Re: Debian backup
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:09:40PM +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote: hi guys hope u all be OK :D i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a dump (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian It depends. Dump makes an image of a file system. While this is a belt-and-braces approach (i.e. you can be certain that file metadata, extended attributes, deleted files etc are backed up), it's often viewed as inefficient. What if, for example, you want to use the back up to migrate to a different file system. What if you want a more space-efficient backup (do you REALLY need to dump those hundreds of gigabytes of empty space?). i checked out luckybackup , but it just copies files (backs them up) A file-based backup is generally preferred. I can't speak for luckybackup, but a good file-based backup system should back up all your files. It should also handle xattrs, acls etc if those are important to you. In theory, the files are all you really need for a backup. To restore for bare metal, you would partition the disks as appropriate, restore the latest backup, re-install the bootloader (as the MBR is typically not included in a file-based backup) and reboot. thanks ... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: To pulse or not to pulse?
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:57:58PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: [cut] So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one example (there are several I have noticed), when playing music with Amarok, every time a screen issue happens (e.g. when the screen saver kicks in, or when the track changes and Amarok kicks up a dialog with the name/artist of the next track, the sound goes wonky and sounds like it is underwater. Sometimes this will clear up on its own after a few minutes, but other times it doesn't or I want it fixed immediately...Then I can slide the master volume down and back up in kmix (sometimes it takes twice). Very frustrating. I think that, for best results with pulseaudio, one has to use an all-or-nothing approach. Pulseaudio is good, but it doesn't take kindly to other programs using the sound system at the same time. As such, make sure that amarok and phonon (the KDE sound API) are using pulseaudio to play sounds and NOT alsa directly. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: icedove / fetchmail
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:01:30PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, It seems that my fetchmail saved in the :~/Maildir$ ls cur new new.sbd tmp.msf Trash.msfUnsent Messages.msf cur.msf new.msf tmp TrashUnsent Messages I wonder how to let the icedove read those fetched email. (not so sure I am right or wrong here.) Tried several times in add other account, not work. AFAIK, Icedove can't read maildir mailstores. You have two options, run an IMAP server that uses your maildir as a backend (dovecot, cyrus etc) or use a maildir-to-mbox conversion tool and import that. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: LVM creation methods
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 05:35:03PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i was reading a document where a person has configured physical volume and didn't use fdisk he just directly created the partition by pvcreate /dev/sda and there are some documents which shows the utilization of fdisk and converting sda1 to 8e type which is LVM. so the question is what is the difference b/w creating it directly on disk by pvcreate command and by using fdisk. With one, you're using the whole disk, with the other, you're using a portion of the disk. If you want to use the disk with non-LVM-aware operating systems, then you'll need to partition the disk and give them a partition. Bear in mind that non-LVM-aware probably includes your BIOS, too, so a whole-disk PV is unbootable. That said, if you only want to use that disk for LVM, then there is no issue with using the whole disk. In fact, for Advanced Format disks and SSDs, it may be preferable as you're more likely to get the alignment right on them. actually i have just created the partition via direct command pvcreate /dev/sda it is fully functionally and i can use it as a partition but when i fdisk -l /dev/sda it shows that the disk is empty. so i am worried that is it the proper way to do it or else i may not end up with consequences. fdisk only reads (as far as I'm aware) PC-style partition tables. If it says the disk is empty, what it's saying is that there's no partition table there. If you had a GPT on there, you'd likely get the same message (actually, newer versions DO detect GPT and print a complaint). Use the right tools for the job. If you have a partition table, read it with fdisk. If you have a PV on there, use LVM tools. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Need suggestions on a backup issue
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:50:53AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: [cut] What test can I code in Bash to determine that there is no disk mounted at this mount point? I'm thinking of testing for the presence of the file lost+found, but is there something better? Two points. 1. See if man mountpoint is suitable 2. Don't re-invent the wheel. There are plenty of people who've solved the backup to a USB disk before you. Some of their work is in debian. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: pidgin ym protocol over ssl
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:01:00PM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: hi, is it possible to configure pidgin to connect to ym via ssl this is because there's an issue at my office where a colleague's message had been logged by a network staff Go to Accounts Manage Accounts. Click on your Y!M account and press modify. Look there for a checkbox such as Use SSL, Connect Securely etc. If there's nothing suitable (disclaimer: I check on Pidgin 2.10.6 for Windows and there's nothing suitable), then no, not directly. As a work-around, though, you might try connecting securely to an XMPP account (Account Manage Accounts New..., set Protocol to XMPP, then under Advanced set Connection security to Require encryption). You can then use a Yahoo transport on the server to connect your XMPP account to your Y!M account. In other words, your connection would be: You -[SSL]- XMPP server -[plain]- Yahoo Server Finding an appropriate XMPP server is beyond the scope of this mailing list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: systemd
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:38:12PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I'm confused, will Debian or will Debian not switch to systemd? As far as I'm aware, there are no plans to switch to systemd at the moment. There are discussions about the possibility of that happening, but at the moment there are problems with systemd that stop it from being the default init system. If those problems are fixed, then systemd MAY become the default - though there may come a better alternative in the mean time. This, of course, doesn't preclude systemd being an alternative init system (which it already is. systemd is installable and usable and many packages are adding support for it). --- Forwarded message --- From: Ralf Mardorf To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Subject: Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:25:40 +0200 On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:54:08 +0200, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 05:57:46PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: Is debian switching That remains to be seen. If Debian intends to continue support for Hurd and KfreeBSD they can't move to systemd -- which relies on Linux kernel features to work. That debian has a disincentive is not the same as Arch having a disincentive, tho'. I would rather we use DJB's daemontools as process 1 but I know exactly how these arguments tend to go. http://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installation We talked about it on Debian mailing list, IICR Debian will switch, but I might be mistaken. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.whx45yq4qhadp0@suse11-2 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Call for testers - perl script to connect to the Juniper VPN
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 03:00:24PM +0200, Alex Samorukov wrote: Hello, I wrote a Perl script to connect to the Juniper VPN from Linux. It works without Java and requires perl only. I used wireshark to analyze management protocol of the juniper binary to emulate java GUI behaviour. If you are using Juniper VPN with Java client and want to test my script - it is available at http://smallhacks.wordpress.com/2012/07/15/jvpn-perl-script-to-connect-to-the-juniper-vpn-with-host-checker-enabled/ . Comments and bugreports are welcome. Also i am going to do debian package, after some positive reports. Thank you, and I hope that it is not offtopic in this list. Am I right in thinking that this doesn't completely replace Juniper's software, but is more akin to mad-scientist's connection script? Does that mean it's still limited to i386 architecture? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bug report?: Oh no! Something has gone wrong.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:13:00PM +0100, Ludovic Tolhurst-Cleaver wrote: Dear Fellow Debian Users, I'm trying to decide if and how to report a possible bug in Debian. I'm running Wheezy (actually it calls itself wheezy/sid when I switch to tty1 etc.) on a 64-bit Toshiba Satellite Pro A300D laptop with an Intel Core2Duo chip. Debian had started X and was just about to get to the login dialog box when I happened to plug in the laptop's power. This immediately resulted in a graphical error screen showing a 'sad-faced PC' image and the following message: I can't say I'm aware of this image, but the timing of it suggests to me it's a bug in ?dm (gdm3, kdm or whatever display manager you use). Probably an ACPI event happened which either GDM or X wasn't expecting. Do you, perhaps have one of these dual-mode graphics cards on that laptop? If so, the system probably switched to the high-power card at that point and either it wasn't initialised correctly or the low-power one was no longer available for X to display on. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cron.daily error
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 06:13:31AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: Since I have upgraded to Squeeze, I get and e-mail with the following line in it every morning. Would somebody be able to point me in the right direction to figure out what file in cron.daily is giving me this error? -su: source: not found I imagine that your system shell has been changed to dash (run ls -l /bin/sh to check). Dash is somewhat stricter in its implementation of POSIX than bash (it's main focus is to be lighter than bash so as to allow quicker booting). POSIX declares that the source command should check the path when given a filename without path components. Bash relaxes this somewhat by also checking the current directory. Dash DOESN'T do this. That is, assuming somefile.sh is in the current directory, source somefile.sh will work in bash, but not dash. To fix this bashism, use source ./somefile.sh. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Epson Perfection 1240U USB scanner device not found
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 05:31:40PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 01:44:17PM +, Camale??n wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:23:57 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: [cut] Ah, then the scanner group was already present (that's correct) but your user should have been added to it automatically (I guess), at least that's how it is on my system (wheezy) and I have no TWAIN device attached to the netbook (no scanner, multi-function device, dsc camera... nothing). How could the sane package install scripts know which users are to be included in the scanner group? They could ask? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
hping3 documentation error? [was: Re: hello,I have a problem]
Please use a more descriptive subject. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 05:40:19PM +0800, Gerald Suen wrote: man hping3 -i --interval wait (uX for X microseconds, for example -i u1000) --fast alias for -i u1 (10 packets for second) --faster alias for -i u1000 (100 packets for second) --flood sent packets as fast as possible. Don't show replies. 1second=1000milliseconds 1millisecond=1000microseconds so,I think it so be: -i --interval wait (uX for X microseconds, for example -i u1000) --fast alias for -i u1 (100 packets for second) --faster alias for -i u1000 (1000 packets for second) --flood sent packets as fast as possible. Don't show replies. That seems sensible to me (additionally, I'd use packets per second). Report it as a wishlist bug against the hping3 package. For bonus points, supply a patch. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Error in gnome when logged in as root
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:20:48PM +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: What is this error in gnome - An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Encryption Key Manager. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:[1]omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 This happens when i log in using root account and when i try to open seahorse or gnome-power etc . How to clear this error? Simple. Don't use Gnome as root. You should NOT be logging in as root unless you have a VERY good reason. If you need to run a specific application as root, use gksu or gksudo to elevate your privileges for that one application. If you DO have a good reason for using Gnome as root, by all means let us know and we may be able to help. It would be good if you can email me directly on this account..for some reasons i do not get replies to this list in my gmail inbox, -- Harshad Joshi References Visible links 1. http://omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: epub or mobi
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 04:40:09AM +, T o n g wrote: Hi, If I can choose, which version of ebook I should pick, the epub or mobi files, and why? According to a moment's reading of Wikipedia (By the way, the internet is a GREAT source of knowledge that you yourself can go and find!), choose EPUB over Mobipocket as the former is free (as in beer AND as in speech) while the latter is only free as in beer. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bug report to icedove or iceweasel??
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 11:19:18AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Needing to send in bug report as I cannot find the answer to this specific problem. As explained before, I can get to Iceweasel from Icedove when I click on a link but I can only get to my homepage. I have changed homepages to see if that may be the problem but it makes no difference. Example of problem. In email, there is a link to [1]Debian Support. I click on it and Iceweasel opens up not to Debian Support but to my homepage, ex. [2]Google Search. It makes no difference what the link in Icedove I click on, my homepage opens up. Never the actual link. I have gone thru all the various iterations in Icedove, etc. of getting Iceweasel to be my browser but it always had been but I did the changes anyway thinking one of them may actually be the problem. That is NOT the problem. I went to the bugreport page for Debian and they said to bring it to you all to have you tell me who I should send in the bug report to as everytime I do a google search all I get is how to set up iceweasel as my browser and that is not the problem. I would suggest eliminating one or other from the equation to see who's at fault: * If you open a link in another application, does Iceweasel open it correctly? * If you set your default browser to be something else (e.g. chromium), does Icedove correctly open the link in that? Hopefully one of those will fail, showing where to report the bug. If both tests SUCCEED, though, you've got some weird interaction between icedove and iceweasel going on. In which case, I'd suggest talking to the Mozilla team at pkg-mozilla-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: replacing GDM with a script
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 12:22:27PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running 3 Linux distros with Sid as my main one. I am curious to know if it's possible to replace GDM with a BASH script. The issue is complicated because I run 3 window managers with Sid and a similar situation with the other 2 distros. Googling the problem hasn't turned up much of interest. I am in Sid most of the time, so the script could only apply here. Does anyone have any suggestions? With all the same functionality? Unlikely. As a simple mystartx session? Probably. Try looking at how the simpler display-managers work (lightdm, slim, nodm etc). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MS office communication server substitute in linux
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:51:42AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any substitute of office communication server in Linux for inter office communication, voice, video, chat file transfer (support centralized environment not just work on broadcast for e.g unlike outlook messanger). Have a look at XMPP. The Jingle extension allows Voice and Video conversations and the Proxy65 extension allows file transfers. As with OCS, you can run your own server for access only by office staff. Prosody is a good server to start with, but ejabberd is somewhat more powerful and scalable. In terms of client, any XMPP client will do (Pidgin, Empathy etc). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address when adding extra ips to an interface
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:10:16PM +0200, Tóth Tibor Péter wrote: Hello! I have some problem when I'm trying to add an extra IP to an interface. My config: # cat /etc/network/interfaces [cut] #ifconfig eth0:0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address The strange thing is that sometimes works, sometimes not. if I do this way, it works every time: #ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 What cause the SIOCSIFFLAGS error messaeg? It exists on Debian 5 and Debian 6 as well. Might it simply be that the address already exists? If you don't NEED the extra interface names (ethX:Y names are deprecated these days), try the following /e/n/i auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 post-up ip addr add 192.168.0.100/24 dev eth0 post-up ip addr add 192.168.0.101/24 dev eth0 pre-down ip addr del 192.168.0.100/24 dev eth0 pre-down ip addr del 192.168.0.101/24 dev eth0 or, thanks to http://wertarbyte.de/debian/ifupdown/addresses: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 addresses 192.168.0.100/24 192.168.0.101/24 Ezen üzenet és annak bármely csatolt anyaga bizalmas, jogi védelem alatt áll, a nyilvános közléstől védett. Az üzenetet kizárólag a címzett, illetve az általa meghatalmazottak használhatják fel. Ha Ön nem az üzenet címzettje, úgy kérjük, hogy telefonon, vagy e-mail-ben értesítse erről az üzenet küldőjét és törölje az üzenetet, valamint annak összes csatolt mellékletét a rendszeréből. Ha Ön nem az üzenet címzettje, abban az esetben tilos az üzenetet vagy annak bármely csatolt mellékletét lemásolnia, elmentenie, az üzenet tartalmát bárkivel közölnie vagy azzal visszaélnie. This message and any attachment are confidential and are legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please phone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment of it from your system. Please note that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted by this e-mail or to anyone other than the recipient designated above by the sender is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. Hmm. I'm NOT the entity to whom this message was addressed. Sorry. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: which one is faster?
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 03:14:50PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, It's a bit big data to transfer, around 1.1 T, from one server to another server. I checked that rsync is faster than scp, but in my situations rsync has elapsed for 1 hour, I guess the network is also a problem, Here I wish to know are there some tools (better default) can use for fast transferring, regardless the security reason, my data is just some data, no need special security care. In addition to the suggestions mentioned by other people, consider the compressability of your data. I don't believe it's possible to definitely predict the trade-offs here (it depends on how well the data compresses, basically, but also on how your CPUs compare to the network bandwidth, but you may find that spending some time compressing the data reduces the overall time. In that case try, the following. On the receiver: $ nc -l -p 12345 | $COMP -d | pv outfile and on the sender: $ pv infile | $COMP | nc receiver 12345 where $COMP is your preferred streaming compressor (gzip, bzip2 and xz should all work nicely here). By the way, pv (package: pv) is a useful pipeline-viewer and will show you progress (on the sending side) as well as throughput levels. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian showing less RAM
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 03:52:49PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i am using debian 6.0.4. i have 8GB of ram installed in a server 2GB x 4. bios also shows 8 GB. however top only shows 2gb or RAM top - 15:48:29 up 16 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Tasks: 90 total, 1 running, 89 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.1%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.6%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2273280k total,79768k used, 2193512k free, 2292k buffers Swap: 15623088k total,0k used, 15623088k free,45456k cached What kernel are you using? Either you have one that isn't enable to see the extra ram or, as has happened on the list in the past, you have bad modules :) Secondly. root@lion:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/pve--vg-root 442G 550M 419G 1% / i dont know if its normal but things are confusing me a bit. i have working space of 442G used 550MB and available 419MB there almost 22GB is missing. 5% of 442GB = 22.2GB. So that's your reserved portion. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian showing less RAM
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 05:18:18PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i was using i686 kernel now i just updated amd64 it worked aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64 root@lion:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 8134920 833728051548 0 2272 17392 -/+ buffers/cache: 637088071212 Swap: 15623088 0 15623088 but my second question about disk space is still a confusiong. please help Many Linux file systems (ext2/3/4, definitely. I'm not sure about others), reserve 5% of the space for root. That means that when the disk is showing 100% full, root can still, say, compress a run-away log file and then delete it. You can either live with that safety net, or use a tool such as tune2fs to adjust it. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i am using debian 6.0.4. i have 8GB of ram installed in a server 2GB x 4. bios also shows 8 GB. however top only shows 2gb or RAM top - 15:48:29 up 16 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Tasks: 90 total, 1 running, 89 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.1%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.6%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2273280k total,79768k used, 2193512k free, 2292k buffers Swap: 15623088k total,0k used, 15623088k free,45456k cached root@lion:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 2273280 797682193512 0 2292 45456 -/+ buffers/cache: 320202241260 Swap: 15623088 0 15623088 Secondly. root@lion:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/pve--vg-root 442G 550M 419G 1% / i dont know if its normal but things are confusing me a bit. i have working space of 442G used 550MB and available 419MB there almost 22GB is missing. please help. Thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmm_pvwxn9ddsq3vvbs9vsmtu96kjnfgejkpicsob_k...@mail.gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 04:37:01PM +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 9 August 2012 15:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:31:05 +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote: [cut] A lot of people have been using XFCE already, so the decision may have come from the package survey info. Fair point. However, comparing[3] popcon results for xfce4-session[1] and gnome-session[2], less than 4% of debian users use[4] xfce, compared to a little over 16% who use gnome. Hmm. My numbers seem a little suspect there. Is a graphical session REALLY used by such a small majority of the userbase? [1] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=xfce4-session [2] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=gnome-session [3] I'm sure I've seen comparison graphs, but can't find how to do that. [4] use = Vote = number of people who use this package regularly signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 04:58:55PM +0100, Laurence Hurst wrote: On 09/08/2012 16:50, Darac Marjal wrote: Fair point. However, comparing[3] popcon results for xfce4-session[1] and gnome-session[2], less than 4% of debian users use[4] xfce, compared to a little over 16% who use gnome. Hmm. My numbers seem a little suspect there. Is a graphical session REALLY used by such a small majority of the userbase? You seem to be suggesting that xfce4-session and gnome-session are the only desktop environments - I, for example, use pekwm at the moment (and openbox before that) so will not be in either that 20% (assuming no overlap, which is probably wrong). Looking at xserver-xorg[0], the most popular X server at the moment, it is installed on 52% of systems partaking in the popularity contest. I suspect this is a reasonable reflection on the number of graphical installs in popcon as a lot of production headless servers will probably not be reporting stats (whereas my headless boxes at home, which do not have an X server installed, do). Because of this I expect the real number of graphical desktop (compared to non-desktop installs) is less than 52%. OK. Perhaps I was a little lax in my language there. xserver-xorg-core is probably the more accurate package for uses graphics. xserver-xorg is a meta package which brings in all the drivers. But if you want a slimmer system, you'd probably remove them. You'd still use xserver-xorg-core, though. 37% of users use that regularly. A little less than twice the above numbers. So the remaining 17% (xserver-xorg-core minus gnome-session minus xfce4-session) of users use another session manager (such as kde) or no session manager at all. Still, while this is a big change, it seems like it will affect only a minority of users. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Is this [1] true? I welcome this. Partly. See http://lists.debian.org/jvu3q0$kgo$1...@dough.gmane.org and the ongoing thread. However, I don't know whether you can really say Debian+GNONE3. Debian is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Logging ISP Download Speed.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:19:06AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 08/15/2012 06:52 AM, Weaver wrote: What's the best programme to employ with regard to logging traffic speed from my ISP? To achieve this, you will have to load continuously your connection in order to get the max reached. I'm not entirely sure this is true. If your router has a statistics page (or a telnet interface providing such information), it's possible to use a package such as munin to log[1] the sync rate of your line periodically. This can be graphed for evidential purposes. The sync rate of the line should be sufficient information in most cases. If you're synchronised at, say 8Mb down and 1Mb up, then that should be close to what you can achieve. You can expect a little below that due to overheads, but if you're experiencing significantly worse throughput than that, then there's a problem somewhere in the network. I probably ought to point out, though, that most ISPs advertise their broadband as up to X meg, and you may find that anything between 56kpbs and that figure are legally acceptable (any slower and it's not broadband). [1] I'll leave it up to the reader to work out how to screen scrape their router's statistics page. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:21:23AM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Dear usernixes, According to: http://www.tp-link.com/lk/article/?id=171 There are routers (coincidentally, I have one of them) that accept a new device to establish a wireless connection without having to use password. The method is simple: 1- Push the QSS button on the router. 2- Run the QSS.EXE program on your windows machine in 2 minutes after you pressed the QSS button. That is it! You are now connected! But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? The generic term for this is Wifi Protected Setup or WPS. Support isn't terribly well integrated into linux's wireless tools at the moment, but you can install reaver (apt-get install reaver), which should help you get connected. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:36:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Fri 17 Aug 2012 at 10:52:30 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:21:23AM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Dear usernixes, According to: http://www.tp-link.com/lk/article/?id=171 There are routers (coincidentally, I have one of them) that accept a new device to establish a wireless connection without having to use password. The method is simple: 1- Push the QSS button on the router. 2- Run the QSS.EXE program on your windows machine in 2 minutes after you pressed the QSS button. That is it! You are now connected! But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? The generic term for this is Wifi Protected Setup or WPS. Support isn't terribly well integrated into linux's wireless tools at the moment, but you can install reaver (apt-get install reaver), which should help you get connected. Why is a brute force attack program needed to use something which is integrated into wpa_supplicant and wpa_gui? Is it? Last time I looked it wasn't. If wpa_supplicant handles it now, then that's a lot easier. (Perhaps updating the apt summary might've helped me :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Is it possible to hide the ip in ssh connection
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:15:55PM +0800, lina wrote: On Monday 20,August,2012 10:44 PM, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 20.08.2012 17:02, lina wrote: On Monday 20,August,2012 09:59 PM, lina wrote: Hi, I ssh to a server which has 400+ users, active ones around 100. Frankly speaking, I would feel comfortable to hide my IP if possible, any suggestions (I checked the spoof, but seems not positive), Thanks with best regards, Another question, how do I know whether there are some people are attempting to invade my laptop, my username, ip are all exposed there. If you have SSHd and that is what you are worried about, grep ssh from /var/log/auth.log . BTW, what is the 172.21.48.161, seems in the old auth.log* also has this one. You need to ask, not what is, but who is. More specifically: $ whois 172.21.48.161 [...] NetRange: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 CIDR: 172.16.0.0/12 OriginAS: NetName:PRIVATE-ADDRESS-BBLK-RFC1918-IANA-RESERVED NetHandle: NET-172-16-0-0-1 Parent: NET-172-0-0-0-0 NetType:IANA Special Use [...] In other words, it's someone else on your network. [cut] Thanks again, Best regards, I'm not sure does that require loglevel being VERBOSE in sshd_config. And you might also want to install something like SSHGuard (package sshguard) to protect your SSHd and other services, which it protects from attackers. http://www.sshguard.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/503254ab.8030...@gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Detecting the format of a data stream.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:08:11PM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: http://www.learner.org/faq/faq_broadband.html#broadband1 informs, The VoDs play in either Windows Media or Flash format. Users of Internet Explorer on Windows will generally see the VoDs in Windows Media format. Users of other browsers on Windows machines, or users on other platforms, will generally see Flash. ... How do I view the videos on my iPad? Since most of the videos are in Flash, you'll have to download an app that allows you to play Flash on your device. Hopefully that really means ... most of the videos are in [WMV and] Flash, Iceweasel should receive the WMV but Flash might be sent. Is tshark recommended to detect whether it is WMV or Flash on the connection? Is there a simpler means? Try mplayer -identify http://example.com/stream;. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:21:50PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! Virtualbox on my Wheezy x86_64 is not showing 64 bit for guest and guest x86_64 OS installer displays CPU mismatch error. My CPU is a E5200 which does not have VT support. Virtualbox page says On 64-bit hosts (which typically come with hardware virtualization support), 64-bit guest operating systems are always supported regardless of settings, so you can simply install a 64-bit operating system in the guest.. It is not clear for me that 64 bit host is enough or VT is required for 64 bit guests. The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? If I change the CPU am I need to reinstall Virtualbox? When you specify the guest operating system type, do you have the option for 64-bit OSes? When creating a new Virtual machine, if you select, say, Debian, you'll get a 32-bit virtual processor. What you need to do is select Debian (64-bit), if available, and then your guest can access the 64-bit capabilities. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hibernate: swap on SSD = not fast
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:00:46AM -0500, hvw59601 wrote: Hi, Mindful of what Stan Hoeppner in various posts has written about SSD I thought I'd put swap on an SSD I installed (Samsung SSD 830 128GB) in order to get superfast hibernate. I might be wrong here, but isn't the key benefit of SSDs that they have a tiny access time? But that their read speed is about the same as a normal disk (also, I might be wrong, but I understand their write speed is average). Hibernation, in contrast, is about writing out (and reading back) a linear stream of data. So, in summary, while SSDs may well help with swap performance, I'd not expect them to be brilliant at hibernation. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hibernate: swap on SSD = not fast
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 01:32:16PM +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: Le vendredi 24 août 2012 à 12:04 +0100, Darac Marjal a écrit : I might be wrong here, but isn't the key benefit of SSDs that they have a tiny access time? But that their read speed is about the same as a normal disk (also, I might be wrong, but I understand their write speed is average). This would have been true some years ago: Comparison of average sequential reading rates (HDD of 2012 and SSD of 2011): http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-charts-2011/AS-SSD-Sequential-Read,2782.html http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2012/-01-Read-Throughput-Average-h2benchw-3.16,2901.html Please note that I compared SSD with desktop HDD: mobile HDDs are generally slower. About write speed, the very best HDD gave 164.06MB/s on average while *most* SSDs are above 150MB/s and the best reaches a few MB/s less than 400. Ah, my knowledge was out of date. I'll try and squirrel away that factoid :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Standard for soft return by automatic word and line wrap
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 03:35:52AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 08:31:06PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I used gvim, but kate and gedit and even leafpad and others are more comfortable. IIRC common shortcuts didn't work with gvim, the only difference to vi(m) was, that I didn't need to know all the commands by heart. The trick to using vi(m) etc, is not to try and learn everything by heart, just start using it and it gradually becomes second nature. Start with vimtutor, and read through the documentation, but don't try and learn it by heart or you will soon be overwhelmed and confused. :) Or even have a go at http://vim-adventures.com/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: need kernel update for lenny ..
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 02:33:49PM +0200, Meike Stone wrote: Hello dear list, I've running an Debian Lenny and can't upgrade to Squeeze for the moment because of special software ... [cut] The Server is going to migrate to new software (and Debian) in three month, but until then i need a stable system. So does anyone has an idea how to solve the problem? You have two options as far as I can see. You can either install kernel 2.6.32 from lenny-backports (add deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main to your sources.list) or you should be able to compile your own kernel by using the instructions in the kernel-handbook[1]. [1] http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-kernel-org- package HTH signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Query about failure of Debian 6 64 bit to swap properly
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 01:28:05PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Bob Proulx wrote: [cut] I enable javascript in Opera, as I use it for most online financial transactions, including online banking, and, of the (more?) major web browsers, as far as I am aware, opera is the only one that has not yet been breached as far as security is concerned. I have seen multiple CERT advisories for the Mozilla and Microsoft web browsers. Be aware that fewer advisories may or may not be a good thing here. Opera is proprietary (closed source) so the only way to test it for security problems is to attack the compiled browser. Admittedly, this is the same with Internet Explorer, though but that has a higher market share. [cut[ I had understood that the operating system (in the case or Linux, the kernel?) controls memory management, so that, depending on the settings, once a threshold, for example, 50% of RAM, is used, the operating system would start paging memory, using the allocated swap space, to provide system stability until both swap space and RAM are totally used, then crash, rather than just using up all of the RAM and mostly ignoring the swap space and crashing the system, without significantly using the swap space. No. The Linux philosophy is that you paid good money to have all that nice, fast RAM in your system so why not make use of it. There will usually be a certain amount of RAM free, but the kernel prefers to keep things like buffers, disk caches etc filling your RAM rather than needlessly discarding them (If you discard cached data and need it again, you have to take the hit of reading from disk. But if you need the RAM for something else such as an application, then THAT's the time to discard some cached data). However, as you've noted, once you run out of RAM, the kernel should start moving the less-frequently used pages into Swap. In theory, the OOM-killer should only come into play when both are full. However, I can see a couple of situations where that may not happen: * A single application (Opera, in this case) is requesting more memory than you have RAM. In this case, the rest of the system is swapped out (hence the hideous responsiveness) but not using all of your swap, and eventually the kernel says I'm sorry Dave * You are on a 32-bit system and an application has requested more memory than the kernel can address (3-4GB depending on kernel options). I am apparently wrong. It used to work, much better, with Debian 3 and 3.1; I can't remember much about Debian 4, then, as previously mentioned, I had the problem and the solution as such, with Debian 5, and, now, with Debian 6, memory management appears to simply not work, making Debian 6, at least in the 64 bit version, of the nature of the attributes used to describe the experimental version of Debian. As this appears to be a problem with Opera, have you considered raising the issue with Opera's Support (http://www.opera.com/support/)? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OpenVPN
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 02:06:17AM -0700, cletusjenkins wrote: I'm trying to connect to a VPN service via openVPN. When I try to connect (via network manager's gui) I get an error saying the openvpn service is not running. I do not see any errors in messages, syslog, daemon.log or dmesg about this. When I manually start the service it just says that it is starting, but nothing else. However running ps -ef shows no new processes. Stopping the openvpn service makes no difference in the process list either. I've restarted network-manager and even rebooted to ensure everything is loading properly, but to no avail. To get to my current state i installed: sudo apt-get install openvpn network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome I created the VPN connection with the instructions from the VPN service, but since I can't get the OpenVPN software to even run I don't know what help they can provide. Try adding the following lines to your server's vpn *.conf file: verb 3 log-append /tmp/openvpn.log and restart the openvpn service. If the file doesn't appear then you may have a syntax error in your config. If the file does appear, check it for errors. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: boot image
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:38:56PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, Today I tried to install unetbootin The following packages were installed. extlinux: libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl: memtest86+: os-prober: syslinux: syslinux-common: syslinux-themes-debian: syslinux-themes-debian-wheezy: unetbootin-translations: during boot, it showed those other options, which I don't like, like memory-test, mac OS x 32 mac OS x 64 These would have been added due to in installation of os-prober which scanned your system and found two Operating Installs from a certain fruit-based company. so I purged the installed packages. now the /boot shows me: /boot# ls config-3.2.0-3-amd64 initrd.img-3.3.5 vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-amd64 config-3.3.5 lost+foundvmlinuz-3.3.5 grub System.map-3.2.0-3-amd64 initrd.img-3.2.0-3-amd64 System.map-3.3.5 but weird that the options like mac os 32 mac os 64 still showed in booting interface. btw, they are not working and I don't expect them to work, only with to remove them. But I don't know how to remove. If os-prober is de-installed, you should be able to run update-grub2 as root to regenerate your boot list without the probed entries. If you wish to keep os-prober installed, but not use it, try removing the executable bit from /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober (a dpkg-statoverride entry will make that permanent). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question
On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 06:23:20PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Yes, alsamixer finds a sound card as does amix -l and yes it's the only sound card installed. On Mon, 3 Sep 2012, lee wrote: If you're using ALSA, then you should probably be aware that /dev/mixer is not an ALSA device name. ALSA uses, say, /dev/snd/controlC0. If you want to use the deprecated OSS devices, you should ensure that ALSA's OSS-compatibility layer is loaded (modprobe snd_pcm_oss). Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: I ran both aumix -q and rexima and neither were able to find the sound card. Is alsamixer able to find devices, or do some show up when you run aplay -l or aplay -L? Is this the only sound card installed? --- jude jdash...@shellworld.net Adobe fiend for failing to Flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1209031822090.89...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:57:07PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: I just tried: modprobe snd_pcm_oss then tried echo $? and got back a 0 no other output from: modprobe snd_pcm_oss so in order to get that working I will probably have to install alsa-oss. The oss drivers may be completely inappropriate for this card too.On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote: This is perfectly normal behaviour. The GNU philosophy is, usually, to only complain in case of an error. Most tools will NOT output anything (extra) in case of success. If you get no output and the return value is 0, then the module was probed successfully. To confirm that, run lsmod to see that it's loaded; if it isn't, then maybe it loaded correctly and then unloaded due to an error (check your logs. Note that snd_pcm_oss probably won't do that, but some other could, I suppose). Also note that snd_pcm_oss doesn't actually load the OSS sound system, it just provides a compatibility layer so that programs which don't speak ALSA can still use the OSS interface. Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: Yes I have sound. rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards even with several different combinations of items parsed from the relevant lspci line. According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try something like rexima -d /dev/mixer. Parsing strings to rexima or aumix that have been taken from the output of lspci probably isn't the right thing to do. What exactly are you doing, and do you get any error messages? [1]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rexima.1.html --- jude jdash...@shellworld.net Adobe fiend for failing to Flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1209041754100.30...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:24:52PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: unarchive 617940 reopen 617940 thanks This bug still exists. See message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/09/msg9.html and despite that it says there are no followups there are!, starting at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/09/msg9.html The reason(s) for this bug being reopened are all the associated messages. It appears this bug was closed in error. This doesn't look like an error to me. You note that you are able to play videos fine. Have you also raised bugs for mplayer's other auto-detect messages? Such as: [MGA] Couldn't open: /dev/mga_vid [VO_TDFXFB] This driver only supports the 3Dfx Banshee, Voodoo3 and Voodoo 5. [VO_3DFX] Unable to open /dev/3dfx. As you can see, mplayer tries various drivers before it gets to yours. You can either configure your mplayer correctly or put up with it autodetecting. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:13:06PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:55:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected correctly and securely. The speakers are connected correctly to the output of the sound card. I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. Pulseaudio isn't on my system but isn't it a daemon? Wouldn't stopping it allow you to eliminate it as a cause? pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. As for killing the daemon, gnome automatically re-spawns pulseaudio if I kill the daemon. I have to stop gnome. But even then, no output from playing audio CDs and no output from aplay. Yet, gnome can generate sounds. Maddening. If you suspect that pulseaudio is hogging your sound system and that the program you're using also wants to talk to the sound system itself, then you might try re-routing the sound through pulseaudio: $ padsp some-program-that-uses-OSS In the same way that we had a user recently who was trying to use OSS-based programs to talk to ALSA, you may need this compatibility layer to allow your programs to talk to pulseaudio. P.S. I don't know why this would affect cdtool as that should, in theory, bypass any software, but maybe I don't understand sound cards as well as I think. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] web hosting server files
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:25:14PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. Try just http://web.xxx.com/~lina/ Some web servers, when told to serve a directory, will provide a listing of the files in the directory; some will check for index.html first. I'd suggest talking to the webmaster for web.xxx.com and seeing how the web server is configured. If the link I provided above gives you a listing, then look at either turning that feature off or countering it with an index.html page. Once that's done then, no, it should be difficult to find the page without knowing the direct link. However, don't mistake this for security. All it could take is for someone to bookmark the page and suddenly the page is known. By the way, I shan't make any judgements on your hosting provider looking like a porn site :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] web hosting server files
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 07:42:50PM +0800, lina wrote: On Tuesday 11,September,2012 06:35 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:25:14PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. Try just http://web.xxx.com/~lina/ Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~lina/ on this server. Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at www.xxx.edu Port 80 That's good news. By the way, I shan't make any judgements on your hosting provider looking like a porn site :) I gave my words, it's a very decent website. Just let me keep some privacy. The xxx is something I used to substitute something else. Ah, I see. In future, I'd recommend sticking with the preferred documentation host example.com. That's explicitly defined as a host to be used for demonstration/documentation purposes (as are example.net, example.org and so on). If you visit http://example,com, you'll see a nice message stating that the host is for example purposes. If you visit http://www.xxx.com... I suspect the message might not be so polite :) My point is, it's fine to not use your real website, but if you use xxx.com it's not immediately obvious that that's a substitution. If you use example.com, it's rather more clear what's going on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911141755.gc17...@darac.org.uk
Re: hearse crontab message
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:06:12AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Anyone know what this means? 1+ 09/12 Cron DaemonCron root@d-216-36-20-9 perl -we 'sleep rand 3600'; hearse --quiethearse: size of unsigned long is 8 rather than 4 This message doesn't come up every day but does come up a few times a week. It means: * You have the hearse program installed. Hearse is a tool for sharing 'bones' files for the nethack game (a dungeon crawler. When you die, sometimes a bones file is created. Later on, when you play that level again you may find your corpse which can be looted for goodies). Hearse makes your bones files available for other users and provides other user's bones files available to you. In other words, it adds a bit of spice to playing the game. * You are running a 64-bit system. Both nethack and hearse run perfectly well on 32-bit and 64-bit architectures, but at the moment the popularity of nethack on 64-bit is low so the developer of hearse has made the decision not to support 64-bit bones files. As and when the intermediary website supports 64-bit bones files, the message above will go away. Hope that's informative. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: is this hard drive dying?
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 07:48:46AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: 1) The man page of smartctl is not much helpful in figuring out what various fields in the output of smartctl -a stand for. For example, what does fields such as Raw_Read_Error_Rate, Seek_Error_Rate, Hardware_ECC_Recovered, Multi_Zone_Error_Rate mean? Is there any page that describes all these fields in good detail? Actually, the man page has useful information, just perhaps not in a useful format. Data, rather than information. In particular, it details that values in the ATRRIBUTES table are normalised (by the drive firmware) to a VALUE between 1 and 254. Also noted is a THREShold value (between 0 and 254). If an attribute is *less than or equal to* its threshold, it is deemed to have failed. The man page also notes that if this is a Pre-Fail attribute (rather than an Old_age attribute), then this indicates drive failure is imminent. 2) Can someone please tell me if this hard drive is dying. The following is the difference between two smartctl outputs that are a week apart. Bearing the above in mind $diff smartctl_20120905 smartctl_20120912 14c14 Local Time is:Wed Sep 5 21:55:18 2012 EDT --- Local Time is:Wed Sep 12 20:03:10 2012 EDT 58c58 ID ATTRIBUTE FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH Type 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 046Pre-fail Always 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 046Pre-fail Always 100 46, so this is fine 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 099 099 000Old_age Always 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 099 099 000Old_age Always 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000Old_age Always 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000Old_age Always 9 Power_On_Seconds0x0032 023 023 000Old_age Always 9 Power_On_Seconds0x0032 023 023 000Old_age Always 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always These are also all steady and above their threshold. Note, however, that Power_On_Seconds is a little low. It's Old_age so when that reaches 0, you don't need to worry, but you can probably expect that that's what the drive manufacturer believes is the typical life of the drive. 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 069 069 000Old_age Always - 635379 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 100 090 000Old_age Always - 51 (Min/Max 8/62) Here we see that the temperature IS fine, but HAS BEEN slightly towards failure (in other words, it probably got warm). This is nothing too worry about. 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 9258 --- 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 069 069 000Old_age Always - 635384 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 100 090 000Old_age Always - 49 (Min/Max 8/62) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 15601 76,77c76,77 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000Old_age Always - 1038 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x0002 100 100 000Old_age Always - 3732311179847 --- 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000Old_age Always - 5133 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x0002 100 100 000Old_age Always - 2632791622157 And again, these are all well above their threshold. This is a hard drive in Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop. Any help is greatly appreciated. According to SMART, your hard drive is fine. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Ignore package dependency ruby.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 04:56:18PM +0200, Brent Clark wrote:
Hiya
I need to install puppet on one of my machines. Problem is, I
already have Ruby Enterprise, and i don't want to have both on the
same machine.
I'm not familiar with Ruby Enterprise, but I assume it's a
non-packaged version of ruby?
If you see the following:
num-web01:/tmp# aptitude -t squeeze-backports install puppet facter git-core
The following NEW packages will be installed:
augeas-lenses{a} debconf-utils{a} facter libaugeas-ruby1.8{a}
libaugeas0{a} libruby{a} libruby1.8{a} libshadow-ruby1.8{a} puppet
puppet-common{a} ruby{a} ruby-json{a} ruby1.8{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
git-core
1 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove and 51 not upgraded.
Ruby is looking to be pulled in.
Would anyone know of a way to exclude / ignore Ruby?
You have a number of options:
* See if Ruby Enterprise is available as a .deb (this is the best
option as it will register with the package manager)
* See if Ruby Enterprise is available as some other package which can
be converted using alien.
* If you installed Ruby Enterprise using the typical ./configure;
make; make install, consider replacing the final step with
checkinstall.
Note, however, that these may not provide all the right lib...
dependencies, though.
So, as a last resort, you can use equivs packages
(http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html) which
will allow you to create a dummy package, letting the package system
know that, yes, you DO actually have something that provides ruby.
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Re: BIOS
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53:17PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, I reboot several times but still can't enter into the BIOS menu, I tried F2, ESC, F9. http://wiki.debian.org/BIOS Here the DEL == Delete ? Yes, as opposed to the backspace key. If in doubt, check the manual for your motherboard/computer. That will tell you how to enter the BIOS menu. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound very *very* quiet on Debian.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:17:44PM -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote: Hello everyone! I have a conundrum for you. Today I had rebooted into Windows to take care of something and when I booted right back into debian, my sound became very very very quiet. To confirm my hardware wasn't on the fritz, I rebooted back into Windows to be greeted with normal volume. Back in Linux I double checked and found, indeed, all my relevant channels (Master, PCM, and Front.) were maxed out. Later in alsamixer I unmuted and maxed out every channel I could find, input and output. No dice. Any ideas on why ALSA is suddenly outputting my sound so very quietly despite my volume levels being all the way up? There are two possibilities I can think of. One is that you're using pulseaudio and not checking its volume level (to confirm this, start alsamixer and press F6 to select a different 'card'). Alternatively, the windows driver might know about some control on your sound card that ALSA doesn't. Check the ALSA webpage for information about your sound card (you didn't say what it was) and see if anyone's reported bugs. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: md5sum How-To for Debian iso download
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 05:53:19PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: Hi Members, Been at this for quite some time. I'm new to the application called md5sum.exe thus please be patient. I researched the how-to and attempted to verify the debian netinst file called, debian-6.0.5-i386-inetinst.iso that I downloaded yesterday. I'm using windows 2000 and windows 7 to learn the process of verifying that the file I downloaded is in fact error free. I went into the command prompt (cmd) in windows and attempted to execute the md5sum.exe file to check the iso file I downloaded. I downloaded the debian iso file to my desktop and installed the md5Sum.exe as per recommended (in system32) folder. I'm not sure I'm typing the correct path. Hello Wally, You don't tell us what errors you get (if any), so it's a little difficult to say what you're doing wrong (for example, you might be doing things right, but not understanding the output). You say you've copied md5sum.exe to your %WINDIR%\system32 folder, so it should be in your path now. CD to the folder where your ISO and MD5 files are, then type md5sum -c Somefile.md5 (without the quotes). The MD5 file will contain the name of the file to check (the ISO) and the expected MD5. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Checksum for iso image netinst i386
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 07:38:37AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 09/26/2012 07:00 PM, Wally Lepore wrote: I'm looking for a complete tutorial that explains how to accomplish this otherwise simple procedure that had become difficult for me. Instead of worrying so much about verifying the checksum, you could have used your time to simply try to install Debian. If it failed for some strange reason, then there could have been a problem downloading the file (unlikely) or burning it to cd (more likely). If it worked, you'd already have your running system. That depends on WHY he's wanting to verify it. Either he's checking to see that the download is complete and correct or he's checking that what's he's downloaded is what Debian provided. It's entirely possible for someone to upload a malicious ISO that runs correctly, yet installs a backdoor (see, for example, the recent news about phpMyAdmin). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Elegant solution for network-dependent cifs/smb mounting?
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 02:45:26PM +0300, Johannes Graumann wrote: Hi, I am looking for a debian- (and optimally kde-) compatible solution that would allow me to mount cifs/smb network drives ONLY if on the network where they are expected to exist. I there was a solution that would upon attempted access to adrive a) check whether on the right network b) check whether the corresponding server is up c) if not b) was able to WakeOnLan the server - and wait for/monitor its sucessful boot d) mount the drive That would be the perfect solution ... Perhaps have a look at whereami. That is a set of scripts that fire when you connect to a network. It can identify which network you're on (for example, you got a DHCP response and it was in the range x.x.x.x to x.x.x.y). I'm fairly certain there are tests for can I reach server Foo?, and it wouldn't be too hard to add can I etherwake server Foo?. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: aptitude interpretation of dialog
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 05:49:29AM -0700, james gray wrote: after the initial dialog received from #aptitude safe-upgrade there was at the end.� the following : Need to get O B of archives. After unpacking O B will be used. after that dialog, the command line was handed back� Question: what is O B. Zero bytes. In other words, nothing needed to be downloaded and, after installation (of nothing), no extra space would be needed. This either means there are no new packages, or that you've already downloaded the packages and the new packages won't take up any extra space on your drive. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:20:16AM -0500, cr...@gtek.biz wrote: Good morning, When I ssh into a remote system, I am able to see what is happening on VT2 by entering the command 'cat /dev/vcs2'. I tried using tail -f to get a continuous output of the console, but it fails to ever update. Is it possible to watch another VT in real time over ssh? Thanks, Craig Try the vtgrab package. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Google Cloud Print
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:26:25AM -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: Has anybody successfully added Google Cloud Print to CUPS on Debian? �I've googled it, poked around a little bit, but couldn't find a good tutorial. Which way are you trying to go? Are you trying to access your printers from GCP (in which case try http://www.mutaku.com/wp/index.php/2011/02/serving-a-printer-to-google-cloud-print-from-linux/), or are you trying to send print jobs to GCP (in which case, try http://www.niftiestsoftware.com/2011/10/15/printing-to-google-cloud-print-using-cups/). Those were the first and third web-search results for Google Cloud Print Cups. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: tmux and at
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:10:00PM +0200, lee wrote: Hi, can someone verify that when you create an at job from within a terminal (rxvt) in tmux, you get sent an email with , | sh: 16: cs-window-active=10: not found | sh: 16: export: cs-window-active: bad variable name ` instead of that the job is executed as it's supposed to because apparently tmux sets an environment variable called cs-window-active? Well, not quite the same situation here: putty - tmux instead of your rxvt - tmux, but I don't THINK the terminal is at fault here (especially as you've said you've run at from within a bare rxvt). You might want to look at your tmux.conf to see if you've got a bad line in there, or you've setenvd something when you actually meant to use it plain. As for the specific problem, I believe dashes aren't allowed in variable names. When 'at' was invoked, it copied in your environment so that the script you gave it could be run fairly similarly. When the time arrives, it tries to set those values again but, as you can see, borks. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: virtual consoles
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 07:08:49AM -0700, james gray wrote: Does any one know of - info source to set up virtual consoles in the network install of Debian Squeeze 6.0� that comes from here: [1]http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ it is installed and functional. I am not using a GUI.� I am using the command line only. if i do press simultaneously the ctrl or alt and any one of the f1 through f6 keys the buzzer buzzes. v consoles - no functionality. i have seen /etc/ConsoleKit and did do a internet search with words: debian squeeze /etc/ConsoleKit and see that it tracks user actions. i also see /etc/console-setup� and did a search on that also a lot of chatter on fonts and migrate from Lenny bugs with no fruit in set up or configure. �any assistance� OK. You've been following a bit of a red-herring there, but that's only to be expected. Virtual Terminals, themselves are controlled by the kernel, but most relevant is the program that runs on the virtual terminal and asks for your login details. This is called a getty and is configured in /etc/inittab. You should see a series of lines such as: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 The first colon-separated field is a label. The second states which run-levels the program should run in, the third is a command to init and the fourth is the program to run. So, as you can see, in my case I get six VTs in runlevel 2 (my default). So, firstly, check that you have these lines. If you don't have that many, then, obviously you can't switch to those that you don't have. Next, make sure you're pressing CTRL+ALT+Fx (where x is the number of the VT you want to go to). If that still doesn't work, try the chvt program from the kbd package. sudo chvt 1 SHOULD take you to VT 1. If that works, but the key-combination doesn't, then you may have a keyboard configuration issue. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: retrieving a multi-media file
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 07:58:06AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Any ideas of how to retrieve a multi-media file from here? http://www.tlcentre.sfu.ca/archive/convocation/2012/ A click on the first link makes Iceweasel show the directory, http://www.tlcentre.sfu.ca/archive/convocation/2012/2012-06-12_convocation-pm_h/ rather than a file. Does that second link open a page with a flash player on (that's what I get in Chrome)? If so, there's your video. Or does it show a directory listing (in which case, are any of the files the video you want)? Finally, have you tried contacting the site owner (http://www.sfu.ca/contact/) to see if they'll send you the video as a file? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Laggy when viewing youtube video in fullscreen mode
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:18:46AM -0700, houkensjtu wrote: Hi debianer! I installed debian on my new laptop, the lenovo x121e. I have no problem viewing 720p videos using vlc player. Everything is also fine when viewing youtube in window mode, however if I switch to fullscreen mode, it becomes quite laggy. I believe it's not because my hardware capability. Here is my lsb_release: [cut] and I am using the Chromium browser. Any idea? http://xkcd.com/619/ Try downloading the video file and playing it using a native player such as mplayer. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fglrx driver
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:43:32PM +0400, Roman V.Leon. wrote: Gents and Ladies :-) please advise. I have an HP notebook with Ati Radeon 4200 GPU on board and sometimes i like to play old good windows games with help of wine while my little daughter is sleeping. But recently a real disaster had happened, ATI dropped a support of Radeon 4xxx cards and after update i was oblige to install a radeon driver instead of fglrx. Unfortunately this driver doesn't allow me to play Heroes of MM V. I tried to return to previous version of fglrx-driver(from snapshots.debian.org repo), but didn't succeed in it because driver depends on many packages including Xorg and so forth. I also tried fglrx-legacy-driver from experimental repository, but it hangs my system. Could you suggest please what steps i should do to manage my radeon working as it was before. My debian version is wheezy, current version of radeon driver which i see in the repo is 1:12-6+point-1. ^^ FYI, I don't see this version at http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-radeon Did you install the non-free firmware along with the radeon driver? Did Heroes of MM V report any errors or is performance simply lacking? It is really important because i can't eat, i'm always in a bad mood, i'm bad with women and i'm suffering from insomnia without my old good games :-))) Thank you in advance. If it's that important to you, why not install Windows alongside Linux and boot into it to play the games? P.S. Please do not advise any pills. % apt-cache show pills N: Unable to locate package pills E: No packages found -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Adding user to dual boot laptop
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 04:53:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have a Toshiba Qosmio with 2 60 GB hard drives, one with Windows XP and the other with Debian Squeeze. I just decided to add my wife as a user to the linux side. For some reason the login screen won't work. I set up her account in passwd and group and I set up her home directory. I can log her in as an su user with no problem. When I re-boot the system and the splash screen comes up (KDE4), I can enter her name and password but the system rejects the pass word. I've checked everything about 3 times and can find nothing wrong. I would guess that I have missed some niggally detail. The Windows XP side works fine. Any ideas? Check the uid of your wife's new account (type id alice - to use a common pseudonym - in a terminal). If the uid is less than 1000 or greater than 2, KDM may be rejecting the account because it's deemed to be a system account. You could also try switching to a virtual terminal (press Ctrl+Alt+F1 at the KDM login) and login as her there. Perhaps you'll get an error from PAM (the authentication system) which KDM wasn't passing on. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Util-linux package was removed and the system is not bootable.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:44:20PM +0100, ozhan fenerci wrote: Dear List, I know I am not supposed to delete util-linux but it was removed by the command apt-get remove util-linux'. After I rebooted the computer, the grub shows no linux boot disk. I wonder how I can recover my system back. I am using debian testing/386. util-linux is marked as Essential. This means that you SHOULD have been given a bit fat warning that what you were about to do would likely break your system - which it did. If you didn't get such a warning, please, PLEASE raise a bug against the apt package. If you DID get the warning and you proceeded anyway (it shouldn't have been easy), then... well.. Try a live CD :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: PulseAudio sound issues
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:21:54AM -0300, Alejandro Santos wrote: Hi, I'm using Debian Wheezy Testing on both my desktop computer and my Laptop. On the Laptop the sound works fine, but on the desktop I can't play two or more sounds at the same time, for example while watching a video on VLC, hitting pause, then opening a video on YouTube. Other problem is: after watching a video on VLC and closing VLC, I have to wait 20 seconds to open a new VLC program since otherwise the sound coming out of the speakers will be garbage. Is your VLC configured to use Pulseaudio? You'll get best results with Pulseaudio using an all-or-nothing approach. Since after killing the PulseAudio daemon with pulseaudio -k the problems goes away, it is my strong opinion that this is a PulseAudio issue. My workaround so far was to remove the execution permissions on PulseAdio with: chmod a-x /usr/bin/pulseaudio I have two questions: 1. How can I debug this problem? I'd like to file an appropiate bug on the corresponding bug tracker. Probably your first action is to determine which package is at fault. Try playing a sound with paplay and then playing it again within 20 seconds. If you hear garbage the second time, then it's probably a pulseaudio problem. If you don't hear problems, then it probably IS a VLC issue. 2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me as a user over good ol' ALSA? Due to various differences of opinion gnome-core isn't as minimal as its title might have you believe. If you need Gnome without pulseaudio, try removing the gnome-core package, but add everything it depends on. In answer to your other question, though, Pulseaudio is a networked sound server. It has a lot more capability than ALSA does such as the ability to stream audio over a network, the ability to (fairly) easily manage multiple sources AND sinks (that is, you can replicate 4.0 surround sound using two sound cards, or even two computers). See the wikipedia article for a nice intro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Several Installation Problems
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:30:17AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just converted my 64 bit Linux computer to Debian 6.0.5/KDE 4.4.5 (retaining the Gnome desktop) and have several problems with which I really need help. Although i have been using Linux since about 1993, I am neither a software nor hardware person, but rather a user. Hence, I would ask the readers forbearance. Not a problem. Many people who use Debian do so because they want to be able to fiddle about with it, but it'd not be a Universal Operating System if it didn't cater for those who just want to get going and just USE it. I had been using openSUSE for quite a few years, but the v 12 series don't support some of my major computational chemistry software. I had successfully installed Debian on a separate HD from my openSUSE installation and the first problem involves the grub menu.list (which no longer exists in grub-pc which is used by Debian). The distributions currently in the splash screen are: openSUSE (this is 12.2 resulting from an upgrade of 12.1) Advance options for openSUSE openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Advance options for openSUSE 12.1 (86_64) Debian/GNU/Linux (6.0.5) Advanced options for Debian/GNU/Linux (6.0.5) Debian/GNU/Linux (6.0.4) Advanced options for Debian/GNU/Linux (6.0.4) Now for some reason, even though, I used the Debian 6.0.6 iso DVD for the reinstallation of 6.0.5, because of a very stupid attempt on my part to change the video drivers to nVidia which resulted in a degradation of the monitor resolution and the introduction of a really ugly font). Trial and error showed me that I want to boot into the 6.0.4 version (where that version number came from I don't have the faintest clue) to get the new installation which has the resolution and font that I want. Of course the default is the first entry in the menu list. So, the first question is (finally) how do I change the default order of booting to the one that I want? Grub2 uses a more complicated configuration than Grub1 did. So much so, that it's no longer recommended to modify that directly yourself any more. Instead, the file (grub.cfg) is generated by invoking update-grub which will read: /etc/default/grub (for general configuration parameters), /etc/grub.d/* (for generating the various menu entries) and the output of the os-prober command (for discovering other operating systems on your system). I'm also not sure why you have entries for Debian 6.0.5 and Debian 6.0.4 in your menu, if you have only one Debian install, but it might be os-prober being over-eager in its detection. If you can live with a little clutter, the extra entry does you no harm. Changing the ORDER of booting in Grub2 is difficult, but can be done if you need it. As an alternative, though, I can offer the ability to change which menu entry is the default? For that, look in /etc/default/grub. Change the GRUB_DEFAULT entry to the number of the entry you want to boot by default (bearing in mind that counting starts from zero). Next problem. After I selected the primary master HD for the new installation, the installer only found the one HD and ignored the others on the system. The default fstab is: [cut] Now, if I hadn't been gun shy before about modifying the OS before, I certainly am now. My second question is that I would like comments about how I think (dangerous that) I should edit fstab: The entries that are already there I would leave alone. I did check and there are entries in /dev for the other partitions on the HD's /dev/sdb1 /sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/sdc1 /sdc1 ext4 defaults 0 2 /dev/sdc2 /sdc2 ext4 defaults 0 2 /dev/sdd1 /sdd1 reiserfs defaults 0 2 /dev/sdd2 /sdd2 reiserfs defaults 0 2 /dev/sdd5 /sdd5 reiserfs defaults 0 2 /dev/sde1 /sde1 ext4 defaults 0 2 /dev/sde2 /sde2 ext4 defaults 0 2 I'm particularly not sure about the last two entries on each of the new lines. They all look fine to me, assuming that you're happy with the naming of those mount points. You might want to create, say /opensuse-root, /opensuse-usr or whatever to make it easier to find things. You might also want to consider defaults,noauto or defaults,ro as a safety measure, if these have other operating systems installed on them. But it does depend on what you plan to do with them. With apologies for my long windiness, I will appreciate the help that I'm sure that I'll be receiving. Thanks in advance. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recurring email messages in IceDove and I'm feeling deja vu
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: I am using Icedove, AKA Thunderbird, with an IMAP server. After deleting (or marking for deletion), the messages will reappear in the Inbox, or if in the Inbox and marked, they will become unmarked. This happens whether I do it manually or a filter rules moves the message to a folder. (The latter occurrence causes one or more copies to be put into the intended folder, and the original reappears in the Inbox, resulting in at least two copies of the message.) Does the same happen with a different MUA (say, evolution or mutt)? If so, it's an issue with your IMAP server (you didn't say if that's self-hosted or provided by someone else). For example, the indexes might be read-only or perhaps you have two clients fighting over the idea of which messages are read etc. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:41:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from a CD. Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet connection. I don't believe they were chided, simply reminded that the best way to get packages is usually direct from the repositories. As you note, there are use-cases for the CDs, which is why they exist. For example, I have installed debian on an air-gapped system (that is, a server which is not and will never be connected to the internet). My only option in that case was to download DVDs and use them. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dymo 450 ejects label on login
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 05:47:07PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: The issue is as above: new machine running xfce4 desktop, with two printers attached. One of them is an Epson Workforce 645, the other is a Dymo 450 label printer. The Epson is, of course, the default printer on the system. Is the Dymo attached as a standard printer (that is, you have an entry in CUPS and you can print to it from any normal application) or (being a label printer), does it just show up as a character device that prints out any data sent to that device? If the former, check the CUPS logs to see if there's a stuck job, perhaps. If the latter, something is presumably sending a form-feed to the device. Does this happen if you create a new user and log-in to their desktop? Does it happen if you log in at a VT and run startx? When I log in to the desktop, the Dymo ejects one blank label. Any thoughts? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1bzk3nwb5w@new-snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:59:37AM -0400, Doug wrote: On 10/16/2012 02:07 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote: Paul E Condon writes: Ideas? Run cronyc and post the results of the tracking and sources commands. -- John Hasler I've now switched to chrony. The offset between 'atomic clock' and Gnome clock display remains greater than 15sec. Its hard to be more precise because I can't get the clock and the computer in my field of vision simultaneously. But, no way do they agree to anything like under a second. I do have an always on connection to the internet, and I did take care to remove the 'offline's from the chrony.conf. root@big:/var/log/chrony# chronyc tracking Reference ID: 204.235.61.9 (name1.glorb.com) Stratum : 3 Ref time (UTC) : Tue Oct 16 05:47:52 2012 System time : 0.00121 seconds fast of NTP time Frequency : 190.723 ppm fast Residual freq : -6.591 ppm Skew: 2.035 ppm Root delay : 0.099491 seconds Root dispersion : 0.186323 seconds root@big:/var/log/chrony# chronyc sources 210 Number of sources = 4 MS Name/IP address Stratum Poll LastRx Last sample ^* name1.glorb.com 28191 +1029us[ +950us] +/- 90ms ^+ d7.hotfile.com28184+13ms[ +13ms] +/- 62ms ^? lttleman.deekayen.net 0 1010y +0ns[ +0ns] +/-0ns ^+ vpn.cumquat.nl28177+17ms[ +17ms] +/- 103ms I notice here, that you're not actually reading the time from your atomic clock. A local clock uses a pseudo IP address of 127.127.x.y (where x is a driver reference number and y is a clock instance number). However, that shouldn't be a problem as, according to chrony you are syncronised to within a tiny fraction of a second to the correct time. Instead, I would suggest that it is your wall clock that is running slow. Is there any sort of indicator on it which would tell you if the radio signal is weak? 18 seconds sounds suspiciously like a GPS-time offset, but I think that's a red-herring. root@big:/var/log/chrony# A receiver for WWVB at 60KHz that would decode the signals would be as accurate as anyone could want. That's the signal that your atomic clock receives, so the clock *should* be accurate. You might only be able to receive the signal in the nighttime hours, like the clock. Typically, the clock will sync up at about 2AM local time, and a WWVB receiver would basically do the same thing, with an accurate crystal oscillator as an internal reference to keep time when no signal is being received. Such a receiver would probably cost over $1000, at a guess, but that's the difference between a scientific reference and a $20 atomic clock! Sorry, did you just suggest that the solution for the OP's problem with a radio controlled clock is... a radio controlled clock? --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/507d05d9.2000...@optonline.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Number of Debian packages available.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:46:01PM +0200, Titanus Eramius wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:30:41 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian (Squeeze?) 1. in main 2. in main, contrib and non-free I have an idea of roughly 20,000 in my head, but cannot remember why I think it and it may be vastly out. Nor into which of my two categories the figure falls, if by any miracle it is correct. According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and aptitude search '~smain|~scontrib|~snon-free' should give you the answers you seek, however, I seem to get 0 for the first and only 626 for the second, so my search-fu is failing me today. Maybe from Synaptic? It lists a total of packages it can fetch in the bottom left corner. I have all three archives active + backports, testing and unstable and Synaptic reports 43132 packages is available. But the question might be, what's a package, and what's a libary? Just my thoughts though. Everything's a package, though it'd make sense to remove virtual packages from the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Number of Debian packages available.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:01:59AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and aptitude search '~smain|~scontrib|~snon-free' should give you the answers you seek, however, I seem to get 0 for the first and only 626 for the second, so my search-fu is failing me today. Because ~s (?section()) doesn't correspond to main/contrib/non-free. What does, then? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Header file for QQ Protocol
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:29:46PM +, Kousik Maiti wrote: Dear List, I need some information about QQ protocol. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent_QQ. I want a header file like linux/tcp.h or linux/ip.h . Thanks in advanced. Pidgin supports QQ, so you might want to look at the source for that. Depending on what you're after, you might find linking against libpurple suitable for you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: raid
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote: hi all, my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7* how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now. No, it won't. As far as I know, mdadm will only work with Linux's software RAID implementation. how to handle this? thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a machine loaded with sid on a third hd. If you don't need the RAID array, just treat the disks as blank. That is, put a new partition table on them and mkfs them. Windows 7's RAID won't have put anything permanent on the disks. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: raid
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:05:17PM +0200, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi Darac, for raid software you can use mdadm. Do you want install system on raid or do you want use raid for data? before creting raid array, write 0 on each sector with dd (man dd). There are different paper on the web for this. Hi Alessandro, I think you've misread this thread. It's not I who wants to install anything on RAID. In fact, no-one on this thread mentioned anything of the sort. The point is how to get rid of a pre-existing RAID array. P.S. Please don't top post, and please don't send HTML. See you. Il giorno 17/ott/2012 17:27, Darac Marjal [1]mailingl...@darac.org.uk ha scritto: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote: hi all, my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7* how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now. No, it won't. As far as I know, mdadm will only work with Linux's software RAID implementation. how to handle this? thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a machine loaded with sid on a third hd. If you don't need the RAID array, just treat the disks as blank. That is, put a new partition table on them and mkfs them. Windows 7's RAID won't have put anything permanent on the disks. References Visible links 1. mailto:mailingl...@darac.org.uk signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Wheezy Architecture
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 09:46:19AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Debian 6.0.5 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5 I have just migrated to Debian and would like to implement Multiarch. According to the Debian Wiki it is present in dkpg since 1.16.2. However, the version in my installation is 1.15.8.3. That is correct. You are using Debian Stable 6.0.5 (aka Squeeze). Debian 7.0 (aka Wheezy) is still in testing, but IS due to migrate to stable in a few months. You can either update to Wheezy now or wait until it becomes stable, depending on your preferences. When I try to update the Synaptic Package Manager I get some error messages that don't mean anything to me at this stage in my understanding (?). Here are the error messages: Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension Not a problem. I believe there's some software (it might be synaptic, I'm not sure) which makes back-ups of your apt-sources. You can safely ignore this message. GPG error: http://cran.case.edu squeeze-cran/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480GPG You should be wary of downloading packages from this repository as you have no guarantee that they are the files released by its maintainers (That is, you might download them correctly, but if a suspicious package was uploaded to the server, you can't tell). error: http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 Failed to fetch http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) Failed to fetch http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) These look like an error in your apt-sources. According to whois, multimedia.org is hosted by a domain-parking name server. Probably you meant deb-multimedia.org? But there isn't[1] a US mirror for them, so I'm not sure. Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. The /etc/apt/sources.lst is: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb-src http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian squeeze-cran/ deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main deb http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze main non-free sources.list (END) What I really need is a pointer towards a really basic discussion of Synaptic an apt. While this[1] is marked as obsolete, it's still a good starting place. [1] http://deb-multimedia.org/debian-m [2] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 09:10:56PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:29 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Tom Rausner wrote: Hi Folks. I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem. It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk) to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors. I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing and get a Debian install to work on it ? Hi Tom, I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but... As of today, we now have official debian-installer test CDs that should work for installing on UEFI systems. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/10/msg7.html for more details about the release. Can't UEFI be disabled on most mobos? Yes, but why would you want to? On plenty of SATA-carrying motherboards, the controller can be switched from native AHCI to an IDE emulation. Similarly, other features of other motherboards can be switched off as desired. But if you have the newer, advanced features it's nice to have an operating system that exploits them. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How APT signs packages
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:28:36PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: Hi, Where can I find an uptodate description of exactly how PGP is used by APT in packaging? I can't find the source any more but I got the impression that the individual packages were not signed but merely checksummed and that the list of checksums was the only thing that was actually signed. What is the real situation? That is true. As described here[1], the package checksums are stores in the Packages file, the checksums for the Packages file are stored in the Release file and the release file is GPG signed. So you have a chain of fidelity from Releases to the package and a chain of trust from yourself to the Releases. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bso.2.02.1210191228260.11...@yeeloong.dhcp.inet.fi signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lm-sensors
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:14:29PM +0200, lee wrote: [ 12.509295] f71882fg: Found f71889fg chip at 0x600, revision 21 [ 12.509364] ACPI: resource f71882fg [io 0x0600-0x0607] conflicts with ACPI region HMOR [io 0x605-0x606] [ 12.509372] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver Is there an ACPI driver available for this chip, and if so, which one would that be? Sensors only says: You can look at this page: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices. You want to find a line for your sensor with ACPI in the bus type (fifth) column. Alternatively, read this FAQ on the subject: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3#Mysensorshavestoppedworkinginkernel2.6.31 (This is a summary of my searching the web for ACPI: resource f71882fg) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: High PCI Adapter Temperature
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 07:06:04AM -0700, Zhong Jiang wrote: Hi, I'm running Debian Squeeze on my Hp Pavilion dv6 dual boot laptop, and am experiencing problems with the temperature readings produced by lm-sensors: root@debian:/home/zhong# sensors -f k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +164.3�F (high = +158.0�F, crit = +239.9�F) Here's the detection result: [cut] What could be causing such high temperatures? Excessive load on the CPU, insufficient cooling (for example, a fan not running or not running quickly enough or dust in cooling fins). Basically, a CPU uses energy to perform calculations. Modern CPUs such as the AMD k10 series are somewhat proportional in the amount of work they do to how much energy they use. That energy is not used 100% efficiently and some of it gets turned to heat. In order to avoid a build up of heat (which would quite quickly melt a CPU), fans move air over the surface of the chip, transporting the heat to a cooler point. So, in other words, the high temperature is caused by a build up in waste energy at the CPU - either due to too much being produced or due to it not being moved away quickly enough. You will notice that you are above the warning level for your sensor (but not above the critical level), so you should either reduce the amount of work the CPU is doing, if possible, or increase the cooling to it. (Alternatively, if you're actually suggesting that the reading is wrong (you didn't say that, but it's a common complaint), make sure your /etc/sensors3.conf is configured correctly) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lm-sensors
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:13:08AM +0200, lee wrote: Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:14:29PM +0200, lee wrote: [cut] (This is a summary of my searching the web for ACPI: resource f71882fg) Yeah I've found the same results, and they don't tell me if it's possible to get some more output or not. I've never seen lmsensors really working with any board I've had. All the information I could find for lmsensors with my particular board was old. The conclusion can only be that lmsensors is obsolete because it persistently doesn't work and that I'll be better off getting a digital thermometer and attaching its sensor to an appropriate place. But who knows, perhaps it does work and I only need to find out how to get it to work. It might be, for those motherboards that don't report any information, that they simply don't have the sensors. Depending on who the board is targeted at, adding thermal sensors may be seen by the manufacturer as a needless expense. Most CPUs come with a sensor now, as do most hard drives and that's probably seen as sufficient. Certainly, most laptops I've owned have shown nothing of interest in lmsensors. And with Windows (still, by far, the main target for motherboards) not reporting temperatures natively, why would they bother? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No sound on Wheezy
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:45:35AM +, Artifex Maximus wrote:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mi, 24 oct 12, 10:22:57, Artifex Maximus wrote:
# aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=Intel
HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
...
# speaker-test -c 2 -D sysdefault
speaker-test 1.0.25
Playback device is sysdefault
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
It seems like pulseaudio is interfering. Try stopping it first.
Thanks. I've tried but still no sound even I got no resource busy
error this time. Just to be sure I reboot into Windows and there was
sound so my audio card and the connection to the loudspeaker is
good.
Having recently run into this myself, try the following:
# speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,0
# speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:1,0
# speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:2,0
(You have three devices, but perhaps not all of them are (say) capable
of playing PCM sound. In my case, I had an analog and a digital
output and the wrong one was device 0).
If you get one of those to work, you can tell ALSA to use that device as
default by adding the following to /etc/asound.conf (assuming device 1
was the one that worked)
#8
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl !default {
type hw
card 1
}
#8
This should also (I think) route pulseaudio to the correct device, too.
Bye,
a
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Re: No sound on Wheezy
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 01:53:05PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:45:35AM +, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 24 oct 12, 10:22:57, Artifex Maximus wrote: # aplay -L default Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server sysdefault:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog Default Audio Device ... # speaker-test -c 2 -D sysdefault speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is sysdefault Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy It seems like pulseaudio is interfering. Try stopping it first. Thanks. I've tried but still no sound even I got no resource busy error this time. Just to be sure I reboot into Windows and there was sound so my audio card and the connection to the loudspeaker is good. Having recently run into this myself, try the following: # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,0 # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:1,0 # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:2,0 (You have three devices, but perhaps not all of them are (say) capable of playing PCM sound. In my case, I had an analog and a digital output and the wrong one was device 0). Thank you. Where those hw numbers come from? I tried the following under Gnome: The parameters to hw:x,y are X = Card number and Y = Device on that card. I think I misread your output of aplay -l earlier. Looking at the one at the end of this email, I see you actually have hw:0,0 (the ALC887-VD Analog), hw:0,1 (the ALC887-VD Digital) and hw:1,3 (the HDMI 0). Hopefully you can see how I've worked out those device names from the output? As for the number to -c, I chose 2 because almost all devices support stereo. You may try a higher number if you want to test more speakers (e.g. rear speakers) [failures cut] Just wondering what change does in second number: # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,1 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:0,1 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 64 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 8192 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 2,730392 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 2,986731 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Still no sound. So no success. OK, but as far as ALSA's concerned, it's not playing out of your digital device. If you have an optical cable, it'll be using that. If you're wanting to use the analog output (i.e. normal, metal cables), then we still have an issue. I notice that pulseaudio gave a warning when you tried to stop it; pulseaudio -k should kill any user-initiated daemons. To be sure, try running sudo lsof|egrep 'snd|dsp|NAME' to see if anything else is using your sound device. # aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 I think this means that alsa detect my audio device. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvgpnseiy4vdotd_urdw4s2ccpby4_tju9ls92uz176...@mail.gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 02:13:37AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: i have just created an iso of some of my music collection so that i can play them off the DVD, delete them off the hard drive and free up more space for new music, that’s the plan anyhow. The command i used was . genisoimage -o ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\ Version\ 2/ and it created irishceltic.iso which is 18.4 gbs big. I now want to burn this to DVD's but brassero wont do multiple DVD from one source, and so far, i havne't been able to do it from k3b. How do I do it in either brassero or k3b please? Or can it be done from the command line please? I'm not entirely sure you want to be splitting the ISO. I think what you rather need is to make several ISOs which are small enough to fit on your DVD. The easiest way to do this is just to use k3b (for example) to make the ISO. You should be able to drag files from your music collection one-by-one into the project, watching the size of the resulting ISO increase (It's been a while since I used k3b, but there's often a gauge that shows you how close you are to filling a disc). When you have a full disc, burn that, then start a new project starting from the next file in the directory. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Supermicro SAS controller
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 02:54:24PM +, Ramon Hofer wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2012 09:35:36 -0400, Allan Wind wrote: [cut] So I suppose I have to create a USB stick that boots DOS and then run one of the command. But which one. Maybe smc.bat but what is dos4gw.exe for? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS/4G signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: unix tool as precise counter/timer for periodic print/exec
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 10:20:11AM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a unix tool that does nothing else than increment and print an integer with a fixed frequency. As a bonus it should be able to execute a command with a fixed frequency. The special requirement: it should precise in the interval. I'm not entirely sure if such a tool exists, but one thing you will need to bear in mind is that you will need to make sure you're running a real-time kernel (apt-cache search linux-image-rt). This will allow you to run your look with real-time priority. If you don't have real-time priority, then you basically have no way of ensuring that you will be able to run print_counter at the specified time - you could always get delayed because the kernel is writing to disk or some other process is doing work. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid: aptitude ERROR
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 12:23:24PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 02 mai 12, 08:52:26, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hi, Setting up fontconfig-config (2.9.0-2) ... rmdir: failed to remove `/var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/': Directory not empty dpkg: error processing fontconfig-config (--configure): This is bug #670982, for reference. What can I do to solve these problems? Delete or move (not copy) that directory somewhere else and then retry. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Swap space not used
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Stephen, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: It is my understanding that, assuming suspend/resume is supported, your swap partition should be AT LEAST as large as TWICE the amount of RAM. Suspend/resume will consume a RAM's worth right out of the starting gate. The rest is then available for regular swap file activity. This is - more or less - wrong. Suspend/Resume will consume at most swap space corresponding to the used RAM (i. e. with compression and dropping of buffers/caches, it can be far less). However, this swap space is not used during runtime but only on suspend, so if there is If the swap space is available during normal usage, then it's entirely possible to have no space to suspend to. This is why windows uses a separate hibernation file (though Windows' memory management is rather poor to start with). It'd be perfectly reasonable practice to have a separate swap file/partition for hibernating to and swapon that before hibernating. no need to suspend under heavy load (used swap usually indicates heavy load on a desktop and I fail to imagine a reason why you’d like to suspend a server…), swap the size of RAM is definitely enough. Best regards, Claudius signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: It is not worthwhile reporting a bug on Debian wheezy/sid..
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 04:48:11PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 02:15:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: Your version (1.2.10-2.1) of gorm.app appears to be out of date. The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive: testing: 1.2.10-2.1+b1 unstable: 1.2.10-2.1+b1 This version is for kfreebsd only. Are you using it? This is an interesting situation. Indeed, the +b1 version is only for the two KFreeBSD architectures. If the OP is not using KFreeBSD, then this is a reportbug bug (since there isn't a newer release available for the user's architecture.) There doesn't seem to be anything similar reported, yet. No, this isn't a reportbug bug. This is reportbug simply saying You're running stable. The bug you're about to report may already have been reported and fixed in testing or unstable. It's up to the user to check that and, if that's not the case, then they're most welcome to press Y and report the bug. In this case, the +b1 versions are likely to be binary-only uploads (that is, they were rebuilt against a newer library for the kFreeBSD architectures with no need to change the source). It's highly unlikely that this will have fixed a bug present when running on a Linux kernel. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian 6.0.4 grub installation failed.
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:15:43AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: ok i used the parted command by mklabel gpt i created the partition but i want it to be linux raid. please help me to convert it to raid since i can not find option in parted to make it a fd linux raid type nor i can find anything related to this topic on google. and Really? I searched for parted raid (without quotes) and the first result I got was section 7 of the parted manual. That seems quite self-explanatory. fdisk is not supporting the GPT . so i am stuck kindly help! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:19:10AM +0200, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote: Hello, Before anybody starts arguing that I don't have 64-bit, this is uname -r and uname -m: [1]root@n03:~# uname -r 2.6.32-3-amd64 [2]root@n03:~# uname -m x86_64 [cut] Hope somebody can help me fix this, I cannot think of anything that could cause this This may be an issue with your kernel. Can you post the output of the following here? $ grep CONFIG_HIGHMEM /boot/config-$(uname -r) If you get # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set in the list, then you'll need to look at re-building your kernel to support RAM 64Gb. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: something about the dnet-common
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 03:43:49PM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2012 20:35:23 +0800 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: My curiosity is that why during the full-upgrade, it's installed the dnet-common. Is it something important? I too was wondering about that just now, when a DECNet configuration dialog popped out on my screen, during an aptitude upgrade. AFAIK, DECNet is some old network protocol which is mostly unused nowadays. Why would my system decide to install support for it all of a sudden? aptitude why dnet-common should be able to tell you why dnet-common was installed. Watch out for the dnet-common package though. DECnet requires that the MAC addresses of all ethernet adaptors running the procotcol be set appropriately (see setether(8)). If you've installed dnet-common, you may find that this has been done for you already. ifconfig et al should be able to put it back. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Spam filter -please !
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:45:25AM +0200, Tom Rausner wrote: Hi Administrators of this list Actually, you've reached the users of the list. As mentioned at http://lists.debian.org, the maintainers are contactable at listarchi...@debian.org. Don't you think this list needs a spam filter upgrade ? One message gets through and you think the spam filter's not doing it's job? Have you considered how many spams WERE blocked? (For the record, I don't know what the spam filter statistics are like, but I suspect that for each false-negative, there are many more true-positives). Look what the pig draged in (I had to send it as HTML 'cause the spam was HTML); No, you didn't have to. You could have: * Converted it to plain text * Redacted much of it, to remove those SEO-helping links (I have done these two things). * Referenced it by Message-ID * Or simply ignored it. Next time, please follow the instructions at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#maintenance [1]Si vous ne visualisez pas ce message, cliquez-ici [2]EASYPREDICT [3]DECOUVREZ VOTRE VOYANCE GRATUITE...! [4]CLIQUEZ -VITE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:09:24PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 17 May 2012 22:52:36 Kelly Clowers wrote: I have no data for this, but I would be willing to bet that singular they is in more widespread use in American English than any of the invented words. Probably also more common than it for unknown-but-present gender. Possibly! Don't get me onto the subject of the mauling to which your continent sometimes subjects the English language. ;-) I speak and know English English. (Sorry - there is no method of saying that, that does not come across as clumsy - English as it is spoken in England.) It is generally agreed that Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland speak the same English as England (being all part of the same country). So the term used is British English (en_GB). The Queen's English is possibly acceptable in casual speech, but you might get complaints from the Commonwealth countries. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Verifying integrity of .deb file
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:28:35PM +, Uttam wrote: Hello, I am currently generating a custom deb file and distributing it over http. What are the options to verify the integrity of .deb files on the machine where I have installed the .deb? One way to do that would be to set up a repository for the file. That way, the Packages file will list hashsums for the .deb and apt-get (and friends) can verify the file as you download it. This also has the advantage that your end users can get updates as easily as the rest of their OS. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Playing Video
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:41:47PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - This might not be the correct address for this problem. If it is not, please direct me appropriately. I am trying to play a video. The following code is in Index1.html: video width=320 height=240 controls=controls src= file:///home/ethan/Gingy/Converted_Files/DSCF0142.movfile:///home/ethan/Gingy/Converted_Files/DSCF0142.mov type=video/mov According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video, no major browser supports video/mov in a video / element. I might be misreading, but you might have better luck converting it into webm, H.264 or Theora format. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:43:23AM -0500, Chris wrote: On 6/2/2012 8:39 AM, John Hasler wrote: -aft writes: So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? Yes. At least 99% of the mail that hits the servers is rejected as spam. At least 99% ?!?! Umm, my math sux but... Clearly it does. At least 99% means Greater than or equal to 99%. In other words 99% and 100%, of course, but 99.1%, 99.2%... 99.15%, 99.241234% and so on. Nothing wrong with the term At least 99%. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to avoid Setting up ca-certificates-java
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 03:59:18PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, each time I install or remove any Package,� the following setting is executed, how to avoid it � Setting up ca-certificates-java (20100412) ... creating /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts... � removed untrusted certificate mozilla/ABAecom_=sub.__Am._Bankers_Assn.=_Root_CA.crt . I would imagine that the set up is failing in some manner, so dpkg re-attempts it every time it's called. Have a look at the LAST few lines logged for any errors. thanks for help signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to make monitor auto standby in full screen mode
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 05:53:14PM -0400, Long Wind wrote: I start xawtv and press f to enter full screen mode the monitor can't enter standby mode after time out This is probably intentional. Most full-screen programs assume that you're going to WANT auto-standby disabled (in this instance, you want to watch TV; how is xawtv to know you're still watching?). As a result, they will temporarily disable screen-blanking. Have a look at the xawtv manpage/config files and see if there is an option for enabling this - if so, DON'T enable it :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: netinst on old dell hardware
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 07:34:28PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 03:03:28PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: * note: I don't know that X is involved in painting the screen graphics on boot up from the Debian install CDs. When I think about it, X seems like an awfully heavy weight way to paint a picture. Suffice to say I don't want and have never selected graphical install. Have you heard of the framebuffer? No X involved. The Framebuffer and X are not mutually exclusive. The framebuffer is, basically, a non-accelerated graphics device. Most PCs these days have two options for displaying graphics: calculate the entire image on the CPU/main RAM and then send a series of pixels to the framebuffer - the framebuffer will then hold these pixels until the next monitor sync comes along. Alternatively, you can send a series of commands to a graphics processor and have that calculate the final image. This, of course, frees up the CPU, hence the acceleration. X, on the other hand, is a networked display server. It is mostly an abstraction layer. Application programmers can develop their programs without having to worry about whether the target device is a framebuffer, a GPU or even a different computer somewhere else on the network. It is perfectly possible to run X on a framebuffer - for computers that only have a framebuffer this is the ONLY way to run an X server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120620091923.ga10...@darac.org.uk
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:08:39PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! My Wheezy was installed on a very early stage any I would like to compare packages against a fresh installation to see what is different or changed. Probably nothing but would like to verify. Therefore I would like to make a dependency tree (graph) on installed packages under Wheezy for both (my older and a fresh) installation. On the two dependency trees I am able to find differences between them because packages by packages compare is not enough I think. I have made some google and found that debtree and apt-cache might do that. But do not. Or not exactly what I would like. debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. It looks like apt-cache --installed depends . should do what you want. If it's doing what you want, but for all packages, then that seems like a bug to me (the --installed parameter says Limit the output of depends and rdepends to packages which are currently installed). Note that --installed only works with 'depends' and 'rdepends'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120620124915.gb10...@darac.org.uk
Re: round-robin mx and nginx proxy
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:54:28PM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: I need general help on a multi-server setup with 2 MTAs (each also a nginx reverse-proxy) 2 mailbox servers (round-robin) when i check nginx.log on both MTA, only the second MTA got https connection (zimbra support also confirmed this) and it seems that this might caused by DNS setup or related network configuration how do I pinpoint as to where the root cause might be? I think I would first start by checking the output of repeated calls to dig +short mx yourdomain.example.org. This should vary, with your servers swapping positions each time. If you only get the same output each time, then it's down to the sending MTA to pick an appropriate MX from the list. I assume both your MXs have the same priority; in that case the sending SMTP should pick one at random and, if that fails, try the other. Note here, that if you're using round-robin AND same-priority MXs, both are picking the order at random. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120621103035.ga15...@darac.org.uk
Re: OP delared SANE (LOL) - was [Re: Intermittent installation related problems]
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 07:37:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Brian wrote: On Mon 18 Jun 2012 at 19:50:21 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Instead of having Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora pesent, I wish multiple versions of Debian. But in any case the Debian installer seems to ignore *FACT* that there is already a partition designated as swap. You see this designated partition on the overview screen of currently configured partitions and mount points? Please post the line which gives the description of the swap partition. Did another install sequence yesterday. This time my attempt to use existing partition was successful. But ;) The new install will not accept root password. User password is fine. That may be intended. I don't think Debian (out of the box) allows root to log in at all. Instead, you're expected to log in as an unprivileged user and then 'upgrade' to root (via sudo - which takes THAT USER'S password). If you gave root a password during install, then you should be able to log in at a VT with root, but not via SSH/*DM etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120621125549.ga18...@darac.org.uk
