[Declude.JunkMail] hotmail mailservers in several spamdatabases

2007-04-12 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

Ik had to put an extra ip file in place to reduce the points on the hotmail 
mailservers. Several hundred ip numbers for hotmail mailservers are listed in 
several spam databases. I just added an ipfile with:
65.54.244.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers
65.54.245.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers
65.54.246.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers
Which will subtrack 25% of my hold weight to make sure these get through.

How are you guys/gals dealing with this?


Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer



tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail mailservers in several spamdatabases

2007-04-12 Thread Darin Cox
We have counterweight filter files for all of our higher weight tests.  For 
example, if hotmail ifs failing SORBS-SPAM across the board and we decide to 
exempt them from that test, then we'll add a REVDNS test to the counterweight 
file for SORBS-SPAM.  This way we can effectively turn tests on or off 
selectively for certain senders.  We primarily use REVDNS (preferred) and 
MAILFROM (when REVDNS isn't practical or specific enough) in our counterweight 
tests.

Darin.


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From: Bonno Bloksma 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:01 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail mailservers in several spamdatabases


Hi,

Ik had to put an extra ip file in place to reduce the points on the hotmail 
mailservers. Several hundred ip numbers for hotmail mailservers are listed in 
several spam databases. I just added an ipfile with:
65.54.244.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers
65.54.245.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers
65.54.246.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers
Which will subtrack 25% of my hold weight to make sure these get through.

How are you guys/gals dealing with this?


Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer



tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-22 Thread Robert Shubert
Title: Message









Exactly what I had to do. I was skipping for 2 hours on failure, caching dns info, and doing
20 retries on 30 min intervals. Hotmail wasnt getting anything from me.
I switched back to letting my DNS server do the work (never really saw any benefit
anyway), turned off the skip on failure feature (also didnt make much of
a difference except to make my log files a little bigger) and increased my
retry to 24 times at one hour intervals. That immediately fixed the
problem.



I actually think things are running a
little better this way, likely because the extra effort the server does with
dns is offset by my longer retry interval. And I give mail a bigger chance to
get delivered to a problematic (or recently changed) mail server.



Robert





-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Hotmail not accept inbound mail?



I also turned off
Failed Domain Skipping for the same reasons, but I don't believe
that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing confusion when helping
clients get their servers back online after failures. I figure that with
all the processing power that goes into spam and virus blocking, caching and
failed domain skipping aren't but 0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer
to turn them off. Who knows.

Matt



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:





Interestingly
enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not
removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem
persisting over a week and thosehosts never responding.
IfMicrosoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue.











Also, MSN
addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN
domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers.











Since the
problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail
server's local DNS, with the 12,correction, 9out of 16 hosts that
do respond to us.











And no, I
won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of
hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived
on the web for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do
this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP
addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove
your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service.











Andrew 8)





-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

I turned off IMail's
internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host
that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either
time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached
records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning
properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least.

Matt



Robert Shubert wrote:



Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge theproblem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server toretry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.R-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?I'm seeing 2 things:My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threadsandfrequency. I've lowered them.The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. Istuffedthe responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zoneandthat alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, becauseIwanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and Ifound that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told myserverto come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.Andrew 8)-Original Message-From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MXconnectionproblems.http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com 

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick DavidsonSent: 11 May 2004 20:29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from themRick DavidsonNational Systems ManagerNorth American Title Group-- Original Message -From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PMSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-21 Thread Robert Shubert
Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
 Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
 
 Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
 connection resets from them
 
 Rick Davidson
 National Systems Manager
 North American Title Group
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-21 Thread Matt




I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations
like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen
any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My
thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the
servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons
why I turned this off at least.

Matt



Robert Shubert wrote:

  Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
connection resets from them

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-21 Thread Jeff Maze



Is this an option in later version of iMail? We're 
running 6.06 and I don't recall this anywhere..


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
MattSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:58 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail 
not accept inbound mail?
I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid 
situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't 
seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My 
thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers 
that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned 
this off at least.MattRobert Shubert wrote:
Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
connection resets from them

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message



Interestingly 
enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not 
removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem 
persisting over a week and thosehosts never responding. 
IfMicrosoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an 
issue.

Also, MSN 
addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN 
domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers.

Since the problem 
was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's 
local DNS, with the 12,correction, 9out of 16 hosts that do respond 
to us.

And no, I won't 
share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail 
servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web 
for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do this too, look 
at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your 
sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when 
Hotmail returns to normal service.

Andrew 
8)

  
  -Original Message-From: Matt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?I 
  turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like 
  this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any 
  build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My 
  thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the 
  servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why 
  I turned this off at least.MattRobert Shubert 
  wrote:
  Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
connection resets from them

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-21 Thread Matt




I also turned off "Failed Domain Skipping" for the same reasons, but I
don't believe that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing
confusion when helping clients get their servers back online after
failures. I figure that with all the processing power that goes into
spam and virus blocking, caching and failed domain skipping aren't but
0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer to turn them off. Who
knows.

Matt



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

  
  Message
  
  Interestingly
enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has
not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the
problem persisting over a week and thosehosts never responding.
IfMicrosoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue.
  
  Also,
MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for
the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers.
  
  Since
the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back
in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12,correction, 9out of 16
hosts that do respond to us.
  
  And
no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your
subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these
messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If
you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some
time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but
don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail
returns to normal service.
  
  Andrew
8)
  
-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound
mail?


I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations
like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen
any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My
thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the
servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons
why I turned this off at least.

Matt



Robert Shubert wrote:

  Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
  
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Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread David Lewis-Waller
This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Robert
dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me.
the link doesn't work either?

I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space.

Is it just me?

Robert

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM
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 This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection
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 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Jeff Maze
When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using
Opera 7.5).. 

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me.
the link doesn't work either?

I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space.

Is it just me?

Robert

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


 This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX 
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 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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  Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection 
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  Rick Davidson
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Terry Parks
I get the same Page cannot... with IE 6...
Looks like it might be down...

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using
Opera 7.5)..

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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me.
the link doesn't work either?

I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space.

Is it just me?

Robert

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


 This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
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 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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  Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection
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  Rick Davidson
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Terry Parks
We've been experiencing intermittent mail problems with ALL the big guys
(MSN, YAHOO, HOTMAIL) over the past two months. It would appear that when
you get big enough you don't need to follow any rules.



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When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using
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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me.
the link doesn't work either?

I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space.

Is it just me?

Robert

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


 This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
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 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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  Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection
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  Rick Davidson
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Don Brown
substitute 'backup' for the 'www' in the url.


Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:36 AM, Jeff Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JM When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using
JM Opera 7.5).. 

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JM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM
JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

JM dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me.
JM the link doesn't work either?

JM I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space.

JM Is it just me?

JM Robert

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JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM
JM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


 This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX 
 connection problems.

 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
 
  Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection
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  Rick Davidson
  National Systems Manager
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Jeff Maze
Hmmm.. Still didn't work..  There's always http://www.checkdns.net

This is what checkdns says about dnsreport.com:
http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.aspx?domain=www.dnsreport.comdetailed=1 

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substitute 'backup' for the 'www' in the url.


Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:36 AM, Jeff Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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JM (using Opera 7.5)..

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JM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM
JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

JM dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me.
JM the link doesn't work either?

JM I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space.

JM Is it just me?

JM Robert

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JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM
JM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


 This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX 
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 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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  Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Steve :-)




You may want to use this link instead I can't seem to get the main server
to come up.

http://backup.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com

Steve

David Lewis-Waller wrote:

  This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
  
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
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Rick Davidson
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Jeff Maze



You know what's weird.. If I put just backup.dnsreport.com 
in the address bar, it comes up to DNSstuff.com.. 
Whoa..


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
:-)Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:41 AMTo: 
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not accept inbound mail?
You may want to use this link instead I can't seem to get the 
main server to come up.http://backup.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.comSteveDavid 
Lewis-Waller wrote:
This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection
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http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
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Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
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Rick Davidson
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-18 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
 Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29
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 Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
 connection resets from them
 
 Rick Davidson
 National Systems Manager
 North American Title Group
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[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Anybody else with this trouble?  I've got 300+ messages queued to
hotmail.com addresses.  Both my cached and a fresh DNS query look fine.  I
have a ton of:

MX connect fail 65.54.190.50

messages in my Imail log (lots of different IP addresses whose reverse DNS
ends with hotmail.com)

Andrew.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?

2004-05-11 Thread Rick Davidson
Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets
from them

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?


 Anybody else with this trouble?  I've got 300+ messages queued to
 hotmail.com addresses.  Both my cached and a fresh DNS query look fine.  I
 have a ton of:

 MX connect fail 65.54.190.50

 messages in my Imail log (lots of different IP addresses whose reverse DNS
 ends with hotmail.com)

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[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail Sending Mail From IP's with No Reverse DNS

2004-04-22 Thread Darrell LaRock
Has anyone else noticed over the last day or so that some of the hotmail
messages are coming from servers without revdns..  This is a snag cause they
are failing both revdns and spamdomains..  Any thoughts?

Received: from hotmail.com [207.68.164.107] by mail2.gannett-tv.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id A6657F0180; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:32:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
 Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:30:14 -0700
Received: from 134.84.102.157 by sea2-dav3.sea2.hotmail.com with DAV;
Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:30:14 +
X-Originating-IP: [134.84.102.157]
X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [POTENTIAL SPAM]Assignment Desk
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:27:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0009_01C427C5.ECC21740
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2004 22:30:14.0967 (UTC)
FILETIME=[377B2C70:01C427F0]
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'hotmail.com' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS]. [2-10-5000]
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2-48-18000]
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 207.68.164.107
with no reverse DNS entry. [2-53-1a800]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [207.68.164.107]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df665007f01804541.SMD
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12.25.87.100]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df66c3910081cb3c8.SMD
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
X-Spam-Weight: 0
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail Sending Mail From IP's with No Rev erse DNS

2004-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Di Gregorio
There has been a few posting about this over the last week.  I began
noticing it last Friday in my logs.  Test messages I have sent from my
hotmail account are now coming through without failing the REVDNS test.  It
looks like they are finally correcting this issue.  It's about time!

Jeffrey Di GregorioCCNP MCSE
Systems Administrator
Pacific School of Religion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
510-849-8283


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail Sending Mail From IP's with No Reverse
DNS

Has anyone else noticed over the last day or so that some of the hotmail
messages are coming from servers without revdns..  This is a snag cause they
are failing both revdns and spamdomains..  Any thoughts?

Received: from hotmail.com [207.68.164.107] by mail2.gannett-tv.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id A6657F0180; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:32:05 -0400
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
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Received: from 134.84.102.157 by sea2-dav3.sea2.hotmail.com with DAV;
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X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [POTENTIAL SPAM]Assignment Desk
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:27:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0009_01C427C5.ECC21740
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2004 22:30:14.0967 (UTC)
FILETIME=[377B2C70:01C427F0]
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'hotmail.com' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS]. [2-10-5000]
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2-48-18000]
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 207.68.164.107
with no reverse DNS entry. [2-53-1a800]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [207.68.164.107]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df665007f01804541.SMD
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12.25.87.100]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df66c3910081cb3c8.SMD
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
X-Spam-Weight: 0
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Yep, got a complaint today as well.  Hopefully, AOL is blocking them so that
they'll snap out of their coma.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 03:51 PM
To: Declude. JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.


About a week ago Hotmail and MSN had certain mail servers that did not have
reverse DNS entries.  Is anyone else seeing this?  This is causing a lot of
false positives.  I sent an email to Microsoft but that is probably a total
waste of time.

Anybody know what is up with this.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
303-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.

2004-04-20 Thread Jeffrey Di Gregorio
Yes, 

I am getting the same.  I have also alerted Microsoft via an employee friend
there (hoping this might expediate the fix).  This was last Friday...


Jeffrey



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Pacific School of Religion
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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Schick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:51 PM
To: Declude. JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.

About a week ago Hotmail and MSN had certain mail servers that did not have
reverse DNS entries.  Is anyone else seeing this?  This is causing a lot of
false positives.  I sent an email to Microsoft but that is probably a total
waste of time.

Anybody know what is up with this.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
303-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail follow up

2004-04-15 Thread Chuck Schick
I thought I would forward some IPs this is happening on.

65.54.241.110
65.54.241.118

These IPs are registered to Microsoft when I do an IPWHOIS but when I do a
reverse DNS I get a No PTR record response.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
303-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail being bounced as Undeliverable

2004-03-08 Thread Adrian Titei
Hey Chris,

Have you tried to peek in the log? 
The truth should be in there... 
Try to identify the spoolname and then run a search for that string in
the dec.log. See what you find there.

Cheers,
Adrian

Chris Hickey wrote:
 
 Anyone have an idea why emails from Hotmail are getting bounced back to the
 user as undeliverable?  I can't make heads or tails of it.. some of the
 emails go through, some don't.  One that didn't was to a single person, no
 attachment, just a copy/paste of a news article.
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-19 Thread Bill Landry
These lines are not long enough to wrap, so they are correct as listed
below.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 I would like to try the file listed below for the spamdomains...but I am
 nto sure if wrapping has taken place in the mail client. Could someone
send
 me a attachement of the text file that has been working for them...thanks
 in advance...At 04:31 PM 12/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:

 altavista.  .av.com
 amazon.com  .forevermail.com
 ameritech.net  .sbc.com
 .aol.com
 @aol.com  .aol.com
 .apple.com
 @apple.com  .apple.com
 .att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
 @att.   .att.
 attbi.com  .comcast.
 bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
 .bellsouth.net
 @bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
 .btinternet.
 @btinternet.  .btinternet.
 .buy.com  .dartmail.com
 @buy.com  .buy.com
 .charter.net
 @charter.net  .charter.net
 .cisco.com
 @cisco.com  .cisco.com
 .comcast.
 @comcast.  .comcast.
 .compaq.com
 @compaq.com  .compaq.com
 compuserve.com  .aol.com
 concentric.com  .cnchost.com
 concentric.net  .cnc.net
 .cox.
 @cox.   .cox.
 @cs.com   .aol.com
 .dell.com
 @dell.com  .dell.com
 earthlink.  .mindspring.
 .ebay.com  .emailebay.com
 @ebay.com  .ebay.com
 excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
 .gateway.com  .dartmail.net
 @gateway.com  .gateway.com
 geocities.com  .yahoo.com
 gte.   .verizon.
 .hotmail.com
 @hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
 hp.com   .compaq.com
 juno.com  .untd.com
 .lycos.com
 @lycos.com  .lycos.com
 .microsoft.com
 @microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
 mindspring.  .earthlink.
 msn.com   .hotmail.com
 netscape.  .aol.com
 netzero.  .untd.com
 .paypal.com
 @paypal.com  .paypal.com
 prodigy.net  .yahoo.
 psi.   .cogentco.com
 qwest.   .uswest.
 .rr.com
 @rr.com   .rr.com
 .sbc.com
 @sbc.com  .sbc.com
 sprint.   .sprintlink.net
 swbell.net  .prodigy.net
 uswest.   .qwest.
 verio.   .veriomail.com
 verizon.com  .gte.com
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[Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Ron Rushing
Greetings--

Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming 
from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating 
from the real hotmail host(s) through ?

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CCNA CCDA
Network Manager- ESC7Net
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1909 N. Longview St.
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903-988-6955
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Rich
Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of spam,
cable modem IP's and such.  Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty
good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to it.

I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 Greetings--

 Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming
 from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating
 from the real hotmail host(s) through ?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Ron, 

The best thing for hotmail is to setup spamdomains.  For hotmail we use the 
following in our spamdomains file 

hotmail.com	msn.com 

Darrell

Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for
Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com 

Ron Rushing writes: 

Greetings-- 

Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming 
from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating 
from the real hotmail host(s) through ? 

--  

 

==Ron Rushing==
CCNA CCDA
Network Manager- ESC7Net 

Region VII Education Service Center
1909 N. Longview St.
Kilgore, Texas 75662
903-988-6955
FX 903-988-6965
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Omar K.
Can someone please share their spamdomains file?

Thanks,

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Ron, 

The best thing for hotmail is to setup spamdomains.  For hotmail we use the 
following in our spamdomains file 

hotmail.com msn.com 

Darrell
 
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 Greetings-- 
 
 Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming 
 from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating 
 from the real hotmail host(s) through ? 
 
 
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 ==Ron Rushing==
 CCNA CCDA
 Network Manager- ESC7Net 
 
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 1909 N. Longview St.
 Kilgore, Texas 75662
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Bill Landry
I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been
working well for me, thus far:

altavista.  .av.com
amazon.com  .forevermail.com
ameritech.net  .sbc.com
.aol.com
@aol.com  .aol.com
.apple.com
@apple.com  .apple.com
.att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
@att.   .att.
attbi.com  .comcast.
bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
.bellsouth.net
@bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
.btinternet.
@btinternet.  .btinternet.
.buy.com  .dartmail.com
@buy.com  .buy.com
.charter.net
@charter.net  .charter.net
.cisco.com
@cisco.com  .cisco.com
.comcast.
@comcast.  .comcast.
.compaq.com
@compaq.com  .compaq.com
compuserve.com  .aol.com
concentric.com  .cnchost.com
concentric.net  .cnc.net
.cox.
@cox.   .cox.
@cs.com   .aol.com
.dell.com
@dell.com  .dell.com
earthlink.  .mindspring.
.ebay.com  .emailebay.com
@ebay.com  .ebay.com
excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
.gateway.com  .dartmail.net
@gateway.com  .gateway.com
geocities.com  .yahoo.com
gte.   .verizon.
.hotmail.com
@hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
hp.com   .compaq.com
juno.com  .untd.com
.lycos.com
@lycos.com  .lycos.com
.microsoft.com
@microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
mindspring.  .earthlink.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.  .aol.com
netzero.  .untd.com
.paypal.com
@paypal.com  .paypal.com
prodigy.net  .yahoo.
psi.   .cogentco.com
qwest.   .uswest.
.rr.com
@rr.com   .rr.com
.sbc.com
@sbc.com  .sbc.com
sprint.   .sprintlink.net
swbell.net  .prodigy.net
uswest.   .qwest.
verio.   .veriomail.com
verizon.com  .gte.com
verizon.net  .bellatlantic.
.yahoo.
@yahoo.   .yahoo.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of
spam,
 cable modem IP's and such.  Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty
 good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to
it.

 I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ron Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


  Greetings--
 
  Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming
  from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating
  from the real hotmail host(s) through ?
 
 
  -- 
 
 
 
  ==Ron Rushing==
  CCNA CCDA
  Network Manager- ESC7Net
 
  Region VII Education Service Center
  1909 N. Longview St.
  Kilgore, Texas 75662
  903-988-6955
  FX 903-988-6965
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Darryl Koster


How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need to
create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from below)
but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone
give me a quick how to.

Thanks

Darryl Koster

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been
working well for me, thus far:

altavista.  .av.com
amazon.com  .forevermail.com
ameritech.net  .sbc.com
.aol.com
@aol.com  .aol.com
.apple.com
@apple.com  .apple.com
.att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
@att.   .att.
attbi.com  .comcast.
bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
.bellsouth.net
@bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
.btinternet.
@btinternet.  .btinternet.
.buy.com  .dartmail.com
@buy.com  .buy.com
.charter.net
@charter.net  .charter.net
.cisco.com
@cisco.com  .cisco.com
.comcast.
@comcast.  .comcast.
.compaq.com
@compaq.com  .compaq.com
compuserve.com  .aol.com
concentric.com  .cnchost.com
concentric.net  .cnc.net
.cox.
@cox.   .cox.
@cs.com   .aol.com
.dell.com
@dell.com  .dell.com
earthlink.  .mindspring.
.ebay.com  .emailebay.com
@ebay.com  .ebay.com
excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
.gateway.com  .dartmail.net
@gateway.com  .gateway.com
geocities.com  .yahoo.com
gte.   .verizon.
.hotmail.com
@hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
hp.com   .compaq.com
juno.com  .untd.com
.lycos.com
@lycos.com  .lycos.com
.microsoft.com
@microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
mindspring.  .earthlink.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.  .aol.com
netzero.  .untd.com
.paypal.com
@paypal.com  .paypal.com
prodigy.net  .yahoo.
psi.   .cogentco.com
qwest.   .uswest.
.rr.com
@rr.com   .rr.com
.sbc.com
@sbc.com  .sbc.com
sprint.   .sprintlink.net
swbell.net  .prodigy.net
uswest.   .qwest.
verio.   .veriomail.com
verizon.com  .gte.com
verizon.net  .bellatlantic.
.yahoo.
@yahoo.   .yahoo.

Bill
- Original Message -
From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of
spam,
 cable modem IP's and such.  Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty
 good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to
it.

 I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.

 Rich
 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


  Greetings--
 
  Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming
  from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating
  from the real hotmail host(s) through ?
 
 
  --
 
 
 
  ==Ron Rushing==
  CCNA CCDA
  Network Manager- ESC7Net
 
  Region VII Education Service Center
  1909 N. Longview St.
  Kilgore, Texas 75662
  903-988-6955
  FX 903-988-6965
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Bill Landry
Add an entry to your global.cfg like:

SPAM-DOMAINS spamdomains M:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 10 0

setting the weight test to whatever you want (reflected as a weight 10
above).

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Darryl Koster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?




 How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need
to
 create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from
below)
 but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone
 give me a quick how to.

 Thanks

 Darryl Koster

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has
been
 working well for me, thus far:

 altavista.  .av.com
 amazon.com  .forevermail.com
 ameritech.net  .sbc.com
 .aol.com
 @aol.com  .aol.com
 .apple.com
 @apple.com  .apple.com
 .att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
 @att.   .att.
 attbi.com  .comcast.
 bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
 .bellsouth.net
 @bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
 .btinternet.
 @btinternet.  .btinternet.
 .buy.com  .dartmail.com
 @buy.com  .buy.com
 .charter.net
 @charter.net  .charter.net
 .cisco.com
 @cisco.com  .cisco.com
 .comcast.
 @comcast.  .comcast.
 .compaq.com
 @compaq.com  .compaq.com
 compuserve.com  .aol.com
 concentric.com  .cnchost.com
 concentric.net  .cnc.net
 .cox.
 @cox.   .cox.
 @cs.com   .aol.com
 .dell.com
 @dell.com  .dell.com
 earthlink.  .mindspring.
 .ebay.com  .emailebay.com
 @ebay.com  .ebay.com
 excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
 .gateway.com  .dartmail.net
 @gateway.com  .gateway.com
 geocities.com  .yahoo.com
 gte.   .verizon.
 .hotmail.com
 @hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
 hp.com   .compaq.com
 juno.com  .untd.com
 .lycos.com
 @lycos.com  .lycos.com
 .microsoft.com
 @microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
 mindspring.  .earthlink.
 msn.com   .hotmail.com
 netscape.  .aol.com
 netzero.  .untd.com
 .paypal.com
 @paypal.com  .paypal.com
 prodigy.net  .yahoo.
 psi.   .cogentco.com
 qwest.   .uswest.
 .rr.com
 @rr.com   .rr.com
 .sbc.com
 @sbc.com  .sbc.com
 sprint.   .sprintlink.net
 swbell.net  .prodigy.net
 uswest.   .qwest.
 verio.   .veriomail.com
 verizon.com  .gte.com
 verizon.net  .bellatlantic.
 .yahoo.
 @yahoo.   .yahoo.

 Bill
 - Original Message -
 From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


  Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of
 spam,
  cable modem IP's and such.  Bill has a spamdomains list that works
pretty
  good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to
 it.
 
  I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.
 
  Rich
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
 
 
   Greetings--
  
   Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming
   from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail
originating
   from the real hotmail host(s) through ?
  
  
   --
  
  
  
   ==Ron Rushing==
   CCNA CCDA
   Network Manager- ESC7Net
  
   Region VII Education Service Center
   1909 N. Longview St.
   Kilgore, Texas 75662
   903-988-6955
   FX 903-988-6965
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
In global.cfg:

SPAMDOMAINS spamdomains c:\imail\declude\spamdomains.txt
x   7   0

change the weight to suit your needs...change the path to that of your
location on your server




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web SolutionsR, Inc.
804-346-5300 ext. 1
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) ext. 1
http://globalweb.net 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darryl Koster
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?




How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need
to create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from
below) but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could
someone give me a quick how to.

Thanks

Darryl Koster

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has
been working well for me, thus far:

altavista.  .av.com
amazon.com  .forevermail.com
ameritech.net  .sbc.com
.aol.com
@aol.com  .aol.com
.apple.com
@apple.com  .apple.com
.att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
@att.   .att.
attbi.com  .comcast.
bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
.bellsouth.net
@bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
.btinternet.
@btinternet.  .btinternet.
.buy.com  .dartmail.com
@buy.com  .buy.com
.charter.net
@charter.net  .charter.net
.cisco.com
@cisco.com  .cisco.com
.comcast.
@comcast.  .comcast.
.compaq.com
@compaq.com  .compaq.com
compuserve.com  .aol.com
concentric.com  .cnchost.com
concentric.net  .cnc.net
.cox.
@cox.   .cox.
@cs.com   .aol.com
.dell.com
@dell.com  .dell.com
earthlink.  .mindspring.
.ebay.com  .emailebay.com
@ebay.com  .ebay.com
excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
.gateway.com  .dartmail.net
@gateway.com  .gateway.com
geocities.com  .yahoo.com
gte.   .verizon.
.hotmail.com
@hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
hp.com   .compaq.com
juno.com  .untd.com
.lycos.com
@lycos.com  .lycos.com
.microsoft.com
@microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
mindspring.  .earthlink.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.  .aol.com
netzero.  .untd.com
.paypal.com
@paypal.com  .paypal.com
prodigy.net  .yahoo.
psi.   .cogentco.com
qwest.   .uswest.
.rr.com
@rr.com   .rr.com
.sbc.com
@sbc.com  .sbc.com
sprint.   .sprintlink.net
swbell.net  .prodigy.net
uswest.   .qwest.
verio.   .veriomail.com
verizon.com  .gte.com
verizon.net  .bellatlantic.
.yahoo.
@yahoo.   .yahoo.

Bill
- Original Message -
From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of
spam,
 cable modem IP's and such.  Bill has a spamdomains list that works 
 pretty good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post 
 the link to
it.

 I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.

 Rich
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 From: Ron Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


  Greetings--
 
  Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk 
  coming from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail 
  originating from the real hotmail host(s) through ?
 
 
  --
 
 
 
  ==Ron Rushing==
  CCNA CCDA
  Network Manager- ESC7Net
 
  Region VII Education Service Center
  1909 N. Longview St.
  Kilgore, Texas 75662
  903-988-6955
  FX 903-988-6965
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Marc



Could you explain to a newbie 
what the format is of the C:\Imail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt file is and what the 
entries mean? Looking back through the archives, I see some lines with single 
entries and others with 2 entries per line. Like:

.aol.com@aol.com 
.aol.com
Thx.
-Marc

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  From: 
  Bill 
  Landry 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:41 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL 
  ?
  Add an entry to your global.cfg like:SPAM-DOMAINS 
  spamdomains M:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 10 0setting the weight 
  test to whatever you want (reflected as a weight 
  10above).Bill- Original Message - From: "Darryl 
  Koster" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PMSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL 
  ? How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test 
  in my system. I know I needto create 
  /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains 
  frombelow) but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG 
  file. Could someone give me a quick "how to". 
  Thanks Darryl Koster -Original 
  Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? I haven't 
  updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this hasbeen 
  working well for me, thus far: altavista. 
  .av.com amazon.com .forevermail.com ameritech.net 
  .sbc.com .aol.com @aol.com .aol.com 
  .apple.com @apple.com .apple.com .att. 
  .cdpd.airdata.com @att. .att. attbi.com 
  .comcast. bellatlantic.net .verizon.net .bellsouth.net 
  @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net .btinternet. 
  @btinternet. .btinternet. .buy.com .dartmail.com 
  @buy.com .buy.com .charter.net @charter.net 
  .charter.net .cisco.com @cisco.com .cisco.com 
  .comcast. @comcast. .comcast. .compaq.com 
  @compaq.com .compaq.com compuserve.com .aol.com 
  concentric.com .cnchost.com concentric.net 
  .cnc.net .cox. @cox. .cox. 
  @cs.com .aol.com .dell.com @dell.com 
  .dell.com earthlink. .mindspring. .ebay.com 
  .emailebay.com @ebay.com .ebay.com excite.com 
  .excitenetwork.com .gateway.com .dartmail.net 
  @gateway.com .gateway.com geocities.com .yahoo.com 
  gte. .verizon. .hotmail.com @hotmail.com 
  .hotmail.com hp.com .compaq.com juno.com 
  .untd.com .lycos.com @lycos.com .lycos.com 
  .microsoft.com @microsoft.com .microsoft.com 
  mindspring. .earthlink. msn.com .hotmail.com 
  netscape. .aol.com netzero. .untd.com 
  .paypal.com @paypal.com .paypal.com prodigy.net 
  .yahoo. psi. .cogentco.com qwest. 
  .uswest. .rr.com @rr.com .rr.com 
  .sbc.com @sbc.com .sbc.com sprint. 
  .sprintlink.net swbell.net .prodigy.net 
  uswest. .qwest. verio. .veriomail.com 
  verizon.com .gte.com verizon.net .bellatlantic. 
  .yahoo. @yahoo. .yahoo. Bill - 
  Original Message - From: "Rich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?  Spamdomains works, 
  and we've been building a list of common sources of spam,  
  cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that 
  workspretty  good, if there's an update to it he might read 
  this and post the link to it.   I haven't had 
  a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.   Rich 
   - Original Message -  From: "Ron Rushing" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM  Subject: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? 
  Greetings-- Would someone please share a 
  strategy to identify or block junk coming   from 
  spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mailoriginating 
from the real hotmail host(s) through ?   
  -- 
  ==Ron Rushing==   CCNA 
  CCDA   Network Manager- ESC7Net
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Glenn Brooks
I would like to try the file listed below for the spamdomains...but I am 
nto sure if wrapping has taken place in the mail client. Could someone send 
me a attachement of the text file that has been working for them...thanks 
in advance...At 04:31 PM 12/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:

altavista.  .av.com
amazon.com  .forevermail.com
ameritech.net  .sbc.com
.aol.com
@aol.com  .aol.com
.apple.com
@apple.com  .apple.com
.att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
@att.   .att.
attbi.com  .comcast.
bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
.bellsouth.net
@bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
.btinternet.
@btinternet.  .btinternet.
.buy.com  .dartmail.com
@buy.com  .buy.com
.charter.net
@charter.net  .charter.net
.cisco.com
@cisco.com  .cisco.com
.comcast.
@comcast.  .comcast.
.compaq.com
@compaq.com  .compaq.com
compuserve.com  .aol.com
concentric.com  .cnchost.com
concentric.net  .cnc.net
.cox.
@cox.   .cox.
@cs.com   .aol.com
.dell.com
@dell.com  .dell.com
earthlink.  .mindspring.
.ebay.com  .emailebay.com
@ebay.com  .ebay.com
excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
.gateway.com  .dartmail.net
@gateway.com  .gateway.com
geocities.com  .yahoo.com
gte.   .verizon.
.hotmail.com
@hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
hp.com   .compaq.com
juno.com  .untd.com
.lycos.com
@lycos.com  .lycos.com
.microsoft.com
@microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
mindspring.  .earthlink.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.  .aol.com
netzero.  .untd.com
.paypal.com
@paypal.com  .paypal.com
prodigy.net  .yahoo.
psi.   .cogentco.com
qwest.   .uswest.
.rr.com
@rr.com   .rr.com
.sbc.com
@sbc.com  .sbc.com
sprint.   .sprintlink.net
swbell.net  .prodigy.net
uswest.   .qwest.
verio.   .veriomail.com
verizon.com  .gte.com
verizon.net  .bellatlantic.
.yahoo.
@yahoo.   .yahoo.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Could you explain to a newbie what the format is of the 
C:\Imail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt file is and what the entries mean? 
Looking back through the archives, I see some lines with single entries 
and others with 2 entries per line. Like:

.aol.com
@aol.com   .aol.com
The first column is text that must appear in the return address of the 
E-mail (from the X-Declude-Sender: header) header in order for that line to 
be used.  If there is a match there, then the reverse DNS entry must 
contain either the text from the first column or the second column.

So .aol.com would not do much, as most AOL E-mail comes from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (which doesn't contain .aol.com).  However, E-mail from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] would need to come from an IP with a reverse DNS entry 
containing .aol.com.

The @aol.com .aol.com line would require that any E-mail from @aol.com 
have a reverse DNS entry with either @aol.com or .aol.com in it (note 
that a reverse DNS entry won't have @aol.com in it, so it essentially 
would require the reverse DNS entry to contain .aol.com).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?

2003-12-18 Thread Darryl Koster


I had pretty much everything correct except the SPAM-DOMAINS (I had
SPAMDOMAINS).
Thank you very much for clearing this up for me, it has truly knocked the
level of spam down significantly in just over an hour.

Darryl Koster

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


Add an entry to your global.cfg like:

SPAM-DOMAINS spamdomains M:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 10 0

setting the weight test to whatever you want (reflected as a weight 10
above).

Bill
- Original Message -
From: Darryl Koster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?




 How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need
to
 create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from
below)
 but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone
 give me a quick how to.

 Thanks

 Darryl Koster

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


 I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has
been
 working well for me, thus far:

 altavista.  .av.com
 amazon.com  .forevermail.com
 ameritech.net  .sbc.com
 .aol.com
 @aol.com  .aol.com
 .apple.com
 @apple.com  .apple.com
 .att.   .cdpd.airdata.com
 @att.   .att.
 attbi.com  .comcast.
 bellatlantic.net .verizon.net
 .bellsouth.net
 @bellsouth.net  .bellsouth.net
 .btinternet.
 @btinternet.  .btinternet.
 .buy.com  .dartmail.com
 @buy.com  .buy.com
 .charter.net
 @charter.net  .charter.net
 .cisco.com
 @cisco.com  .cisco.com
 .comcast.
 @comcast.  .comcast.
 .compaq.com
 @compaq.com  .compaq.com
 compuserve.com  .aol.com
 concentric.com  .cnchost.com
 concentric.net  .cnc.net
 .cox.
 @cox.   .cox.
 @cs.com   .aol.com
 .dell.com
 @dell.com  .dell.com
 earthlink.  .mindspring.
 .ebay.com  .emailebay.com
 @ebay.com  .ebay.com
 excite.com  .excitenetwork.com
 .gateway.com  .dartmail.net
 @gateway.com  .gateway.com
 geocities.com  .yahoo.com
 gte.   .verizon.
 .hotmail.com
 @hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
 hp.com   .compaq.com
 juno.com  .untd.com
 .lycos.com
 @lycos.com  .lycos.com
 .microsoft.com
 @microsoft.com  .microsoft.com
 mindspring.  .earthlink.
 msn.com   .hotmail.com
 netscape.  .aol.com
 netzero.  .untd.com
 .paypal.com
 @paypal.com  .paypal.com
 prodigy.net  .yahoo.
 psi.   .cogentco.com
 qwest.   .uswest.
 .rr.com
 @rr.com   .rr.com
 .sbc.com
 @sbc.com  .sbc.com
 sprint.   .sprintlink.net
 swbell.net  .prodigy.net
 uswest.   .qwest.
 verio.   .veriomail.com
 verizon.com  .gte.com
 verizon.net  .bellatlantic.
 .yahoo.
 @yahoo.   .yahoo.

 Bill
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 From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?


  Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of
 spam,
  cable modem IP's and such.  Bill has a spamdomains list that works
pretty
  good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to
 it.
 
  I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.
 
  Rich
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  From: Ron Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
 
 
   Greetings--
  
   Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming
   from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail
originating
   from the real hotmail host(s) through ?
  
  
   --
  
  
  
   ==Ron Rushing==
   CCNA CCDA
   Network Manager- ESC7Net
  
   Region VII Education Service Center
   1909 N. Longview St.
   Kilgore, Texas 75662
   903-988-6955
   FX 903-988-6965
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[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail

2003-07-08 Thread Shayne Embry
Anyone else seeing an unusually large attack from Hotmail IP addresses?
My log files have tripled in the last 12 hours. Here's a snippet from
today's log:

07:08 00:00 SMTPD(0D96028C) [65.54.165.29] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(0D96028C) [65.54.165.29] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(40E201C4) [65.54.237.68] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(40E201C4) [65.54.237.68] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(BE9D024E) [65.54.165.24] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(BE9D024E) [65.54.165.24] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(B33A0216) [65.54.165.29] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(AC5E0236) [65.54.237.68] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(AC5E0236) [65.54.237.68] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(CA9E025A) [65.54.237.68] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(CA9E025A) [65.54.237.68] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(B33A0216) [65.54.165.29] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(B33A0216) [65.54.165.29] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(65930228) [65.54.165.29] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(050B0218) [65.54.165.24] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(7272022A) [65.54.165.24] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(0D96028C) [65.54.165.29] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(40E201C4) [65.54.237.68] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(BE9D024E) [65.54.165.24] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(AC5E0236) [65.54.237.68] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(65930228) [65.54.165.29] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(65930228) [65.54.165.29] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(CA9E025A) [65.54.237.68] MAIL FROM:
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(050B0218) [65.54.165.24] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(050B0218) [65.54.165.24] ERR mail.promit.com invalid
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07:08 00:00 SMTPD(7272022A) [65.54.165.24] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Shayne Embry

PROMIT
P.O. Box 12  .  Clifton, TX 76634
http://www.promit.com
254-675-3678
800-891-4645

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[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Smith
What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other web-based
mail systems?
It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so frequently listed on RBL's and is
a large source of spam but it's also a large source of legitimate email.

They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already at 6-8
points on most peoples Junkmail.
You can't whitelist them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge.

I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, yahoo,
etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let message sniffer
do some magic on these sites.

Thoughts?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Kami Razvan
What we have done is weigh negatively the sum of those tests for these two
domains (Yahoo, Hotmail).

We have a list of any free domains that we have received mail from.  The
free sites we add 5 to start with. [I can send you the list if you want]

The Hotmail and Yahoo spam are typically caught by a lot of other tests such
as body filters.  Basically we have created a filter for all the URL's that
are used in the spam and weigh them if they occur.  Combination of these has
reduced the spam to almost 1 or 2 a week (even if that).  We do not use
Sniffer.. So far have not found any need for it since we have an extensive
filter file for URL addresses that appear in spam. (I can have it sent to
you if you want).

For Base64 tests we have basically made the weight enough such that if any
other tests are failed, or if it is coming from any free email address then
it will be held for review.

Regards,
Kami

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What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other web-based mail
systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so frequently listed on RBL's
and is a large source of spam but it's also a large source of legitimate
email.

They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already at 6-8 points
on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist them, and the RBL's usually
send them over the edge.

I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, yahoo, etc to
subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let message sniffer do some
magic on these sites.

Thoughts?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread John Tolmachoff
The way I have it configured, they will end up with a weight of 8 and we
hold at 20, so they would have to fail a test like SPAMCOP or NOXMAIL or one
of our major filters to be held.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread David Lewis-Waller
We use Declude standard weights and add 15 for ones that fail
SortMonster tests. We hold on weights over 30 and I don't think we've
caught legitimate mail from these sources for sometime. Our only real
fine tuning was to negative weight some email domains (below). We don't
use any kill lists at all.

MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com
MAILFROM -30 CONTAINS @economist.com
MAILFROM -100 CONTAINS .ft.com
MAILFROM -30 CONTAINS @bbc.co.uk
HEADERS 15 CONTAINS charset=GB2312

David
WiSS Limited

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...


What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other web-based
mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so frequently listed on
RBL's and is a large source of spam but it's also a large source of
legitimate email.

They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already at 6-8
points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist them, and the RBL's
usually send them over the edge.

I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, yahoo,
etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let message sniffer
do some magic on these sites.

Thoughts?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Smith
That's the problem... Hotmail is on and off of Spamcop every other day.
We bounce at 12 and delete at 20.
Spamcop is at 8 so I'll put in -8 for hotmail which will adjust for the
nopostmaster and noabuse.

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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
 
 
 The way I have it configured, they will end up with a weight 
 of 8 and we hold at 20, so they would have to fail a test 
 like SPAMCOP or NOXMAIL or one of our major filters to be held.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
 IT Manager, Network Engineer
 RelianceSoft, Inc.
 Fullerton, CA  92835
 www.reliancesoft.com
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Madscientist
Agreed here - we've been working on various white-rules for these
domains and each attempt has failed due to the amount of actual spam
sourced from these servers.
_M

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
| Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:54 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
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| 
| I'd stay away from IP's because they can change all of the 
| time. But the problem still is that actual spam comes from those IP's.
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
| Markus Gufler
|  Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:48 AM
|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
|  
|  
|  I'm not sure if I'm right with this:
|  Should it be possible to determine a list of IP-ranges from
|  the real outgoung smtp-servers of this popular domains, then 
|  Declude probably can add a new test if this mail (using a 
|  popular from domain) commes from one of this ip-ranges.
|  
|  Even if this ip-ranges are very wide (Class C or B) a lot of
|  spamming servers forging the recipients adress should be caught.
|  
|  Markus
|  
|  
|  
|  
|   -Original Message-
|   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
| Mark Smith
|   Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:32 PM
|   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
|   
|   
|   What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other 
|   web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so 
|   frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but it's 
|   also a large source of legitimate email.
|   
|   They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're 
| already at 6-8 
|   points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist 
| them, and the 
|   RBL's usually send them over the edge.
|   
|   I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, 
|   yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let 
|   message sniffer do some magic on these sites.
|   
|   Thoughts?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail !?

2002-05-01 Thread Eje Gustafsson

Nothing like posting on your own post.
Also seems atleast one AOL server and one prodidgy server also been
OSSRC listed.
Got a chunk of legit mail that was caught this morning and tonight
thanks to OSSRC.
Guess I really need to go all the way with the weighted system
consider I'm using a combination weighted and hardcoded tests.

Wednesday, May 01, 2002, 10:38:25 AM, you wrote:

EG Seems like hotmail been ossrc listed !? Found it in our hold queue
EG this morning. There was a bunch from this person sent to this same
EG person and you can see in the message that it's a continues thread.

EG Received: from hotmail.com [64.4.30.124] by imail.fament.com with ESMTP
EG   (SMTPD32-7.07) id ACB422910122; Wed, 01 May 2002 09:33:24 -0500
EG Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
EG  Wed, 1 May 2002 07:30:20 -0700
EG X-Originating-IP: [12.147.72.21]
EG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EG References: 003201c1f114$05edb930$291bbdd0@rene
EG Subject: Re: thoughts
EG Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:32:29 -0600
EG MIME-Version: 1.0
EG Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
EG boundary==_NextPart_000_0083_01C1F0EA.BACDFD80
EG X-Priority: 3
EG X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
EG X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
EG X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
EG Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EG X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 14:30:20.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[B90E8780:01C1F11C]
EG X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [64.4.30.124]
EG X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam.
EG X-Note: This E-mail was sent from oe20.pav1.hotmail.com. ([64.4.30.124]).
EG X-Tests-Failed: OSSRC.
  

EG Best regards,
EG  Eje Gustafsson   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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EG The Family Entertainment Network  http://www.fament.com
EG Phone : 620-231-  Fax   : 620-231-4066
EG eBay UserID : macahan
EG   - Your Full Time Professionals -

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail !?

2002-05-01 Thread Andy Schmidt

Actually - you need to disable OSSRC for now.

SPEWS has an error in their database instead of listing 64.x.x.x to
64.x.y.z - they accidentally omitted the second 6 - so currently their
database is blocking:

64.x.x.x to 4.x.y.z

Of course, just like Spammers, SPEWS does NOT provide true contact
information.  They play god we don't need anyone to ever contact us, we are
always without fault.  Makes you appreciate, why outfits like them get sued
into the ground eventually.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail !?


Seems like hotmail been ossrc listed !? Found it in our hold queue
this morning. There was a bunch from this person sent to this same
person and you can see in the message that it's a continues thread.

Received: from hotmail.com [64.4.30.124] by imail.fament.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id ACB422910122; Wed, 01 May 2002 09:33:24 -0500
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
 Wed, 1 May 2002 07:30:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [12.147.72.21]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: 003201c1f114$05edb930$291bbdd0@rene
Subject: Re: thoughts
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:32:29 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0083_01C1F0EA.BACDFD80
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 14:30:20.0920 (UTC)
FILETIME=[B90E8780:01C1F11C]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [64.4.30.124]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from oe20.pav1.hotmail.com. ([64.4.30.124]).
X-Tests-Failed: OSSRC.


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[Declude.JunkMail] hotmail issue

2002-01-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Comments please.  This is an email caught by declude that is a
legitimate email.  I'm still learning so be gentle ;).

This the recent log entry of an email that failed MAILFROM

01/02/2002 14:04:48 Q59c9280 Msg failed MAILFROM (Domain hotmail.com; has no MX/A 
records.).
01/02/2002 14:04:48 Q59c9280 Subject: FLBA Online Information Request
01/02/2002 14:04:48 Q59c9280 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Header:

Received: from mail.redcreek.net [208.7.129.3] by thumper.thumpernet.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A9C923A40280; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:04:41 -0500
Received: from AspEmail [208.7.129.101] by mail.redcreek.net
  (SMTPD32-7.05) id ABDEC000268; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:13:34 -0500
From: Chris Sharman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Connelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLBA Online Information Request
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:13:07 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: 200201021413773.SM00303@AspEmail
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [208.7.129.3]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D59c9280.SMD
X-Note: Checked for SPAM and Viruses by Thumpernet - http://www.thumpernet.com


Thanks,
Andy Baldwin

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.thumpernet.com 
315-282-0020

Monday, December 31, 2001, 2:02:45 PM, you wrote:


I have 2 users that want to get all their spam.

I created a directory thumpernet.com
I created username.junkmail and put it in the thumpernet.com dir

Declude is still catching their spam

RSP If thumpernet.com is an alias for something else (IE mail.thumpernet.com is 
RSP the domain listed in IMail, with thumpernet.com as the alias), then you 
RSP would need to use a directory named mail.thumpernet.com (so the file would 
RSP be \IMail\Declude\mail.thumpernet.com\username.junkmail).
RSP  -Scott

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