RE: Delphi XE4 Future
Thanks for the link to Google+ Still lurking around this list... Regards, Ken -- Chief Technolator Akadamia -Original Message- From: delphi-talk-boun...@elists.org [mailto:delphi-talk-boun...@elists.org] On Behalf Of François Piette Sent: 29 April 2013 11:31 To: 'Delphi-Talk Discussion List' Subject: RE: Delphi XE4 Future I think it is unfortunate that the Delphi community (and Free Pascal community) is so fractured today. There used to be much online activity - so much that people started many different forums to accommodate it all. Now there are many inactive forums almost all of which are sparsely used. Even the Embarcadero forums have very little traffic. I wish we could consolidate into a few places that are very active again. There are such a few places! Mailing lists and traditional news groups are fading. Social media are gaining audience. 1) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=101829 5500 members today 2) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1290947 4045 members right now 3) https://plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754 1620 members as per today The Google Plus group is growing fast. It will probably outperform LinkedIn groups in a few months. Since the beginning of 2013, Google+ has much more interesting traffic than LinkedIn. And most peoples are part of all 3 groups. Regards, -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
Re: Delphi XE4 Future
It is great to see you guys are still monitoring this forum, XE4 is starting to become something to work with. Firemonkey has a long way to go before it achieves the stability we know in the VLC. I pull my hair out sometimes working with the things but slowly it seems to be coming together. I'm not opposed to learning new languages but find myself not using Delphi as much as I used to now that web applications have become my primary focus and I am using PHP. XE4 is probably a good place to start , avoiding the frustrations from XE2. Simple things like copy and paste were not working in the Firemonkey GUI. XE4 is definitely something to look at if you want to make good mobile apps, it seems they have focused a lot on iPhone and iPad deployment and I must say it is easy to get a hello world system going, I'm not sure about the real world apps, but it is worth playing with on a trial version to test it. You will need a Mac computer to run the debugging environment. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Cameron Cole came...@cameroncole.comwrote: Google+ and StackOverflow seem to be the places I check frequently. Not sure there will really ever be one place but the Delphi community has always been a bit chaotic and isolated so it is fitting in a way. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Doug Chamberlin chamberlin.d...@gmail.comwrote: I don't consider these places as active. The linkedin groups average about one post every week. Don't know about the google community. You make my point for me: There are multiple groups on linkedin when there do not need to be! On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:31 AM, François Piette francois.pie...@skynet.bewrote: I think it is unfortunate that the Delphi community (and Free Pascal community) is so fractured today. There used to be much online activity - so much that people started many different forums to accommodate it all. Now there are many inactive forums almost all of which are sparsely used. Even the Embarcadero forums have very little traffic. I wish we could consolidate into a few places that are very active again. There are such a few places! Mailing lists and traditional news groups are fading. Social media are gaining audience. 1) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=101829 5500 members today 2) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1290947 4045 members right now 3) https://plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754 1620 members as per today The Google Plus group is growing fast. It will probably outperform LinkedIn groups in a few months. Since the beginning of 2013, Google+ has much more interesting traffic than LinkedIn. And most peoples are part of all 3 groups. Regards, -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk -- http://spiceware.co.za __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
Re: Delphi XE4 Future
Google+ and StackOverflow seem to be the places I check frequently. Not sure there will really ever be one place but the Delphi community has always been a bit chaotic and isolated so it is fitting in a way. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Doug Chamberlin chamberlin.d...@gmail.comwrote: I don't consider these places as active. The linkedin groups average about one post every week. Don't know about the google community. You make my point for me: There are multiple groups on linkedin when there do not need to be! On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:31 AM, François Piette francois.pie...@skynet.bewrote: I think it is unfortunate that the Delphi community (and Free Pascal community) is so fractured today. There used to be much online activity - so much that people started many different forums to accommodate it all. Now there are many inactive forums almost all of which are sparsely used. Even the Embarcadero forums have very little traffic. I wish we could consolidate into a few places that are very active again. There are such a few places! Mailing lists and traditional news groups are fading. Social media are gaining audience. 1) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=101829 5500 members today 2) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1290947 4045 members right now 3) https://plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754 1620 members as per today The Google Plus group is growing fast. It will probably outperform LinkedIn groups in a few months. Since the beginning of 2013, Google+ has much more interesting traffic than LinkedIn. And most peoples are part of all 3 groups. Regards, -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
RE: Delphi XE4 Future
I think it is unfortunate that the Delphi community (and Free Pascal community) is so fractured today. There used to be much online activity - so much that people started many different forums to accommodate it all. Now there are many inactive forums almost all of which are sparsely used. Even the Embarcadero forums have very little traffic. I wish we could consolidate into a few places that are very active again. There are such a few places! Mailing lists and traditional news groups are fading. Social media are gaining audience. 1) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=101829 5500 members today 2) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1290947 4045 members right now 3) https://plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754 1620 members as per today The Google Plus group is growing fast. It will probably outperform LinkedIn groups in a few months. Since the beginning of 2013, Google+ has much more interesting traffic than LinkedIn. And most peoples are part of all 3 groups. Regards, -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
Re: Delphi XE4 Future
I as well. On 4/27/2013 12:50 PM, Cameron Cole wrote: Yep me too. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Rory Daulton rorydaul...@email.com wrote: I'm not really sure who is monitoring the posts on Delphi-Talk I am :-) So am I! Rory Daulton rorydaul...@email.com __** Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-**talkhttp://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
RE: Delphi XE4 Future
There are seven of us doing PC software development and I'm the only one with Delphi experience. Everyone does VB.NET and a little C# so the last standing Delphi application gets converted to VB.NET or C# once the Windows 8 Crusade (making sure all of our applications work in Win 8) is over the first lull occurs. Hopefully the lull doesn't occur for some time. My SCADA system in Delphi is long gone and several other small single purpose applications are all but forgotten. One of these days the company will get beyond Windows, but not now. Fred Stein Senior Computer Programmer Basler Electric Company 12570 State Route 143 Highland, IL 62249-1074 United States Phone: +1 618 654 2341 Ext. 387 Fax: +1 618 654 2351 Email: mailto:fredst...@basler.com www.basler.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may include confidential and/or legally protected information and is intended solely for the use of its intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it (including any attachments) from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply e-mail. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it would be received, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the e-mail is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Basler Electric Company for any damage or loss arising from its use. -Original Message- From: delphi-talk-boun...@elists.org [mailto:delphi-talk-boun...@elists.org] On Behalf Of François Piette Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:04 AM To: 'Delphi-Talk Discussion List' Subject: RE: Delphi XE4 Future My one remaining Delphi 6 project remains but will eventually get .NETized. Why ? -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
RE: Delphi XE4 Future
Mailing lists and traditional news groups are fading. Social media are gaining audience. 1) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=101829 5500 members today 2) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1290947 4045 members right now 3) https://plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754 1620 members as per today The Google Plus group is growing fast. It will probably outperform LinkedIn groups in a few months. Since the beginning of 2013, Google+ has much more interesting traffic than LinkedIn. And most peoples are part of all 3 groups. I don't consider these places as active. The linkedin groups average about one post every week. Don't know about the google community. Google Plus group has a lot of activity. Something like 10 new message threads and some theads have themselves tens of messages per day. I'm not moderator so I don't know exactly. Just give it a try for a few days and you'll see by yourself. Here's the link again: https://plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754 You make my point for me: There are multiple groups on linkedin when there do not need to be! I agree, but everyone is trying to drive traffic form himself and create a group for that purpose. -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
RE: Delphi XE4 Future
One of these days the company will get beyond Windows, but not now. Let the management know that today Delphi XE4 is cross platform: Windows, MAC and iOS. Soon Androïd. And of course for .NET, you have Oxygene (aka Delphi Prism). -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
RE: Delphi XE4 Future
I'm not really sure who is monitoring the posts on Delphi-Talk I am :-) -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be Embarcadero MVP http://www.overbyte.be http://francois-piette.blogspot.com __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
Re: Delphi XE4 Future
Hi Everyone It seems that Delphi (pascal) is having a revival, I heard that Embacadero are supplying free licensing to educational institutions in our country South Africa and that they have a hand in the curriculum for computer science as from next year. I'm not really sure who is monitoring the posts on Delphi-Talk but here goes, anyone have any thoughts about my optimism. It would be good to hear who is still taking part in this email list. Yours sincerely Andre van Zuydam -- http://spiceware.co.za __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
Re: Delphi XE4 Future
Yes, Embarcadero is developing Delphi steadily. It will soon become the premier system for developing cross platform apps. Hopefully they will tackle Linux in a sustainable way soon. The language is not likely to re-take its previous position in education, though. Too much tunnel vision and other bias in that sector. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Andre van Zuydam an...@spiceware.co.zawrote: Hi Everyone It seems that Delphi (pascal) is having a revival, I heard that Embacadero are supplying free licensing to educational institutions in our country South Africa and that they have a hand in the curriculum for computer science as from next year. I'm not really sure who is monitoring the posts on Delphi-Talk but here goes, anyone have any thoughts about my optimism. It would be good to hear who is still taking part in this email list. Yours sincerely Andre van Zuydam -- http://spiceware.co.za __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __ Delphi-Talk mailing list - Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
