Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-06 Thread jeroen
Could have found what's causing the issue. I have no idea what he's  
talking about though...

Looking in to it now, but any help is appreciated.

Jeroen

--- start quote ---

Framebuffer/X notes

New - I managed to replace the atyfb code of 2.4.27 with the one of  
2.4.16. This means there are dozens of new drivers available for for  
users which need the framebuffer-patch. Due to its completely  
different design, 2.6.8.x kernels still bring along difficulties in  
respect of forward porting. Anyway, the resulting 2.4.27 kernel is  
available as a deb-package.


Using kernel 2.4.16 with or without full-width console patch works  
fine with X. Mind that the following modeline is required:


ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync - 
vsync


The atyfb of 2.4.18 and later seems to have changed a lot. The full- 
width console patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore - not even this  
one. If framebuffer support is compiled in, Xfree86 4.3 whites the  
screen slowly which doesn't look healthy. Not even the modeline entry  
helps. Xserver-mach64 works insufficiently (corrupts the screen and  
mouse-input is translated horribly).


I'm trying to insert the 2.4.16 atyfb code into higher kernels  
(probably 2.6.8). Results will be published here upon success.


--- end quote ---

from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html


On 06 Sep 2005, at 00:54, jeroen wrote:

Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:



I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I  
think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.






#gdm
returns a command not found


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:




jeroen wrote:




I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to

after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).




Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces (also man interfaces for
examples). Once configured, a simple /etc/init.d/networking restart
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get your
network up.





It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting something  
of a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many thanks for  
pointing me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!






Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)




These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?





When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync  
and VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.






What other minor changes did you make?





My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/OptionXkbLayoutukto
-OptionXkbLayoutgb
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the  
working config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/IdentifierConfigured Mouse
/OptionEmulate3Buttontrue
/OptionZAxisMapping4 5 to
-IdentifierConfigured Mouse
-OptionButtons5
-OptionZAxisMapping5 4
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  320x240 640x480)






Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.





Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...





With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window manager




I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
(aptitude install icewm, etc), or make sure you've got xterm  
installed

(aptitude install xterm) and then put icewm or xterm in the file
~/.xinitrc (you'll probably have to create the file), and then run
startx. If you put icewm in ~/.initrc, Icewm should start  
up; if
you put xterm, you should get an xterm (with no window controls;  
you

can type exit to shut down X in such a case).





Tried this, with both suggested wms (and both .xinitrc and .initrc  
- was this a typo or are they indeed different?), they produce the  
same white screen.

You where right that i had to create both files.
I renamed them so there never was both a .xinitrc and and .initrc  
in my ~/.





Remember that USB disk you mentioned? I bet it works with USB fobs  
as well.






Doh! Thanks for that. It's the only floppy drive i have so i have  
to plug it in and out, it works, that's most important.
I do have a problem with copying my XFree86.0.log, It gives a -36  
error when i try to copy it over to my mac. I'll look into that  

Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-06 Thread jeroen

This is starting to look like a blog ;)

I installed the kernel found on the previously mentioned page (http:// 
gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html).
It doesn't look really nice. Full screen console is built in but is  
shifted (not placed correctly, with white band down the screen).  
Startx (with fvwm) works fine. That means i get to see the graphical  
login screen now... the screen itself doesn't really look nice, with  
stripes all over the place.


As mentioned in the above page the problems with the white screen  
allegedly happen with Xfree86 4.3. I'm now looking into removing the  
version i have running now and replace it with a previous version. If  
i get this to work with the standard default kernel i will be a happy  
man.


kernel compiling is a bit over the top for me right now i think.  
Maybe next week ;D


Cheers,
Jeroen

On 06 Sep 2005, at 20:35, jeroen wrote:

Could have found what's causing the issue. I have no idea what he's  
talking about though...

Looking in to it now, but any help is appreciated.

Jeroen

--- start quote ---

Framebuffer/X notes

New - I managed to replace the atyfb code of 2.4.27 with the one of  
2.4.16. This means there are dozens of new drivers available for  
for users which need the framebuffer-patch. Due to its completely  
different design, 2.6.8.x kernels still bring along difficulties in  
respect of forward porting. Anyway, the resulting 2.4.27 kernel is  
available as a deb-package.


Using kernel 2.4.16 with or without full-width console patch works  
fine with X. Mind that the following modeline is required:


ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 - 
hsync -vsync


The atyfb of 2.4.18 and later seems to have changed a lot. The full- 
width console patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore - not even this  
one. If framebuffer support is compiled in, Xfree86 4.3 whites the  
screen slowly which doesn't look healthy. Not even the modeline  
entry helps. Xserver-mach64 works insufficiently (corrupts the  
screen and mouse-input is translated horribly).


I'm trying to insert the 2.4.16 atyfb code into higher kernels  
(probably 2.6.8). Results will be published here upon success.


--- end quote ---

from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html


On 06 Sep 2005, at 00:54, jeroen wrote:


Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:




I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I  
think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.







#gdm
returns a command not found


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:





jeroen wrote:





I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to

after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).





Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces (also man interfaces for
examples). Once configured, a simple /etc/init.d/networking  
restart
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get  
your

network up.






It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting something  
of a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many thanks for  
pointing me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!







Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)





These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?






When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync  
and VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.







What other minor changes did you make?






My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/OptionXkbLayoutukto
-OptionXkbLayoutgb
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the  
working config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/IdentifierConfigured Mouse
/OptionEmulate3Buttontrue
/OptionZAxisMapping4 5 to
-IdentifierConfigured Mouse
-OptionButtons5
-OptionZAxisMapping5 4
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  320x240 640x480)







Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.






Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...






With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window manager





I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
(aptitude install icewm, etc), or make sure you've got xterm  
installed
(aptitude install xterm) and then 

Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-06 Thread jeroen

continuing blog

i installed the x-server from woody, x starts up fine now, jeej!
i guess this issue is closed, unless this was a bad idea.

Thx for reading my ramblings,
Jeroen

On 06 Sep 2005, at 21:06, jeroen wrote:


This is starting to look like a blog ;)

I installed the kernel found on the previously mentioned page  
(http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html).
It doesn't look really nice. Full screen console is built in but is  
shifted (not placed correctly, with white band down the screen).  
Startx (with fvwm) works fine. That means i get to see the  
graphical login screen now... the screen itself doesn't really look  
nice, with stripes all over the place.


As mentioned in the above page the problems with the white screen  
allegedly happen with Xfree86 4.3. I'm now looking into removing  
the version i have running now and replace it with a previous  
version. If i get this to work with the standard default kernel i  
will be a happy man.


kernel compiling is a bit over the top for me right now i think.  
Maybe next week ;D


Cheers,
Jeroen

On 06 Sep 2005, at 20:35, jeroen wrote:


Could have found what's causing the issue. I have no idea what  
he's talking about though...

Looking in to it now, but any help is appreciated.

Jeroen

--- start quote ---

Framebuffer/X notes

New - I managed to replace the atyfb code of 2.4.27 with the one  
of 2.4.16. This means there are dozens of new drivers available  
for for users which need the framebuffer-patch. Due to its  
completely different design, 2.6.8.x kernels still bring along  
difficulties in respect of forward porting. Anyway, the resulting  
2.4.27 kernel is available as a deb-package.


Using kernel 2.4.16 with or without full-width console patch works  
fine with X. Mind that the following modeline is required:


ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 - 
hsync -vsync


The atyfb of 2.4.18 and later seems to have changed a lot. The  
full-width console patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore - not even  
this one. If framebuffer support is compiled in, Xfree86 4.3  
whites the screen slowly which doesn't look healthy. Not even the  
modeline entry helps. Xserver-mach64 works insufficiently  
(corrupts the screen and mouse-input is translated horribly).


I'm trying to insert the 2.4.16 atyfb code into higher kernels  
(probably 2.6.8). Results will be published here upon success.


--- end quote ---

from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html


On 06 Sep 2005, at 00:54, jeroen wrote:



Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:





I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager,  
I think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.








#gdm
returns a command not found


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:






jeroen wrote:






I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to

after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).






Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces (also man interfaces for
examples). Once configured, a simple /etc/init.d/networking  
restart
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get  
your

network up.







It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting  
something of a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many  
thanks for pointing me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!








Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)





These images look like your video settings are not suitable for  
your

hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?







When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync  
and VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.








What other minor changes did you make?







My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/OptionXkbLayoutukto
-OptionXkbLayoutgb
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the  
working config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/IdentifierConfigured Mouse
/OptionEmulate3Buttontrue
/OptionZAxisMapping4 5 to
-IdentifierConfigured Mouse
-OptionButtons5
-OptionZAxisMapping5 4
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and  
VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  320x240 640x480)








Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.







Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...







With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window 

starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-05 Thread jeroen

Hello all,

--intro

I'm trying (finally) to get debian to work on my Vaio PCG-C1VE.
Using the latest version of the installer (floppy images) i succeeded  
in installing 3.1 on the little b*st*rd. Previous versions didn't  
support USB disks (at least not on a noob level) so thx debian!


I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i  
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still have to  
after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).


Once i got the machine to boot from its own HD i though it would be  
nice to have GUI to learn my way around debian (and linux in general).


--/intro

fresh install
i did:
#apt-get install x-window-system
#apt-get install gnome

immediately after this i used vi to change my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
The most important change i did was adding this modeline:
ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync - 
vsync
together with some other minor changes i found on http://www- 
jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/c1/


#startx
works fine (this means it starts up ;-/ ), the only thing i get to  
see is a black screen which bleeds to a very white blue (starting at  
the edges). Some vertical and horizontal lines can be seen as well,  
all at the edge of some very white colours.

Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)

The only way to get me out of this white hell is by tapping Ctrl-Alt- 
F1, followed by Ctrl-C to stop the X server.


With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a  
window manager (didn't i read somewhere that this is not included in  
gnome??) so i did

#apt-get install fvwm

nothing changed.

So here i am writing this mail, hoping somebody here can put me on  
the right track.


Thx for taking the time to read this,
Jeroen

I would include my XFree86.0.log but i have no idea how to get it of  
the laptop (skipped mail config in debian installer...)



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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-05 Thread Oliver Lupton

jeroen wrote:


Hello all,

--intro

I'm trying (finally) to get debian to work on my Vaio PCG-C1VE.
Using the latest version of the installer (floppy images) i succeeded  
in installing 3.1 on the little b*st*rd. Previous versions didn't  
support USB disks (at least not on a noob level) so thx debian!


I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i  
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still have to  
after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).


Once i got the machine to boot from its own HD i though it would be  
nice to have GUI to learn my way around debian (and linux in general).


--/intro

fresh install
i did:
#apt-get install x-window-system
#apt-get install gnome

immediately after this i used vi to change my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
The most important change i did was adding this modeline:
ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync - 
vsync
together with some other minor changes i found on http://www- 
jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/c1/


#startx
works fine (this means it starts up ;-/ ), the only thing i get to  
see is a black screen which bleeds to a very white blue (starting at  
the edges). Some vertical and horizontal lines can be seen as well,  
all at the edge of some very white colours.

Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)

The only way to get me out of this white hell is by tapping Ctrl-Alt- 
F1, followed by Ctrl-C to stop the X server.


With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a  
window manager (didn't i read somewhere that this is not included in  
gnome??) so i did

#apt-get install fvwm

nothing changed.

So here i am writing this mail, hoping somebody here can put me on  
the right track.


Thx for taking the time to read this,
Jeroen

I would include my XFree86.0.log but i have no idea how to get it of  
the laptop (skipped mail config in debian installer...)



I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I think) 
instead of 'startx' and see how that works.
I think that apt-get install gnome should have installed metacity, 
GNOME's window manager.


Good luck.

Oliver


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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-05 Thread Kent West
jeroen wrote:

 I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i 
 did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still have to 
 after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).

Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces (also man interfaces for
examples). Once configured, a simple /etc/init.d/networking restart
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get your
network up.

 Once i got the machine to boot from its own HD i though it would be 
 nice to have GUI to learn my way around debian (and linux in general).

 --/intro

 fresh install
 i did:
 #apt-get install x-window-system
 #apt-get install gnome

 immediately after this i used vi to change my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
 The most important change i did was adding this modeline:
 ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -
 vsync
 together with some other minor changes i found on http://www-
 jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/c1/

 #startx
 works fine (this means it starts up ;-/ ), the only thing i get to 
 see is a black screen which bleeds to a very white blue (starting at 
 the edges). Some vertical and horizontal lines can be seen as well, 
 all at the edge of some very white colours.
 Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
 http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)

These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?

What other minor changes did you make?

 The only way to get me out of this white hell is by tapping Ctrl-Alt-
 F1, followed by Ctrl-C to stop the X server.

Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.

 With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a 
 window manager

I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

 (didn't i read somewhere that this is not included in  gnome??) so i did
 #apt-get install fvwm

 nothing changed.

 So here i am writing this mail, hoping somebody here can put me on 
 the right track.

 Thx for taking the time to read this,
 Jeroen

 I would include my XFree86.0.log but i have no idea how to get it of 
 the laptop (skipped mail config in debian installer...)

Remember that USB disk you mentioned? I bet it works with USB fobs as well.



-- 
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Technology Support
/A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity


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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-05 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:

jeroen wrote:
  

With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a 
window manager



I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.
  


You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
(aptitude install icewm, etc), or make sure you've got xterm installed
(aptitude install xterm) and then put icewm or xterm in the file
~/.xinitrc (you'll probably have to create the file), and then run
startx. If you put icewm in ~/.initrc, Icewm should start up; if
you put xterm, you should get an xterm (with no window controls; you
can type exit to shut down X in such a case).

-- 
Kent West
Technology Support
/A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity


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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-05 Thread jeroen


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:

I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I  
think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.




#gdm
returns a command not found


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:


jeroen wrote:


I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still have to
after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).


Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces (also man interfaces for
examples). Once configured, a simple /etc/init.d/networking restart
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get your
network up.



It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting something of  
a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many thanks for pointing  
me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!




Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)


These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?



When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync and  
VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.




What other minor changes did you make?



My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/OptionXkbLayoutukto
-OptionXkbLayoutgb
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the working  
config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/IdentifierConfigured Mouse
/OptionEmulate3Buttontrue
/OptionZAxisMapping4 5 to
-IdentifierConfigured Mouse
-OptionButtons5
-OptionZAxisMapping5 4
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  320x240 640x480)




Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.



Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...



With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window manager


I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
(aptitude install icewm, etc), or make sure you've got xterm  
installed

(aptitude install xterm) and then put icewm or xterm in the file
~/.xinitrc (you'll probably have to create the file), and then run
startx. If you put icewm in ~/.initrc, Icewm should start up; if
you put xterm, you should get an xterm (with no window controls; you
can type exit to shut down X in such a case).



Tried this, with both suggested wms (and both .xinitrc and .initrc -  
was this a typo or are they indeed different?), they produce the same  
white screen.

You where right that i had to create both files.
I renamed them so there never was both a .xinitrc and and .initrc in  
my ~/.



Remember that USB disk you mentioned? I bet it works with USB fobs  
as well.




Doh! Thanks for that. It's the only floppy drive i have so i have to  
plug it in and out, it works, that's most important.
I do have a problem with copying my XFree86.0.log, It gives a -36  
error when i try to copy it over to my mac. I'll look into that  
tomorrow (when i follow your tips on the interfaces).


Now it's time for me to go to bed, i'm on CET and have to work tomorrow.

Thank you for your time,
Jeroen



jeroen wrote:




Hello all,

--intro

I'm trying (finally) to get debian to work on my Vaio PCG-C1VE.
Using the latest version of the installer (floppy images) i  
succeeded  in installing 3.1 on the little b*st*rd. Previous  
versions didn't  support USB disks (at least not on a noob level)  
so thx debian!


I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation  
(i  did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to  after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).


Once i got the machine to boot from its own HD i though it would  
be  nice to have GUI to learn my way around debian (and linux in  
general).


--/intro

fresh install
i did:
#apt-get install x-window-system
#apt-get install gnome

immediately after this i used vi to change my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
The most important change i did was adding this modeline:
ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 - 
hsync - vsync
together with some other minor changes i found on http://www-  
jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/c1/


#startx
works fine (this means it starts up ;-/ ), the only thing i get  
to  see is a black screen which bleeds to a very white blue  
(starting at  the edges). Some vertical and horizontal lines can  
be seen as well,  all at the edge of some very white colours.

Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg 

Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

2005-09-05 Thread jeroen
Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:


I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I  
think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.





#gdm
returns a command not found


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:



jeroen wrote:



I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still have to
after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).



Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces (also man interfaces for
examples). Once configured, a simple /etc/init.d/networking restart
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get your
network up.




It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting something of  
a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many thanks for pointing  
me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!





Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)



These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?




When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync and  
VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.





What other minor changes did you make?




My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/OptionXkbLayoutukto
-OptionXkbLayoutgb
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the working  
config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/IdentifierConfigured Mouse
/OptionEmulate3Buttontrue
/OptionZAxisMapping4 5 to
-IdentifierConfigured Mouse
-OptionButtons5
-OptionZAxisMapping5 4
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  320x240 640x480)





Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.




Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...




With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window manager



I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
(aptitude install icewm, etc), or make sure you've got xterm  
installed

(aptitude install xterm) and then put icewm or xterm in the file
~/.xinitrc (you'll probably have to create the file), and then run
startx. If you put icewm in ~/.initrc, Icewm should start up; if
you put xterm, you should get an xterm (with no window controls; you
can type exit to shut down X in such a case).




Tried this, with both suggested wms (and both .xinitrc and .initrc -  
was this a typo or are they indeed different?), they produce the same  
white screen.

You where right that i had to create both files.
I renamed them so there never was both a .xinitrc and and .initrc in  
my ~/.




Remember that USB disk you mentioned? I bet it works with USB fobs  
as well.





Doh! Thanks for that. It's the only floppy drive i have so i have to  
plug it in and out, it works, that's most important.
I do have a problem with copying my XFree86.0.log, It gives a -36  
error when i try to copy it over to my mac. I'll look into that  
tomorrow (when i follow your tips on the interfaces).


Now it's time for me to go to bed, i'm on CET and have to work tomorrow.

Thank you for your time,
Jeroen




jeroen wrote:





Hello all,

--intro

I'm trying (finally) to get debian to work on my Vaio PCG-C1VE.
Using the latest version of the installer (floppy images) i  
succeeded  in installing 3.1 on the little b*st*rd. Previous  
versions didn't  support USB disks (at least not on a noob level)  
so thx debian!


I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation  
(i  did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to  after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).


Once i got the machine to boot from its own HD i though it would  
be  nice to have GUI to learn my way around debian (and linux in  
general).


--/intro

fresh install
i did:
#apt-get install x-window-system
#apt-get install gnome

immediately after this i used vi to change my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
The most important change i did was adding this modeline:
ModeLine 1024x480 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 - 
hsync - vsync
together with some other minor changes i found on http://www-  
jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/c1/


#startx
works fine (this means it starts up ;-/ ), the only thing i get  
to  see is a black screen which bleeds to a very white blue  
(starting at  the edges). Some vertical and horizontal lines can  
be seen as well,  all at the edge