Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager
On Ma, 13 oct 20, 23:06:55, Weaver wrote: > On 14-10-2020 14:21, kaye n wrote: > > > > I realize my question may be an eye-roller for some people, but > > > > "as I learnt to read years ago," > > > > is the type of answer that makes non-Linux users think that we're a > > bunch of elitist snob. > > No, it doesn't. > It's appropriate sarcasm. > A quick scroll and a basic knowledge of the alphabet is all that's > required to locate any file/directory in even a complex listing. That feature appears useful in case of a directory with lots of files where the first part of the filename is unknown (i.e. one can't guess even the general area in the listing where the file might be). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux not seeing all SATA drives
On Lu, 12 oct 20, 21:19:39, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I have 3 SATA drives on my system. I replaced all my red cables with new > black cables. The BIOS sees all of them but when linux finishes booting it > only sees two of them. Do I have to do something to linux so it sees the > third drive? > > FYI, I have the system disk in sata-1, the drive on sata2 is not seen, but > the drive on sata3 is seen and in use. The CD/DVD drive is on sata6 and is > also seen. Do you have a good enough power source? For testing purposes you could try removing any other component that is not strictly needed to start the system. If you connect each drive individually, does Linux detect them? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Please be respectful (was: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager)
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700 Weaver wrote : > > "as I learnt to read years ago," > It's appropriate sarcasm. Disagreed. It's simply disrespectful. > For those who require spoon feeding: As is this comment, too. Sarcasm can be fun sometimes, but I believe it's no appropriate way to communicate on debian mailing lists. It can lead to misunderstandings and people being hurt, apart from making a bad impressions on others reading this list. Please re-read the Debian Code of Conduct and consider being more polite: https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct Best regards, Christoph
how to open mht file
i save web page in android phone, it uses mht formathow to open it in debian?below is part of mht file: From: Snapshot-Content-Location: http://museums.cnd.org/CR/ZK19/cr989.gb.html Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 04:26:30 - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="MultipartBoundary--zR35Q5zUZO9YOsOWT8wRGQ4cPf0TOgte9cWxgCvKsD" --MultipartBoundary--zR35Q5zUZO9YOsOWT8wRGQ4cPf0TOgte9cWxgCvKsD Content-Type: text/html Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Location: http://museums.cnd.org/CR/ZK19/cr989.gb.html http://museums.cnd.org/im= ages/hxwz2.gif"> =A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=CE=C4=B8=EF=B2=A9=CE=EF=B9=DD=CD=A8=D1=B6=A3=A8=BE=C5=B0= =CB=BE=C5=A3=A9=A1=A4=BB=AA=CF=C4=CE=C4=D5=AA=D4=F6=BF=AF=B5=DA=D2=BB=D2=BB= =CE=E5=C6=DF=C6=DA=A3=A8zk1901a=A3=A9 =A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=D6=D0=B9=FA=D0= =C2=CE=C5=B5=E7=C4=D4=CD=F8=C2=E7=A3=A8=A3=C3=A3=CE=A3=C4=A3=A9=D6=F7=B0=EC =A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Re: Please be respectful
On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700 > Weaver wrote : > >> > "as I learnt to read years ago," >> It's appropriate sarcasm. > > Disagreed. > It's simply disrespectful. > > >> For those who require spoon feeding: > > As is this comment, too. > > > Sarcasm can be fun sometimes, but I believe it's no appropriate way to > communicate on debian mailing lists. It can lead to misunderstandings and > people being hurt, apart from making a bad impressions on others reading > this list. > > Please re-read the Debian Code of Conduct and consider being more polite: > https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all. I consider the original post not to be. To me I see an outstanding example of laziness from somebody who obviously needs no consideration in the accessibility department. Scrolling an alphabetically arranged file system doesn't even qualify as trivial. It can be accomplished as quickly as you can move your hand. The use of find and/or locate will dig up anything, no matter how deeply hidden in a plethora of directories. If that is insufficient and the standard has to be established in an instance where an iron lung is in use, direct a bug report to the appropriate quarter, which I have already supplied, where they can put it at the far end of a list behind things that really need doing. Kind regards, Harry. -- `Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful'. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion. Registered Linux User: 554515
Has Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops
To, The Team User, debian-user@lists.debian.org, Debian.org My dear illustrious Team User Leaders, Good afternoon, leaders. My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here: Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=147081#p727593 There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such opportunity: https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software? I have a query: In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please? I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg, but haven't been able to hear from him yet. Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche? Could anyone help please? Regards, Rajib Bandopadhyay A dedicated Debian and Knoppix user
Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
To, The Team User, debian-user@lists.debian.org, Debian.org My dear illustrious Team User Leaders, Good afternoon, leaders. My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here: Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=147081#p727593 There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such opportunity: https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software? I have a query: In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please? I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg, but haven't been able to hear from him yet. Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche? Could anyone help please? Regards, Rajib Bandopadhyay A dedicated Debian and Knoppix user
Re: Please be respectful
Weaver wrote: > To me I see an outstanding example of laziness from somebody who > obviously needs no consideration in the accessibility department. Hi Harry, I really hope you are in a minority with this opinion, and hopefully, re-reading the original post you might come to a different conclusion about the OP's request. > Scrolling an alphabetically arranged file system doesn't even qualify as > trivial. The OP asked for a suggestion of a file browser with a certain feature. The feature is to filter/limit the displayed files, roughly equivalent to a shell command like `ls *j*`. I do this type of things all the time. This is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, especially when dealing with lots of files, and when you don't know the full name of a file. > The use of find and/or locate will dig up anything, no matter how deeply > hidden in a plethora of directories. That is true, find and locate are very powerful tools, and worth learning. However, they are specialized tools which need some form of in-depth knowledge, and as such, they not always the first choice in every situation for every user. Cheers, Thomas
Re: how to open mht file
Long Wind wrote: > i save web page in android phone, it uses mht formathow to open it in > debian?below is part of mht file: That's an mail header on top of a MIME multipart container. Tools that can work on this include reformime (from maildrop) ripmime mimeview (from mailutils) -dsr-
Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager
> > > > > I realize my question may be an eye-roller for some people, but > > > > > > "as I learnt to read years ago," > > > > > > is the type of answer that makes non-Linux users think that we're a > > > bunch of elitist snob. > > > > No, it doesn't. > > It's appropriate sarcasm. > > A quick scroll and a basic knowledge of the alphabet is all that's > > required to locate any file/directory in even a complex listing. > > That feature appears useful in case of a directory with lots of files > where the first part of the filename is unknown (i.e. one can't guess > even the general area in the listing where the file might be). > That's exactly my point. Thank you Andrei. You've been helpful since I started using Debian.
Re: Has Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops
Debian has supported multiple concurrent network cards and interfaces for a very long time. You could cable each to a separate ISP if you wish. Or all to the same if you have the bandwidth. This is sometimes called NIC teaming. On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 4:48 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: > To, > The Team User, > debian-user@lists.debian.org, > Debian.org > > My dear illustrious Team User Leaders, > > Good afternoon, leaders. > > My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here: > Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=147081#p727593 > > There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such > opportunity: > https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme > > Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software? > > I have a query: > In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has > used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please? > > I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg, > but haven't been able to hear from him yet. > > Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within > the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche? > > Could anyone help please? > > Regards, > Rajib Bandopadhyay > A dedicated Debian and Knoppix user > >
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
-- Received message -- From: Nicholas Geovanis Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:22:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Has Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops To: Susmita/Rajib , Debian Users ML Debian has supported multiple concurrent network cards and interfaces for a very long time. You could cable each to a separate ISP if you wish. Or all to the same if you have the bandwidth. This is sometimes called NIC teaming. On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 4:48 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: > To, ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... Dear Dr. Geovanis, Nicholas Geovanis , I am surprised at your revelations. I have been trying to have a breakthrough, but have been failing. My need is a little divergant from NIC teaming from what little I understood after reading on the topic, after your inputs: We have multiple USB ports in our laptops/dektops, and smartphones with USB ports and opportunity for USB tethering and internet access from the smartphone's mobile Network provider using SIM cards. I wish to use two ISPs, i.e., two snartphones in USB teethering, and combine internet bandwidth from each of the two simultaneously. I hope that I have been able to explain myself in my post. Regards, Rajib Bandopadhyay A Debian and Knoppix user P.S.:: BTW, because of the typo "has" I have requested the List Moderator/administrator to delete the subject thread and keep the post corrected with "have".
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > I am surprised at your revelations. I have been trying to have a > breakthrough, but have been failing. > > My need is a little divergant from NIC teaming from what little I > understood after reading on the topic, after your inputs: > > We have multiple USB ports in our laptops/dektops, and smartphones > with USB ports and opportunity for USB tethering and internet access > from the smartphone's mobile Network provider using SIM cards. > > I wish to use two ISPs, i.e., two snartphones in USB teethering, and > combine internet bandwidth from each of the two simultaneously. > > I hope that I have been able to explain myself in my post. Packets have the following characteristics, at a minimum: IP of the sender port number of the sending process IP of the destination port number of the destination When a network interface connects to a network, it has an IP address assigned to it. (This can be static or dynamic; it does not matter here.) The network will only send packets that are destined for that IP address. An interface connecting to network A gets an address from network A; an interface on network B has an address from network B. When your computer sends out a request, it can pick either network A or network B, but the sender IP will always match the network that it picks, and so the answer will come in on the same network. You have some options: - you can pick one network as primary and the other as secondary, and stop using the primary if it fails. - you can assign some of your traffic to each network, but answers will come back over the same network and you do not get an increase in bandwidth for any given session. - you might be able to set up a proxy on a well-connected machine somewhere, and send all your traffic via that proxy, which understands that there are two paths back to you. However, those two paths are likely to be of different latencies, and you will see many exciting problems including out-of-order packets, dropped packets, and repeated packets. Does this help? -dsr-
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
-- Received message -- From: Dan Ritter Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:17:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops? To: Susmita/Rajib Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Susmita/Rajib wrote: > ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... Packets have the following characteristics, at a minimum: IP of the sender port number of the sending process IP of the destination port number of the destination When a network interface connects to a network, it has an IP address assigned to it. (This can be static or dynamic; it does not matter here.) The network will only send packets that are destined for that IP address. An interface connecting to network A gets an address from network A; an interface on network B has an address from network B. When your computer sends out a request, it can pick either network A or network B, but the sender IP will always match the network that it picks, and so the answer will come in on the same network. You have some options: - you can pick one network as primary and the other as secondary, and stop using the primary if it fails. - you can assign some of your traffic to each network, but answers will come back over the same network and you do not get an increase in bandwidth for any given session. - you might be able to set up a proxy on a well-connected machine somewhere, and send all your traffic via that proxy, which understands that there are two paths back to you. However, those two paths are likely to be of different latencies, and you will see many exciting problems including out-of-order packets, dropped packets, and repeated packets. Does this help? -dsr- Wow! Unbelievable, Dr. Ritter, but I understood your line of reasoning. Okay, but then some questions arise: (1) How does "openwrt (https://openwrt.org/) able to achieve a similar objective? If my original Debian Forums thread and posts have been perused. (2) Again, how dispatch-proxy is able to achieve a similar objective? My earlier post was here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/10/msg00118.html Unfortunately, I received no reply for the post. Very well. Let us continue to keep it dead, but use the information posted there. Your post provides me an opportunity to clear some of my doubts, which are endless. Etenally. I must keep my questions very focussed so that I don't irritate or lose you. In general, cognitive elites shall choose to ignore queries posted by nincompoops such as I. So, I thank you for choosing to reply to my query. Regards, Rajib
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
Susmita/Rajib wrote: > -- Received message -- > Wow! Unbelievable, Dr. Ritter, but I understood your line of reasoning. I don't think my family has a Dr. Ritter in it, although several of my cousins have doctorates (medical, ceramic engineering, physics...) > Okay, but then some questions arise: > (1) How does "openwrt (https://openwrt.org/) able to achieve a > similar objective? If my original Debian Forums thread and posts have > been perused. Reading mwan3: Debian does it the same way, as will any other Linux. You can connect to multiple networks, route as appropriate, and even try outbound load balancing -- but it will fail in the same ways on Debian as it will on OpenWRT. > (2) Again, how dispatch-proxy is able to achieve a similar > objective? My earlier post was here: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/10/msg00118.html It can't. It, too, will be plagued by the inability to force inbound traffic to come to a particular interface, drop packets, receive packets out of order, and so forth. -- https://randomstring.org/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by reference. there is no justice, there is just us.
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
On Mi, 14 oct 20, 15:31:14, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > To, > The Team User, > debian-user@lists.debian.org, > Debian.org > > My dear illustrious Team User Leaders, > > Good afternoon, leaders. Hello, The debian-user list is just a mailing list subscribed by users of Debian (such as yourself). While there are some Debian Developers subscribed (thanks!) most of us are just regular users, with no particular position in the Debian community. Communication style on Debian channels is rather informal (i.e. on first name basis, as you would address a work colleague, not a superior). Addressing us with such formality is... hilarious :) > My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here: > Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=147081#p727593 > > There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such > opportunity: > https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme > > Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software? > > I have a query: > In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has > used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please? > > I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg, > but haven't been able to hear from him yet. If you wrote in the same manner as above it's possible Mr. Kirszenberg thought he is the subject of a joke :) Or maybe he is just very busy. In Open Source communities patience is much more important than formality. > Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within > the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche? There is currently no ITP (Intent To Package) filled for dispatch-proxy. https://bugs.debian.org/wnpp You could file an RFP (Request for Package) or, even better, create a package yourself and ask for a sponsor to upload to Debian. https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
dispatch-proxy only works with HTTP and Socks. Any other protocol will be untouched at its layer. Openwrt is for embedded network equipment. I cant verify this yet, but I believe they have completely rewritten the network stack. So each does their load balancing and proxying in completely different ways than you will. On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:21 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: > -- Received message -- > From: Dan Ritter > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:17:25 -0400 > Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster > internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed > Lap- /Desk- tops? > To: Susmita/Rajib > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > > ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] > ... ... > > Packets have the following characteristics, at a minimum: > > IP of the sender > port number of the sending process > IP of the destination > port number of the destination > > When a network interface connects to a network, it has an IP > address assigned to it. (This can be static or dynamic; it does > not matter here.) The network will only send packets that are > destined for that IP address. > > An interface connecting to network A gets an address from > network A; an interface on network B has an address from network > B. > > When your computer sends out a request, it can pick either > network A or network B, but the sender IP will always match the > network that it picks, and so the answer will come in on the > same network. > > You have some options: > > - you can pick one network as primary and the other as > secondary, and stop using the primary if it fails. > > - you can assign some of your traffic to each network, but > answers will come back over the same network and you do not > get an increase in bandwidth for any given session. > > - you might be able to set up a proxy on a well-connected > machine somewhere, and send all your traffic via that proxy, > which understands that there are two paths back to you. > However, those two paths are likely to be of different > latencies, and you will see many exciting problems including > out-of-order packets, dropped packets, and repeated packets. > > Does this help? > > -dsr- > > > Wow! Unbelievable, Dr. Ritter, but I understood your line of reasoning. > > Okay, but then some questions arise: > (1) How does "openwrt (https://openwrt.org/) able to achieve a > similar objective? If my original Debian Forums thread and posts have > been perused. > > (2) Again, how dispatch-proxy is able to achieve a similar > objective? My earlier post was here: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/10/msg00118.html > Unfortunately, I received no reply for the post. Very well. Let us > continue to keep it dead, but use the information posted there. > > Your post provides me an opportunity to clear some of my doubts, which > are endless. Etenally. > > I must keep my questions very focussed so that I don't irritate or lose > you. > In general, cognitive elites shall choose to ignore queries posted by > nincompoops such as I. > > So, I thank you for choosing to reply to my query. > > Regards, > Rajib > >
Re: Please be respectful
Hello Harry, thanks for your answer. On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:12:45 -0700 Weaver wrote : > Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all. Agreed. > I consider the original post not to be. I do believe it could have been "more considerate", but it didn't "cross my line", which your post did. That's why I took the time to write the "please be respectful" email. My main point of criticism is that independently of the original post, it's a bad idea to escalate the situation by being sarcastic. I prefer to directly confront the poster with the problem (as I'm doing in this case) and ask for a different communication style. > To me I see an outstanding example of laziness ... I guess that's where the main clash is. Sometimes I find myself thinking the same way about what other people do. But after some experiences of being nasty with other people, ruining relationships for almost nothing, I've come to the conclusion that "Assume good faith" as mentioned in the Debian Code of Conduct is a much better strategy to deal with issues of that kind. In many cases I've often found that my initial judgement (he's lazy, nobody needs that feature, etc.) was wrong and it was a good idea not to express my opinion. In other cases I find myself to be right. Usually there's no need to point to that. People expose their faults (lazyness, etc.) themselves - sooner or later. Sometimes I support them doing so with polite questions ;-) Best regards, Christoph
Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager
> That feature appears useful in case of a directory with lots of files > where the first part of the filename is unknown (i.e. one can't guess > even the general area in the listing where the file might be). It's also useful when all the files (or at least many of them) start with the same prefix and you'd rather not have to repeat that prefix. Oh, and also when the prefix includes characters which you don't really know how to type. And I'm sure there are several other very legitimate use case. Stefan PS: Being able to "read" is important, but being able to imagine someone else's use cases (which I guess is what we call "empathy") is quite handy too.
Re: needed: a way to eliminate wasted disk space due to unneeded locale files
On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 10/13/20, L Godioleskky wrote: > > App localepurge eliminates some, but far from all of these un-needed files > > What's it leaving behind that you would like to see additionally > purged? If there's not a known tweak, flag, or something for > localepurge, perhaps your needs could become a reportbug wish list > item sent to Developers. > Try this Cindy, find / -iname '*zh*' I get 136 hits after running localepurge and each points to a directory with lots of other languages. Be Well, Mike -- During the Afghan war the American news reported how many Americans had died over there. It seems to me that a good newsman would have also reported the Afghani death count but I never heard one.- MM
Re: Thunderbird / enigmail
On 10/13/20 9:14 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: [snip] I'm wondering if any enigmail user here has installed the update, and if they have had any problems with the transition to the new enigmail-less encrypted e-mail system. On Buster, I have installed the thunderbird update and removed enigmail without any issues. The install notes walk you through the simple process. Regards, Ralph OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
-- Recieved message -- From: Andrei POPESCU Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:55:33 +0300 Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops? To: Susmita/Rajib Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > On Mi, 14 oct 20, 15:31:14, Susmita/Rajib wrote: ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... > Addressing us with such formality is... hilarious :) Then at least, i could pat myself on my back that i have at least added some spices and entertainment to our lives for Free. On a serious note, i consider computing user-group to be visited by people better gifted than i am So the 'respect' factor comes out of me automatically. ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... > If you wrote in the same manner as above it's possible Mr. Kirszenberg > thought he is the subject of a joke :) Well, in this case, i must have approached him in a wrong manner. Then i should write another email to him in the manner you have suggested. > Or maybe he is just very busy. In Open Source communities patience is > much more important than formality. ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... Yes, this quality is also perhaps evades me. ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... > There is currently no ITP (Intent To Package) filled for dispatch-proxy. > > https://bugs.debian.org/wnpp ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... > You could file an RFP (Request for Package) ... ... Yes, thank you for this advice. i shall proceed to do so. Thank you.. ... ... ... ... ... even better, create a > package yourself and ask for a sponsor to upload to Debian. This is a quality that unfortunately evades me. Minor programs and scripts i can write. But i am seriously not gifted enough to write programs. Didn't develop the necessary stack of neural networks that could enable me to write brilliant programs or rewrite an entire stack like Dr. Stallman or Dr. Torvalds. Which is why i seek information in the first place. May be, i am providing a template for the road forward in this regard. > https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ > https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/ ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... In the end, i thank you for the links provided. Regards Rajib
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
-- Received message -- From: Nicholas Geovanis Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:57:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops? To: Susmita/Rajib , Debian Users ML ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... > ... ... Openwrt is for embedded network equipment. I > cant > verify this yet, but I believe they have completely rewritten the network > stack. > So each does their load balancing and proxying in completely different ways > than you will. > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:21 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... Yes Sir, it appears then that i have understood the situation better than i had considered possible. In that case, it really bothers me that such gifted programmers and developers at Debian/GNU/Linux in general' weren't inspired by the idea to implement it within the OS, given that we all have more than one USB port, one BT and one WiFi channel free most of the time. Had i the gift, i would surely have written the stack by myself, like Dr. Torvalds did. But alas! However, Mr. Andrei Popescu has given me some links and I could use them in this case. Regards, Rajib
Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?
-- Received message -- From: Dan Ritter Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:46:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops? To: Susmita/Rajib Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Susmita/Rajib wrote: ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... Sir, I apply my common sense: the CPU, memory and ports are at least 3 orders faster than they the signals received from individual ISPs. In that case, multiple ports could be used apparently parallelly by multiplexing between the Ethernet port, the WiFi port, the Bluetooth port and at least a couple of USB ports, and 'effectively' speed up internet signals by rearranging packets sequentially by the order the requests were sent. So what is essentially required is theoretically a list that keeps record of time, order and port, of each of the packets requests made, and rearrange the packets received from all ports according to that list, to provide the system with a complete file. So, I am indeed surprised that even with so many gifted individuals in GNU/Linux/Debian the matter hasn't been rewritten, which should be relatively easy to achieve, as the OS is completely modular. Unfortunately, i didn't develop the stack of neural networks necessary to build up such a program, otherwise, i would have done so myself and given it to GNU. In the end, your sense of humour to talk differently is much admired. Regards, Rajib
