[Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi all,

As I can see the new owners of Declude has some people able to develope
dynamic websites and there is already a customer protected area.

Now the suggestion:
As there are out many different maintainers of excelent filter files and
much more different versions and methods to get this filter updated on the
own system. Why not create the possibility for declude customers to manage
certain filter files in this protected area and publish it there for other
customers?

So only customers could access the resources and there is one centralized
point and one methodology to get this updates.

For example:
If someone has a great list of spamdomains he could become the responsible
of this list (maybe also a group of maintainers) and maintain different
SD-lists. He can place a short description of what each filter can/cannot do
and what are eventual drawbacks.

Another list could contain known sources of legit mailing lists or bulkmail
like

REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.66.0/24 Yahoo Groups
REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.67.0/24 Yahoo Groups
REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.68.0/24 Yahoo Groups
REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.69.0/24 Yahoo Groups

Other examples:
-Phishing filter
-AV filter
-header phrases for known MTA's failing CMDSPACE (for counterweight)

With some phantasy the developer of this backoffice could introduce a lot of
nice features. Maintainers can place usefull notes sorted by date. Users can
write comments and report problems with certain configuations. 

There shouldn't be hundreds of different lists but some few very usefull and
allways up-to-date filter files.

I believe this would be a very good tool and a great enhancement and plus
point for a declude service agreement.


Markus


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] This one got through.....

2004-10-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

Any idea why this message (here's the header) was delivered to the 
user.   I have WEIGHT10  WEIGHT20 set to HOLD and it
seems to be working great otherwise.
The reason is:
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 28 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 28 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.
You have WEIGHT10 and WEIGHT20 set to WARN.
I'm guessing that this is an outgoing E-mail (IMail counts gateway E-mail 
as outgoing E-mail), in which case the outgoing actions are used (from the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file).

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread Don Schreiner
Declude Folks,

I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To address
is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these are coming back to
me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in the body of the
e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting rejected. Anyone
else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail automatically to
his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an e-mail that was
attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent to our client
(lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his AOL account.
Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor Sniffer
to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I should do to
eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on the wrong side of
AOL. Thanks.

-Don

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Subject: Proposal
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:03:21 -0500
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Dear Customer,
=20
Be the very first listing in the top search engines immediately.
=20
Our company will now place any business with a qualified website
permanently=
 at the top of the major search engines guaranteed never to move.  This
prom=
otion includes unlimited traffic and is not going to last long.  If you
are=20=
interested in being guaranteed first position in the top search engines at
a=
 promotional fee, please contact us promptly to find out if you qualify
via=20=
email at   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   AND INCLUDE THE URL(s) YOUR ARE INTERESTED
I=
N PLACING.  This is not pay per click.=20

The following are examples on Yahoo!, MSN and Alta Vista:
=20
Company:  Oahu Dive Center
URL:   http://oahudivecenter.com
keyword:   oahu scuba diving
=20
Company:  California Moves.com
URL:   http://steph.cbsocal.com
keyword:   find a home southern california
=20
Sincerely,
=20
IGN
The Search Engine Promotional Consultants


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] This one got through.....

2004-10-06 Thread Gary Brumm
Scott,
This was an incoming message and you are absolutely correct.  I rechecked 
their config file.
I had them set up with a per domain configuration and I missed changing 
WARN to HOLD on this one.  I now have
a template for the new domain specific configurations so I don't make this 
mistake again.  When I asked this domains
users how the spam was yesterday this was the only message they sent to me 
so I assumed it had slipped through.

Thanks,
Gary
At 03:47 AM 10/6/2004, you wrote:
Any idea why this message (here's the header) was delivered to the 
user.   I have WEIGHT10  WEIGHT20 set to HOLD and it
seems to be working great otherwise.
The reason is:
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 28 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 28 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.
You have WEIGHT10 and WEIGHT20 set to WARN.
I'm guessing that this is an outgoing E-mail (IMail counts gateway E-mail 
as outgoing E-mail), in which case the outgoing actions are used (from the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Some one at your company signed up and registered to receive these feedback
loop messages.

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/tools/fbl.html

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 Declude Folks,
 
 I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To
address
 is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these are coming back
to
 me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in the body of the
 e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting rejected. Anyone
 else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail automatically to
 his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an e-mail that was
 attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent to our client
 (lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
 vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his AOL account.
 Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor
Sniffer
 to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I should do to
 eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on the wrong side
of
 AOL. Thanks.
 
 -Don
 
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 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
 
 Dear Customer,
 =20
 Be the very first listing in the top search engines immediately.
 =20
 Our company will now place any business with a qualified website
 permanently=
  at the top of the major search engines guaranteed never to move.  This
 prom=
 otion includes unlimited traffic and is not going to last long.  If you
 are=20=
 interested in being guaranteed first position in the top search engines at
 a=
  promotional fee, please contact us promptly to find out if you qualify
 via=20=
 email at   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   AND INCLUDE THE URL(s) YOUR ARE INTERESTED
 I=
 N PLACING.  This is not pay per click.=20
 
 The following are examples on Yahoo!, MSN and Alta Vista:
 =20
 Company:  Oahu Dive Center
 URL:   http://oahudivecenter.com
 keyword:   oahu scuba diving
 =20
 Company:  California Moves.com
 URL:   http://steph.cbsocal.com
 keyword:   find a home southern california
 =20
 Sincerely,
 =20
 IGN
 The Search Engine Promotional Consultants
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread Don Schreiner
Kami   John,

Thanks a ton guys! That was me that registered on the AOL feedback loop
using our abuse addy, but going back months ago and did not realize. So much
to keep up with battling Spam! Just a few more points on my Declude weight
and would not have made it to AOL - ohhh well - will keep tweaking our
config.

-Don

- Original Message - 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL


Some one at your company signed up and registered to receive these feedback
loop messages.

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/tools/fbl.html

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

 Declude Folks,

 I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To
address
 is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these are coming back
to
 me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in the body of the
 e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting rejected. Anyone
 else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail automatically to
 his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an e-mail that was
 attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent to our client
 (lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
 vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his AOL account.
 Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor
Sniffer
 to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I should do to
 eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on the wrong side
of
 AOL. Thanks.

 -Don

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 Dear Customer,
 =20
 Be the very first listing in the top search engines immediately.
 =20
 Our company will now place any business with a qualified website
 permanently=
  at the top of the major search engines guaranteed never to move.  This
 prom=
 otion includes unlimited traffic and is not going to last long.  If you
 are=20=
 interested in being guaranteed first position in the top search engines at
 a=
  promotional fee, please contact us promptly to find out if you qualify
 via=20=
 email at   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   AND INCLUDE THE URL(s) YOUR ARE INTERESTED
 I=
 N PLACING.  This is not pay per click.=20

 The following are examples on Yahoo!, MSN and Alta Vista:
 =20
 Company:  Oahu Dive Center
 URL:   http://oahudivecenter.com
 keyword:   oahu scuba diving
 =20
 Company:  California Moves.com
 URL:   http://steph.cbsocal.com
 keyword:   find a home southern california
 =20
 Sincerely,
 =20
 IGN
 The Search Engine Promotional Consultants


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread support
Essentially someone received an email in their AOL acount and marked it as 
SPAM.   Since you setup a feedback loop with AOL they will now send you 
every instance of an email that was reported as SPAM by one of their 
members. 

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and Log 
Parsers. 

Don Schreiner writes: 

Declude Folks, 

I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To address
is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these are coming back to
me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in the body of the
e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting rejected. Anyone
else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail automatically to
his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an e-mail that was
attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent to our client
(lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his AOL account.
Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor Sniffer
to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I should do to
eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on the wrong side of
AOL. Thanks. 

-Don 

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Dear Customer,
=20
Be the very first listing in the top search engines immediately.
=20
Our company will now place any business with a qualified website
permanently=
 at the top of the major search engines guaranteed never to move.  This
prom=
otion includes unlimited traffic and is not going to last long.  If you
are=20=
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread Steve Flook
On this note, what are other's policy on forwarding client's addresses
to AOL accounts?  We signed up with this feedback loop program quite
some time and realized that 95% of the reported spam's where coming
from forwarded messages to AOL accounts.  In the event of forwarded
messages, our IMail box takes the blame instead of the original MTA.

I have considered creating a policy of not allowing mail forwarding to
AOL accounts for fear of getting blacklisted from AOL.

Steve 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 Kami   John,
 
 Thanks a ton guys! That was me that registered on the AOL 
 feedback loop using our abuse addy, but going back months ago 
 and did not realize. So much to keep up with battling Spam! 
 Just a few more points on my Declude weight and would not 
 have made it to AOL - ohhh well - will keep tweaking our config.
 
 -Don
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:31 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 
 Some one at your company signed up and registered to receive 
 these feedback
 loop messages.
 
 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/tools/fbl.html
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
  Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:09 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
  Declude Folks,
 
  I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To
 address
  is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these 
 are coming back
 to
  me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in 
 the body of the
  e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting 
 rejected. Anyone
  else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail 
 automatically to
  his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an 
 e-mail that was
  attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent 
 to our client
  (lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
  vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his 
 AOL account.
  Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor
 Sniffer
  to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I 
 should do to
  eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on 
 the wrong side
 of
  AOL. Thanks.
 
  -Don
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What I do if the message is legit is forward that notice to the sender and
recipient explaining the AOL report spam button to please take care of this
issue or forwarding messages to AOL addresses will be banned.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Flook
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:43 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 On this note, what are other's policy on forwarding client's addresses
 to AOL accounts?  We signed up with this feedback loop program quite
 some time and realized that 95% of the reported spam's where coming
 from forwarded messages to AOL accounts.  In the event of forwarded
 messages, our IMail box takes the blame instead of the original MTA.
 
 I have considered creating a policy of not allowing mail forwarding to
 AOL accounts for fear of getting blacklisted from AOL.
 
 Steve
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
  Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
  Kami   John,
 
  Thanks a ton guys! That was me that registered on the AOL
  feedback loop using our abuse addy, but going back months ago
  and did not realize. So much to keep up with battling Spam!
  Just a few more points on my Declude weight and would not
  have made it to AOL - ohhh well - will keep tweaking our config.
 
  -Don
 
  - Original Message -
  From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:31 AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 
  Some one at your company signed up and registered to receive
  these feedback
  loop messages.
 
  http://postmaster.info.aol.com/tools/fbl.html
 
  John Tolmachoff
  Engineer/Consultant/Owner
  eServices For You
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
   Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:09 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
  
   Declude Folks,
  
   I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To
  address
   is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these
  are coming back
  to
   me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in
  the body of the
   e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting
  rejected. Anyone
   else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail
  automatically to
   his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an
  e-mail that was
   attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent
  to our client
   (lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
   vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his
  AOL account.
   Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor
  Sniffer
   to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I
  should do to
   eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on
  the wrong side
  of
   AOL. Thanks.
  
   -Don
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

2004-10-06 Thread Don Schreiner
Good question and I am curious too. We actually have a no-forwarding
e-mail policy and not just to AOL. But... sometimes the customer
dictates what they want or will go elsewhere and we then allow on a
case-by-case basis. If we allowed for every customer I bet we would be
blacklisted already. I am still fearful AOL may blacklist on what little
traffic we do have getting forwarded. Thanks.

-Don

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Flook
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL

On this note, what are other's policy on forwarding client's addresses
to AOL accounts?  We signed up with this feedback loop program quite
some time and realized that 95% of the reported spam's where coming
from forwarded messages to AOL accounts.  In the event of forwarded
messages, our IMail box takes the blame instead of the original MTA.

I have considered creating a policy of not allowing mail forwarding to
AOL accounts for fear of getting blacklisted from AOL.

Steve 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 Kami   John,
 
 Thanks a ton guys! That was me that registered on the AOL 
 feedback loop using our abuse addy, but going back months ago 
 and did not realize. So much to keep up with battling Spam! 
 Just a few more points on my Declude weight and would not 
 have made it to AOL - ohhh well - will keep tweaking our config.
 
 -Don
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:31 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
 
 Some one at your company signed up and registered to receive 
 these feedback
 loop messages.
 
 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/tools/fbl.html
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
  Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:09 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Client TOS Notifications from AOL
 
  Declude Folks,
 
  I need some help figuring out why we are receiving e-mails from
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Line: Client TOS Notification, and the Sent To
 address
  is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure if these 
 are coming back
 to
  me in our abuse or postmaster account? There is nothing in 
 the body of the
  e-mail, only an attachment of e-mail apparently getting 
 rejected. Anyone
  else seeing these? The client we host forwards his e-mail 
 automatically to
  his AOL account. For example, below is the header of an 
 e-mail that was
  attached whereas a spam e-amail appears to have been sent 
 to our client
  (lamphier.com) hosted on our IMail server (sneezy.xerocom.net -
  vacant.spiderhost.com is router) which was forwarded to his 
 AOL account.
  Unfortunately it did not weight enough under our Declude config, nor
 Sniffer
  to get held as Spam. Any ideas what AOL is doing or what I 
 should do to
  eliminate these most appreciated. Worried about getting on 
 the wrong side
 of
  AOL. Thanks.
 
  -Don
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Richard Farris
Has anyone ever seen this list and tried using it in their blacklist file?
http://www.joewein.de/sw/blacklist.htm#bl
Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
- Original Message - 
From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:20 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion


Hi all,
As I can see the new owners of Declude has some people able to develope
dynamic websites and there is already a customer protected area.
Now the suggestion:
As there are out many different maintainers of excelent filter files and
much more different versions and methods to get this filter updated on the
own system. Why not create the possibility for declude customers to manage
certain filter files in this protected area and publish it there for other
customers?
So only customers could access the resources and there is one centralized
point and one methodology to get this updates.
For example:
If someone has a great list of spamdomains he could become the responsible
of this list (maybe also a group of maintainers) and maintain different
SD-lists. He can place a short description of what each filter can/cannot 
do
and what are eventual drawbacks.

Another list could contain known sources of legit mailing lists or 
bulkmail
like

REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.66.0/24 Yahoo Groups
REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.67.0/24 Yahoo Groups
REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.68.0/24 Yahoo Groups
REMOTEIP -80 CIDR 66.218.69.0/24 Yahoo Groups
Other examples:
-Phishing filter
-AV filter
-header phrases for known MTA's failing CMDSPACE (for counterweight)
With some phantasy the developer of this backoffice could introduce a lot 
of
nice features. Maintainers can place usefull notes sorted by date. Users 
can
write comments and report problems with certain configuations.

There shouldn't be hundreds of different lists but some few very usefull 
and
allways up-to-date filter files.

I believe this would be a very good tool and a great enhancement and plus
point for a declude service agreement.
Markus
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Has anyone ever seen this list and tried using it in their blacklist file?

 http://www.joewein.de/sw/blacklist.htm#bl

Joe's data is included in the URIBL_JP_SURBL list, along with data from
Prolocation.  Their data is very accurate, and thus can be scored higher
than some of the other SURBL lists.

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Richard Farris
So is URIBL_JP_SURBL supposed to be in our Global file..because I dont have 
it..

Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion


- Original Message - 
From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Has anyone ever seen this list and tried using it in their blacklist 
file?

http://www.joewein.de/sw/blacklist.htm#bl
Joe's data is included in the URIBL_JP_SURBL list, along with data from
Prolocation.  Their data is very accurate, and thus can be scored higher
than some of the other SURBL lists.
Bill
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[Declude.JunkMail] Burst a message before processing (?)

2004-10-06 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Not sure if this is an iMail (SMTP) or Declude question (or possibly
WAMCHECK).

We've notice that messages with multiple To,  Cc and Bcc recipients are
all whitelisted if the first addressee whitelists -- the whitelisting
coming from WAMCHECK.

Is there a way to have a message 'burst' into multiple copies (?) before
processing by Declude?  Can Declude do this?  If not any ideas as to how?


TIA,
Rod
-- 
Roderick A. Anderson
Technology Services Management Group
http://www.technologyservicesmanagementgroup.com/
Spokane WA, 99202
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 So is URIBL_JP_SURBL supposed to be in our Global file..because I dont
have
 it..

No, Declude does not support SURBL lists yet.  I use them with SpamAssassin.
However, others here download the SURBL lists and use them in body filters
with Declude JunkMail.  I wouldn't do that though, since body filtering is
so processor intensive and the SURBL lists are getting rather large.

Hopefully Declude will build in SURBL support in a near-term further
release, as they are a great spam fighting tool.  In the mean time, you can
always setup a Linux mail gateway and use SpamAssassin, or use the Win32
version of SpamAssassin with DJM (see Sandy Whiteman's e-mail signature).

Bill

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 So is URIBL_JP_SURBL supposed to be in our Global file..because I dont have 
 it..

URIBL_JP_SURBL   is   the   default  name  of  the  SpamAssassin  rule
corresponding  to  Joe's  zone.  AFAIK,  it's  the  only zone directly
provided by SURBL that is _not_ activated by default in SA 3.0.

I  am  a  non-fan  of  the  SURBL zone transfer to humonguous Declude
filter  file  concept and would not suggest this route unless you are
taking positive steps to measure and regulate CPU utilization.

SURBL  support  is  far  less intensive in SpamAssassin, and SA can be
integrated  easily  with  Declude  once it's up and running. If you do
decide  to essay the SA installation, you can add URIBL_JP_SURBL to SA
like so:

urirhssub URIBL_JP_SURBL  multi.surbl.org.A   64
headerURIBL_JP_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_JP_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_JP_SURBL  Contains a URL listed in JP at 
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflagsURIBL_JP_SURBL  net

--Sandy




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Burst a message before processing (?)

2004-10-06 Thread Matt
You would need a gateway that splits the messages prior to being 
received by IMail.  I'm not aware of any systems running on Windows that 
could do this on the same box, so you would likely need a new box with a 
flavor of Linux or BSD.  This can add significant processing overhead if 
you don't validate addresses at the gateway while being dictionary 
attacked.  We get a massive number of messages from such attacks on just 
a handful of our domains.

If you simply want to whitelist all stuff going to a particular address, 
you should use Declude Pro and a per-user config that is empty or has no 
actions.  I think that should work as desired.

If the whitelisting isn't for a particular local account, you should 
also research a setting in Declude that allows for turning off 
whitelisting when a weight reaches a certain amount.  This is used for 
situations where one user is whitelisted and other users are getting the 
same message.  It isn't perfect as far as protecting the other 
addresses, and it will delete a significant amount of the E-mail to the 
whitelisted address, though stuff that scores very high (according to 
your settings), but it is a way around the issue.  You can search the 
documentation for BYPASSWHITELIST and that should show you what to do.

Matt

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Not sure if this is an iMail (SMTP) or Declude question (or possibly
WAMCHECK).
We've notice that messages with multiple To,  Cc and Bcc recipients are
all whitelisted if the first addressee whitelists -- the whitelisting
coming from WAMCHECK.
Is there a way to have a message 'burst' into multiple copies (?) before
processing by Declude?  Can Declude do this?  If not any ideas as to how?
TIA,
Rod
 

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 In  the mean time, you can always setup a Linux mail gateway and use
 SpamAssassin, or use the Win32 version of SpamAssassin with DJM (see
 Sandy Whiteman's e-mail signature).

Or  both!  You  can  run  the  SPAMD  daemon on any platform, but have
SPAMC32  query  it from Declude Junkmail. Running SPAMD elsewhere will
eliminate all the local RegEx resource utilization, and having SPAMC32
run  within  Declude should save you local resources vs. searching for
SpamAssassin  header tags on every Declude pass. SPAMC32 also lets you
assign  different  weights  to  different  SPAMD  rulesets  (different
daemons) and more.

[  Don't  worry,  I'll  cool  off the cheerleading the moment a lot of
SPAMC32 support posts come in. :) ]

--Sandy



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http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter file maintenance suggestion

2004-10-06 Thread Keith Johnson
Sanford,
   What type of CPU overhead do you experience with running SA/SPAMD with Declude? 
 I saw the tech doc and it mentioned that it takes up 20MB of memory for each config 
file load in serial.  Are you aware of anyone running this on machines pulling over 
200K emails each day?
 
Thanks for the aid.  
 
Keith  

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 In  the mean time, you can always setup a Linux mail gateway and use
 SpamAssassin, or use the Win32 version of SpamAssassin with DJM (see
 Sandy Whiteman's e-mail signature).

Or  both!  You  can  run  the  SPAMD  daemon on any platform, but have
SPAMC32  query  it from Declude Junkmail. Running SPAMD elsewhere will
eliminate all the local RegEx resource utilization, and having SPAMC32
run  within  Declude should save you local resources vs. searching for
SpamAssassin  header tags on every Declude pass. SPAMC32 also lets you
assign  different  weights  to  different  SPAMD  rulesets  (different
daemons) and more.

[  Don't  worry,  I'll  cool  off the cheerleading the moment a lot of
SPAMC32 support posts come in. :) ]

--Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
  http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/

Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases!
  
http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/
  
http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/

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