[Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not working on internal customers

2004-06-22 Thread Jeffrey M Donley
I have had a continuing problem with Hijack. I have several business
customers with 25 plus work stations, these customers are getting caught in
hijack on outgoing mails. I have added ALLOWIP entries for all the customers
with no success. It seems as though declude reads hijack cfg for a certain
number of ALLOWIP entries then gives up on the last few entries. I am using
1.75 with IMail 7.15. Any suggestions?

-jeff

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not working on internal customers

2004-06-22 Thread Nick Hayer
On 22 Jun 2004 at 7:07, Jeffrey M Donley wrote:

Hi Jeff,

So in your hijack.cfg file you have ALLOWIP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and in 
the HOLDx dir hijack is retaining emails from the allowip addresses?

If that is the case I suggest stopping and restarting declude console 
to reset hijack; if that doesn't help review your hijack logs and 
email Scott...

-Nick Hayer

 I have had a continuing problem with Hijack. I have several business
 customers with 25 plus work stations, these customers are getting
 caught in hijack on outgoing mails. I have added ALLOWIP entries for
 all the customers with no success. It seems as though declude reads
 hijack cfg for a certain number of ALLOWIP entries then gives up on
 the last few entries. I am using 1.75 with IMail 7.15. Any
 suggestions?
 
 -jeff
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not working on internal customers

2004-06-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have had a continuing problem with Hijack. I have several business
customers with 25 plus work stations, these customers are getting caught in
hijack on outgoing mails. I have added ALLOWIP entries for all the customers
with no success. It seems as though declude reads hijack cfg for a certain
number of ALLOWIP entries then gives up on the last few entries. I am using
1.75 with IMail 7.15. Any suggestions?
v1.75 only allows you to have a maximum of 20 ALLOWIP lines -- if you 
upgrade to the latest beta, it allows you to have up to 100.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread John Tolmachoff
Wait, the DAISYCHAIN option has a big effect on any one hosting lots of
users using Web Mail.

Anyone thinking about this needs to consider the following:

If you have 1000 users using web mail, it is very likely that just normal
usage of those users will trigger the hold values.

If you are going to do this, you will have to adjust the values upwards
significantly so as not to trap normal usage.

Correct, or am I off my rocker?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Brian Cunningham
I've made the changes, but did not make the registry change.

I'll let you guys know what happens.

In regards to the web messaging possible trap, Do I really need to up
the limits for hijack? 

It's always been my understanding that web messaging shouldn't send out
as much email as frequently than an email client (Outlook, etc.)

Thoughts?

Thanks.

b

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Wait, the DAISYCHAIN option has a big effect on any one hosting lots of
users using Web Mail.

Anyone thinking about this needs to consider the following:

If you have 1000 users using web mail, it is very likely that just
normal usage of those users will trigger the hold values.

If you are going to do this, you will have to adjust the values upwards
significantly so as not to trap normal usage.

Correct, or am I off my rocker?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread John Tolmachoff
 In regards to the web messaging possible trap, Do I really need to up
 the limits for hijack?
 
 It's always been my understanding that web messaging shouldn't send out
 as much email as frequently than an email client (Outlook, etc.)

It depends on how many Web Mail users you have.

If you are an ISP with 5000 Web Mail users, it is quite possible for 100 of
those to send 1 message each with a 30 minute time period, there by tripping
hold 2 and effectively black listing the server IP address.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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RE: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Brian Cunningham
I've made the changes below, but the SMTP service on Imail wouldn't
start back up.

b

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 I made these changes and restarted services.

 But then I stopped receiving emails.

Try  implementing  the  DAISYCHAIN  function  as  follows:

(a) COPY SMTP32.EXE to SMTP32.EXB (this step just for backup)

(b) RENAME SMTP32.EXE to IPSMTP32.EXE

(c) COPY DECLUDE.EXE to SMTP32.EXE

(d) Add the DAISYCHAIN directive as described earlier

In  other  words,  do  *not*  make  the  Registry  change,  nor rename
DECLUDE.EXE.  I  do  not believe these steps were part of the standard
procedure  (and  I was the person who originally suggested DAISYCHAIN,
so I do have lots of experience implementing it).

-Sandy



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RE: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Brian Cunningham
Should I be using the SMTP32.exe or the SMTPd32.exe for this process?

Thanks.

b

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To: Brian Cunningham
Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?


 I made these changes and restarted services.

 But then I stopped receiving emails.

Try  implementing  the  DAISYCHAIN  function  as  follows:

(a) COPY SMTP32.EXE to SMTP32.EXB (this step just for backup)

(b) RENAME SMTP32.EXE to IPSMTP32.EXE

(c) COPY DECLUDE.EXE to SMTP32.EXE

(d) Add the DAISYCHAIN directive as described earlier

In  other  words,  do  *not*  make  the  Registry  change,  nor rename
DECLUDE.EXE.  I  do  not believe these steps were part of the standard
procedure  (and  I was the person who originally suggested DAISYCHAIN,
so I do have lots of experience implementing it).

-Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

Anyone thinking about this needs to consider the following:

If you have 1000 users using web mail, it is very likely that just normal
usage of those users will trigger the hold values.
That is a good point -- I don't know offhand how IMail handles this 
situation (specifically, what Received: headers it will add to the original 
E-mail).
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Brian Cunningham
Really dumb questions?

Is the syntax of renamed files case sensitive?

Does the Daisychain call go within the hijack.cfg file or another config
file?

Does the Daisychain call need quotes or simply just a call out?

Sorry for the dumb questions, but these spammers keep creating new
accounts (found another one this morning).  We're killing their IP's,
but they keep coming in from other systems.

I would be awesome if I could get hijack to work with web messaging.

Sandy, do you have this config working on your Imail system?  If so,
what version of Imail are you running?

Thanks again.

b

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From: Sanford Whiteman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:06 AM
To: Brian Cunningham
Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?


 I made these changes and restarted services.

 But then I stopped receiving emails.

Try  implementing  the  DAISYCHAIN  function  as  follows:

(a) COPY SMTP32.EXE to SMTP32.EXB (this step just for backup)

(b) RENAME SMTP32.EXE to IPSMTP32.EXE

(c) COPY DECLUDE.EXE to SMTP32.EXE

(d) Add the DAISYCHAIN directive as described earlier

In  other  words,  do  *not*  make  the  Registry  change,  nor rename
DECLUDE.EXE.  I  do  not believe these steps were part of the standard
procedure  (and  I was the person who originally suggested DAISYCHAIN,
so I do have lots of experience implementing it).

-Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

Should I be using the SMTP32.exe or the SMTPd32.exe for this process?
It *must* be SMTP32.exe (SMTPd32.exe is the SMTP Daemon, the service 
which accepts incoming E-mail, as opposed to the process that delivers the 
E-mail).
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

Really dumb questions?

Is the syntax of renamed files case sensitive?
No.

Does the Daisychain call go within the hijack.cfg file or another config
file?
It can go in any of the Declude .cfg files.

Does the Daisychain call need quotes or simply just a call out?
It should not have any quotes in them.
   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread John Tolmachoff
 Anyone thinking about this needs to consider the following:
 
 If you have 1000 users using web mail, it is very likely that just normal
 usage of those users will trigger the hold values.
 
 That is a good point -- I don't know offhand how IMail handles this
 situation (specifically, what Received: headers it will add to the
original
 E-mail).

Looks like a problem. Imail does not add the IP to the header, even on a
outgoing.

First is local to local.

Second is local to yahoo forwarded to local.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Brian Cunningham
I gotcha.

That could be a problem.

We do have about 5000 + web mail users.

Could this explain why when I make the changes email stops being
delivered?

I've checked the hold(s) and there is nothing being held, but maybe the
processing is delaying delivery?

b

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From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Not Working ?


 In regards to the web messaging possible trap, Do I really need to up 
 the limits for hijack?
 
 It's always been my understanding that web messaging shouldn't send 
 out as much email as frequently than an email client (Outlook, etc.)

It depends on how many Web Mail users you have.

If you are an ISP with 5000 Web Mail users, it is quite possible for 100
of those to send 1 message each with a 30 minute time period, there by
tripping hold 2 and effectively black listing the server IP address.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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SPAMCOP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Brian Cunningham
Gotcha.

I've been using SMTP32.exe (not the daemon).

I just wanted to check because every time I make the change it stops delivery (even 
after I roll the SMTP service within Imail, which does start up successfully).

b

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Should I be using the SMTP32.exe or the SMTPd32.exe for this process?

It *must* be SMTP32.exe (SMTPd32.exe is the SMTP Daemon, the service 
which accepts incoming E-mail, as opposed to the process that delivers the 
E-mail).
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

I've been using SMTP32.exe (not the daemon).

I just wanted to check because every time I make the change it stops 
delivery (even after I roll the SMTP service within Imail, which does 
start up successfully).
The key here is that both IMail and Declude must be set up properly:

[1] IMail needs to know the delivery mechanism (normally declude.exe, or 
smtp32.exe if Declude is not being used).  This means that the registry key 
must be set up, and the IMail SMTP service stopped/restarted to recognize 
the change.

[2] Declude must know what program to call after it is finished, which is 
done through the DAISYCHAIN option.

If either one of those isn't set up properly, E-mail delivery could be stopped.
  -Scott
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Sandy, do you have this config working on your Imail system?

Of course. Many systems.

  If so, what version of Imail are you running?

6.06 and 7.15.

Sorry,  but  I  have to guess that you're not following the directions
accurately.  It's  easy  to  stop  mail  from being transmitted if the
SendName  is  broken. Make sure all of your paths are correct as well,
and post your logs.

-Sandy


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

We've got a locked down public Imail server where anyone can register for 
a free email, but all users have to authenticate before relaying mail.

We've also got Declude with HiJack in order to stop spammers from using 
our system

But somehow we've got registered users sending hundreds of messages 
through us and bypassing HiJack.

Why isn't the email being trapped by HiJack?
The first thing to do is make sure that Declude Hijack is running (you can 
type \IMail\Declude -diag, *without* making any changes, and you should 
see a line Declude Hijack Status: Registered).

Next, you would want to check your \IMail\Declude\hijack.cfg file to make 
sure that the settings are reasonable (the default settings are 
RELAYTHRESHOLD1  10  20 and RELAYTHRESHOLD230  80, 
which allow up to 80 E-mails to be sent within 30 minutes).

Finally, you would check the Declude Hijack log file to see what it says 
about the E-mails.
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Cunningham
I've checked, and the Hijack is registered.

The config is set to:

RELAYTHRESHOLD1 10  20
RELAYTHRESHOLD2 30  60

And the log files have not held anything today.  Everything went through
as OK with juat a couple not local users.

But I see that [EMAIL PROTECTED] now has about 300 outgoing spam messages
in the queue.

Help!

Thanks.

b

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?



We've got a locked down public Imail server where anyone can register 
for
a free email, but all users have to authenticate before relaying mail.

We've also got Declude with HiJack in order to stop spammers from using
our system

But somehow we've got registered users sending hundreds of messages
through us and bypassing HiJack.

Why isn't the email being trapped by HiJack?

The first thing to do is make sure that Declude Hijack is running (you
can 
type \IMail\Declude -diag, *without* making any changes, and you
should 
see a line Declude Hijack Status: Registered).

Next, you would want to check your \IMail\Declude\hijack.cfg file to
make 
sure that the settings are reasonable (the default settings are 
RELAYTHRESHOLD1  10  20 and RELAYTHRESHOLD230
80, 
which allow up to 80 E-mails to be sent within 30 minutes).

Finally, you would check the Declude Hijack log file to see what it says

about the E-mails.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

And the log files have not held anything today.  Everything went through
as OK with juat a couple not local users.
Note that Declude Hijack allows unlimited E-mail to local users, and 
doesn't count that towards a user's quota.

But I see that [EMAIL PROTECTED] now has about 300 outgoing spam messages
in the queue.
Do you have any ALLOWIP lines in your hijack.cfg file?

Is the user sending these E-mails via SMTP, or web messaging (which would 
not be scanned by default)?

Could you E-mail me the log file (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED])?
  -Scott
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SPAMCOP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Cunningham
Thanks Scott.

I've emailed you the file.

We do have a few ALLOWIP's, but I they are for IP's we own.

I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web messaging 
(god knows how they are sending that much email through web messaging) under several 
IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked those IP's within Imail Control 
Access.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?

b

-- Original Message --
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:10:23 -0500


And the log files have not held anything today.  Everything went through
as OK with juat a couple not local users.

Note that Declude Hijack allows unlimited E-mail to local users, and 
doesn't count that towards a user's quota.

But I see that [EMAIL PROTECTED] now has about 300 outgoing spam messages
in the queue.

Do you have any ALLOWIP lines in your hijack.cfg file?

Is the user sending these E-mails via SMTP, or web messaging (which would 
not be scanned by default)?

Could you E-mail me the log file (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED])?
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web 
messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web 
messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked 
those IP's within Imail Control Access.
Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen 
serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?
It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the 
smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging E-mail.

This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming the 
declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in the 
hijack.cfg file.

Then, you need to use regedit to change the 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to point 
to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the IMail 
SMTP service so that IMail will recognize the change
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SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Cunningham
I've got you up until the DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe point.

Do you want me to rename the two files and then add the daisychain line above to the 
config file of hijack?

Thanks.

b

-- Original Message --
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:19:28 -0500


I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web 
messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web 
messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked 
those IP's within Imail Control Access.

Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen 
serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?

It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the 
smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging E-mail.

This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming the 
declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in the 
hijack.cfg file.

Then, you need to use regedit to change the 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to point 
to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the IMail 
SMTP service so that IMail will recognize the change
 -Scott

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SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Cunningham
Will renaming declude.exe to smtp32.exe cause problems with junkmail or virus?

Do I need to rename or make a copy of declude.exe as renamed?

b

-- Original Message --
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:19:28 -0500


I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web 
messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web 
messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked 
those IP's within Imail Control Access.

Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen 
serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?

It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the 
smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging E-mail.

This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming the 
declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in the 
hijack.cfg file.

Then, you need to use regedit to change the 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to point 
to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the IMail 
SMTP service so that IMail will recognize the change
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

I've got you up until the DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe point.

Do you want me to rename the two files and then add the daisychain line 
above to the config file of hijack?
That is correct.

 Will renaming declude.exe to smtp32.exe cause problems with junkmail or 
virus?

No.

 Do I need to rename or make a copy of declude.exe as renamed?

It's best to rename it, just to make sure there isn't any confusion.
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SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Cunningham
Scott,

I made these changes and restarted services.

But then I stopped receiving emails.

When I reverted back, I'm now receiving emails again.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

b

-- Original Message --
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:19:28 -0500


I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web 
messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web 
messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked 
those IP's within Imail Control Access.

Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen 
serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?

It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the 
smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging E-mail.

This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming the 
declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in the 
hijack.cfg file.

Then, you need to use regedit to change the 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to point 
to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the IMail 
SMTP service so that IMail will recognize the change
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Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Not besides that your listed yourself in spamcop and that you need to
take a look at the logs to see what's in them and/or show them to us
so we can see what is failing.

I see a couple of things right of.
1) no reverse DNS for 208.253.112.168 which is your sending ip for you
mailserver.
2) your subnet is listed with numerous spam lists.
DELINK, SPAMCOP, XBL, HEUR1, REVDNS, SPAMCHK, IPNOTINMX, Reverse-IP

- Eje

Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 9:15:11 PM, you wrote:

BC Scott,

BC I made these changes and restarted services.

BC But then I stopped receiving emails.

BC When I reverted back, I'm now receiving emails again.

BC Any thoughts?

BC Thanks.

BC b

BC -- Original Message --
BC From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BC Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BC Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:19:28 -0500


I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web 
messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web 
messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked 
those IP's within Imail Control Access.

Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen 
serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?

It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the 
smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging E-mail.

This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming the 
declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in the 
hijack.cfg file.

Then, you need to use regedit to change the 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to point 
to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the IMail 
SMTP service so that IMail will recognize the change
 -Scott

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Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Cunningham
The reverse dns is because of a nat'ing scheme we have behind two firewalls and a load 
director (posts in the past have already described our config).

The freaking SpamCop is because I apparently have Spammers sending an incredible 
amount of spam through our web messaging (i.e. bypassing hijack and why I'm posting it 
as an issue).  How is that even possible?

b



-- Original Message --
From: Eje Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:27:20 -0600

Not besides that your listed yourself in spamcop and that you need to
take a look at the logs to see what's in them and/or show them to us
so we can see what is failing.

I see a couple of things right of.
1) no reverse DNS for 208.253.112.168 which is your sending ip for you
mailserver.
2) your subnet is listed with numerous spam lists.
DELINK, SPAMCOP, XBL, HEUR1, REVDNS, SPAMCHK, IPNOTINMX, Reverse-IP

- Eje

Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 9:15:11 PM, you wrote:

BC Scott,

BC I made these changes and restarted services.

BC But then I stopped receiving emails.

BC When I reverted back, I'm now receiving emails again.

BC Any thoughts?

BC Thanks.

BC b

BC -- Original Message --
BC From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BC Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BC Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:19:28 -0500


I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web 
messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web 
messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I blocked 
those IP's within Imail Control Access.

Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen 
serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.

How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?

It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the 
smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging E-mail.

This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming the 
declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in the 
hijack.cfg file.

Then, you need to use regedit to change the 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to point 
to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the IMail 
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RE: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread John Tolmachoff
First and foremost, look in the web log and see what account they are using
and shut that account off.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cunningham
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?
 
 The reverse dns is because of a nat'ing scheme we have behind two
firewalls and a
 load director (posts in the past have already described our config).
 
 The freaking SpamCop is because I apparently have Spammers sending an
 incredible amount of spam through our web messaging (i.e. bypassing hijack
and
 why I'm posting it as an issue).  How is that even possible?
 
 b
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Eje Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:27:20 -0600
 
 Not besides that your listed yourself in spamcop and that you need to
 take a look at the logs to see what's in them and/or show them to us
 so we can see what is failing.
 
 I see a couple of things right of.
 1) no reverse DNS for 208.253.112.168 which is your sending ip for you
 mailserver.
 2) your subnet is listed with numerous spam lists.
 DELINK, SPAMCOP, XBL, HEUR1, REVDNS, SPAMCHK, IPNOTINMX,
 Reverse-IP
 
 - Eje
 
 Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 9:15:11 PM, you wrote:
 
 BC Scott,
 
 BC I made these changes and restarted services.
 
 BC But then I stopped receiving emails.
 
 BC When I reverted back, I'm now receiving emails again.
 
 BC Any thoughts?
 
 BC Thanks.
 
 BC b
 
 BC -- Original Message --
 BC From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 BC Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 BC Date:  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:19:28 -0500
 
 
 I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through
web
 messaging (god knows how they are sending that much email through web
 messaging) under several IP's ranging from Nigeria to Israel.  I
blocked
 those IP's within Imail Control Access.
 
 Ah, that explains what is going on.  That's the first time I've seen
 serious spammers try to send E-mail through web messaging.
 
 How can I make Hijack work with webmessaging?
 
 It is possible to do this, by having the declude.exe file act as the
 smtp32.exe file, so that Declude can intercept the web messaging
E-mail.
 
 This is done by renaming the smtp32.exe file to ipsmtp.exe, renaming
the
 declude.exe file to smtp32.exe, using a DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe line in
the
 hijack.cfg file.
 
 Then, you need to use regedit to change the
 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\SendName value to
 point
 to smtp32.exe instead of declude.com, and finally stop/restart the
IMail
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Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?

2003-03-26 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 I made these changes and restarted services.

 But then I stopped receiving emails.

Try  implementing  the  DAISYCHAIN  function  as  follows:

(a) COPY SMTP32.EXE to SMTP32.EXB (this step just for backup)

(b) RENAME SMTP32.EXE to IPSMTP32.EXE

(c) COPY DECLUDE.EXE to SMTP32.EXE

(d) Add the DAISYCHAIN directive as described earlier

In  other  words,  do  *not*  make  the  Registry  change,  nor rename
DECLUDE.EXE.  I  do  not believe these steps were part of the standard
procedure  (and  I was the person who originally suggested DAISYCHAIN,
so I do have lots of experience implementing it).

-Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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