Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

2023-05-25 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonjour,

J'ai signalé la disponibilité de xemacs 21.5.35 au mainteneur
via le bug Debian #1036764[1].  Mark me signale que la dernière
version est toujours considérée comme une publicaton beta, en
cours de développement.  Donc j'imagine qu'il reste un certain
nombre de bogues à clore.

[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1036764

Bonne journée,  :)
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Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

2023-05-25 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 25 mai 2023 didier gaumet a écrit :

> J'ai l'impression en regardant le site Xemacs et les docs d'install de
> l'archive à télécharger que la construction de Xemacs se fait à la carte 
> (avec ou sans Mule, avec ou sans Gnome et Gtk, etc...) et que l'équipe Xemacs

Oui il y a des paquets xemacs avec et sans mule. Pour gtk c'est emacs qui est
avec ou sans.

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bullseye=all=any=names=emacs



Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

2023-05-25 Thread didier gaumet



Bonjour,

Je calme tout de suite les inquiétudes: ça fait trop longtemps que j'ai 
abandonné le développement pour émettre un avis pertinent, donc juste 
prendre ce qui suit comme une éventuelle piste et rien d'autre :-)


J'ai l'impression en regardant le site Xemacs et les docs d'install de 
l'archive à télécharger que la construction de Xemacs se fait à la carte 
(avec ou sans Mule, avec ou sans Gnome et Gtk, etc...) et que l'équipe 
Xemacs considère que si on sort sort du basique tronc commun, il faut 
soi-même incorporer les bibliothèques de développement concernées qui 
sont nécessaires et que de plus il faut bien gérer tout ça pour que des 
bibliothèques qui sont effectivement installées soient bien vues et 
prises en compte pour la construction?
Donc peut-être regarder si il ne manque pas des bibliothèques de 
développement graphiques?
Me souviens plus, on n'avait pas parlé il y a quelques semaines ou mois 
d'un outil pour trouver automatiquement quelles dépendances incorporer 
pour une construction?


Bref, je raconte peut-être vraiment n'importe quoi parce que je n'ai pas 
bien lu ou compris l'exposé de Basile et Etienne, auquel cas désolé pour 
le bruit :-)




Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

2023-05-25 Thread Basile Starynkevitch



On 5/24/23 22:31, Étienne Mollier wrote:

Bonjour Basile,

Basile Starynkevitch, on 2023-05-24:

/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined reference to
`x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccua0L0n.ltrans74.ltrans.o: in function
`popup_selection_callback':
/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/gui-x.c:308: undefined reference to
`x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Le problème de xemacs 21.5.35 est reproductible avec gcc-12 de
Debian sid.  Le symbole manquant est défini à deux emplacements
différents dans le code source, ce qui ne facilite pas la
résolution :

 $ grep x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better -r
 src/menubar-x.c:  extern Time 
x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
 src/menubar-x.c:   x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
 src/gui-x.c:  extern Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
 src/gui-x.c:  DEVICE_X_MOUSE_TIMESTAMP (d) = 
x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;

  src/event-gtk.c:Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;

 src/event-gtk.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better = 
time(0);

  lwlib/xlwmenu.c:Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;

 lwlib/xlwmenu.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better =
 lwlib/xlwmenu.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better =

À mon avis ce serait à signaler à l'équipe de developpement
amont de xemacs.  Ce qui me surprend, c'est que le phénomène ne
se soit pas déclenché plus tôt ; ces définitions ne sont
apparemment pas nouvelles quand on regarde dans d'anciennes
versions de xemacs.

Si ça peut aider,



Je n'ai pas réussi à faire un rapport de bogue sur xemacs.org

(ma principale préoccupation actuelle est mon dossier de retraite, 
prévue le 1er nov. 2023; avec seulement 4 employeurs principaux -ENS 
Cachan, CEA, INRIA, université- c'est bigrement compliqué).


Bien sûr à la retraite je continuerais de développer http://refpersys.org/


Librement

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Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

2023-05-24 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonjour Basile,

Basile Starynkevitch, on 2023-05-24:
> /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined reference to
> `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
> reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
> reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
> reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
> /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccua0L0n.ltrans74.ltrans.o: in function
> `popup_selection_callback':
> /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/gui-x.c:308: undefined reference to
> `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Le problème de xemacs 21.5.35 est reproductible avec gcc-12 de
Debian sid.  Le symbole manquant est défini à deux emplacements
différents dans le code source, ce qui ne facilite pas la
résolution :

$ grep x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better -r
src/menubar-x.c:  extern Time 
x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
src/menubar-x.c:x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
src/gui-x.c:  extern Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
src/gui-x.c:  DEVICE_X_MOUSE_TIMESTAMP (d) = 
x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
>>  src/event-gtk.c:Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
src/event-gtk.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better = 
time(0);
>>  lwlib/xlwmenu.c:Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
lwlib/xlwmenu.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better =
lwlib/xlwmenu.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better =

À mon avis ce serait à signaler à l'équipe de developpement
amont de xemacs.  Ce qui me surprend, c'est que le phénomène ne
se soit pas déclenché plus tôt ; ces définitions ne sont
apparemment pas nouvelles quand on regarde dans d'anciennes
versions de xemacs.

Si ça peut aider,
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compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

2023-05-24 Thread Basile Starynkevitch

Bonjour la liste,


Sur un PC fixe Dell (Precision 7920,  Intel(R) Xeon(R) Silver 4114,  au 
bureau CEA LIST, noyau Debian 6.1.27-1, Debian GLIBC 2.36-9) sous Debian 
Sid (sous Xorg) je n'arrive pas à compiler xemacs-21.5.35 (gcc-13 de la 
debian), configuré avec


 './configure'  '--with-bignum=gmp' '--with-union-type' 
'--with-widgets=gtk' '--sysconfdir=/etc/local/' 
'--program-suffix=-trunk' '--with-modules' '--with-unicode-internal' 
'--with-ncurses' '--with-xpm' '--with-png' '--with-jpeg' '--with-gif' 
'--with-sound=native' '--with-debug' '--with-database' '--with-xft' 
'--with-gnome' '--without-xaw' '--without-Xaw' 
'--with-ldflags=-L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib 
-flto -g -O2' '--with-dynamic' '--with-gcc' '--with-cflags=-flto -g -O2' 
'--with-cflags-optimization=-O2 -flto -g' '--with-xface' 
'--with-dialogs=gtk' '--with-scrollbars=gtk' '--with-menubars=gtk' 
'--with-tiff' '--with-gpm' 'CC=/usr/bin/gcc-13' 'CXX=/usr/bin/g++-13'



Avant de compiler j'ai bien évidemment fait sous root aptitude build-dep 
xemacs21


La compilation échoue de manière reproductible avec basilest@pcbasile 
/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35

 % make
cd ./lib-src && make  all
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/lib-src'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/lib-src'
cd ./lwlib && make  all
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/lwlib'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/lwlib'
cd ./src && make  all
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src'
if test -f dump-size ; then \
    /usr/bin/gcc-13 -c -Wall -Wno-switch -Wundef -Wsign-compare 
-Wno-char-subscripts -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wdeclaration-after-statement  
-Wunused-parameter -g -O2 -flto -g -flto -g -O2  -Demacs -I. 
-I/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -DMAX_SIZE=`cat 
dump-size` /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/dump-data.c ;\

else \
    /usr/bin/gcc-13 -c -Wall -Wno-switch -Wundef -Wsign-compare 
-Wno-char-subscripts -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wdeclaration-after-statement  
-Wunused-parameter -g -O2 -flto -g -flto -g -O2  -Demacs -I. 
-I/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -DMAX_SIZE=0 
/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/dump-data.c ;\

fi
/usr/bin/gcc-13 -Wall -Wno-switch -Wundef -Wsign-compare 
-Wno-char-subscripts -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wdeclaration-after-statement  
-Wunused-parameter -g -O2 -flto -g -flto -g -O2  -lXft 
-Wl,-export-dynamic -no-pie -o temacs abbrev.o alloc.o alloca.o array.o 
balloon_help.o balloon-x.o blocktype.o buffer.o bytecode.o callint.o 
casefiddle.o casetab.o chartab.o filelock.o cmdloop.o cmds.o  console.o 
console-stream.o data.o database.o debug.o tests.o device.o dired.o 
doc.o doprnt.o editfns.o elhash.o emacs.o emodules.o eval.o events.o 
event-stream.o event-unixoid.o dumper.o input-method-xlib.o inline.o 
linuxplay.o miscplay.o terminfo.o extents.o faces.o file-coding.o 
fileio.o  filemode.o floatfns.o fns.o font-lock.o frame.o gc.o general.o 
glyphs.o glyphs-eimage.o glyphs-shared.o glyphs-widget.o gpmevent.o   
gui.o menubar.o scrollbar.o dialog.o toolbar.o gutter.o imgproc.o 
indent.o insdel.o intl.o keymap.o line-number.o  lread.o lstream.o 
macros.o marker.o md5.o minibuf.o   mule-ccl.o mule-charset.o 
mule-coding.o  mule-wnnfns.o number-gmp.o number.o fontcolor.o opaque.o  
print.o process.o process-unix.o profile.o rangetab.o realpath.o 
redisplay.o redisplay-output.o regex.o search.o select.o sequence.o 
sysdll.o signal.o sound.o specifier.o strftime.o  symbols.o syntax.o 
sysdep.o text.o tls.o  console-tty.o device-tty.o event-tty.o 
frame-tty.o fontcolor-tty.o redisplay-tty.o cm.o undo.o unicode.o 
console-x.o device-x.o event-Xt.o frame-x.o glyphs-x.o fontcolor-x.o 
redisplay-x.o select-x.o gccache-x.o intl-x.o font-mgr.o gui-x.o 
menubar-x.o scrollbar-x.o dialog-x.o toolbar-x.o toolbar-xlike.o 
widget.o window.o  lastfile.o EmacsFrame.o EmacsShell.o 
TopLevelEmacsShell.o TransientEmacsShell.o EmacsManager.o    dump-id.o 
dump-data.o ../lwlib/liblw.a  -lwnn -ltiff -lpng -ljpeg -lz -lgif 
-lcompface -lXpm -lXft -lfontconfig -lXrender -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 
-lSM -lICE -lgmp -ldb -lgpm -lncurses -ltinfo -lcrypt -lm

lto-wrapper: warning: using serial compilation of 79 LTRANS jobs
lto-wrapper: note: see the '-flto' option documentation for more information
faces.c: In function 'ensure_face_cachel_contains_charset':
faces.c:1231:43: warning: writing 1 byte into a region of size 0 
[-Wstringop-overflow=]

 1231 |   Stynarr_at (cachel-

Re: Paste text from terminal to xemacs

2018-02-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I'm using XEmacs 21.4.24 and gnome-terminal 3.26.2 in sid. And I can't copy
> a text from the terminal and paste it into XEmacs. I have tried marking the
> text and then middle button; Shift-Ctrl-C and then right-button to get the
> 'paste' option; and some other combinations of these. Nothing works.

I'm not sure I understand your setup (is your emacs running inside the
gnome-terminal?  From where to where are you copy?).

But at least you can copy from/to (non-X)Emacs running in
a terminal by installing the `xclip` package via `M-x list-packages`
and enabling `xclip-mode`.  This of course also requires the `xclip`
executable to be installed, but after that C-y and C-w "just work".


Stefan



Re: Paste text from terminal to xemacs

2018-02-08 Thread songbird
Victor Munoz wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>>   xclip?
>
> It does help! Didn't know that. Combining it with inserting shell command
> ouput ('xclip -o" in this case) in xemacs, does exactly what I need. Thanks
> for the workaround!

  y.w.  glad it worked.  :)


  songbird



Re: Paste text from terminal to xemacs

2018-02-07 Thread Victor Munoz
>
> - Forwarded message from songbird <songb...@anthive.com> -
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:56:23 -0500
> From: songbird <songb...@anthive.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>
> Victor Munoz wrote:
>
> >  Hello.
> >
> > I'm using XEmacs 21.4.24 and gnome-terminal 3.26.2 in sid. And I can't
> copy
> > a text from the terminal and paste it into XEmacs. I have tried marking
> the
> > text and then middle button; Shift-Ctrl-C and then right-button to get
> the
> > 'paste' option; and some other combinations of these. Nothing works.
> ...
> > Any ideas I should try?
>
>   xclip?
>

It does help! Didn't know that. Combining it with inserting shell command
ouput ('xclip -o" in this case) in xemacs, does exactly what I need. Thanks
for the workaround!

Victor


Re: debian 9.1 dpkg error when installing xemacs and erlang

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 04:19:24PM +0200, Rémy Noulin wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> After running:
> apt-get install emacs25-el
> 
> I get another error:
> 
> While compiling erlang-edoc-xml-context in file
> /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erlang-edoc.el:
>   !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "xmltok"))
> 
> According to apt-file, xmltok is in emacs25-el and should be already
> installed:
> 
> emacs25-common: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/nxml/xmltok.elc
> emacs25-el: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/nxml/xmltok.el.gz
> 
> Cheers,
> Remy
> 
What about emacs25-common?

Mark



Re: debian 9.1 dpkg error when installing xemacs and erlang

2017-08-11 Thread Rémy Noulin
Hi Mark,
After running:
apt-get install emacs25-el

I get another error:

While compiling erlang-edoc-xml-context in file
/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erlang-edoc.el:
  !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "xmltok"))

According to apt-file, xmltok is in emacs25-el and should be already
installed:

emacs25-common: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/nxml/xmltok.elc
emacs25-el: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/nxml/xmltok.el.gz

Cheers,
Remy


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Mark Fletcher <mark2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 06:37:41PM +0200, Rémy Noulin wrote:
> > On a freshly installed debian 9.1, apt-get fails to install xemacs due to
> > some compilation related to erlang, here is the interesting part of log:
> >
> > Compiling /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erldoc.el...
> > While compiling toplevel forms in file
> > /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erldoc.el:
> >   !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "cl-lib"))
> > >>Error occurred processing erldoc.el: Cannot open load file: cl-lib
> >
> > Compiling /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/path.el...
> > Wrote /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/path.elc
> > Done
> > ERROR: install script from erlang-mode package failed
> > dpkg: error processing package xemacs21-mule (--configure):
> >  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
> status 1
> > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xemacs21:
> >  xemacs21 depends on xemacs21-mule (>= 21.4.24-4) |
> xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn
> > (>= 21.4.24-4) | xemacs21-nomule (>= 21.4.24-4); however:
> >   Package xemacs21-mule is not configured yet.
> >   Package xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn is not installed.
> >   Package xemacs21-nomule is not installed.
> >
> > dpkg: error processing package xemacs21 (--configure):
> >  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >  xemacs21-mule
> >  xemacs21
> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> >
>
> OK so it looks like it can't complete the build because the cl-lib
> component it needs is missing.
>
> A good guess would be that this file is in another package that isn't
> installed, that the package for xemacs assumes will be installed but
> which isn't in its dependencies. That would arguably be a bug, but even
> if it is a bug that doesn't help you much, you still need to navigate
> out of the situation you are in.
>
> So here's how to determine where that cl-lib component is:
>
> 1. Install apt-file if you don't have it already.
> 2. sudo apt-file update
> <you'll get a bunch of irrelevant output and it will take a minute or two>
> 3. apt-file search cl-lib
>
> On my system the 3rd command produces:
>
> aolserver4-doc: /usr/share/doc/aolserver4-doc/
> html/devel/tcl/tcl-libraries.html
> emacs24-common: /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.elc
> emacs24-el: /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.el.gz
> emacs25-common: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.elc
> emacs25-el: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.el.gz
> maxima-src: /usr/share/maxima/5.38.1/src/numerical/f2cl-lib.lisp
>
> aolserver4-doc and maxima-src are probably red herrings. You need one or
> more of emacs2{4,5}-{common,el} installed. I _think_ you are going to
> want to go either with the -24 or -25 series, not both, and if you held
> a gun to my head I would say it's probably the -el package rather than
> the -common package that you need, but that could easily be wrong. See
> which ones are not already installed on your system -- something that's
> already there isn't the missing package! :)
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Mark
>
>


Re: debian 9.1 dpkg error when installing xemacs and erlang

2017-08-10 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 06:37:41PM +0200, Rémy Noulin wrote:
> On a freshly installed debian 9.1, apt-get fails to install xemacs due to
> some compilation related to erlang, here is the interesting part of log:
> 
> Compiling /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erldoc.el...
> While compiling toplevel forms in file
> /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erldoc.el:
>   !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "cl-lib"))
> >>Error occurred processing erldoc.el: Cannot open load file: cl-lib
> 
> Compiling /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/path.el...
> Wrote /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/path.elc
> Done
> ERROR: install script from erlang-mode package failed
> dpkg: error processing package xemacs21-mule (--configure):
>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xemacs21:
>  xemacs21 depends on xemacs21-mule (>= 21.4.24-4) | xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn
> (>= 21.4.24-4) | xemacs21-nomule (>= 21.4.24-4); however:
>   Package xemacs21-mule is not configured yet.
>   Package xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn is not installed.
>   Package xemacs21-nomule is not installed.
> 
> dpkg: error processing package xemacs21 (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  xemacs21-mule
>  xemacs21
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 

OK so it looks like it can't complete the build because the cl-lib 
component it needs is missing. 

A good guess would be that this file is in another package that isn't 
installed, that the package for xemacs assumes will be installed but 
which isn't in its dependencies. That would arguably be a bug, but even 
if it is a bug that doesn't help you much, you still need to navigate 
out of the situation you are in.

So here's how to determine where that cl-lib component is:

1. Install apt-file if you don't have it already.
2. sudo apt-file update
<you'll get a bunch of irrelevant output and it will take a minute or two>
3. apt-file search cl-lib

On my system the 3rd command produces:

aolserver4-doc: /usr/share/doc/aolserver4-doc/html/devel/tcl/tcl-libraries.html
emacs24-common: /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.elc
emacs24-el: /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.el.gz
emacs25-common: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.elc
emacs25-el: /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib.el.gz
maxima-src: /usr/share/maxima/5.38.1/src/numerical/f2cl-lib.lisp

aolserver4-doc and maxima-src are probably red herrings. You need one or 
more of emacs2{4,5}-{common,el} installed. I _think_ you are going to 
want to go either with the -24 or -25 series, not both, and if you held 
a gun to my head I would say it's probably the -el package rather than 
the -common package that you need, but that could easily be wrong. See 
which ones are not already installed on your system -- something that's 
already there isn't the missing package! :)

Hope that helps.

Mark



debian 9.1 dpkg error when installing xemacs and erlang

2017-08-10 Thread Rémy Noulin
On a freshly installed debian 9.1, apt-get fails to install xemacs due to
some compilation related to erlang, here is the interesting part of log:

Compiling /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erldoc.el...
While compiling toplevel forms in file
/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/erldoc.el:
  !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "cl-lib"))
>>Error occurred processing erldoc.el: Cannot open load file: cl-lib

Compiling /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/path.el...
Wrote /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/erlang/path.elc
Done
ERROR: install script from erlang-mode package failed
dpkg: error processing package xemacs21-mule (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xemacs21:
 xemacs21 depends on xemacs21-mule (>= 21.4.24-4) | xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn
(>= 21.4.24-4) | xemacs21-nomule (>= 21.4.24-4); however:
  Package xemacs21-mule is not configured yet.
  Package xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn is not installed.
  Package xemacs21-nomule is not installed.

dpkg: error processing package xemacs21 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xemacs21-mule
 xemacs21
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


Cheers
Remy


bbdb, xemacs-nomule, squeeze

2011-02-10 Thread Andreas Goesele
Hi,

upgrading to squeeze I suddenly found myself with xemacs21-mule. Purging
(!) all of xemacs21 and reinstalling xemacs21-nomule I managed to get
back to xemacs21-nomule.

But now I have a problem with bbdb: Reading any email I get the error
message No such coding system utf-8 as bbdb is trying to encode names
with utf-8. (See trace below.)

Looking at bbdb.el I find:

(defun bbdb-name-normalize (name)
  Return normalized NAME.
NAME is converted to lower case and in a MULE enabled Emacs it is converted to
UTF-8 or unibyte to unify the overlapping ISO-8859-* encodings.
You may advice this function to allow more sophisticated normalizations.
  (when name.
(setq name (downcase name))
(cond ((functionp 'encode-coding-string)
   (funcall 'encode-coding-string name 'utf-8))
  ((functionp 'string-make-unibyte)
   (funcall 'string-make-unibyte name))
  (t
   name

But this means that my Xemacs-nomule works like a MULE enabled Emacs!

As a workaround I changed that function, but the real solution would be
to get xemacs-nomule not to assume to be MULE enabled! (As a matter of
fact, starting up xemacs, I now always get the warning X-Symbol: cannot
deduce default encoding, I'll assume `iso-8859-1'. I guess that's also
some MULE-related error message which in xemacs-nomule doesn't make much
sense.)

Any hints how I can get rid of those MULE-traces in my xemacs-nomule?

Thanks a lot in advance

Andreas Gösele

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error No such coding system utf-8)
  encode-coding-region(1 19 utf-8)
  encode-coding-string(john doe utf-8)
  bbdb-name-normalize(John Doe)
  bbdb-name=(John Doe John Doe)
  bbdb-annotate-message-sender((John Doe joh.doe@some.where) t prompt 
bbdb-prompt-for-create)
  byte-code(... [matches records record net rest-of-nets done annotating 
bbdb-annotate-message-sender t bbdb-prompt-for-create searching ^ 
regexp-quote $ nil bbdb-search-invert-p 6 string-match  q 0 5 format Hit 
C-g to stop BBDB from %s.  %d of %d addresses processed. featurep xemacs 
bbdb-display-message progress message sit-for processed-addresses bbdb-address 
bbdb-update-records-mode invert mess auto-create-p bbdb-offer-to-create 
bbdb-case-fold-search offer-to-create bbdb-records case-fold-search hits 
bbdb-silent-running bbdb-gag-messages addrslen] 7)
  bbdb-update-records(((authors From (John Doe joh.doe@some.where))) 
prompt nil)
  bbdb/gnus-update-records(nil)
  bbdb/gnus-pop-up-bbdb-buffer()
  run-hooks(bbdb/gnus-pop-up-bbdb-buffer)
  apply(run-hooks bbdb/gnus-pop-up-bbdb-buffer)
  gnus-run-hooks(gnus-article-prepare-hook)
  gnus-article-prepare-display()
  gnus-article-prepare(45574 nil)
  gnus-summary-display-article(45574 nil)
  gnus-summary-select-article(nil nil pseudo)
  gnus-summary-scroll-up(1)
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-scroll-up)

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Re: convert \u markup codes for xemacs

2011-01-13 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:53:53 +, Russell L. Harris wrote:

(...)
 
 Is there a facility within Emacs to do the conversion? or perhaps a
 stand-alone utility?
 
 Is there a tutorial which explains all this?

Maybe this helps:

Q1.8.8: Does XEmacs support Unicode?
http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/xemacs-faq_2.html#SEC72

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Re: convert \u markup codes for xemacs

2011-01-13 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Camaleón noela...@gmail.com [110113 15:21]:
 On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:53:53 +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 
 (...)
  
  Is there a facility within Emacs to do the conversion? or perhaps a
  stand-alone utility?
  
  Is there a tutorial which explains all this?
 
 Maybe this helps:
 
 Q1.8.8: Does XEmacs support Unicode?
 http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/xemacs-faq_2.html#SEC72

Yes, that helps; thanks Camaleón.

After a little searching, I concluded that the problem was unicode.
Then I discovered the Debian package uni2ascii, which helps -- but
still leaves me with some coding to convert with search-and-replace.

I have been installing the NOMULE version of XEmacs.

RLH


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convert \u markup codes for xemacs

2011-01-12 Thread Russell L. Harris
I occasionally need to use XEmacs and LaTeX to edit and format
documents which have \u punctuation markup codes such as the
following:

\u2018Denmark\u2019
\u20ac450 billion
Ireland\u2019s 

In case locale has anything to do with this problem, the respose to
the locale command is en_US; I do not recall which of the en_US
locales was selected when the system (Etch) was installed.

Sometimes I am able to solve the problem by loading a document into
gedit or openoffice-writer, and then copying it into XEmacs.

Is there a facility within Emacs to do the conversion? or perhaps a
stand-alone utility?

Is there a tutorial which explains all this?

RLH


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xemacs crash caused by near-simultaneous keystrokes

2009-10-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
On a recent Debian Lenny installation on an amd64 system, Xemacs
crashes constantly.

The crashes appear to be caused by the near-simultaneous pressing of
two keys.  I am able to avoid crashing Xemacs only if I type very
slowly and carefully so as to hit only one key at a time.

This is not a problem on an i386 system running Etch.  The amd64 is
the only machine I have running Lenny.  I never have run Etch on the
amd64 machine.  

RLH


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Re: Re: Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-18 Thread Maria McKinley

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:10:17AM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, 
I  get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect 
something  in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...


thanks,
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Try installing python-mode

Bob Parnes
Thanks, unfortunately it didn't help. I tried from another users  
account, and same outcome, so I think I may have been wrong about it  
being a user config problem. Here are the xemacs packages I am using, as  
well as the auctex, in case that is helpful.


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep xemacs
ii  xemacs21 21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
text editor
ii  xemacs21-basesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and 
kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
ii  xemacs21-bin 21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
text editor -- support b
ii  xemacs21-mule21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
text editor -- Mule bina
ii  xemacs21-mulesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and 
kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
ii  xemacs21-support 21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
text editor -- architect


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep auctex
ii  auctex   11.83-7.3   integrated document 
editing environment for



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My mind was running in the wrong channel when I suggested python-mode.

I use emacs21, and C-c C-c on a latex file does work. Out of curiosity
I installed xemacs-nomule, which also works on my system. The only thing
that I could see different from your installation is that the latest version
of xemacs 21 in lenny is 21.4.21-4. So you might try updating. You do have
the latest version of auctex. I doubt that the problem is your configuration,
unless somehow you managed to undefine C-c C-c.

Sorry I offered the wrong advice earlier.

Bob Parnes


No problem. Updating to latest version didn't help, so I think I must 
have managed to undefine C-c C-c somehow. No idea how I would have done 
that, or how to get it back. I tried getting rid of my config files to 
see if that would help, but no joy.


~maria


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Re: Re: Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-18 Thread Bob Parnes
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:18:31AM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
 Bob Parnes wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:10:17AM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
 Bob Parnes wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
 I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c 
 C-c, I  get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I 
 suspect something  in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look 
 for...

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 Try installing python-mode

 Bob Parnes
 Thanks, unfortunately it didn't help. I tried from another users   
 account, and same outcome, so I think I may have been wrong about it  
 being a user config problem. Here are the xemacs packages I am using, 
 as  well as the auctex, in case that is helpful.

 miles:~# dpkg -l |grep xemacs
 ii  xemacs21 21.4.19-2   highly 
 customizable text editor
 ii  xemacs21-basesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and  
 kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
 ii  xemacs21-bin 21.4.19-2   highly 
 customizable text editor -- support b
 ii  xemacs21-mule21.4.19-2   highly 
 customizable text editor -- Mule bina
 ii  xemacs21-mulesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and  
 kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
 ii  xemacs21-support 21.4.19-2   highly 
 customizable text editor -- architect

 miles:~# dpkg -l |grep auctex
 ii  auctex   11.83-7.3   integrated 
 document editing environment for


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 My mind was running in the wrong channel when I suggested python-mode.

 I use emacs21, and C-c C-c on a latex file does work. Out of curiosity
 I installed xemacs-nomule, which also works on my system. The only thing
 that I could see different from your installation is that the latest version
 of xemacs 21 in lenny is 21.4.21-4. So you might try updating. You do have
 the latest version of auctex. I doubt that the problem is your configuration,
 unless somehow you managed to undefine C-c C-c.

 Sorry I offered the wrong advice earlier.

 Bob Parnes

 No problem. Updating to latest version didn't help, so I think I must  
 have managed to undefine C-c C-c somehow. No idea how I would have done  
 that, or how to get it back. I tried getting rid of my config files to  
 see if that would help, but no joy.

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According to the auctex manual, C-c C-c is a shortcut to the command
TeX-command-master. If M-x TeX-command-master works, you could
assign the command to C-c C-c in the configuration file. If it does
not work, check whether xemacs is in LaTeX mode when you open a .tex
file. If it is in LaTeX mode, then I am stumped. If not, I don't recall
how to bring up minor modes, but the emacs manual should help. If it 
does not, let me know and I'll try to find out.

Bob Parnes


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Re: Re: Re: Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-18 Thread Maria McKinley

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:18:31AM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:10:17AM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c 
C-c, I  get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I 
suspect something  in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look 
for...


thanks,
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Try installing python-mode

Bob Parnes
Thanks, unfortunately it didn't help. I tried from another users   
account, and same outcome, so I think I may have been wrong about it  
being a user config problem. Here are the xemacs packages I am using, 
as  well as the auctex, in case that is helpful.


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep xemacs
ii  xemacs21 21.4.19-2   highly 
customizable text editor
ii  xemacs21-basesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and  
kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
ii  xemacs21-bin 21.4.19-2   highly 
customizable text editor -- support b
ii  xemacs21-mule21.4.19-2   highly 
customizable text editor -- Mule bina
ii  xemacs21-mulesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and  
kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
ii  xemacs21-support 21.4.19-2   highly 
customizable text editor -- architect


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep auctex
ii  auctex   11.83-7.3   integrated 
document editing environment for



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My mind was running in the wrong channel when I suggested python-mode.

I use emacs21, and C-c C-c on a latex file does work. Out of curiosity
I installed xemacs-nomule, which also works on my system. The only thing
that I could see different from your installation is that the latest version
of xemacs 21 in lenny is 21.4.21-4. So you might try updating. You do have
the latest version of auctex. I doubt that the problem is your configuration,
unless somehow you managed to undefine C-c C-c.

Sorry I offered the wrong advice earlier.

Bob Parnes
No problem. Updating to latest version didn't help, so I think I must  
have managed to undefine C-c C-c somehow. No idea how I would have done  
that, or how to get it back. I tried getting rid of my config files to  
see if that would help, but no joy.


~maria


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According to the auctex manual, C-c C-c is a shortcut to the command
TeX-command-master. If M-x TeX-command-master works, you could
assign the command to C-c C-c in the configuration file. If it does
not work, check whether xemacs is in LaTeX mode when you open a .tex
file. If it is in LaTeX mode, then I am stumped. If not, I don't recall
how to bring up minor modes, but the emacs manual should help. If it 
does not, let me know and I'll try to find out.


Bob Parnes


Reading the manual, how quaint. ;-) So,the manual said:
   For GNU Emacs, the recommended way to activate AUCTeX is to add the
following line to your `.emacs' file:

 (require 'tex-site)

And, this did the trick! Thanks for your help (and for not immediately 
yelling rtfm), and my apologies for not thinking to look at the manual 
in the first place. It had always just happened automagically for me 
before, so figured something was actually wrong. Apparently this line 
was not necessary in .emacs before, as I don't think I've done anything 
to my .emacs, and it use to work just fine.


cheers,
maria


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Re: Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-17 Thread Bob Parnes
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:10:17AM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
 Bob Parnes wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
 I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, 
 I  get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect 
 something  in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...

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 Try installing python-mode

 Bob Parnes

 Thanks, unfortunately it didn't help. I tried from another users  
 account, and same outcome, so I think I may have been wrong about it  
 being a user config problem. Here are the xemacs packages I am using, as  
 well as the auctex, in case that is helpful.

 miles:~# dpkg -l |grep xemacs
 ii  xemacs21 21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
 text editor
 ii  xemacs21-basesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and 
 kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
 ii  xemacs21-bin 21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
 text editor -- support b
 ii  xemacs21-mule21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
 text editor -- Mule bina
 ii  xemacs21-mulesupport 2007.04.27-1   Editor and 
 kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
 ii  xemacs21-support 21.4.19-2   highly customizable 
 text editor -- architect

 miles:~# dpkg -l |grep auctex
 ii  auctex   11.83-7.3   integrated document 
 editing environment for


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My mind was running in the wrong channel when I suggested python-mode.

I use emacs21, and C-c C-c on a latex file does work. Out of curiosity
I installed xemacs-nomule, which also works on my system. The only thing
that I could see different from your installation is that the latest version
of xemacs 21 in lenny is 21.4.21-4. So you might try updating. You do have
the latest version of auctex. I doubt that the problem is your configuration,
unless somehow you managed to undefine C-c C-c.

Sorry I offered the wrong advice earlier.

Bob Parnes


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Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-16 Thread Bob Parnes
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 I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, I  
 get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect something  
 in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...

 thanks,
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Re: Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-16 Thread Maria McKinley

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, I  
get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect something  
in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...


thanks,
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Try installing python-mode

Bob Parnes


Thanks, unfortunately it didn't help. I tried from another users 
account, and same outcome, so I think I may have been wrong about it 
being a user config problem. Here are the xemacs packages I am using, as 
well as the auctex, in case that is helpful.


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep xemacs
ii  xemacs21 21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor
ii  xemacs21-basesupport 2007.04.27-1 
  Editor and kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
ii  xemacs21-bin 21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor -- support b
ii  xemacs21-mule21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor -- Mule bina
ii  xemacs21-mulesupport 2007.04.27-1 
  Editor and kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
ii  xemacs21-support 21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor -- architect


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep auctex
ii  auctex   11.83-7.3 
  integrated document editing environment for



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xemacs and auctex

2009-06-15 Thread Maria McKinley
I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, I 
get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect something 
in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...


thanks,
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HOWTO Make XEmacs switch to buffer

2009-04-14 Thread Jeff Chimene

Hi,

This used to be not a problem. Since some upgrade, XEmacs (testing) no 
longer switches to the first non-scratch buffer.


Would someone please provide the incantation that I can add to my init 
file that switches to the first non-scratch buffer?



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Re: xemacs flickers

2009-03-06 Thread Arthur Marsh

Peter Robinson wrote, on 2009-02-20 08:47:

Hi all,

I  have xemacs21 installed on a the following system (PC)


deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main


After using xemacs for several minutes, the menu bar begins to flicker 
and xemacs uses up about 50% of the CPU time in top. I have found 
several mentions of similar problems in google from around 2003 but saw 
now solution. What is going on?


I cannot imagine life without the one true editor...

cheers Peter


No solution, but what video card/driver are you using, and have you 
reported your problem via reportbug? If so, what is the bug number?



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xemacs flickers

2009-02-19 Thread Peter Robinson

Hi all,

I  have xemacs21 installed on a the following system (PC)


deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main


After using xemacs for several minutes, the menu bar begins to flicker 
and xemacs uses up about 50% of the CPU time in top. I have found 
several mentions of similar problems in google from around 2003 but saw 
now solution. What is going on?


I cannot imagine life without the one true editor...

cheers Peter


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Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Arnaud Delobelle


On 17 Jan 2009, at 00:06, Frédéric Baldit wrote:


Bonjour,
je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il
était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En  
fait

xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas)
mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion
automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je  
suis un

peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance.
   F.B.


Je n'utilise pas Xemacs mais il est sensé être fourni avec auctex  
inclu par défaut. Que se passe-t-il si tu tapes C-c C-e depuis un  
buffer en latex-mode?


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Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Jacques L'helgoualc'h
Frédéric Baldit a écrit, samedi 17 janvier 2009, à 01:06 :
 Bonjour,

bonjour,

 je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il
 était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En fait
 xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas)
 mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion

Quand AUCTeX est activé, c'est le LaTeX-mode. Que dit

 M-x apropos RET latex-mode RET

?

Chez moi©, mais avec Emacs, c'est

,
| LaTeX-mode
|   Command: Major mode in AUCTeX for editing LaTeX files.
| LaTeX-mode-hook
[...]
| latex-mode
|   Command: Major mode in AUCTeX for editing LaTeX files.
|   Plist: tex-saved autoload
`

où l'on voit que le  latex-mode standard est remplacé par celui d'AUCTeX
(cf.  /etc/emacs21/site-start.d/50auctex.el).  Pour Xemacs, je ne sais
pas...

 automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je suis un
 peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance.

Voir peut-être du côté de news:fr.comp.applications.emacs ?
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Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Bonjour,
pour répondre à la question: que ce passe-t-il lorsque je tape C-c
C-e? lorsque je suis en latex-mode, il se passe, si je suis aprés un
begin{document}, qu'il insère un \end{{document}, idem pour tout les
autres environnements. Si je ne suis pas aprés un \begin il me jette.
Par contre C-c C-s (pour insérer un titre, je crois) ne marche pas. Je
crois aussi qu'il y a une indentation automatique dans ce mode, et je ne
la vois pas. Je croyais aussi qu'Auctex rajoutais un menu dans la barre
des menus, et il n' a rien. En revanche, quand je lance emacs (pas
xemacs) il semble que auctex est bien actif. Enfin j'ai lu quelque part
que le mode auctex de xemacs est fourni maintenant dans xemacs lui-même,
mais qu'il est un peu moins performant que le paquet qu'on peut
récupérer sur le site de xemacs. Dans tout ca je suis un peu (ou
beaucoup) perdu...
Merci pour toute aide.
F.B.
PS: je me suis réinscrit sur la liste debian-user-french mais je croyais
que j'allais recevoir un avis d'inscription sur mon adresse
electronique, et que je communiquerai via email avec la liste. Or je
n'ai rien recu dans ma boite aux lettres, c'est en continuant ma
recherche sur google ce matin que je vois qu'une personne m'a répondu.
Là ausssi je suis perplexe...

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Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Bonjour,
pour répondre à Jacques L'helgouach, voici le résultat de la commande
qu'il m'indique:


japanese-latex-mode
  Command: (not documented)
latex-mode
  Command: Major mode for editing files of input for LaTeX.
  Plist: 1 property (autoload)
latex-mode-hook
  Variable: Hook to run when entering latex-mode.
  Plist: 1 property (variable-documentation)

Ce qui semble bien indiquer qu'auctex n'est pas actif.

F.B.

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Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Jacques L'helgoualc'h
Frédéric Baldit a écrit, samedi 17 janvier 2009, à 11:24 :
 Bonjour,
 pour répondre à Jacques L'helgouach, voici le résultat de la commande
 qu'il m'indique:
 
 japanese-latex-mode
   Command: (not documented)
 latex-mode
   Command: Major mode for editing files of input for LaTeX.
   Plist: 1 property (autoload)
 latex-mode-hook
   Variable: Hook to run when entering latex-mode.
   Plist: 1 property (variable-documentation)
 
 Ce qui semble bien indiquer qu'auctex n'est pas actif.

Oui :/

Est-ce qu'une ligne

(require 'tex-site)

dans ~/.xemacs change quelque chose ?
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Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread pascatgm
Frédéric Baldit a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il
 était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En fait
 xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas)
 mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion
 automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je suis un
 peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance.
 F.B.

   
A tout hasard dans .xemacs/init.el j'avais mis ça (mais maintenant je me
sers plutôt d'Emacs)

(require 'tex-site) ;lance Auc-TeX
;trouve ds le fichier info d'auctex:
(setq TeX-auto-save t)
 (setq TeX-parse-self t)
 (setq-default TeX-master nil)
; fin du fich info
(setq LaTeX-section-hook;prompte pour tout ce qui concerne le
sectionnement
'(LaTeX-section-heading
  LaTeX-section-title
  LaTeX-section-toc
  LaTeX-section-section
  LaTeX-section-label))
(setq-default TeX-master nil)   ;prompt pour le fichier-maitre
;lance RefTex avec Aux-TeX :
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-reftex)
;pour accélerer RefTeX:
(setq reftex-enable-partial-scans t)
(setq reftex-save-parse-info t)
(setq reftex-use-multiple-selection-buffers t)
(setq reftex-plug-into-AUCTeX t)
; lance preview-latex
(load preview-latex.el nil t t)


Hopezishelps

Pascal

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Re: Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Oui!!
Merci, le fait de rajouter (require 'tex-site) dans mon
fichier .custom.el semble faire fonctionner auctex. Je dois le tester
plus avant pour voir ce que ça donne, mais ça semble marcher.
Merci pour l'aide.
Cordialement,
F.B.

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Re: activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-17 Thread Arnaud Delobelle


On 17 Jan 2009, at 10:16, Frédéric Baldit wrote:


Bonjour,
pour répondre à la question: que ce passe-t-il lorsque je tape C-c
C-e? lorsque je suis en latex-mode, il se passe, si je suis aprés un
begin{document}, qu'il insère un \end{{document}, idem pour tout les
autres environnements.


Donc auctex n'est pas chargé.  Est-ce qu'ajouter la ligne

(require 'tex-site)

à ton ~/.emacs résoud le problème?

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activer auctex sous xemacs

2009-01-16 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Bonjour,
je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il
était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En fait
xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas)
mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion
automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je suis un
peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance.
F.B.

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Re: Xemacs en lenny

2008-06-23 Thread Agustin Martin
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:19:40PM -0300, Matías A. Bellone wrote:
 Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:
 Hola, me acabo de reinstalar debian testing y los paquetes de xemacs21
 no aparecen bueno si pero son estos:
 p   xemacs21-basesupport
 p   xemacs21-basesupport-el
 p   xemacs21-mulesupport
 p   xemacs21-mulesupport-el


 Fíjate que en lenny (testing) ya está emacs22, por eso no encuentras  
 emacs21.


 En cuanto a xemacs, al menos las veriones de emacs22, el mismo paquete  
 emacs22 es el xemacs y tienes que instalar emacs22-nox si sólo quieres  
 la versión de consola (que se consigue ejecutando la versión para x  
 desde una consola con la opción -nw).

Ojo, no es el mismo paquete.

La nota de retirada no da muchos detalles,

http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xemacs21/news/20080309T223933Z.html

pero supongo que se ha quitado de testing por tener un bug grave
demasiado tiempo,

http://bugs.debian.org/457764

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Re: Xemacs en lenny

2008-06-23 Thread Jaume Martin Claramonte
El lun, 23-06-2008 a las 01:24 -0300, Matías A. Bellone escribió:
 Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:
  
  El 21/06/2008, a las 3:19, Matías A. Bellone escribió:
  
  Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:
  Hola, me acabo de reinstalar debian testing y los paquetes de xemacs21
  no aparecen bueno si pero son estos:
  p   xemacs21-basesupport
  p   xemacs21-basesupport-el
  p   xemacs21-mulesupport
  p   xemacs21-mulesupport-el
 
  Fíjate que en lenny (testing) ya está emacs22, por eso no encuentras 
  emacs21.
 
  En cuanto a xemacs, al menos las veriones de emacs22, el mismo paquete 
  emacs22 es el xemacs y tienes que instalar emacs22-nox si sólo quieres 
  la versión de consola (que se consigue ejecutando la versión para x 
  desde una consola con la opción -nw).
 
  Saludos,
  Toote
 
  Pero el paquete que hay es el de emacs22 no el de xemacs22.
  
 
 Justamente, lo que te dije es que xemacs no existe más. Si instalás 
 emacs22 te va a instalar por defecto emacs22-gtk que es la parte 
 gráfica; pero si no la querés necesitás instalar emacs22-nox
 
 Estuve investigando un poco más y aparentemente xemacs21 está en inestable:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xemacssearchon=names
 
Eso ya lo sabia yo cuando busque en google, me instalare el de inestable
aunque no termino de entender porque lo han quitado.

un saludo.


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Re: Xemacs en lenny

2008-06-22 Thread Jaume Martin Claramonte


El 21/06/2008, a las 3:19, Matías A. Bellone escribió:


Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:
Hola, me acabo de reinstalar debian testing y los paquetes de  
xemacs21

no aparecen bueno si pero son estos:
p   xemacs21-basesupport
p   xemacs21-basesupport-el
p   xemacs21-mulesupport
p   xemacs21-mulesupport-el


Fíjate que en lenny (testing) ya está emacs22, por eso no encuentras  
emacs21.


En cuanto a xemacs, al menos las veriones de emacs22, el mismo  
paquete emacs22 es el xemacs y tienes que instalar emacs22-nox si  
sólo quieres la versión de consola (que se consigue ejecutando la  
versión para x desde una consola con la opción -nw).


Saludos,
Toote


Pero el paquete que hay es el de emacs22 no el de xemacs22.


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Re: Xemacs en lenny

2008-06-22 Thread Matías A. Bellone

Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:


El 21/06/2008, a las 3:19, Matías A. Bellone escribió:


Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:

Hola, me acabo de reinstalar debian testing y los paquetes de xemacs21
no aparecen bueno si pero son estos:
p   xemacs21-basesupport
p   xemacs21-basesupport-el
p   xemacs21-mulesupport
p   xemacs21-mulesupport-el


Fíjate que en lenny (testing) ya está emacs22, por eso no encuentras 
emacs21.


En cuanto a xemacs, al menos las veriones de emacs22, el mismo paquete 
emacs22 es el xemacs y tienes que instalar emacs22-nox si sólo quieres 
la versión de consola (que se consigue ejecutando la versión para x 
desde una consola con la opción -nw).


Saludos,
Toote


Pero el paquete que hay es el de emacs22 no el de xemacs22.



Justamente, lo que te dije es que xemacs no existe más. Si instalás 
emacs22 te va a instalar por defecto emacs22-gtk que es la parte 
gráfica; pero si no la querés necesitás instalar emacs22-nox


Estuve investigando un poco más y aparentemente xemacs21 está en inestable:

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xemacssearchon=names

Saludos,
Toote


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Xemacs en lenny

2008-06-20 Thread Jaume Martin Claramonte
Hola, me acabo de reinstalar debian testing y los paquetes de xemacs21
no aparecen bueno si pero son estos:
p   xemacs21-basesupport
p   xemacs21-basesupport-el
p   xemacs21-mulesupport
p   xemacs21-mulesupport-el

no aparecen los binarios, he estado mirando en la lista pero no hay nada
y san google dice que hay que instalar los de unestable, ¿algien sabe
donde lo puedo conseguir? y ¿porque no esta en los repositos de debian?
también he mirado en apt-get.org pero de xemacs lo que sale es para
woody asi que tampoco me sirve.

Un saludo.


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Re: Xemacs en lenny

2008-06-20 Thread Matías A. Bellone

Jaume Martin Claramonte wrote:

Hola, me acabo de reinstalar debian testing y los paquetes de xemacs21
no aparecen bueno si pero son estos:
p   xemacs21-basesupport
p   xemacs21-basesupport-el
p   xemacs21-mulesupport
p   xemacs21-mulesupport-el



Fíjate que en lenny (testing) ya está emacs22, por eso no encuentras 
emacs21.


En cuanto a xemacs, al menos las veriones de emacs22, el mismo paquete 
emacs22 es el xemacs y tienes que instalar emacs22-nox si sólo quieres 
la versión de consola (que se consigue ejecutando la versión para x 
desde una consola con la opción -nw).


Saludos,
Toote


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Re: Disponibilité de XEmacs dans Lenny ?

2008-04-14 Thread christophe . gisquet
Bonjour,

Selon David Pr�vot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  il semblerait qu'il n'y ait plus de paquet pour ce logiciel.

 C'est ce genre d'information [1] que tu cherches ?

 [1] http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=xemacs21
[...]
  Quelqu'un peut-il m'�clairer sur la cause de cette absence?

 La lecture du rapport de dysfonctionnement [2] mentionn� dans le lien
 pr�c�dent semble explicite : � Severity: grave; Tags: security �.

 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/457764

Effectivement �a explique son indisponibilit�, alors que les autres paquets que
j'ai cit� dans mon mail pr�c�dent restaient disponibles. Je ne savais pas que la
politique de s�curit�  �tait de rendre indisponible le paquet dans ces
conditions.

J'imagine qu'il sera r�gl� d'ici au passage au statut stable de lenny.

  comment le r�installer? (repository externe? stable pr�c�dente?)

 Si le CVE-2007-6109 [3] ne te fais pas peur, tu peux ajouter Sid � ton
 source.lists et indiquer que tu pr�f�res Lenny dans /etc/apt/apt.conf ou
 /etc/apt/preferences.

 [3] http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6109

C'est, je pense un bug avec lequel je dois pouvoir vivre (il a l'air de
n�cessiter qu'on ex�cute du code dans xemacs, donc peu probable dans mon cas).
Je vais aller lire les FAQs li�es au pining et consort...

Merci pour ces renseignements.

Cordialement,
Christophe Gisquet

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Disponibilité de XEmacs dans Lenny ?

2008-04-10 Thread Christophe GISQUET
Bonjour,

il semblerait qu'il n'y ait plus de paquet pour ce logiciel. Le problème
est que j'avais jusqu'alors ignoré synaptic qui me l'indiquait comme
obsolète, mais ai finalement franchi le pas (oh, un gouffre).

Je m'étonne un peu de cet état. J'imagine que l'existence des paquets
dits support est une histoire de dépendances, mais je m'interroge plus
sur l'origine de cette disparition/absence. J'ai cru voir que xemacs
n'avait plus de maintainer (bien qu'encore présent dans sid), donc je
suppose que c'en est la cause. Mais je n'ai rien trouvé de plus probant.
Quelqu'un peut-il m'éclairer sur la cause de cette absence?

J'ignore quelle version j'utilisais avant: je ne sais même pas si xemacs
a jamais été fourni comme paquet dans Lenny. Donc 2e question: comment
le réinstaller? (repository externe? stable précédente?)

Cordialement,
Christophe

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Re: Disponibilité de XEmacs dans Lenny ?

2008-04-10 Thread David Prévot
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Christophe GISQUET a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 il semblerait qu'il n'y ait plus de paquet pour ce logiciel.

C'est ce genre d'information [1] que tu cherches ?

[1] http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=xemacs21

 Quelqu'un peut-il m'éclairer sur la cause de cette absence?

La lecture du rapport de dysfonctionnement [2] mentionné dans le lien
précédent semble explicite : « Severity: grave; Tags: security ».

[2] http://bugs.debian.org/457764

 comment le réinstaller? (repository externe? stable précédente?)

Si le CVE-2007-6109 [3] ne te fais pas peur, tu peux ajouter Sid à ton
source.lists et indiquer que tu préfères Lenny dans /etc/apt/apt.conf ou
/etc/apt/preferences.

[3] http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6109

Amicalement

David

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Re: Problemas com XEmacs-gnome

2007-06-26 Thread Sávio Ramos
Em Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:06:21 -0300
Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Eu peguei a debianização do 22.0.99+1-1 e usei o
 uupdate para debianizar a versão 22.1. Tenho ele instalado aqui no meu
 sid. Também compilei ele para etch.

Não sei o que você fez... Mas, a versão da experimental não tem suporte
ao auctex :-(( 

Removi imediatamente...

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Re: Problemas com XEmacs-gnome

2007-06-25 Thread Sávio Ramos
Em Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:16:15 -0300
Ronaldo Reis Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 eu uso o xemacs principalmente para trabalhar com o R.

Sem querer alimentar polêmicas, mas, que tal usar o emacs-snapshot-gtk?
Com certeza vai ficar mais bonitinho como você deseja sem ter os
outros problemas que você relatou.

Obs1: não se esqueça de instalar o pacote ess (emacs speak statistics)

Obs2: se você usa a Sid o pacote gtk não existe mais portanto terá que
adicionar o repositório para obtê-lo:

deb http://emacs.orebokech.com sid main

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Re: Problemas com XEmacs-gnome

2007-06-25 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Em Segunda 25 Junho 2007 14:02, Sávio Ramos escreveu:
 Em Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:16:15 -0300

 Ronaldo Reis Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  eu uso o xemacs principalmente para trabalhar com o R.

 Sem querer alimentar polêmicas, mas, que tal usar o emacs-snapshot-gtk?
 Com certeza vai ficar mais bonitinho como você deseja sem ter os
 outros problemas que você relatou.

 Obs1: não se esqueça de instalar o pacote ess (emacs speak statistics)

 Obs2: se você usa a Sid o pacote gtk não existe mais portanto terá que
 adicionar o repositório para obtê-lo:

 deb http://emacs.orebokech.com sid main

Savio,

muito massa esta versão do Emacs, sempre usei o XEmacs por achar ele mais 
fácil de fazer algumas coisas, mas com esta nova versão do Emacs já estou 
convertendo minhas configs.

Pegunta, porque esta verão não está oficialmente no Debian? Estabilidade? 
Licença?

Inte
Ronaldo
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Re: Problemas com XEmacs-gnome

2007-06-25 Thread Fabiano Manoel de Andrade

 Savio,
 
 muito massa esta versão do Emacs, sempre usei o XEmacs por achar ele mais 
 fácil de fazer algumas coisas, mas com esta nova versão do Emacs já estou 
 convertendo minhas configs.
 
 Pegunta, porque esta verão não está oficialmente no Debian? Estabilidade? 
 Licença?
 
 Inte
 Ronaldo
 -- 

Na verdade estava, mas ficou orfão esses tempos atrás. Agora ele está
na experimental e a versão é a 22.0.99+1-1. Recentemente foi lançada a
versão 22.1 do emacs. Eu peguei a debianização do 22.0.99+1-1 e usei o
uupdate para debianizar a versão 22.1. Tenho ele instalado aqui no meu
sid. Também compilei ele para etch.
Abraço.
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Problemas com XEmacs-gnome

2007-06-24 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Pessoal,

eu uso o xemacs principalmente para trabalhar com o R. Recentemente estava 
tentando melhorar um pouco sua cara, tentando tornar sua interface mais 
bonita/amigável. Aí to com algumas dúvidas:

Eu instalei o pacote xemacs-gnome, bom, a interface não melhora muito, mas o 
problema não é este, o pacote xemacs-gnome parece não ler muito bem o arquivo 
init.el do XEmacs. Digo isto pois algumas configurações não são ativadas, mas 
ao mandar ele abrir o arquivo init.el, as configurações passam a funcionar. O 
que pode estar acontecendo?

Outra perguntinha mais boba, eu instalei um pacote chamado my-toolbar.el, sua 
função é poder alterar os ícones do XEmacs por algum mais bonito de forma a 
parecer mais integrado ao KDE. Até aí tudo bem, funciona, mas quando abro um 
arquivo.R, os ícones do ESS não aparecem mais. Alguem conhece outra forma de 
alterar os ícones sem afetar outros pacotes? Existe algum sistema de temas 
para XEmacs?

Valeu
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Drag-n-drop no Xemacs

2007-05-30 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Pessoal,

alguem sabe como habilitar o drag-n-drop no xemacs? Eu procurei e achei 
algumas divagações que não consegui concretizar em funcionalidade.

Valeu
Inte
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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070527 00:00]:
 Here's the code, hope it helps!
 
 (defun extract-footnotes ()
   Copy all footnotes to a separate *FOOTNOTES* buffer
   (interactive)
   (let ((active-buffer (current-buffer)))
 (save-excursion
   (if (memq (get-buffer *FOOTNOTES*) (buffer-list))
 (kill-buffer *FOOTNOTES*))
   (transient-mark-mode -1)
   (goto-char (point-min))
   (while (search-forward \\footnote nil t)
   (goto-char (match-beginning 0))
   (push-mark)
   (search-forward e nil t)
   (forward-list)
   (append-to-buffer (get-buffer-create *FOOTNOTES*) 
 (mark) (point))
   (set-buffer *FOOTNOTES*)
   (goto-char (point-max))
   (insert \n)
   (set-buffer active-buffer)
 
The code runs in Emacs.  If I comment out the line
(transient-mark-mode -1), it also runs in XEmacs.  But in both
cases, it aborts with an unbalanced parenthesis error after finding
about ten footnotes (about 25 percent of the file, which is 105 kbytes
in length).  

RLH


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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-27 Thread Mumia W..

On 05/27/2007 12:30 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote:

On 2007-05-26, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I need to extract footnotes from a very long LaTeX document.  I would
like to start with a copy of the document, then delete from the copy
all text which is not a footnote.
[...]


Next, I decided to try to write a Perl script, and that's the point at
which I presently find myself.  



The Text::Balanced module is perfect for this. Here's how I might do it 
using that module:


use strict;
use warnings;
use Text::Balanced qw(extract_bracketed);
use Data::Dumper;

my $text = q(
  Some text.
\footnote{My \bold{nice} footnote is here.}
  More text is here.
\footnote{Second footnote \italic{\bold{i}tem}.}
  Final text.
);
$text =~ s/^ {4}//mg; # probably superfluous

# Start working on the text.

my @footnotes;
my $extracted;
while ($text =~ s/.*?(\\footnote)//s) {
($extracted, $text) = extract_bracketed($text, '{}');
push @footnotes, $1 . $extracted;
}

print Dumper([EMAIL PROTECTED]);

I know my Latex probably sucks because it's been years since I've had to 
do it, but I hope this helps.



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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-27 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-27, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 The code runs in Emacs.  If I comment out the line
 (transient-mark-mode -1), it also runs in XEmacs.  But in both
 cases, it aborts with an unbalanced parenthesis error after finding
 about ten footnotes (about 25 percent of the file, which is 105 kbytes
 in length).  


I don't actually use footnotes, so I just randomly inserted some in my
thesis to test this. However, I think it should either work or not
work, rather than work for a while then quit. You will get an
unbalanced parenthesis error if you have a missing or extra
parenthesis in one of your footnotes - I'd check with the last one
that it catches, or the one immediately following it. The forward-list
function depends on properly closed parentheses for the group it's
matching, and all the groups it contains. Of course, this is my first
suggestion, since the only other explanation is that my code is not
perfect ;)

Another thing that will break my code as written is if you have a
space (or any character) between \footnote and {. 

HTH,

Tyler


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XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
I use XEmacs as my editor.  

I need to extract footnotes from a very long LaTeX document.  I would
like to start with a copy of the document, then delete from the copy
all text which is not a footnote.

Is there a way to:

(1) set the mark

(2) search forward for the next instance of the string
\footnote, highlighting all the text between the mark and the
search target

(3) cut the highlighted text

When I try to do this, after the search I see the message Mark saved
where search started, but I see no highlighting.  When I try to cut
the text, I see the message The region is not active now.

If this procedure cannot be made to work, is there another way to
automate the process?

RLH


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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-26 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-26, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use XEmacs as my editor.  

 I need to extract footnotes from a very long LaTeX document.  I would
 like to start with a copy of the document, then delete from the copy
 all text which is not a footnote.

 Is there a way to:

 (1) set the mark

 (2) search forward for the next instance of the string
 \footnote, highlighting all the text between the mark and the
 search target

 (3) cut the highlighted text


Hi again,

prescript: I wrote out a long explanation of a hard way to do what you
want. Then I thought of the quick and easy way that follows. I've left
the long tricky bits in case they are also helpful.

The easy way:

You can use occur to extract all your footnotes to a separate buffer:

M-x occur
\\footnote{[^}]*

This will pop all your footnotes into a read-only buffer. They are
marred with line numbers, but you can yank them into a new buffer, and
then do a query-regexp-replace to clean out the line numbers. That's
probably the fastest way to do what you want.


The harder ways:

With the caveat that I'm working on GNU Emacs and not Xemacs, which we
learned yesterday can be the source of unexpected surprises, here's
one way to do what you want:

using query-replace-regexp, which for me is bound to C-M-%, enter the
following search expression:

/(.*
\)*.*\\footnote

and the replace expression:

\\footnote

The tricky part is entering the newline in the search expression. You
can't do this by pressing enter. I did it by pressing C-j, or you
might be able to use C-q enter. This will highlight everything between
the start of the search and the following \footnote, and delete
everything before the \footnote. 

What this expression doesn't do is skip over the body of the footnote
to the closing }, so subsequent searches will offer to delete the body
of the previous footnote. It's possible to include the body of the
footnote, but I don't have time just now to work out the regexp.

If you know any elisp you can automate this by writing it into a short
function, and then calling that function directly rather than calling
query-replace-regexp in each time. In GNU emacs M-p cycles backwards
through previous regexps once you're in the query-replace-regexp
minibuffer, so at least you only need to type in the expression once
if you don't write your own function.


 When I try to do this, after the search I see the message Mark saved
 where search started, but I see no highlighting.  When I try to cut
 the text, I see the message The region is not active now.

'The region is not active now' indicates you are working in
transient-mark-mode. If you turn this off the region is always active,
which might solve the problem you ran into with your approach. You can
toggle this on and off with M-x transient-mark-mode.


Anyways, some bits and pieces that might help!

Tyler


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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-26 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-26, Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2007-05-26, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to extract footnotes from a very long LaTeX document.  I would
 like to start with a copy of the document, then delete from the copy
 all text which is not a footnote.


 The easy way:

 You can use occur to extract all your footnotes to a separate buffer:

 M-x occur
 \\footnote{[^}]*


Hi,

As you may have realised, if you've tried my easy solution, it is
easily fooled when your footnotes contain other expressions that
contain curly-braces. I've worked out a more robust solution that
is harder to fool. What it does is copy all your footnotes to a
separate buffer called *FOOTNOTES*. The original document is not
altered, and point remains where you left it - you won't see any
change at all until you switch buffers. You can invoke this function
with 'M-x extract-footnotes'. 

To install the function put the following code in your .emacs, or I
suppose that would be .xemacs for you. It will be loaded automatically
the next time you open xemacs, or you can load it immediately by
placing the cursor just after the last parenthesis and hitting C-x C-e
One note - I had to turn off transient-mark-mode to get this to
work. I don't know why. If you like to use transient mark mode you'll
have to turn it back on afterwards.

Here's the code, hope it helps!

Tyler

(defun extract-footnotes ()
  Copy all footnotes to a separate *FOOTNOTES* buffer
  (interactive)
  (let ((active-buffer (current-buffer)))
(save-excursion
  (if (memq (get-buffer *FOOTNOTES*) (buffer-list))
  (kill-buffer *FOOTNOTES*))
  (transient-mark-mode -1)
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (while (search-forward \\footnote nil t)
(goto-char (match-beginning 0))
(push-mark)
(search-forward e nil t)
(forward-list)
(append-to-buffer (get-buffer-create *FOOTNOTES*) 
  (mark) (point))
(set-buffer *FOOTNOTES*)
(goto-char (point-max))
(insert \n)
(set-buffer active-buffer)


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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070527 00:00]:
 On 2007-05-26, Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 2007-05-26, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I need to extract footnotes from a very long LaTeX document.  I would
  like to start with a copy of the document, then delete from the copy
  all text which is not a footnote.
 
 
  The easy way:
 
  You can use occur to extract all your footnotes to a separate buffer:
 
  M-x occur
  \\footnote{[^}]*
 
 
 Hi,
 
 As you may have realised, if you've tried my easy solution, it is
 easily fooled when your footnotes contain other expressions that
 contain curly-braces. I've worked out a more robust solution that
 is harder to fool. What it does is copy all your footnotes to a
 separate buffer called *FOOTNOTES*. The original document is not
 altered, and point remains where you left it - you won't see any
 change at all until you switch buffers. You can invoke this function
 with 'M-x extract-footnotes'. 
 
 To install the function put the following code in your .emacs, or I
 suppose that would be .xemacs for you. It will be loaded automatically
 the next time you open xemacs, or you can load it immediately by
 placing the cursor just after the last parenthesis and hitting C-x C-e
 One note - I had to turn off transient-mark-mode to get this to
 work. I don't know why. If you like to use transient mark mode you'll
 have to turn it back on afterwards.
 
 Here's the code, hope it helps!
 
 Tyler
 
 (defun extract-footnotes ()
   Copy all footnotes to a separate *FOOTNOTES* buffer
   (interactive)
   (let ((active-buffer (current-buffer)))
 (save-excursion
   (if (memq (get-buffer *FOOTNOTES*) (buffer-list))
 (kill-buffer *FOOTNOTES*))
   (transient-mark-mode -1)
   (goto-char (point-min))
   (while (search-forward \\footnote nil t)
   (goto-char (match-beginning 0))
   (push-mark)
   (search-forward e nil t)
   (forward-list)
   (append-to-buffer (get-buffer-create *FOOTNOTES*) 
 (mark) (point))
   (set-buffer *FOOTNOTES*)
   (goto-char (point-max))
   (insert \n)
   (set-buffer active-buffer)

Thanks, Tyler.

I did discover the problem with the previous solution, because the
footnotes utilize \emph{...} and \textit{\textbf{...}}.

I looked for transient-mark-mode in XEmacs, but did not find it.  M-x
transient-mark-mode gives a no match error.

Next, I decided to try to write a Perl script, and that's the point at
which I presently find myself.  

So now I'll stop and give it a try with the code above.

I keep thinking that this should be a feature for which there is
general demand, because it is so useful.  At least it is possible to
set the mark and then execute M-, or M-. in order to highlight the
previous or remaining portion of the document.  

RLH


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Re: XEmacs - how to automate mark-search-cut

2007-05-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070527 00:00]:
...
 One note - I had to turn off transient-mark-mode to get this to
 work. I don't know why. If you like to use transient mark mode you'll
 have to turn it back on afterwards.
 
 Here's the code, hope it helps!
 
 Tyler
 
 (defun extract-footnotes ()
   Copy all footnotes to a separate *FOOTNOTES* buffer
   (interactive)
   (let ((active-buffer (current-buffer)))
 (save-excursion
   (if (memq (get-buffer *FOOTNOTES*) (buffer-list))
 (kill-buffer *FOOTNOTES*))
   (transient-mark-mode -1)
   (goto-char (point-min))
   (while (search-forward \\footnote nil t)
   (goto-char (match-beginning 0))
   (push-mark)
   (search-forward e nil t)
   (forward-list)
   (append-to-buffer (get-buffer-create *FOOTNOTES*) 
 (mark) (point))
   (set-buffer *FOOTNOTES*)
   (goto-char (point-max))
   (insert \n)
   (set-buffer active-buffer)
 

The function produces the error message:

Symbol's function definition is void:  transient-mark-mode

Perhaps I should use Emacs rather than in XEmacs for this task.

RLH


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Re: how to disable XEmacs font-lock-mode?

2007-05-18 Thread Kushal Kumaran

On 5/17/07, Ismael Valladolid Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kushal Kumaran escribe:
 The easy way:

 M-x customize-groupReturnfont-lockReturn

 See Font Lock Global Modes in that customization group.  Use it to
 turn off font-lock for perl-mode.

 Note: I've checked this out in emacs only.  Probably is the same way
 in XEmacs too.


Putting this in your .emacs should disable font-lock when editing perl
scripts:

(add-hook 'text-mode-hook
  (lambda ()
(global-font-lock-mode 't)))



I'm lost. Why should text-mode-hook affect what happens when you edit
perl scripts? Why should you need to frob global-font-lock-mode when
all you need is to toggle it for just one buffer?

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Re: how to disable XEmacs font-lock-mode?

2007-05-18 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Ismael Valladolid Torres escribe:
 (add-hook 'text-mode-hook

I meant perl-mode-hook


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Re: how to disable XEmacs font-lock-mode?

2007-05-18 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Kushal Kumaran escribe:
 I'm lost. Why should text-mode-hook affect what happens when you edit
 perl scripts? Why should you need to frob global-font-lock-mode when
 all you need is to toggle it for just one buffer?
 

You're right, I mistyped, it's perl-mode-hook.


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Re: how to disable XEmacs font-lock-mode?

2007-05-17 Thread Kushal Kumaran

On 5/16/07, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How can I disable font-lock-mode in Emacs (actually XEmacs)?

It appears that, upon seeing the first line of a Perl script:

#!/usr/bin/perl

Emacs sets font-lock-mode.

But I do not wish to use font-lock mode when working with Perl
scripts.  I am editing a number of short Perl scripts, and I do not
wish to go through the routine:

   M-x font-lock-mode

to toggle off font-lock-mode each time I load a script for editing.



The easy way:

M-x customize-groupReturnfont-lockReturn

See Font Lock Global Modes in that customization group.  Use it to
turn off font-lock for perl-mode.

Note: I've checked this out in emacs only.  Probably is the same way
in XEmacs too.

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Re: how to disable XEmacs font-lock-mode?

2007-05-17 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Kushal Kumaran escribe:
 The easy way:
 
 M-x customize-groupReturnfont-lockReturn
 
 See Font Lock Global Modes in that customization group.  Use it to
 turn off font-lock for perl-mode.
 
 Note: I've checked this out in emacs only.  Probably is the same way
 in XEmacs too.
 

Putting this in your .emacs should disable font-lock when editing perl
scripts:

(add-hook 'text-mode-hook
  (lambda ()
(global-font-lock-mode 't)))

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how to disable XEmacs font-lock-mode?

2007-05-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
How can I disable font-lock-mode in Emacs (actually XEmacs)?

It appears that, upon seeing the first line of a Perl script:

#!/usr/bin/perl

Emacs sets font-lock-mode.

But I do not wish to use font-lock mode when working with Perl
scripts.  I am editing a number of short Perl scripts, and I do not
wish to go through the routine:

   M-x font-lock-mode

to toggle off font-lock-mode each time I load a script for editing.



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xemacs auctex preview

2007-02-10 Thread pascal
Bonjour La liste

Je n'ai jamais trop utilisé le package  preview avec Auctex sous
Xemacs mais hier par curiosité j'ai essayé de le faire fonctionner sur
ma testing mais en vain.

Il semblerait qu' Xemacs vienne avec son propre package auctex mais
qu'en est-il de preview ?
Visiblement chez moi le rajout du paquet latex-preview-style n'a aucun
effet.

Quelqu'un a une explication ?

Pascal


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Re: xemacs auctex preview

2007-02-10 Thread Didier Verna
pascal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Je n'ai jamais trop utilisé le package preview avec Auctex sous Xemacs
 mais hier par curiosité j'ai essayé de le faire fonctionner sur ma testing
 mais en vain.

 Il semblerait qu' Xemacs vienne avec son propre package auctex mais qu'en
 est-il de preview ? Visiblement chez moi le rajout du paquet
 latex-preview-style n'a aucun effet.

Il ne faut pas utiliser le package AUC-TeX d'XEmacs; c'est une vieille
version. Va directement chercher le dernier package officiel upstream qui
contient AUC-TeX et preview.

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Xemacs has problems

2007-01-05 Thread Pete Klemm
Since updating Xemacs to version 21.4.19-2 I am having problems with
dired-mode.
When I open a directory the listing shows the directory contents as it
should but also
displays  //DIRED// followed by a list of numbers (which I assume
might be I-node
numbers). I can get the extra info to go away by toggling Hide All
Subdirs on then
off again.

I also occasionally have to save files twice as the first attempt only
removes the old
copy and errors out on writing the updated copy.

Searching the Xemacs sites provided no help. I also have completely
uninstalled
and reinstalled with no change.

Any help and/or guidance is appreciated.

Pete


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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-12 Thread s. keeling
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:15:54PM +, s. keeling wrote:
  Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
The package chain is as follows:

INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
[maildir]  -- mutt
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fetchmail -- procmail -- mutt
 
  So fetchmail doesn't send it through exim4?

Actually, it does, but it doesn't have to:

  from man fetchmail ...
  [..]
  If no port 25 listener is available, but your  fetchmail
  configuration was  told  about  a  reliable local MDA, it will use
  that MDA for local delivery instead.

So, if .fetchmailrc contains a line saying your MDA is procmail,
fetchmail hands it to procmail.  No MTA needed.

  An MTA is priority standard.

Yes, but not mandatory.

  A working Exim config can be very picky about a couple of lower level
  options, such as re-writing headers and hiding header re-writing.
  With those set wrong, mail will look alright until you send to a
  system that's more suspicious, and your mail will go silently into the
 
  I think I see what you are saying. Is there a command to check the
  config?

None that I know of.  My tests include sending mail to a couple of
seriously picky servers.  If it gets through them, the config is
correct.

  Is the checking not good enough? So the system that's more
  suspicious would not be exim?

The system that's more suspicious is simply more stringent about what
it considers valid mail.  Ie., IP address lookups before acceptance 
etc.  I've no idea what MTA they use, nor do I much care.  For me,
it's enough that that black box out there is authoritative.


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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:15:54PM +, s. keeling wrote:
 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
   The package chain is as follows:
   
   INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
   [maildir]  -- mutt
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fetchmail -- procmail -- mutt

So fetchmail doesn't send it through exim4?

from man fetchmail ...
[..]
As each message is retrieved fetchmail normally delivers it via SMTP
to port 25 on the machine it is running on (localhost), just as
though it were being passed in over a normal TCP/IP link.
[..]
If no port 25 listener is available, but your  fetchmail
configuration was  told  about  a  reliable local MDA, it will use
that MDA for local delivery instead.

An MTA is priority standard.

   Does getmail4 feed the mail through exim4, fetchmail does.
  
   OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt
  
   Try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
   Are you sure the smtp server is set correctly? What error messages are
   you getting in the exim4 logs?
 
 A working Exim config can be very picky about a couple of lower level
 options, such as re-writing headers and hiding header re-writing.
 With those set wrong, mail will look alright until you send to a
 system that's more suspicious, and your mail will go silently into the
 bit bucket.

I think I see what you are saying. Is there a command to check the
config? Is the checking not good enough? So the system that's more
suspicious would not be exim?

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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 The package chain is as follows:
 
 INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
 [maildir]  -- mutt

Does getmail4 feed the mail through exim4, fetchmail does.

 OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt

Try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
Are you sure the smtp server is set correctly? What error messages are
you getting in the exim4 logs?

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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-05 Thread s. keeling
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
  The package chain is as follows:
  
  INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
  [maildir]  -- mutt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fetchmail -- procmail -- mutt

  Does getmail4 feed the mail through exim4, fetchmail does.
 
  OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt
 
  Try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
  Are you sure the smtp server is set correctly? What error messages are
  you getting in the exim4 logs?

A working Exim config can be very picky about a couple of lower level
options, such as re-writing headers and hiding header re-writing.
With those set wrong, mail will look alright until you send to a
system that's more suspicious, and your mail will go silently into the
bit bucket.


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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 
 Thanks, Andrew. 
 
 I have been puzzled about the -nw; and the -l is good to know.
 
 I still am struggling with the transition from gnus to mutt.  Both 
 previously and now, I am using maildir instead of mbox.  And now I am 
 trying to use maildrop to replace the sorting which I was doing with 
 gnus.
 
 At this point, I am receiving mail, but no mail is being sent. 
 
 The package chain is as follows:
 
 INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
 [maildir]  -- mutt
 
 OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt

Did you configure exim for a smarthost? did you specify the smarthost
in /etc/exim4/passwd.client?

A


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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-04 Thread Russell L. Harris

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
  
At this point, I am receiving mail, but no mail is being sent. 


The package chain is as follows:

INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
[maildir]  -- mutt


OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt


Did you configure exim for a smarthost? did you specify the smarthost
in /etc/exim4/passwd.client?
  


I have an ADSL connection with DHCP, so my ISP does not require 
authentication for outgoing mail.


I think the problem may be that I do not understand the Debian 
configuration dialogue for exim4.  The dialogue asks whether to hide the 
local name in outgoing mail; I replied no, inasmuch as it doesn't 
matter to me if someone knows that I am writing mail from hamlet or 
from othello, which are, respectively, the desktop and laptop machines 
here in my LAN named homedomain.  But perhaps I misconstrue the 
question. 

Should I tell exim to make it appear as if all mail emanates from 
localprovider.net, which currently is my ISP?  
(mail.localprovider.net is the smarthost.) 

If so, then what happens when I tell mutt to place 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the From: line of outgoing messages sent 
in the course of business?


RLH


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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 03:33:31PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
   
 At this point, I am receiving mail, but no mail is being sent. 
 
 The package chain is as follows:
 
 INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  -- 
 [maildir]  -- mutt
 
 OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt
 
 Did you configure exim for a smarthost? did you specify the smarthost
 in /etc/exim4/passwd.client?
   
 
 I have an ADSL connection with DHCP, so my ISP does not require 
 authentication for outgoing mail.

okay, but you still need to tell exim which server to use, which I
think you would do from that same file. Here's the deal, mail is
darned confusing, if you ask me and it only seems to work after some
sort of magic incantations that Im gradually learning. I have found
that its MUCH easier to configure exim (and debug that config) if you
use a single file configuration, which is one of the options in the
reconfigure. i think you have to copy the basic config file from
/usr/share/exim-something-or-other into your /etc/exim4/exim.conf and
then restart to use that file. I found it much easier to basically
read that WHOLE file as the comments are decent and by the end I had
some understanding...

 
 I think the problem may be that I do not understand the Debian 
 configuration dialogue for exim4.  The dialogue asks whether to hide the 
 local name in outgoing mail; I replied no, inasmuch as it doesn't 
 matter to me if someone knows that I am writing mail from hamlet or 
 from othello, which are, respectively, the desktop and laptop machines 
 here in my LAN named homedomain.  But perhaps I misconstrue the 
 question. 

if you don't hide the local name then your outgoing mail will look
like its 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

which is not a usable address outside your LAN. you should choose to
hide the local name and it will prompt you to provide the address to
rewrite the From: line with.

 
 Should I tell exim to make it appear as if all mail emanates from 
 localprovider.net, which currently is my ISP?  

probably

 (mail.localprovider.net is the smarthost.) 
 
 If so, then what happens when I tell mutt to place 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the From: line of outgoing messages sent 
 in the course of business?

depends. if you are otherwise using a bonestock exim config, then that
mail MAY look like its from [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, there
are ways to allow exim to accept the From: headers untouched as they
come from mutt.

I did this on my LOCAL machines, I don't think its needed on the
server of my LAN since its just relaying for the other machines:

local_sender_retain = true
local_from_check = false
trusted_users = andrew

that allows the users specified as trusted to retain the local
sender information. Then you have to set up your from lines properly
in mutt. There is an option to allow untrusted users to retain local
sender, but I could never get it to work, hence I made myself
trusted... :^O

I do this successfully using mutt and folder hooks to set the sender
properly depending on which account I am mailing from. For example, I
mail to debian-user as [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I mail to
gnucash lists as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (stupid qmail on my other
provider gets me blacklisted at gnucash, but that's another story). So
when I switch to the debian-user folder, the folder hook changes my
from: header. When I switch over to gnucash-devel or -user then it
changes the from: header again. 

again, hth

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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Russell L. Harris wrote:

 In ~/.bashrc I put the line:
 
 export EDITOR=/usr/bin/xemacs
 
 Now mutt starts xemacs after I enter a subject for the message, but when
 I save the message and exit xemacs, mutt treats the text of the message
 as an attachment, rather than as an integral part of the e-mail.
 
 According to The Linux Mail User HOWTO, section 2.1, Setting your mail
 editor, I need to set EDITOR to the value gnuclient and put the
 following two lines into ~/.xemacs/init.el:
 
 (autoload 'server-edit server nil t)
 (server-edit)
 
 But that doesn't seem to work.  I am confused.
 
 RLH

I haven't followed your thread at all but maybe this will help

set editor=/usr/bin/emacs -nw -l .emacs.mutt

from my .muttrc note the following:

-nw specifies a cli version of emacs as opposed to a windowed version.

-l .emacs.mutt loads my emacs configuration for use with mutt, but I
leave that for you to figure out.

hth

A




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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-03 Thread Russell L. Harris

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

Russell L. Harris wrote:

  

In ~/.bashrc I put the line:

export EDITOR=/usr/bin/xemacs

Now mutt starts xemacs after I enter a subject for the message, but when
I save the message and exit xemacs, mutt treats the text of the message
as an attachment, rather than as an integral part of the e-mail.

According to The Linux Mail User HOWTO, section 2.1, Setting your mail
editor, I need to set EDITOR to the value gnuclient and put the
following two lines into ~/.xemacs/init.el:

(autoload 'server-edit server nil t)
(server-edit)

But that doesn't seem to work.  I am confused.

RLH



I haven't followed your thread at all but maybe this will help

set editor=/usr/bin/emacs -nw -l .emacs.mutt

from my .muttrc note the following:

-nw specifies a cli version of emacs as opposed to a windowed version.

-l .emacs.mutt loads my emacs configuration for use with mutt, but I
leave that for you to figure out.

hth

A
  


Thanks, Andrew. 


I have been puzzled about the -nw; and the -l is good to know.

I still am struggling with the transition from gnus to mutt.  Both 
previously and now, I am using maildir instead of mbox.  And now I am 
trying to use maildrop to replace the sorting which I was doing with gnus.


At this point, I am receiving mail, but no mail is being sent. 


The package chain is as follows:

INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP --  getmail4  --  maildrop  --  
[maildir]  -- mutt


OUTGOING MAIL:  smtp server @ my ISP  --  exim4  --  mutt

The system is a fresh install of Debian Etch.

RLH


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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-10-29 Thread Russell L. Harris

Hendrik Mangels wrote:

Russell L. Harris (2006-10-28, 18:21):

I wish to use xemacs as the editor for mutt, with mutt running
in gnome terminal on a Debian etch i386 system.


http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#editor

Hendrik


Thanks, Hendrik.

In ~/.bashrc I put the line:

export EDITOR=/usr/bin/xemacs

Now mutt starts xemacs after I enter a subject for the message, but when
I save the message and exit xemacs, mutt treats the text of the message
as an attachment, rather than as an integral part of the e-mail.

According to The Linux Mail User HOWTO, section 2.1, Setting your mail
editor, I need to set EDITOR to the value gnuclient and put the
following two lines into ~/.xemacs/init.el:

(autoload 'server-edit server nil t)
(server-edit)

But that doesn't seem to work.  I am confused.

RLH


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Xemacs-21.4.19 and Tex-output-view style

2006-07-09 Thread Sebastian Canagaratna

Hi:

   According to the documentation, if there are tex files which use
   pstricks, pst- modules or psfrag viewing should automatically produce
   the .ps file and call gv for display. Similarly, if pdflatex is run,
   the view should bring up xpdf. This seems to work for some files,
   e.g. pst-circ-doc.tex which comes with pst-circ package but not with
   test-pst.tex. A file that I produced myself also just calls up xdvi
   instead of dvips, though I am using \usepackage{pstricks} etc. What
   is the trick here?


   Thanks.

   Sebastian Canagaratna
   Department of Chemsitry
   Ohio Northern University
   Ada, OH 45810


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Re: emacs xemacs

2006-06-28 Thread Erhan Kesken

Emre Sevinç wrote:

tekbuz wrote:

Emacs kullanmaya yeni basladim. Tabi ilk bakinca emacs le xemacs ayni 
xemacs X de kullanilmak icin gibi gozukuyordu. Bende tabi ikisinide 
yukledim. Xemacs kullanmasi daha kolay geldi. Bir sure devam ettim 
fakat simdi farkettimki ikiside ayri ve aralarinda buyuk bir cekisme 
varmis.(oyle okudum) Emacsi profesyonel olarak kullanan arkadaslar 
daha fazla ben ilerlemeden acaba hangisini tavsiye ederler. Tesekkurler. 


yabanci bir sunucu uzerinde calisirken aradiginiz editorlerin bulunma 
olasiligini vim  emacs  xemacs(~%0) olarak siralamak mumkun.


her ne kadar emacsci bir insan olsam da bence bagimli olacaginiz 
editorun seciminde onemli bir kriter, cogunlukla emacs ayarlari xemacs 
icin gecerlidir, ama tersi icin illa el atman gerekir .emacs'ine.
nokta dosyalarimi svn'de sakladigimdan, ve yeni bir sunucuda calisirken 
ilk cektigim seyler bu dosyalar oldugundan yine onemli gordugum bir 
secim sebebi.






Tarihi gelisim icinde iki ekip arasinda cekismeler yasandigi dogru ancak 


RMS'in di sanirim soyle bir laf vardi, xemacs is just a patch to 
emacs, (kulaktan dolma bir bilgidir, duydugum insani 
hatirlayamadigimdan referans veremedim)



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Re: emacs xemacs

2006-06-28 Thread Bulent Murtezaoglu
 EK == Erhan Kesken [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
EK RMS'in di sanirim soyle bir laf vardi, xemacs is just a patch
EK to emacs, (kulaktan dolma bir bilgidir, duydugum insani
EK hatirlayamadigimdan referans veremedim)

Ben de bilmiyorum, ama bu forkun arkasindaki cekismeyi bir nebze (ve 
belki bir taraftan) aciga cikartan arsiv surada:

http://www.jwz.org/doc/lemacs.html

Herneyse ben slime/cl harici gundelik islerimde xemacs kullaniyorum.
Lisp isinde emacs'e gecmemin sebebi de Emre Sevinc'in beni bir ara
e-maille REPL olarak kullanarak lisp'e giris yaparken emacsi tercih
etmesiydi, ben de ona xemacs dayatacagima bari kendim o is icin
emacs'e geceyim demistim galiba.  Diger taraftan GNU/FSF'nin
debian/stable'da olan emacsi benim vm mail inbox'umu acamiyor cunku
dosya cok buyuk geliyor.  Boyle ciddi olabilecek farklar da var (diger
taraftan auctex'in bazi fonksyonlari bir ara xemacs'de problemliydi).
Yeni baslayanlar etraflarinda onlara yardim edecek insanlar veya onem
verdikleri paketlerin gelistiricileri ne kullaniyorsa ondan
kullanmalilar bence, Bir zaman sonra zaten kendi seciminizi yapacak
kadar detay ogrenmis olursunuz nasil olsa.  

BM







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Re: emacs xemacs

2006-06-28 Thread blackwind

X HastrMacs'i geliştirmeye başladım...

Anlamı: Has Emacs...

Gerçek emacs...

TR ise Turkey'den geliyor...

Emre Sevinç ile birlikte bu projeye imza atacağız.
Kendisi bana Hastr Emacs'de yardım edecek.
Debian GNU/Linux için en faydalı programlardan birisi olacağına inanıyorum...
Saygılar

On 6/28/06, Bulent Murtezaoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 EK == Erhan Kesken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:[...] EK RMS'in di sanirim soyle bir laf vardi, xemacs is just a patch EK to emacs, (kulaktan dolma bir bilgidir, duydugum insani EK hatirlayamadigimdan referans veremedim)
Ben de bilmiyorum, ama bu forkun arkasindaki cekismeyi bir nebze (vebelki bir taraftan) aciga cikartan arsiv surada:http://www.jwz.org/doc/lemacs.html
Herneyse ben slime/cl harici gundelik islerimde xemacs kullaniyorum.Lisp isinde emacs'e gecmemin sebebi de Emre Sevinc'in beni bir arae-maille REPL olarak kullanarak lisp'e giris yaparken emacsi tercihetmesiydi, ben de ona xemacs dayatacagima bari kendim o is icin
emacs'e geceyim demistim galiba.Diger taraftan GNU/FSF'nindebian/stable'da olan emacsi benim vm mail inbox'umu acamiyor cunkudosya cok buyuk geliyor.Boyle ciddi olabilecek farklar da var (digertaraftan auctex'in bazi fonksyonlari bir ara xemacs'de problemliydi).
Yeni baslayanlar etraflarinda onlara yardim edecek insanlar veya onemverdikleri paketlerin gelistiricileri ne kullaniyorsa ondankullanmalilar bence, Bir zaman sonra zaten kendi seciminizi yapacakkadar detay ogrenmis olursunuz nasil olsa.
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emacs xemacs

2006-06-27 Thread tekbuz
Emacs kullanmaya yeni basladim. Tabi ilk bakinca emacs le xemacs ayni 
xemacs X de kullanilmak icin gibi gozukuyordu. Bende tabi ikisinide 
yukledim. Xemacs kullanmasi daha kolay geldi. Bir sure devam ettim fakat 
simdi farkettimki ikiside ayri ve aralarinda buyuk bir cekisme 
varmis.(oyle okudum) Emacsi profesyonel olarak kullanan arkadaslar daha 
fazla ben ilerlemeden acaba hangisini tavsiye ederler. Tesekkurler.



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Re: emacs xemacs

2006-06-27 Thread Emre Sevinç

tekbuz wrote:

Emacs kullanmaya yeni basladim. Tabi ilk bakinca emacs le xemacs ayni 
xemacs X de kullanilmak icin gibi gozukuyordu. Bende tabi ikisinide 
yukledim. Xemacs kullanmasi daha kolay geldi. Bir sure devam ettim 
fakat simdi farkettimki ikiside ayri ve aralarinda buyuk bir cekisme 
varmis.(oyle okudum) Emacsi profesyonel olarak kullanan arkadaslar 
daha fazla ben ilerlemeden acaba hangisini tavsiye ederler. Tesekkurler. 



Tarihi gelisim icinde iki ekip arasinda cekismeler yasandigi dogru ancak 
teknik acidan
bakilinca su anda özellik olarak aralarinda devasa farklar yok gibi. Ya 
da birinde bulunan

bir özellik cok kisa sürede digerinde de kendini gösteriyor.

Mesela ben evdeki Debian GNU/Linux bilgisayarimda (X ortaminda) GNU Emacs
kullaniyorum, ofisteki Win2K Server makinamda ise Cygwin ortaminda 
derledigim XEmacs'i

kullaniyorum ve islevsellik olarak cok bir fark yasamiyorum.

Emacs, XEmacs, bunlarin genisletilmesi, programlanmasi (Emacs Lisp ile), 
vb. konularda Türkce olarak
bilgi alabileceginiz yerlerden biri de Türkce Lisp tartisma listesi, 
bekleriz:


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Re: emacs xemacs

2006-06-27 Thread Cafer Şimşek
Merhaba,

tekbuz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Emacs kullanmaya yeni basladim. Tabi ilk bakinca emacs le xemacs ayni
 xemacs X de kullanilmak icin gibi gozukuyordu. Bende tabi ikisinide
 yukledim. Xemacs kullanmasi daha kolay geldi. Bir sure devam ettim
 fakat simdi farkettimki ikiside ayri ve aralarinda buyuk bir cekisme
 varmis.(oyle okudum) Emacsi profesyonel olarak kullanan arkadaslar
 daha fazla ben ilerlemeden acaba hangisini tavsiye
 ederler. Tesekkurler.



Emre Bey'in de belirtiği gibi aralarında çok fazla fark yok. Ancak
benim gözlemlediğim kadarıyla XEmacs UTF-8 konusunda biraz sorunlu.

Ayrıca Türkçe Emacs Viki'ye de bekleriz: http://www.emacs.gen.tr/


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Re: problèm e de font dans emacs et xemacs avec unstable

2006-04-25 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
* Joris REHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-25 20:57] :
 Bonjour,
 
 Je suis en unstable et je viens de faire ma mise à jour.
 J'ai le même problème avec emacs et xemacs (j'ai besoin des deux). Le 
 message d'erreur affiché est (le même pour les deux) :
 
 Warning: Cannot convert string 
 -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
 Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
 Warning: Cannot convert string 
 -*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct
 Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
 Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
 
 Les symptômes pour emacs : des carrés affichés à la place des 
 caractère. Quand a xemacs il segfault carrément...
 
 Je ne connais rien à la gestion des polices, mais je pense que le 
 passage aux dernier X.Org a tout cassé. Quelqu'un a une idée ?
 
 (en plus ca tombe mal j'ai besoin de xemacs pour travailler)

Tu peux regarder les rapports de bogue 362894, 363664 et 363667. La
solution indiquée devrait résoudre ton problème.


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Re: problème de font dans emacs et xemacs avec unstable

2006-04-25 Thread Joris REHM

Frédéric Bothamy wrote:

Tu peux regarder les rapports de bogue 362894, 363664 et 363667. La
solution indiquée devrait résoudre ton problème.
  

Rhaa j'avais pourtant fait une recherche ...
Merci bien cela a résolu mon problème. Si quelqu'un cherche il y avait 
deux problèmes conjugés

1) faire ln -s /usr/lib/X11/fonts /usr/share/fonts/X11/
2) installer mule-ucs

a+

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Re: problèm e de font dans emacs et xemacs avec unstable

2006-04-25 Thread Philippe Monroux
Bonjour,

Joris REHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Je suis en unstable et je viens de faire ma mise à jour.
 J'ai le même problème avec emacs et xemacs (j'ai besoin des deux). Le 
 message d'erreur affiché est (le même pour les deux) :

emacs en xterm ? ou emacs sous x I presume... 

 Warning: Cannot convert string 
 -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
 Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
 Warning: Cannot convert string 
 -*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct
 Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
 Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font

Si  c'est  un pb  de  sortie :  les  fontes  sont-elles installées  et
déclarées ds le fichier de conf d'x.org ?
 
 Les  symptômes pour  emacs :  des carrés  affichés à  la  place des
 caractère. Quand  a xemacs il segfault carrément...   Je ne connais
 rien à  la gestion  des polices,  mais je pense  que le  passage aux
 dernier X.Org a tout cassé. Quelqu'un a une idée ?

Perso  je ne  connais pas  unstable  mais il  faut peut-être  regarder
également l'entrée en faisant :
$: dpkg-reconfigure console-data
$: emacs /etc/console-tools/config # non ce n'est pas de la provoc
$:/etc/init.d/console-screen.sh 

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drag and drop no XEmacs

2006-04-17 Thread Ronaldo Reis-Jr.
Pessoal,

alguem sabe se tem como habilitar drag and drop no XEmacs?

Valeu
Ronaldo
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drag and drop no XEmacs

2006-04-17 Thread Prof. Ronaldo Reis-Jr.
Pessoal,

alguem sabe se tem como habilitar drag and drop no XEmacs?

Valeu
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Latest xemacs (testing) and speedbar

2006-03-13 Thread Markus . Grunwald
Hello,

I updated my xemacs21 packages and now my speedbar throws an error:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
  normalize-menu-item-name(nil)
  easy-menu-remove((Speedbar [Update speedbar-refresh t] [Auto 
Update speedbar-toggle-updates :active (not speedbar-update-flag-disable) 
:style toggle :selected speedbar-update-flag] [Use Images 
speedbar-toggle-images :style toggle :selected speedbar-use-images] - 
(Displays [Files ... :style radio :selected ...] [Quick Buffers ... 
:style radio :selected ...] [Buffers ... :style radio :selected ...] 
[Class Browser ... :style radio :selected ...] [Analyze ... :style 
radio :selected ...]) [Customize... speedbar-customize t] [Detach 
speedbar-detach (and speedbar-frame ...)] [Close dframe-close-frame t] 
[Quit delete-frame t]))
  speedbar-reconfigure-keymaps()
  speedbar-frame-mode(1)
  dframe-get-focus(speedbar-frame speedbar-frame-mode #compiled-function 
nil ...(6) [speedbar-update-flag t speedbar-timer-fn] 1)
  #compiled-function nil ...(9) [speedbar-reset-scanners 
dframe-get-focus speedbar-frame speedbar-frame-mode #compiled-function 
nil ...(6) ... 1] 4 
(/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/speedbar/speedbar.elc . 32220) nil()
  call-interactively(speedbar-get-focus)


What's wrong there ?


TIA

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Re: police pour xemacs

2005-11-27 Thread pascal

Frederic Baldit a écrit :

Bonjour,
je suis sous etch et j'utilise fréquemment xemacs. Quelqu'un peut-il me dire 
comment obtenir une police jolie (pas crénelée) dans la barre de menu, car 
j'ai j'ai constaté que la police que j'ai dans la barre de menu est  moins 
jolie que celle que j'ai sur une autre installation de xemacs. Dois-je 
modifier ceci à l'intérieur de xemacs et où ?

Merci d'avance.
F.Baldit.


Dans ton répertoire tu crées ou ouvre le fichier .Xresources
tu y ajoutes une ligne du genre
Emacs*menubar.font:\ -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15
(sur une seule ligne)
Tu enregistres et tu tapes
xrdb .Xresources
et tu relances Emacs ou Xemacs.
Voilà
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Re: police pour xemacs

2005-11-27 Thread pascal

pascal a écrit :

Frederic Baldit a écrit :


Bonjour,
je suis sous etch et j'utilise fréquemment xemacs. Quelqu'un peut-il 
me dire comment obtenir une police jolie (pas crénelée) dans la barre 
de menu, car j'ai j'ai constaté que la police que j'ai dans la barre 
de menu est  moins jolie que celle que j'ai sur une autre installation 
de xemacs. Dois-je modifier ceci à l'intérieur de xemacs et où ?

Merci d'avance.
F.Baldit.


Dans ton répertoire tu crées ou ouvre le fichier .Xresources
tu y ajoutes une ligne du genre
Emacs*menubar.font:\ -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15

Sans le \...Que j'ai rajouté car dans mon message je passais à la ligne...

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police pour xemacs

2005-11-25 Thread Frederic Baldit
Bonjour,
je suis sous etch et j'utilise fréquemment xemacs. Quelqu'un peut-il me dire 
comment obtenir une police jolie (pas crénelée) dans la barre de menu, car 
j'ai j'ai constaté que la police que j'ai dans la barre de menu est  moins 
jolie que celle que j'ai sur une autre installation de xemacs. Dois-je 
modifier ceci à l'intérieur de xemacs et où ?
Merci d'avance.
F.Baldit.



Re: Re: Fwd: Xemacs i global-set-key z modyfikatorami

2005-10-13 Thread Szymon Bieganski


hmmm a jednak ktos odpowiedzial. Tylko dlaczego odpowiedz widze tylko na  
jakichs internetowych archiwach, a nie w mojej skrzynce News ?


http://www.archivum.info/debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org/2005-10/msg00045.html

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zauważyłem mniej w nim takich niespodzianek.
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Obawiam sie ze to tylko jeden z objawow wiekszego problemu z moja  
konfiguracja klawiatury w X'ach, dlatego wlasnie dolaczylem istotne  
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Fwd: Xemacs i global-set-key z modyfikatorami

2005-10-06 Thread Szymon Bieganski

Witam

Mam zdefiniowane makra przypisane do klawiszy funkcyjnych wraz z
modyfikatorami (key-modifier) Shift i Alt:
;; copy/cut/paste
(global-set-key [f4] 'set-mark-command)
(global-set-key [f5] \M-w)
(global-set-key '(shift f5) 'kill-region)
(global-set-key '(meta f5) 'kill-region)
(global-set-key '(control f5) 'x-delete-primary-selection)
(global-set-key [f6] \C-y)

Niestety podczas ktoregos z update'ow (nawet nie zauwazylem kiedy to sie
stalo) nastapila pewna zmiana w XFree86, albo w Xemacs i przestaly dzialac
jak przedtem: przy wcisnietym Shift wykonywane jest makro bez Shifta. Alt
nadal dziala jako modyfikator. Jezeli ktos sie spotkal z tym problemem i
zna rozwiazanie prosze sie podzielic, prywatnie lub na forum.

wersje:

XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Jumbo Shrimp [Lucid] (i386-debian-linux, Mule) of
Sat May 28 2005 on penell

XFree86 Version 4.3.99.12 (DRI trunk)
Release Date: 10 September 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.7 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux ics-nb1013 2.6.12.nb10 #1 Mon Oct 3
21:31:46 CEST 2005 i686
Build Date: 08 July 2004

~$ xmodmap -v
!
! executing work queue
!
xmodmap:  up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80)
mod5Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)

Pozdrawiam
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Re: Fwd: Xemacs i global-set-key z modyfikatorami

2005-10-06 Thread Tomasz Szczechowiak
On 18:28 Thu 06 Oct , Szymon Bieganski wrote:
 Witam
 
 Mam zdefiniowane makra przypisane do klawiszy funkcyjnych wraz z
 modyfikatorami (key-modifier) Shift i Alt:
 ;; copy/cut/paste
 (global-set-key [f4] 'set-mark-command)
 (global-set-key [f5] \M-w)
 (global-set-key '(shift f5) 'kill-region)
 (global-set-key '(meta f5) 'kill-region)
 (global-set-key '(control f5) 'x-delete-primary-selection)
 (global-set-key [f6] \C-y)
 
 Niestety podczas ktoregos z update'ow (nawet nie zauwazylem kiedy to sie
 stalo) nastapila pewna zmiana w XFree86, albo w Xemacs i przestaly dzialac
 jak przedtem: przy wcisnietym Shift wykonywane jest makro bez Shifta. Alt
 nadal dziala jako modyfikator. Jezeli ktos sie spotkal z tym problemem i
 zna rozwiazanie prosze sie podzielic, prywatnie lub na forum.
 
 wersje:
 
 XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Jumbo Shrimp [Lucid] (i386-debian-linux, Mule) of
 Sat May 28 2005 on penell
 
 XFree86 Version 4.3.99.12 (DRI trunk)
 Release Date: 10 September 2003
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.7 i686 [ELF]
 Current Operating System: Linux ics-nb1013 2.6.12.nb10 #1 Mon Oct 3
 21:31:46 CEST 2005 i686
 Build Date: 08 July 2004
 
 ~$ xmodmap -v
 !
 ! executing work queue
 !
 xmodmap:  up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
 
 shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
 lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
 control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
 mod1Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
 mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
 mod3
 mod4Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80)
 mod5Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)
 
 Pozdrawiam
 Szymon
 
A czy coś stoi na przeszkodzie abyś przesiadł się na Emacs? Z tego co
zauważyłem mniej w nim takich niespodzianek.

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Re: OT: GNU-emacs21 als Xemacs

2005-10-04 Thread Ulrich Möhrke
Hallo Jochen,

Am Donnerstag, den 29.09.2005, 00:37 +0200 schrieb Jochen von der Wall:
 Hallo,
 ich habe mit dem o. g. emacs ein Dokument erstellt, in dem einige Zeilen
 in verschiedenen Farben erstellt und an anderer Stelle auch Fettdruck
 benutzt wird. Das Dokument läßt sich so auch einwandfrei ausdrucken.
 Beende ich das Dokument aber und rufe es neu auf, sind die farblichen
 Änderungen und der Fettdruck nicht mehr vorhanden.
 Natürlich habe ich vor dem Beenden C-x und C-s gedrückt, also
 gespeichert.
 Wo liegt der Fehler?
 Danke im voraus.
 
 Jochen
  

Ich kenne mich nicht allzu gut mit emacs aus, aber normalerweise ist das
ein Texteditor, bei dem ich nicht erwarte, dass irgendwelche Farb- oder
Fonteinstellungen mit abgespeichert werden.
Wie hast Du es denn geschafft, dass verschiedene Farben genutzt wurden?

Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass Du irgendwie Syntax-Hervorhebung
eingestellt hast. Nach dem Speichern und neuen Laden, war diese
Einstellung aber weg , möglicherweise weil die Einstellung nicht
allgemein, sondern nur für den aktuellen Puffer vorgenommen wurde, oder
Emacs konnte anhand der Dateiendung nicht mehr erkennen, um was für eine
Syntax es sich handeln soll.

Viele Grüße,
Ulli





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OT: GNU-emacs21 als Xemacs

2005-09-28 Thread Jochen von der Wall
Hallo,
ich habe mit dem o. g. emacs ein Dokument erstellt, in dem einige Zeilen
in verschiedenen Farben erstellt und an anderer Stelle auch Fettdruck
benutzt wird. Das Dokument läßt sich so auch einwandfrei ausdrucken.
Beende ich das Dokument aber und rufe es neu auf, sind die farblichen
Änderungen und der Fettdruck nicht mehr vorhanden.
Natürlich habe ich vor dem Beenden C-x und C-s gedrückt, also
gespeichert.
Wo liegt der Fehler?
Danke im voraus.

Jochen
 



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