Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new feature

[Bill Landry]

That info is easy enough to parse from the current logs on a scheduled basis
using tools like grep, awk, cut, uniq, sort, etc.

Bill
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From: "Adam Hobach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:56 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] new feature


> Scott,
>
> I was wondering if it's possible to add a new feature to Junkmail which
> would generate a log file once an email reaches a certain weight. My
thought
> was that once an email reaches a certain weight it could be configured to
> use the variable strings already in use be Junkmail. See the example
below:
>
> global.cfg
>
> LOGREMOTEIP weightrange x x 10 19
> LOGSUBJECT weightrange x x 10 19
>
>
> junkmail file
>
> LOGREMOTEIP %REMOTEIP%
> LOGREMOTEIP %SUBJECT%
>
> The idea is to log each variable in a separate file and then use that info
> in the weight filter system.
>
>
> Thoughts???
>
> Adam
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[R. Scott Perry]

> For example, the E-mail that goes to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would appear in
> web messaging as a folder/mailbox "joe" when the user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> is logged in (and would be on the hard drive in a file like
> "IMail\users\spam\joe.mbx").



Maybe I'm missing something here Scott, but shouldn't it go to a spam folder
UNDER Joe? Not the other way around?


That's completely up to you.  :)

I believe the original request was that instead of all spam to @example.com 
going to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (a single account, that an administrator of 
@example.com has access to), it would go to a mailbox for the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user (the mailbox would be the name of the recipient of 
the E-mail).  So if a spam was sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", it would still go 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (that Joe doesn't have access to), but would end up in 
a mailbox named "joe".  That way, the local administrator could go to the 
"joe" folder in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account to quickly check Joe's spam.

You don't want Billy logging into SPAM and reading his, Joe's, etc spam do we?


Definitely not.

If you're looking for Billy and Joe to access their own spam, instead of 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (where spam goes to a mailbox in 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), you would want "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (where spam 
goes to the user's spam folder).

This can be accomplished now very easily, by using the MAILBOX action.  For 
example:

WEIGHT10MAILBOX spam

That line will move all E-mail failing the WEIGHT10 test to a user's "spam" 
folder.  That way both Billy and Joe can access their own spam, without 
having to both the adminstrator.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[paul]

Maybe I'm missing something here Scott, but shouldn't it go to a spam folder
UNDER Joe? Not the other way around? You don't want Billy logging into SPAM
and reading his, Joe's, etc spam do we?

Paul

> These are "IMail folders", which aren't subdirectories, so there is
nothing
> to create.
>
> For example, the E-mail that goes to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would appear
in
> web messaging as a folder/mailbox "joe" when the user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
is
> logged in (and would be on the hard drive in a file like
> "IMail\users\spam\joe.mbx").
>  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[David Lewis-Waller]

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20021105-DM01.htm :)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Uhte, Russ
Sent: 28 January 2003 17:26
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature


> It should be mentioned that Imail auto folder creatation
> within a users
> login is only available with Imail 7.1x. correct?

Is it possible to use a POP3 client (Specifically Netscape Mail) to view
these auto-created folders, or can they only be viewed via web and Imap?

-Russ


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[R. Scott Perry]

There's a new per-host security feature in IMail 7 that, if enabled, will 
bounce incoming messages if the sub-mailbox does not already exist -- it 
WILL NOT be created.  I've found several cases of sub-mailboxes that had 
never been accessed, and the user was checking his account only by client, 
so he couldn't have created it and obviously had no idea it even 
existed.  I assume they were created by spammers hitting a user account 
such [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message to a 
hyphenated variation of the username such as 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- a sub-mailbox named 
"joe" would be created under the account of "billy."  I do have the 
"bounce if sub-mailbox does not exist" option enabled.  Are you not aware 
of this, or does JunkMail/Declude have a way to work around it?

I believe that IMail would have to allow the folders to be created by 
Declude, but I will do some testing on that.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[Glenn \\ WCNet]

Yes, they can be accessed by POP3 client.  
Create a new account in the client, and set the POP3/Incoming Server Account 
Name as
user-submailbox  --  "billy-spam" for 
example, instead of "billy"
 
If it's a user on a virtual host (other than the 
default host), then set the full email address as the POP3 account -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
WebMail "sent" and "deleted" folders can be 
accessed by POP3 client using the same method.
 
G.Z.
 

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  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
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  feature
  > It should be mentioned that Imail auto folder creatation 
  > within a users> login is only available with Imail 7.1x. 
  correct?Is it possible to use a POP3 client (Specifically Netscape 
  Mail) to viewthese auto-created folders, or can they only be viewed via 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[Uhte, Russ]

> It should be mentioned that Imail auto folder creatation 
> within a users
> login is only available with Imail 7.1x. correct?

Is it possible to use a POP3 client (Specifically Netscape Mail) to view
these auto-created folders, or can they only be viewed via web and Imap?

-Russ


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[Glenn \\ WCNet]

There's a new per-host security feature in IMail 7 
that, if enabled, will bounce incoming messages if the sub-mailbox does not 
already exist -- it WILL NOT be created.  I've found several cases of 
sub-mailboxes that had never been accessed, and the user was checking his 
account only by client, so he couldn't have created it and obviously had no idea 
it even existed.  I assume they were created by spammers hitting a user 
account such [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a 
message to a hyphenated variation of the username such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 
a sub-mailbox named "joe" would be created under the account of 
"billy."  I do have the "bounce if sub-mailbox does not exist" option 
enabled.  Are you not aware of this, or does JunkMail/Declude have a way to 
work around it?
 
Glenn Z.
 
 

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  From: 
  R. Scott 
  Perry 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:58 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New 
  feature
  >One question, will the folder be 
  automatically created or would we have to>create a folder for each 
  user? And if we have to create each folder what>happens if the folder 
  is not there???These are "IMail folders", which aren't subdirectories, 
  so there is nothing to create.For example, the E-mail that goes to 
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would appear 
  in web messaging as a folder/mailbox "joe" when the user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is logged in (and 
  would be on the hard drive in a file like 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[R. Scott Perry]

It should be mentioned that Imail auto folder creatation within a users
login is only available with Imail 7.1x. correct?


I know that v6 versions of IMail would automatically create the mailboxes 
if they did already exist.
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[John Tolmachoff]

It should be mentioned that Imail auto folder creatation within a users
login is only available with Imail 7.1x. correct?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[David Lewis-Waller]

The example Scott quoted is a function of IMail rather than Declude.
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-JB04.htm KB demonstrates this
well.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Hobach
Sent: 28 January 2003 14:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature


Thanks Scott!!

One question, will the folder be automatically created or would we have
to create a folder for each user? And if we have to create each folder
what happens if the folder is not there???

Thanks...

Adam



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature



>Did you have any comments on this or is this not possible???

This will be available in the next release.  Instead of:

 WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you should be able to use:

 WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This will route the E-mail to the appropriate folder, based on the name
of the recipient.  For example, is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" gets spam, it would
get sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (the "joe" folder of the user
"spam").
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[R. Scott Perry]

One question, will the folder be automatically created or would we have to
create a folder for each user? And if we have to create each folder what
happens if the folder is not there???


These are "IMail folders", which aren't subdirectories, so there is nothing 
to create.

For example, the E-mail that goes to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would appear in 
web messaging as a folder/mailbox "joe" when the user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is 
logged in (and would be on the hard drive in a file like 
"IMail\users\spam\joe.mbx").
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[Grant Griffith]

IMail automatically creates the folder if it does not exist

Sincerely,
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:30 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature


Thanks Scott!!

One question, will the folder be automatically created or would we have to
create a folder for each user? And if we have to create each folder what
happens if the folder is not there???

Thanks...

Adam



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature



>Did you have any comments on this or is this not possible???

This will be available in the next release.  Instead of:

 WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you should be able to use:

 WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This will route the E-mail to the appropriate folder, based on the name of
the recipient.  For example, is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" gets spam, it would get
sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (the "joe" folder of the user "spam").
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[Adam Hobach]

Thanks Scott!!

One question, will the folder be automatically created or would we have to
create a folder for each user? And if we have to create each folder what
happens if the folder is not there???

Thanks...

Adam



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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature



>Did you have any comments on this or is this not possible???

This will be available in the next release.  Instead of:

 WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you should be able to use:

 WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This will route the E-mail to the appropriate folder, based on the name of
the recipient.  For example, is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" gets spam, it would get
sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (the "joe" folder of the user "spam").
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[R. Scott Perry]

Did you have any comments on this or is this not possible???


This will be available in the next release.  Instead of:

WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you should be able to use:

WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This will route the E-mail to the appropriate folder, based on the name of 
the recipient.  For example, is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" gets spam, it would get 
sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (the "joe" folder of the user "spam").
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[Adam Hobach]

Scott,

Did you have any comments on this or is this not possible???

Sorry to be a pain...

Adam


Adam Hobach
CyberLynk Sales/Support
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature


Scott,

I have a new feature request:

This would be for the ROUTETO action, to have the emails moved to individual
folders for each users email address. This way when we use the ROUTETO
command instead of having all the emails in the main mailbox and not knowing
who they were addressed to without opening, we could go into the individual
folders for each user.

My thought on the ROUTETO folder Action would be:

WEIGHT1 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]username

This would be in the junkmail file, where the USERNAME would grab the part
of the email address before the @ sign and direct it to a folder.

Thoughts???


Adam




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature

[John Tolmachoff]

Sounds very interesting as an option.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Hobach
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I have a new feature request:
> 
> This would be for the ROUTETO action, to have the emails moved to
individual
> folders for each users email address. This way when we use the ROUTETO
> command instead of having all the emails in the main mailbox and not
knowing
> who they were addressed to without opening, we could go into the
individual
> folders for each user.
> 
> My thought on the ROUTETO folder Action would be:
> 
> WEIGHT1   ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]username
> 
> This would be in the junkmail file, where the USERNAME would grab the part
> of the email address before the @ sign and direct it to a folder.
> 
> Thoughts???
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Adam Hobach
> CyberLynk Sales/Support
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ADDITIONAL CYBERLYNK SERVICES
> 
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> provide home dialup connections for your employees.
> You would get a login/password to our website
> where you can add/modify dialup accounts as you
> please.
> 
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