:07:08 19j0ma-0005Cr-00 = list [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=procmail T=procmail_pipe | 2003-08-02 20:07:08 19j0ma-0005Cr-00 Completed | 2003-08-02 20:07:17 19j0ma-0005D3-00 = thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=procmail T=procmail_pipe | 2003-08-02 20:07:17 19j0ma-0005D3-00 Completed ` Ich frage mich, wo seminar in Zeile 2 des logfile-Auszugs abgeblieben ist. Die Mail landet logischerweise in meiner eigenen Inbox. Hier der Auszug aus dem Header: , | From: Thomas Korber [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: subscribe | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Delivery-date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:07:08 +0200 | Old-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:05:03 +0200 (MEST) | X-Authenticated-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Authenticated-IP: [80.132.117.65] | X-Flags: 0001 | X-Diagnostic: Non-existent mailinglist ` Die Mailingliste existiert aber unter /var/list, lokal funktioniert sie wie gesagt auch. Wo ist der Haken an der Sache? Für Hinweise wäre ich dankbar. -- Grüße, | http://www.korber.org +++ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas |Linux User Group Ingolstadt: http://www.lug-in.de PGP-ID: 0x4603A0E3 | A4B3 BA2A DDC8 B771 8084 CD4D BE14 5C3E 4603 A0E3 -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
smartlist equiv of wwsympa?
Is there something that allows users to read and post to a single mailing list ala wwsympa to sympa, but for smartlist instead? -- Baloo
Smartlist Help
Hopefully someone out there uses Smartlist for mail list stuff :) I'm having a problem getting my Smartlist to read my accept file in /var/list/customers. I had uncommented the foreign_submit option in rc.custom, and it still doesn't work for some reason. Here's a log from my mail.info file, if that helps at all. Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28955]: MAA28955: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=530, class=0, pri=30530, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, relay=red.jdweb.com [204.186.230.241] Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28956]: MAA28955: to=|/var/list/.bin/flist customers, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Sent Jan 3 12:04:56 white procmail[28958]: Error while writing to log Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28965]: NOQUEUE: Authentication-Warning: white.jdweb.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/listq Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28965]: MAA28965: Authentication-Warning: white.jdweb.com: list set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28965]: MAA28965: [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=596, class=-30, pri=114596, nrcpts=2, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28965]: MAA28965: [EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=queued Jan 3 12:04:56 white sendmail[28965]: MAA28965: [EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=queued The accept list contains nfurman, but not nickfilter, where the mail is coming from. The dist list contains nfurman and nnn, and the mail does reach it's destination. Any ideas? Please CC me on the reply. Thanks in advance, Nick
Re: second try: exim/smartlist
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:54:09AM -0500, Justin Maurer wrote: ... can anyone tell me how to have exim not add a resent-to header on each of smartlist's messages? i don't want people on the list to be able to see who is on the list. I don't know what your setup is, but if it's possible to have all smartlist posts go through a specific exim router/director then you can use the router/director option headers_remove to weed-out such headers. Not sure whether they will be added later on anyway, just give it a try. -- groetjes, carel
second try: exim/smartlist
hey guys, can anyone tell me how to have exim not add a resent-to header on each of smartlist's messages? i don't want people on the list to be able to see who is on the list. thanks, justin
smartlist exim problem
hey guys, i have this tiny problem where exim (presumably) is stamping on a Resent-To: header with the names of everyone on one of my smartlist-based mailing lists. i searched on the web and found more people with this problem, but not m^Hany with the solution. if anyone knows how to disable this feature, please let me know. thanks, justin
smartlist problem...!!
hi all I'm using the smartlist for mail service. But I found a one problem.The story is below. 1.I send a mail.( -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]) use root privilege.(in fact root) 2.and then mail is vanish. 3.I'm not root the mail is not strange.Why ? -- YoonSuk Cho [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key fingerprint C37A 57CF BBBF 7F01 E4E4 92D5 B4C2 2245 A4C9 E7EF /./. oOoOo Funny..Geek Code oOoOo Version: 3.12 oOoOo oOoOo GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL+++ P+ L+++ E- W++ N++ o+ K- w-- oOoOo oOoOo O- M V- PS+ PE Y-- PGP++ t 5 X- R tv- b+ DI--- D- oOoOo oOoOo G++ e++ h* r !y+ oOoOo
Re: smartlist problem...!!
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 03:54:41AM +0900, YoonSuk Cho[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all I'm using the smartlist for mail service. But I found a one problem.The story is below. 1.I send a mail.( -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]) use root privilege.(in fact root) 2.and then mail is vanish. 3.I'm not root the mail is not strange.Why ? Smartlist doesn't like mail from root and treats it as being from a daemon to keep mail loops from mailbombing your mailing list. See the 'FROM_DAEMON' macro in 'man procmailrc'. -- CueCat decoder .signature by Larry Wall: #!/usr/bin/perl -n printf Serial: %s Type: %s Code: %s\n, map { tr/a-zA-Z0-9+-/ -_/; $_ = unpack 'u', chr(32 + length()*3/4) . $_; s/\0+$//; $_ ^= C x length; } /\.([^.]+)/g;
Re: SmartList: problem subscribing
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Wade Parker wrote: I'm using Debian 2.2, Exim 3.1, procmail 3.13.1 and SmartList. I've installed Smartlist using dselect. I can create a list. But I cannot get anyone subscribed to the list or if I add an address manually, Smartlist will not send out any messages to that person. There is a line in /etc/exim.conf saying: # user = list # Uncomment the above line if you are running smartlist Have you already done this?
Re: SmartList: problem subscribing
Yes, I uncommmented the user = list line. I even tried adding group = list. Nothing seems to work. I've been working under the assumption that the problem involves file permissions, ownership, or the piping statement in /etc/aliases. flist and the procmail link are owned by root:list. flist is set to execute suid. /usr/bin/procmail is owned by root:mail I have also added /var/list/.bin to PATH for root and in /etc/profile. I've tried having flist and the procmail link owned by list:list. But that did not work. I've experimented with piping statements of | /bin/bash exec /var/list/.bin/flist listname and | exec /var/list/.bin/flist listname. With the first piping statement I received a message from mail daemon: exec: exec: No such file or directory , and with the latter piping statement I received 'exec command not found for address_pipe transport'. Each time I finish a line of investigation, I remove the SmartList package and reinstall from the .deb file, so that the package is reset to its default configuration and I am not compounding the problem with my experimentations. I would appreciate any further suggestions. Wade Parker
SmartList: problem subscribing
I'm using Debian 2.2, Exim 3.1, procmail 3.13.1 and SmartList. I've installed Smartlist using dselect. I can create a list. But I cannot get anyone subscribed to the list or if I add an address manually, Smartlist will not send out any messages to that person. The only changes I've made to the configuration were: Adding to my /etc/aliases listname: | /var/list/.bin/flist listname listname: | /var/list/.bin/flist listname-request and setting in /var/list/.etc/rc.init LOGABSTRACT = yes VERBOSE = yes LOGFILE = ../$default/log When I test with exim -v -bt listname exim indicates the address is deliverable to the pipe program. When I send in a subscription, exim's log indicates the message was delivered to the pipe program. But there is not entry in /var/list/listname/dist and there is no log. I've also tried changing the pipe alias with: |/bin/bash exec /var/list/.bin/flist listname the mail-daemon returns the message stating: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: listname[EMAIL PROTECTED]: generated |/bin/bash exec /var/list/.bin/flist listname: Child process of address_pipe transport returned 127 from command: /bin/bash The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: -- |/bin/bash exec /var/list/.bin/flist listname -- exec: exec: No such file or directory I would appreciate any advise or suggests on how to fix this problem or how to test flist. Wade Parker
Re: Using verp with Debian's smartlist package
On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 11:40:35PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: On Aug 07 2000, Shane Wegner wrote: Has anyone successfully gotten this to work? Must you use sendmail? Would you be willing to use qmail? If so, then qmail supports VERPs outta the box with its fast mailing list manager, ezmlm (and its add-on, ezmlm-idx). I'd recommend using them for both kick some major arse! :-) Well unless I am getting some significant features, I'd rather not learn a whole new mail system. I use some sendmail features which other mailers may not have such as login authentication for relaying and TLS encrypted sessions. These are even new for sendmail. Besides, can't it support VERP using the username+data construct anyway? Shane -- Shane Wegner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/
qmail (was: Re: Using verp with Debian's smartlist package)
On Aug 08 2000, Shane Wegner wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 11:40:35PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: On Aug 07 2000, Shane Wegner wrote: Has anyone successfully gotten this to work? Must you use sendmail? Would you be willing to use qmail? If so, then qmail supports VERPs outta the box with its fast mailing list manager, ezmlm (and its add-on, ezmlm-idx). I'd recommend using them for both kick some major arse! :-) Well unless I am getting some significant features, I'd rather not learn a whole new mail system. I use some sendmail features which other mailers may not have such as login authentication for relaying and TLS encrypted sessions. These are even new for sendmail. Besides, can't it support VERP using the username+data construct anyway? observation I'm having some health problems and I can't see what I'm typing very well. So, please excuse any typos that I make... :-( /observation Well, what exactly do you need TLS for? For SMTP or for POP or for both? Anyway, I can't see any problems with your needs and qmail (e.g., authentication before relaying). They are reasonably simple to implement and I guess that if you already installed sendmail, that you won't have problems experimenting qmail. You might even setup a guinea pig box to see how it feels... Let me give you a pointer: go to www.qmail.org and search the (huge) page for the strings you're looking for. And for TLS, I'd recommend using sslwrap or stunnel. I assume that you already have a certificate generated for your connections. A visit to http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html will also be useful, I think. I hope this helps. Great site you have, BTW. :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/nectar/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Using verp with Debian's smartlist package
Hi all, A while ago, the Debian mailing lists at lists.debian.org went to using a different 'From ' line. The administrator said at the time that a VERP was being used. I am curious as to how a VERP can be implemented using smartlist with SendMail. It would have to use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] format I suppose. Has anyone successfully gotten this to work? Cheers, Shane -- Shane Wegner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/
Re: Using verp with Debian's smartlist package
On Aug 07 2000, Shane Wegner wrote: Has anyone successfully gotten this to work? Must you use sendmail? Would you be willing to use qmail? If so, then qmail supports VERPs outta the box with its fast mailing list manager, ezmlm (and its add-on, ezmlm-idx). I'd recommend using them for both kick some major arse! :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/nectar/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Smartlist (maybe sendmail) canonicalizing a domain
Does anyone know why when I send to a list that I have set up using smartlist at lists.domain.org it canonicalizes the To: header to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my rc.init, I have: domain=3Dlists.domain.org I'd like to have it leave things at lists.domain.org, and I don't want to have mail.domain.org as a CNAME to lists.domain.org (that seems like a bad hack, though I think it would work). Is sendmail doing this or smartlist? Is there any output I can post that would be useful? Something to 'sendmail -bt' maybe? I'm sorry if this is answered somewhere, but I couldn't find the info I needed. TIA -Dan -- ... the most serious problems in the Internet have been caused by unenvisaged mechanisms triggered by low-probability events; mere human malice would never have taken so devious a course! - RFC 1122 section 1.2.2 pgps5wWVXGQnB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Urgente+smartlist
Sorribes juan escribió: Alguien sabe como configurar el smartlint para restringir que cualquiera pueda enviar mail a una lista. Configuro el accept con la dirección de mail que quiero que solamente pueda enviar mail a la lista y dentro del rc.init y rc.custon donde dice foreing_submit pongo = no (foreing_submit = no). Pero igualmente sigue aceptado mails de cualquier direccion. Pues yo lo que tengo es simplemente una línea con foreign_submit en el rc.custom y funciona bien (rechaza a los que no esten en el fichero dist). No es necesario escribir = no y atención que es foreign y no foreing, pero me imagino que esto fue solo un error al escribir tu mensaje de correo. A propósito, ¿que MTA usas? yo tuve que usar sendmail porque no logré poner a funcionar el exim con el smartlist. Sorribes juan respondió: Si fue solo un error al escribir el mensaje de correo. Te comento que la utilidad que yo le doy es solo para que los usuarios reciban unos informes que les envió periódicamente si ellos quieren responder lo hacen a otra dirección . La idea es que los que están en (dist) no puedan escribirle a todo el grupo. El único que puede escribir es la dirección que figura en el (accept). Pero igualmente no funciona ya que cualquiera puede enviar un mail a la lista. Tengo instalado sendmail. En la línea foreign_submit no le pusiste ningún valor??? la tienes descomentada ( # )?? Exactamente. Lo único que hize fue descomentarla (quitar el #) como dicen en los comentarios; no escribí nada adicional (= no) como tu hiciste, y me funciona perfectamente. De todas formas los que se subscriban quedarán dentro de la lista de acceso (dist) y podrán responder enviando mensajes a toda la lista. Lo que quieres hacer (enviar a varios sin que puedan responder) me parece que no es una lista sino un alias que puedes configurar de otras formas sin usar smartlist (procmail, archivo .forward, aliases, etc). Saludos, Jaime Villate
Re: Urgente+smartlist
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Jaime E. Villate wrote: A propósito, ¿que MTA usas? yo tuve que usar sendmail porque no logré poner a funcionar el exim con el smartlist. Para que smartlist y exim funcionen bien el uno con el otro hay que hacer los siguientes cambios en /etc/exim.conf: * Añadir una línea que diga always_bcc = true El sitio supongo que no importa mucho. Yo la tengo puesta justo después de donde dice MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS. * Añadir el usuario list a la lista de usuarios de fiar: trusted_users = mail:list * En la sección system_aliases: descomentar la línea que dice user = list [ Lo anterior lo he probado en potato, supongo que en slink será parecido ].
Urgente+smartlist
Hola a todos, espero que alguien me pueda ayudar...:) Alguien sabe como configurar el smartlint para restringir que cualquiera pueda enviar mail a una lista. Configuro el accept con la direccin de mail que quiero que solamente pueda enviar mail a la lista y dentro del rc.init y rc.custon donde dice foreing_submit pongo = no (foreing_submit = no). Pero igualmente sigue aceptado mails de cualquier direccion. Muchas gracias a todos Atentamente: Juan Sorribes ICQ 14079078
Re: smartlist headers
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dan Brosemer wrote: On potato, smartlist adds Resent-To: headers which list all the people subscribed to the list on every outbound message. Can this be removed? Yes, please read /usr/doc/smartlist/README.exim. I tried with the following (and enabled RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_20): dev:/var/list/testing# cat rc.local.s20 # remove headers :0 fhw | formail -I Resent-To: but no luck. I guess rc.local.s20 is executed before the Resent-To gets added. Indeed, since it's exim the one who adds it :-) In fact, if you want exim not to do that (and you don't follow README.exim), you would have to actually *provide* a valid Resent-To: header so that exim does not add one. Thanks.
solved: smartlist headers
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 01:11:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dan Brosemer wrote: Yes, please read /usr/doc/smartlist/README.exim. Thanks very much. Worked like a charm. I didn't realize it was exim that was adding the pesky headers. -Dan -- Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. pgptSw439oslk.pgp Description: PGP signature
smartlist headers
On potato, smartlist adds Resent-To: headers which list all the people subscribed to the list on every outbound message. Can this be removed? I tried with the following (and enabled RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_20): dev:/var/list/testing# cat rc.local.s20 # remove headers :0 fhw | formail -I Resent-To: but no luck. I guess rc.local.s20 is executed before the Resent-To gets added. TIA -Dan -- Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. pgpEDeNRC64Wb.pgp Description: PGP signature
smartlist
Hi, I am trying to set up a list using smartlist on Slink with sendmail. I have read the QuickStart, and have followed what it said but I have not have any succes. I send a letter to the address with subscribe in the Subject, but get no reply, and don't get an error saying that the message could not be sent, and I don't seem to get any respones server side ether. The only thing I did not do is it said to edit a /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, but this file (and a sendmail.ct) were no where to be found, so I let it be... thanks, -Matt- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://169.244.227.129 MSAD#40 Home Page http://169.244.227.129/ss/MVHS Seed Savers Project +--+ | *To see tomorrow's PC, Look at todays Macintosh* | | * Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org * | +--+
smartlist and attatchments...
I've recently had a small problem with smartlist... most of the messages that I send with attatchments are not send... instead they sit around in a file called 'request.' Does anyone know why this is happening and/or how to fix it?? --Evan -- Evan Van Dyke E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 15442232 DNRC's Minister of Lost Internet Packets. O- Amateur Radio Call Sign: KB8PVEElder ResCon at Northwestern GCS/S d+(-) s:+ a--- C UH+I++LS++V P+ L+++ E W++ N++ w-- O- M-- !V PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP t+ 5+++ X+ R+ tv+ b+++ DI D+ g e h !r y- Quoth the Raven... 'Nevermore!' --Edgar Allen Poe I'll bet that all you can do is watch the ball bounce around the screen. --Dilbert to Management
Re: Smartlist not sending to sender
On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, Erik Forsberg wrote: I'm using smartlist for some small mailinglists on a Debian machine (I hope this isn't too offtopic) Is there a way to configure smartlist NOT to distribute a message to the sender of the message ? I don't want my own postings. Short answer: no, that I know of. If you don't want your own postings, you may divert them to /dev/null using procmail. (I would not recommend this, I like to receive my own postings, tyis way I know that they reached the list). Thanks.
Smartlist not sending to sender
I'm using smartlist for some small mailinglists on a Debian machine (I hope this isn't too offtopic) Is there a way to configure smartlist NOT to distribute a message to the sender of the message ? I don't want my own postings. I've tried to read the manual, but I didn't find any information on the subject. Regards, \EF
Smartlist fails to append usage info to mails...
This is my rc.local.s20 to append unsubscribe information to all messages: :0 fbw | cat - helpend.txt rc.custom calls rc.local.s20 via the following hook: RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_20 = rc.local.s20 BUT: smartlist does not append helpend.txt to the messages !!! What could be the problem here ??? Cheers, -- /(__ __|\ Lars Steinke, Research Student @ (\/ __)_www.fmf.uni-freiburg.de, Germany ) (_ / for PGP PKey and WWW-Page finger /___/[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpwdp5o0BJqu.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Fwd: Smartlist Setup... Service Unavaliable]
Evan Van Dyke wrote: Well, I've installed SmartList, but when I send it a test message, Sendmail dies with the following errors: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/var/list/.bin/flist apollo-teamB-request (expanded from: apollo-teamB-request) - Transcript of session follows - sh: flist not available for sendmail programs 554 |/var/list/.bin/flist apollo-teamB-request... Service unavailable I'm sure it's just a problem of permissions, but I don't knw where... anyone know the rpoblem? --Evan -- Evan Van Dyke E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 15442232 DNRC's Minister of Lost Internet Packets. O- Amateur Radio Call Sign: KB8PVE Quoth the Raven... 'Nevermore!' --Edgar Allen Poe I'll bet that all you can do is watch the ball bounce around the screen. --Dilbert to Management -- Evan Van Dyke E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 15442232 DNRC's Minister of Lost Internet Packets. O- Amateur Radio Call Sign: KB8PVE Quoth the Raven... 'Nevermore!' --Edgar Allen Poe I'll bet that all you can do is watch the ball bounce around the screen. --Dilbert to Management
help: someone has spammed through smartlist on my debian box
/* Please excuse the cross-posting to debian-user and smartlist. I think both are likely to have useful input on this and it feels fairly urgent to me! */ I run a few not particularly large Email lists using smartlist under Hamm. I have subscription confirmation on and have been very happy with the setup. I've had problems as the medical school site which hosts my box has been abused by spammers (45k messages in 24hrs) and had big hassle with the blacklists etc. as a result. Now a spam has gone out on one of my lists last night. The name from which it comes is not on the list nor have I had copies of any attempts by this person to join (which I receive as default normally). The header shows s/he has definitely used the list: Status: U Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from psyctcsghms.ac.uk (psyctc [194.80.201.68]) by ribosome.sghms.ac.uk (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15491; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:11:39 GMT Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by psyctcsghms.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id GAA21614; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:07:50 GMT Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:07:50 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 03:00 ADT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Over 20 Joined In The Last 5 Days - Join Now Get In near The Top! Resent-Message-ID: VxzYWD.A.nRF.2cQV2@psyctc Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive/latest/9 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'unsubscribe' to sign-speak- [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Unsubscribe: mailto:sign-speak- [EMAIL PROTECTED]@body=unsubscribe X-List-Administrator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Evans) X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 0 1 P50480.CNM The stuff at the top shows something odd with the missing stop in psyctcsghms.ac.uk but the psyctc and the IP address are correct. The X-List: and other stuff at the bottom is very definitely the stuff I've put into the list that it should add to all outgoing post so s/he's definitely hacked into the list somehow. I found one other with the same body to the message but a very different header: Received: from nexus.chilenet.cl ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [200.2.98.4]) by psyctcsghms.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id GAA21596 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:01:49 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by nexus.chilenet.cl (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.17) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 19 Nov 98 04:28 ADT Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 02:56 ADT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Over 20 Joined In The Last 5 Days - Join Now Get In near The Top! X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 0 1 P3D710.CNM I'm a bit out of my depth here but willing to do anything reasonable to minimise the risks of this happening again. Does anyone recognise the probable exploit that was used or have advice about how to do more to track down the route used and to block off this or other likely exploits? TIA, Chris
Configuración SmartList
Hola a todos. Estoy instalando Smarlist para gestionar una lista de correo y tengo tres dudas al respecto: 1. Quiero que cuando un miembro de la lista reciba un mensaje de la misma y quiera responder usando el comando Responder (Reply) de su programa de correo electrónico, la dirección de respuesta que le salga sea la de la lista. Esto parece que puede hacerse mediante la línea reply-to del archivo rc.init. Sin embargo, si el programa de correo electrónico que usa el usuario de la lista ya está configurado con una dirección de respuesta, la cosa no funciona. ¿Alguien sabe algo de esto? 2. ¿Es posible añadir a todos los mensajes que pasen por la lista un comentario al final? Si es así, ¿cómo? 3. Por omisión, las personas que mandan un mensaje a la lista reciben su propio mensaje. ¿Se puede hacer que por omisión no los reciban? ¿Cómo? La única documentación que tengo de SmartList es el Manual v1.45 y la verdad es que no es muy amplia, sobre todo para alguien que no sabe casi nada de Linux. Por eso, si mis preguntas son triviales, disculpad. Agradezco vuestra ayuda. Un saludo Joaquín
Re: Configuración SmartList
Hola Igual te sería interesante suscribirte a la lista sobre smartlist. Para eso tienes que mandar un mensaje a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] poniendo subscribe en el cuerpo del mensaje Tambien puedes encontrar más información en: http://www.mindwell.com/smartlist 1. Quiero que cuando un miembro de la lista reciba un mensaje de la misma y quiera responder usando el comando Responder (Reply) de su programa de correo electrónico, la dirección de respuesta que le salga sea la de la lista. Esto parece que puede hacerse mediante la línea reply-to del archivo rc.init. Sin embargo, si el programa de correo electrónico que usa el usuario de la lista ya está configurado con una dirección de respuesta, la cosa no funciona. ¿Alguien sabe algo de esto? Eso no lo entiendo. Qué quiere decir que el programa de correo electrónico esté configurado con una dirección de respuesta? El programa tiene que contestar al que ha enviado el mensaje. Hay dos posibilidades: que para ello use el campo reply-to (si existe) o que use el From. En principio tengo idea de que todos los programas decentes usan el reply-to si es que está. Y si no, puede que pregunte si se lo manda a todos los destinatarios... Pero bueno, en principio la forma de hacerlo es la de configurar el reply-to a la lista y ya está. Normalmente la cosa funciona. Pero en general hacer eso no es una buena idea. 2. ¿Es posible añadir a todos los mensajes que pasen por la lista un comentario al final? Si es así, ¿cómo? Esta es fácil, te copio la respuesta de la página que te dije arriba para escribir menos: Uncomment the line RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_20 = rc.local.s20 from your rc.custom file, and add the following to your rc.local.s20 file: # # Appending a disclaimer to every outgoing mail: # :0 fbw | cat - footer.txt You will also need to create a file called footer.txt, which contains the text to add to the message (this file can be empty though, so you can create the files, but only fill them in when you need to add something) 3. Por omisión, las personas que mandan un mensaje a la lista reciben su propio mensaje. ¿Se puede hacer que por omisión no los reciban? ¿Cómo? Ésta no la sé. Ciao Carlos
Re: Configuración SmartList
Hola :-) On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Joaquín Suárez wrote: 1. Quiero que cuando un miembro de la lista reciba un mensaje de la misma y quiera responder usando el comando Responder (Reply) de su programa de correo electrónico, la dirección de respuesta que le salga sea la de la lista. Esto parece que puede hacerse mediante la línea reply-to del archivo rc.init. [...] Antes de hacer eso, lo mejor sería pensar seriamente en las consecuencias que podrían derivarse. En particular, te recomiendo que leas el siguiente artículo: http://garcon.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html 3. Por omisión, las personas que mandan un mensaje a la lista reciben su propio mensaje. ¿Se puede hacer que por omisión no los reciban? ¿Cómo? smartlist no está preparado de serie para hacer eso, por lo que no conozco ningún método para hacerlo (habría que cambiar bastante la forma en la que se distribuyen los mensajes), pero en cualquier caso tampoco me parece demasiado práctico. Cuando yo envío un mensaje a una lista, me gusta recibirlo de la lista, porque así sé que ha llegado a su destino y no se ha perdido por el camino. Aún en el caso de que cada usuario particular pudiera cambiar esto a su antojo después de suscribirse, no creo que fuera una buena idea que por omisión los usuarios no recibieran sus propios mensajes. [ Me imagino al encargado de la lista siendo frito a preguntas estilo he mandado un mensaje, pero no lo he recibido, ¿por qué? ]. -- 120c9bfafbeb467e73157e76b475400b (a truly random sig)
can't get smartlist working under Debian
I tried sending this to the smartlist list but have had no response. Anyone here got smartlist working and can help? TIA++ Chris - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 28 18:02:59 1998 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:24:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: can't get smartlist working under Debian To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:17:58 + (GMT) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Resent-Message-ID: Ai_M-C.A.f8B.d24D2@campino Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive/latest/5736 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have installed smartlist and procmail under Debian (Hamm). I seem to have made the necessary changes in sendmail.rc and sendmail.cf (I think). I can use createlist successfully and have put the aliases in /etc/aliases and run newaliases which counts them in. Trouble is that if I email the new list request ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I get nothing back. Copying to other accounts on the same machine and elsewhere shows general delivery going O.K. After the line showing that the message was passed to |/var/list/.bin/flist test /var/log/mail.log shows a complaint: Sep 28 13:02:10 psyctc1 procmail[9053]: Error while writing to log I assume that I've managed to get a permission wrong on a log file that procmail wants to log its actions to or that I've failed to create the file. Trouble is that I can't find any documentation mentioning logging when procmail is being invoked directly by sendmail. Can someone help me? I'm no unix wizard or programmer but I have a lot of experience of running lists on mailbase and NTmail and I'd like to transfer to smartlist and Debian but I'm stuck now. Advice gratefully received. Chris - End of forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: can't get smartlist working under Debian
s == slist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: s I assume that I've managed to get a permission wrong on a log file that s procmail wants to log its actions to or that I've failed to create s the file. Trouble is that I can't find any documentation mentioning s logging when procmail is being invoked directly by sendmail. Most likely permissions. One of my lists is called users: ls -ld /var/list/users/ drwxrws--x 4 list list 1024 Jun 19 00:26 /var/list/users/ ls -l /var/list/users/ total 23 lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list4 Nov 15 1997 accept - dist drwxrws--- 3 list list 1024 Jan 13 1998 archive lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 19 Nov 15 1997 archive.txt - ../.etc/archive.txt drwxrws--- 2 list list 1024 Feb 2 1998 bounces -rw-rw 1 list list 433 Apr 28 11:30 dist lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 16 Nov 15 1997 help.txt - ../.etc/help.txt -rw-rw 1 list list 9580 Apr 28 11:30 log -rw-rw 1 list list 652 Jun 19 00:26 msgid.cache -rw-rw 1 list list 4537 Nov 15 1997 rc.custom lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 15 Nov 15 1997 rc.init - ../.etc/rc.init lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 18 Nov 15 1997 rc.request - ../.etc/rc.request lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 17 Nov 15 1997 rc.submit - ../.etc/rc.submit lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 14 Nov 15 1997 reject - ../.etc/reject -rw-rw 1 list list 16 Nov 15 1997 subscribe.files lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 21 Nov 15 1997 subscribe.txt - ../.etc/subscribe.txt -rw-rw 1 list list 178 Apr 28 11:30 tmp.from -rw-rw 1 list list 315 Apr 28 11:30 tmp.request lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 23 Nov 15 1997 unsubscribe.txt - ../.etc/unsubscribe.txt Maybe it is refering to the log file in this directory. Ciao, Martin
permission (?) problem with smartlist
I have installed smartlist and procmail for my debian system (hamm on pentium hardware, running sendmail). I am gradually getting apache and Email set up on the machine as it's going to move to be hosted by a commercial ISP when I transfer my lists and WWW services out of the university here. I think the list manager I want to use is smartlist (majordomo seems a bit less friendly) but I'm failing to install smartlist. The INSTALL instructions in /usr/doc/smartlist/INSTALL refer to an install.sh script which doesn't seem to exist. I assume it's actions have been migrated into the dpkg/dselect installation. If I'm right then it's not the first time and, bearing in mind the recent reviews of Linuxes, I'd rate it as much the biggest problem for newbies to Debian: you end up not feeling you trust any documentation as it's so often clearly inconsistent with the installation you've got. OOPPS: flame off I've followed the instructions to create a user slist and then to use createlist and I've created the new aliases and run newalias. However, when I email the new list request (list is named test, very original...) I get the following. - Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem - From sendmail-daemon Thu Sep 24 15:48:29 1998 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:48:29 GMT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem sendmail-daemon Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: slist Subject: Returned mail: Cannot open input: Error 0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:48:28 GMT from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/var/list/.bin/flist test-request (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - flist: Can't find .etc in /usr/sbin 550 |/var/list/.bin/flist test-request... Cannot open input: Error 0 Reporting-MTA: dns; psyctc1.sghms.ac.uk Arrival-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:48:28 GMT Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; |/var/list/.bin/flist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.3.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:48:29 GMT -- Start of included mail From: slist Return-path: slist Subject: subscribe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:48:28 + (GMT) cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe test -- End of included mail. - End of forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem - It's quite right: there is no .etc in /usr/sbin. Where am I going wrong?! What have I done wrong that would have solved this? Is there something I need to do to make sendmail aware of procmail so that the two can use and be used by smartlist?! Sorry in advance if I'm missing the blindingly obvious. TIA regardless. Chris
SMARTLIST: how to get exact matching?
Can someone tell me how to configure smartlist to do exact address matching? The problem we have is that some usernames are very similar to each other. For exmaple, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a result, when the second user tries to subscribe, smartlist incorrectly says that the user is already subscribed. In rc.custom, will increasing match_threshold help? How much should it be increased, if so? Thanks.
smartlist gateway
Hello,,, Is there and .deb package to susbcribe/unsubscribe with SmartList? I'm looking for something like one that is in Debian Support pages. REgards.
Re: Help with Smartlist + Sender: root
On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: I'm having a problem setting up a mailing list with Smartlist. One of the subscribers is being held hostage to an NT system ;-) and for some reason it says Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Smartlist doesn't like it and rejects mails. The point is he can't change the Sender line, so I have to change Smartlist. The point... how?!?!? Hi. I this this should work: In rc.init uncomment the line saying #RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_00= rc.local.s00 and then write a rc.local.s00 file saying something like: :0 fhw * ^Sender:.*root@ | formail -I Sender: (warning: I have not tested this). However, this would perhaps encourage the bad habit of using the root account for sending mail. Another thing you could do would be to tell the NT user not to use the root account for sending mail ;-)
Re: Help with Smartlist + Sender: root
On Fri, Aug 28, 1998 at 01:42:14PM +0200, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: However, this would perhaps encourage the bad habit of using the root account for sending mail. Another thing you could do would be to tell the NT user not to use the root account for sending mail ;-) I have asked arround, and it's the NT MTA that's setting the Sender field to Sender: root@. The user swears he's sending the mail from a regular account using Netscape Mail. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it. Digging into the manual, I found this: SmartList usually does not accept submissions or subscriptions from daemons. If you'd like to make an exception for some, you can do this by tuning the daemon_bias variable. A sample template can be found in the rc.init file. This variable can of course be set in the rc.init, rc.custom or rc.local files. Instead of directly specifying a weight and a regexp, you can just specify a weight. You'll then have to make sure that the variable is set only when mail from your special daemons arrives. The scary regexp that procmail uses to decide that something is coming from a daemon (FROM_DAEMON) includes a test to catch Sender:.*root. I want to keep all the tests but this one. What I can't find now is a reference to weighting in the procmail manpages. How's the weight suppossed to work? daemon_bias = 0 Sender:.*root ^ What do I put here. A higher number to get the regexp recognized as a daemon or a lower number to get it NOT recognized as a daemon. Thanks again, Marcelo
Re: Help with Smartlist + Sender: root
On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: [...] keep all the tests but this one. What I can't find now is a reference to weighting in the procmail manpages. How's the weight suppossed to work? procmailsc(5) ? -- c4f9f68ae233d0fe52be4735d04df1bf (a truly random sig)
Help with Smartlist + Sender: root
Hi, I'm having a problem setting up a mailing list with Smartlist. One of the subscribers is being held hostage to an NT system ;-) and for some reason it says Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Smartlist doesn't like it and rejects mails. The point is he can't change the Sender line, so I have to change Smartlist. The point... how?!?!? There's a daemon_bias setting, but I can't figure out from rc.submit how that works... what does this mean: * 9876543210^0 something else it says: * something * $$daemon_bias * something and daemon_bias is just a number. Any ideas? TIA, Marcelo
Using SMARTLIST from bo? Please, READ this.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello. This message is for users of the Debian smartlist package. I have detected a little problem which may arise when upgrading smartlist from bo to hamm. If you are running smartlist_3.1016 from bo, please read the following before upgrading to hamm. The problem is very simple: In bo, when a list was created, the script /var/list/.bin/createlist used HARDlinks to link some files from the list directory to the .etc directory. Well, by design, dpkg does not preserve those hardlinks on upgrades. Instead, they end up being different files. For example, if, say foo/rc.request is a hardlink to .etc/rc.request (created automatically by createlist) and the file .etc/rc.request is replaced by a newer one by dpkg, then foo/rc.request and .etc/rc.request will not be hardlinked anymore. This is not what one might expect. All lists should benefit from enhancements in the files in .etc. Therefore it is much better to use symlinks and not hardlinks. The .bin/createlist in hamm's smartlist already uses symlinks. However, one may have already lots of created lists with hardlinks to .etc. I strongly recommend to convert all those hardlinks into symlinks *before* upgrading to hamm's smartlist. The preinst script for smartlist_3.10.7-5 (just installed in hamm) will just warn you about this and will let you to break the process by pressing Control-C. This way, smartlist will not be upgraded until the user is aware of the problem and has fixed it. The following script will do the job. I have tested it and works for me, but use it at your own risk. *-8- #!/bin/sh filestosymlink=rc.submit rc.init rc.request help.txt subscribe.txt \ unsubscribe.txt archive.txt reject cd /var/list # Note: touching .etc/rc.lock makes incoming mails to be on hold # temporarily, while we convert hardlinks into symlinks. # See the smartlist Manual for details. touch .etc/rc.lock echo Please wait for 5 seconds. sleep 5 echo Converting most hardlinks into symlinks... for a in `ls`; do if [ -d $a ]; then cd $a if [ -d archive ]; then for b in $filestosymlink; do if [ -f $b ]; then inode1=`ls -li ../.etc/$b | awk '{ print $1 }'` inode2=`ls -li $b | awk '{ print $1 }'` if [ $inode1 = $inode2 ]; then rm -f $b ln -s ../.etc/$b fi fi done fi cd .. fi done rm -f .etc/rc.lock echo Done. *-8- Sorry for the inconvenience, etc. p.s. I have uploaded today bo-unstable releases of procmail and smartlist, for people using 1.3.1 who want Maildir support in procmail or confirmation of subscriptions in smartlist (remember to transform hardlinks into symlinks *first*). Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNXbs9iqK7IlOjMLFAQEaIwP/d4XDMGW1aU/YQHtl/uhKp1czNTl+SV8V U1B1fNAUS2m40IWqo9wyngawngaqhDKxwAR23HcJ/H0LvYwJinwA9qBa3qeF+6M9 gx+umTzMxttSUGds+EG5yOnLBcKWoSAh7NMR2tOjv+M4JjRMgs5gp5C39zkoeeG1 Z2XY6PIqKJ4= =BpaS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SmartList Trailer
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Mark Sailer wrote: I'm looking to add a trailer to a mail list I'm running. I haven't been able to figure out how to add this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trailer, you mean like the above? Just add # # Appending a footer to every outgoing mail: # :0 fbw | cat - footer.txt to rc.local.s20 where footer.txt, of course, contains your trailer. The other thing I want to add is in the Subject: I want it to read: [listname] actual_subject This should work if you add :0 fhw | sed 's/Subject: /Subject: [$listname] /' to rc.submit. Please note that the first is tested and the second is untested but just an idea. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have source for! / pgpVlHU09Bl43.pgp Description: PGP signature
SmartList Trailer
I'm looking to add a trailer to a mail list I'm running. I haven't been able to figure out how to add this. The other thing I want to add is in the Subject: I want it to read: [listname] actual_subject Any ideas?? Thanks Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smartlist
Hi..I installed Smarlist and I create and list called test (as is explain in Quick Start file).The last step in this process must be execute newaliases...but when I doing the shell answer me that command not found...why? I have intalled Smail and when I don't see newaliases in nowhere. Where's new aliases? Is it in Sendmail pakage? (I hate sendmail...too much tricy to me). bye and thanks! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smartlist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, dada wrote: Hi..I installed Smarlist and I create and list called test (as is explain in Quick Start file).The last step in this process must be execute newaliases...but when I doing the shell answer me that command not found...why? I have intalled Smail and when I don't see newaliases in nowhere. Where's new aliases? Is it in Sendmail pakage? (I hate sendmail...too much tricy to me). smail doesn't require the newaliases command to be run when updating the alias file. Just skip the last step. Technically, the Debian policy for MTAs requires that the command be provided, even if it is a no-op, but smail has a bug in that regard. This has already been reported to the maintainer. - -- | You are never given a wish without also Scott K. Ellis |being given the power to make it true. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |You may have to work for it, however. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9yj9qCk2fENdzpVAQGK6QP/fewjTiUe1rkK2Me3QdwhypJJdsCP04VP z5DX8KsBFV/4VCn46fQZ38V87D6yYsg9QM0c4np5aQso0rCDBCw5e+SzCE3eFBbF XDSJnPW1kX1qnmI35dHlc7ZvQi7LCYbXHDf8TvUL0GD/b2foUg558eUyZXyV9RoW nb0iVQe6Aqk= =LJ8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smartlist question
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Giuseppe Vacanti wrote: Anybody who could help? FYI, I haven't integrated procmail in the mail delivery system. Thanks, Giuseppe Vacanti According to the procmail docs, you need the following line in your /etc/smail/transports: local: return_path, local, from, driver=pipe; user=root, cmd=/usr/bin/procmail -d $($user$) and comment out the local line that is there like so: #local: driver=appendfile, from, local, inet, return_path, unix_from_hack; # append_as_user, check_user, file=/var/spool/mail/${lc:strip:user}, # group=mail, mode=0660, notify_comsat, suffix=\n Let me know how it goes, I haven't tried smartlist yet, but I'm using smail and procmail alreadyand I've heard favourable mention of smartlist on other lists. Hope this helps! Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smartlist question
I'm trying to use smartlist (3.10-14). On the first message I send to the test list testing, I get this error (through smail): |- Message log follows: -| flist: Couldn't exec ../.bin/procmail |- Failed addresses follow: -| |exec /var/list/.bin/flist testing-request ... failed: transport pipe: child returned status EX_UNAVAILABLE (69) |- Message text follows: | [etc etc] Then if I link /var/list/.bin/procmail to /usr/bin/procmail I get this: |- Message log follows: -| flist: Can't find .etc in |- Failed addresses follow: -| |exec /var/list/.bin/flist testing-request ... failed: transport pipe: child returned status EX_NOINPUT (66) |- Message text follows: | [etc etc] Anybody who could help? FYI, I haven't integrated procmail in the mail delivery system. Thanks, Giuseppe Vacanti -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Please, DON'T upgrade SmartList.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- This is a message for all the Debian SmartList users: I have just received an important bug report about the smartlist package: Currently, if you *upgrade* smartlist (from rex to bo, for example), you may lost all your list aliases in /etc/aliases. This is because current `postinst' and `postrm' scripts are somewhat buggy. I'm working on it, so be patient and please don't upgrade your smartlist package. [ For Debian 1.3, maybe I will ask you to replace your current /var/lib/dpkg/info/smartlist.postrm by the new one *before* upgrading, to avoid this bug. ] Stay tuned, (and remember that unstable may be unstable). Thanks. - -- The current Debian smartlist package maintainer. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBMxC8QyqK7IlOjMLFAQHGawQAjvQxqMOzmhn1SB4dNshhy3fXZ1mtd24b Nig2ouTZrecX8WPSD1JKy4E5orUac6GcBk/6dQcCVRk2V00LnTvYjLZj4D9CkdKq rPlwrUD+4q9YJZZ5bgqo6nVYEKAWtWmQ0hytPhub5g2oMPgqOLSm32HSzwMad0J4 ychULbsiFY8= =zIjx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smartlist and smrsh
Hi, I am running smartlist.10-10 and sendmail.8.8.4-1 with smrsh support. I let smartlist setup the default mail list called announce yet when I tried to send mail to announce-request I got this message: announce-request... aliased to |exec /var/list/.bin/flist announce-request |exec /var/list/.bin/flist announce-request... Connecting to prog... sh: exec not available for sendmail programs |exec /var/list/.bin/flist announce-request... Service unavailable /usr/home/larry/dead.letter... Saved message in /usr/home/larry/dead.letter Now I assume that this is because there isn't a link for exec in /usr/lib/sm.bin yet I can't find the file exec to include. To get it working I simply removed the references to exec in /etc/aliases, put a link in /usr/lib/sm.bin for flist and it seems to be working okay. Will this get me in trouble? Is there a way to make it work with the exec in /etc/aliases? Thanks in advance, Adam. Earthlight Communications Limited --- P.O. Box 5301Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New ZealandSystems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 --- http://www.earthlight.co.nz/homepage.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smartlist and smrsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Adam Shand wrote: I am running smartlist.10-10 and sendmail.8.8.4-1 with smrsh support. I let smartlist setup the default mail list called announce yet when I tried to send mail to announce-request I got this message: announce-request... aliased to |exec /var/list/.bin/flist announce-request |exec /var/list/.bin/flist announce-request... Connecting to prog... sh: exec not available for sendmail programs |exec /var/list/.bin/flist announce-request... Service unavailable /usr/home/larry/dead.letter... Saved message in /usr/home/larry/dead.letter Now I assume that this is because there isn't a link for exec in /usr/lib/sm.bin yet I can't find the file exec to include. exec is a bash builtin: try type exec. To get it working I simply removed the references to exec in /etc/aliases, put a link in /usr/lib/sm.bin for flist and it seems to be working okay. Will this get me in trouble? Is there a way to make it work with the exec in /etc/aliases? If it works, don't change it :-) [ Maybe I should have removed the exec from the beginning... ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBMt0FpyqK7IlOjMLFAQGA6gP/TBtKg3r0JNv/iThQ1ECfx2ZJLzNlrw+0 qOVfW6KGtjbL9iOu4lBtSyZi0il8VGrJJhMeYk/cuJ8aBVQAp/3HfYZJgFtqecXT BQ6PO8aHv+A/X1m/ZNmd0KFXzJ+p2+bsEq6ckQlbQiEKg49p0ScIlRuEr+bI7TBn V02RlMU7Bbo= =pOHi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRCD / SmartList / xfishtank available at ftp.fuller.edu
We got some more packages debianized. Here is the current list of unique debian packages at ftp.fuller.edu: In this directory you will find new packages that are not yet in the standard debian distribution. mgetty-0.99-1 Adds PPP autodetect to mgetty. ppp-2.2.0fx-1 Adds Remote configuration ability for DNS information for dialin Win95 and WinNT users. apache-1.1.1-1 Upgraded Apache Package verse-0.12 Daily Scripture Verses xfishtank-2.2 Fishtank for X ircd-2.8.21-1 IRC Server smartlist-3.10-1 Mailing List Processor. No Perl much faster than Majordomo. If anyone could help us getting these packages onto ftp.debian.org... Also we have set up an IRC Server for the LUG in Los Angeles at lalug.org. We would be interested in building an IRC network with other LUGs.