[Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Robert Shubert
So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible with
and ready for Imail 2006. Is there any official word on support? Robert

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Matt
Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new release 
right after it is made available is asking for trouble.  I have seen 
several instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor 
changes made in IMail.  Some of these things didn't rear their heads 
until weeks or even months after the release as not everyone pays 
sufficient enough attention to catch some of the issues that occurred.  
It is always best to wait.


Another note on IMail 2006.  While they are making huge strides with the 
new Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient support 
for almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will 
probably want to wait until patches are made before even attempting the 
upgrade.  While many of us already realize this will be the case, I can 
almost certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail 
list after some time passes where admins are complaining about the lack 
of full Mac support.  IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appears 
that their plans are to release with it being Mac deficient and then 
subsequently go back and fix the incompatibilities.  Maybe they have 
changed their minds?  I still wouldn't touch it for at least a month.


Matt




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Tyler Jensen
Totally agree with you Matt but some feedback from Declude would be nice. I
know john T said a couple of weeks ago that Declude was working with a beta
2006 so how is that going Declude? 

Tyler

 

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Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new release
right after it is made available is asking for trouble.  I have seen several
instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor changes made in
IMail.  Some of these things didn't rear their heads until weeks or even
months after the release as not everyone pays sufficient enough attention to
catch some of the issues that occurred.  
It is always best to wait.

Another note on IMail 2006.  While they are making huge strides with the new
Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient support for
almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will probably
want to wait until patches are made before even attempting the upgrade.
While many of us already realize this will be the case, I can almost
certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail list after
some time passes where admins are complaining about the lack of full Mac
support.  IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appears that their plans
are to release with it being Mac deficient and then subsequently go back and
fix the incompatibilities.  Maybe they have changed their minds?  I still
wouldn't touch it for at least a month.

Matt




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So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Darin Cox
Regarding Mac, Ipswitch does have support for Firefox on Mac.

Darin.


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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?


Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new release 
right after it is made available is asking for trouble.  I have seen 
several instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor 
changes made in IMail.  Some of these things didn't rear their heads 
until weeks or even months after the release as not everyone pays 
sufficient enough attention to catch some of the issues that occurred.  
It is always best to wait.

Another note on IMail 2006.  While they are making huge strides with the 
new Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient support 
for almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will 
probably want to wait until patches are made before even attempting the 
upgrade.  While many of us already realize this will be the case, I can 
almost certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail 
list after some time passes where admins are complaining about the lack 
of full Mac support.  IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appears 
that their plans are to release with it being Mac deficient and then 
subsequently go back and fix the incompatibilities.  Maybe they have 
changed their minds?  I still wouldn't touch it for at least a month.

Matt




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So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible with
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Dean Lawrence
Darin, are you sure? In their documentation they explicitly state Windows only.

Firefox 1.0.6 for Microsoft Windows

Also, from what I read, you are going to have to use a singe ip for all webmail vs. the currentwebmail sharing the ip of each domain. Boy, this is going to be a juggling act to get all my domain users to change where they access their mail from.


Dean
On 11/29/05, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding Mac, Ipswitch does have support for Firefox on Mac.Darin.- Original Message -
From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new releaseright after it is made available is asking for trouble.I have seenseveral instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor
changes made in IMail.Some of these things didn't rear their headsuntil weeks or even months after the release as not everyone payssufficient enough attention to catch some of the issues that occurred.It is always best to wait.
Another note on IMail 2006.While they are making huge strides with thenew Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient supportfor almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will
probably want to wait until patches are made before even attempting theupgrade.While many of us already realize this will be the case, I canalmost certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail
list after some time passes where admins are complaining about the lackof full Mac support.IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appearsthat their plans are to release with it being Mac deficient and then
subsequently go back and fix the incompatibilities.Maybe they havechanged their minds?I still wouldn't touch it for at least a month.MattRobert Shubert wrote:So now I guess the big question is if Declude 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Eric Hebert
Well on the same overview,

We are still running 2.0.6 due to the fact that declude confirm has not
been integrated into the new release.
An other show stopper for us is the fact that the new web interface
support only english at the moment. Since many of our customers are
French talking, it's kind of odd to remove a feature we got for years...


Eric

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Shubert
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

All true. I'm probably about 45 days away from having the time to look
at
these upgrades, but while my iMail is up to date (8.21), I'm still
running
1.82 on Declude. I want to upgrade, since the latest version seems
stable,
as well as add virus checking, but I would really prefer to upgrade all
at
once just so I don't drag it out. An official post from Declude would go
a
long way. Especially with, as Matt noted, the number of issues in the
past
where iMail broke Declude.

Robert

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Jensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Totally agree with you Matt but some feedback from Declude would be
nice. I
know john T said a couple of weeks ago that Declude was working with a
beta
2006 so how is that going Declude? 

Tyler

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new release
right after it is made available is asking for trouble.  I have seen
several
instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor changes
made in
IMail.  Some of these things didn't rear their heads until weeks or even
months after the release as not everyone pays sufficient enough
attention to
catch some of the issues that occurred.  
It is always best to wait.

Another note on IMail 2006.  While they are making huge strides with the
new
Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient support for
almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will
probably
want to wait until patches are made before even attempting the upgrade.
While many of us already realize this will be the case, I can almost
certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail list
after
some time passes where admins are complaining about the lack of full Mac
support.  IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appears that their
plans
are to release with it being Mac deficient and then subsequently go back
and
fix the incompatibilities.  Maybe they have changed their minds?  I
still
wouldn't touch it for at least a month.

Matt




Robert Shubert wrote:

So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible 
with and ready for Imail 2006. Is there any official word on support? 
Robert

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Darin Cox



An Ipswitchdeveloperposted to the IMail 
list a couple of weeks ago that they had tested and it worked fine in Firefox on 
Mac. Safari and others browsers on Mac did not work at time of posting and 
would be added later.
Darin.


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From: Dean Lawrence 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Darin, are you sure? In their documentation they explicitly state Windows 
only.

"Firefox 1.0.6 for 
Microsoft Windows"

Also, from what I read, 
you are going to have to use a singe ip for all webmail vs. the 
currentwebmail sharing the ip of each domain. Boy, this is going to be a 
juggling act to get all my domain users to change where they access their mail 
from. 

Dean
On 11/29/05, Darin 
Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
Regarding 
  Mac, Ipswitch does have support for Firefox on 
  Mac.Darin.- Original Message - From: "Matt" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSent: 
  Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it 
  ready?Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally 
  new releaseright after it is made available is asking for 
  trouble.I have seenseveral instances over the years where 
  Declude had issues with minor changes made in IMail.Some of 
  these things didn't rear their headsuntil weeks or even months after the 
  release as not everyone payssufficient enough attention to catch some of 
  the issues that occurred.It is always best to wait. Another note 
  on IMail 2006.While they are making huge strides with thenew 
  Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient supportfor 
  almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will 
  probably want to wait until patches are made before even attempting 
  theupgrade.While many of us already realize this will be the 
  case, I canalmost certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the 
  IMail list after some time passes where admins are complaining about the 
  lackof full Mac support.IMail knows about the deficiency, but 
  it appearsthat their plans are to release with it being Mac deficient and 
  then subsequently go back and fix the incompatibilities.Maybe 
  they havechanged their minds?I still wouldn't touch it for at 
  least a month.MattRobert Shubert 
  wrote:So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible withand ready for 
  Imail 2006. Is there any official word on support? 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread Matt




Robert,

I suppose that hearing from them that everything is AOK would be
consoling to some extent, but that shouldn't change the fact that you
should wait. I don't expect that Declude will find but a small
percentage of the bugs on their own, and it will take users like us to
test and then help find any existing issues. Regardless of my own
advice, many around here will rush to upgrade and they will
subsequently start to report any issues that they find, and after it
gets quiet for a period of time, I will then consider upgrading.

FYI, 2.0.6.16 has been rock solid for me with IMail 8.15 HF2. I am
pretty close to jumping on 3.x but there isn't a lot of stuff in it
that I need at this point, so I am just holding out for a while
longer. I'm pretty sure that it would work fine, and that the bugs
that are present are probably no worse than the bugs that were fixed
since 2.0.6.16.

Matt




Robert Shubert wrote:

  All true. I'm probably about 45 days away from having the time to look at
these upgrades, but while my iMail is up to date (8.21), I'm still running
1.82 on Declude. I want to upgrade, since the latest version seems stable,
as well as add virus checking, but I would really prefer to upgrade all at
once just so I don't drag it out. An official post from Declude would go a
long way. Especially with, as Matt noted, the number of issues in the past
where iMail broke Declude.

Robert

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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Totally agree with you Matt but some feedback from Declude would be nice. I
know john T said a couple of weeks ago that Declude was working with a beta
2006 so how is that going Declude? 

Tyler

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new release
right after it is made available is asking for trouble.  I have seen several
instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor changes made in
IMail.  Some of these things didn't rear their heads until weeks or even
months after the release as not everyone pays sufficient enough attention to
catch some of the issues that occurred.  
It is always best to wait.

Another note on IMail 2006.  While they are making huge strides with the new
Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient support for
almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will probably
want to wait until patches are made before even attempting the upgrade.
While many of us already realize this will be the case, I can almost
certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail list after
some time passes where admins are complaining about the lack of full Mac
support.  IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appears that their plans
are to release with it being Mac deficient and then subsequently go back and
fix the incompatibilities.  Maybe they have changed their minds?  I still
wouldn't touch it for at least a month.

Matt




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So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread John T \(Lists\)
While I am willing to take the plunge today, I will be doing so as time
permits. I can do this as my server is low volume. I will let everyone know
when I do this.

John T
eServices For You

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

2005-11-29 Thread David Barker
I will have to ask the Developers and get some feedback. Will post when I
have something.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Totally agree with you Matt but some feedback from Declude would be nice. I
know john T said a couple of weeks ago that Declude was working with a beta
2006 so how is that going Declude? 

Tyler

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] is it ready?

Regardless of any word, anyone that jumps on board a totally new release
right after it is made available is asking for trouble.  I have seen several
instances over the years where Declude had issues with minor changes made in
IMail.  Some of these things didn't rear their heads until weeks or even
months after the release as not everyone pays sufficient enough attention to
catch some of the issues that occurred.  
It is always best to wait.

Another note on IMail 2006.  While they are making huge strides with the new
Web mail client, they reportedly currently lack sufficient support for
almost all Mac Web clients and therefore anyone with Mac users will probably
want to wait until patches are made before even attempting the upgrade.
While many of us already realize this will be the case, I can almost
certainly assure you that there will be an outcry on the IMail list after
some time passes where admins are complaining about the lack of full Mac
support.  IMail knows about the deficiency, but it appears that their plans
are to release with it being Mac deficient and then subsequently go back and
fix the incompatibilities.  Maybe they have changed their minds?  I still
wouldn't touch it for at least a month.

Matt




Robert Shubert wrote:

So now I guess the big question is if Declude 3.0.5.20 is compatible 
with and ready for Imail 2006. Is there any official word on support?
Robert

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[Declude.JunkMail] v1.32 (beta) ready

2002-01-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

We now have Declude JunkMail v1.32 available online.  It takes care of a 
couple of minor issues, and also changes the way that it starts external 
programs (smtp32.exe, scanners, etc.) which should help to eliminate the 
0xC142 DLL initialization problem ( http://www.declude.com/dq.htm ).
 -Scott

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