RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations (ES)

2008-05-29 Thread Craig Edmonds
I just installed Alligate in front of my decluded mail server and it
certainly cuts down alot of the traffic to the mail server. Previously the
cpu on the declude mail server was 60-90% all day, now it rarely goes over
10%.

No more backscatter! No more dictionary attacks.

Its pretty straightforward to configure and only took me about an hour or
so.

A small tip though in order to save all the pain of dns changes if you have
many domains, to redirect all your smtp traffic to the Alligate server, you
can configure your router to send all port 25 traffic to the Alligate server
instead of the mail server.

 

Declude is an excellent product, but add Alligate to it and you you are onto
a winner.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: 28 May 2008 23:32
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations

 

Scott,

Alligate is a good gateway to use when you have something like Declude
behind it.

The only reason that I can think of that your Barracuda box is seeing that
many messages would be because you might not be validating addresses.  Like
Andrew said, you can cut your connection traffic by 95% with ease, but a
large number of those connections are to bad addresses (backscatter and
'dictionary' attacks).  You must validate addresses at your gateway.

You can run Alligate on a single core box with 1 GB of memory and a single
hard drive.  Just make sure to dedicate the box to Alligate in order to
avoid issues when resources are that sparse.

Matt



Scott Fosseen wrote: 

I believe I have seen some replies to this already, but I though I would put

this out again.   I am hosting about 30 domains worth of email and filtering

for an additional 10 domains.  My current configuration is all mail is 
pre-filtered through a Barracuda 400 box, then forwarded to a Smartermail 
4.x server running Declude with Sniffer, Zero Hour, invURIBL.  The 
Smartermail/Declude box is a Dual Quad Core HP server with 2 Gig of RAM.  I 
am currently receiving about 600k email messages a day on the Barracuda box,

and it is seeing performance issues.  Before I purchase a 2nd Barracuda box 
I though I would check to see if anyone has a better solution.  Declude 
still catches 40-60% SPAM after the Barracuda box.
 
Thanks
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations

2008-05-29 Thread Nick Hayer

Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

I use Alligate from Solid Oak Software, and I like it a lot.
  

as do I.

The really slick part is how it reduces bandwidth - it *very* accurately 
distinguishes spam etal before the DATA command thereby preventing the 
unwanted emails from ever being received..


Shameless plug -  I have a small utility that will allow Declude (for 
Imail) to run on an Alligate box without Imail being present. If anyone 
is interested email me off list and I will send you a copy.


-Nick

On my primary gateway, I received just shy of 500,000 connections in the
last 24 hours, and my Declude only had to see 4% of that traffic. Yes,
4%.

I'm spending less time doing clever things in Declude, because Alligate
is pre-filtering so well for me.


Andrew.
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott Fosseen
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:29 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations


I believe I have seen some replies to this already, but I though I would
put 
this out again.   I am hosting about 30 domains worth of email and
filtering 
for an additional 10 domains.  My current configuration is all mail is 
pre-filtered through a Barracuda 400 box, then forwarded to a
Smartermail 
4.x server running Declude with Sniffer, Zero Hour, invURIBL.  The 
Smartermail/Declude box is a Dual Quad Core HP server with 2 Gig of RAM.
I 
am currently receiving about 600k email messages a day on the Barracuda
box, 
and it is seeing performance issues.  Before I purchase a 2nd Barracuda
box 
I though I would check to see if anyone has a better solution.  Declude 
still catches 40-60% SPAM after the Barracuda box.


Thanks
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations

2008-05-29 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Nick Hayer said:
 I have a small utility that will allow Declude (for 
 Imail) to run on an Alligate box without Imail being present.


... and it works. I'm using Nick's utility so that my antispam gateway
is Alligate + Nick's utility instead of IMail. Like many people, I
bought into Declude as my antispam product, and IMail just happened to
be the platform it ran on.

I'm much happier paying for Alligate than IMail. Ipswitch never made me
happy. Never.


Andrew.
 

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Hayer
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:15 AM
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Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
 I use Alligate from Solid Oak Software, and I like it a lot.
   
as do I.

The really slick part is how it reduces bandwidth - it *very* accurately

distinguishes spam et al before the DATA command thereby preventing the 
unwanted emails from ever being received..

Shameless plug -  I have a small utility that will allow Declude (for 
Imail) to run on an Alligate box without Imail being present. If anyone 
is interested email me off list and I will send you a copy.

-Nick

 On my primary gateway, I received just shy of 500,000 connections in
the
 last 24 hours, and my Declude only had to see 4% of that traffic. Yes,
 4%.

 I'm spending less time doing clever things in Declude, because
Alligate
 is pre-filtering so well for me.


 Andrew.
  

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Scott Fosseen
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:29 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations


 I believe I have seen some replies to this already, but I though I
would
 put 
 this out again.   I am hosting about 30 domains worth of email and
 filtering 
 for an additional 10 domains.  My current configuration is all mail is

 pre-filtered through a Barracuda 400 box, then forwarded to a
 Smartermail 
 4.x server running Declude with Sniffer, Zero Hour, invURIBL.  The 
 Smartermail/Declude box is a Dual Quad Core HP server with 2 Gig of
RAM.
 I 
 am currently receiving about 600k email messages a day on the
Barracuda
 box, 
 and it is seeing performance issues.  Before I purchase a 2nd
Barracuda
 box 
 I though I would check to see if anyone has a better solution.
Declude 
 still catches 40-60% SPAM after the Barracuda box.

 Thanks
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