[libreoffice-design] New Color Picker
Hello! I saw a new color picker in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.4 → New Color Selector. I think we need to improve it before it goes live. Does somebody have Krisztian Pinter e-mail or is somebody willing (able) to change it themselves? For first we need to give more consistent look for it: 1. same size tiles for recent and palette colors; 2. changing white background to dialog background color; 3. using icon for color picker etc. But overall it is great that somebody changed it. Our old proposals: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_Picker Best regards, Hillar aka Medieval (I have not been very active lately, is design mailing list still alive?) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Color Picker : Tentative Design
Hi, I think you should integrate Automatic+Old+New into one row. It will take less space. Hillar (Medieval) 2013/3/17 Kévin PEIGNOT peignot.ke...@kpeignot.fr Hi All I just uploaded the first version of the tentative design of the Color Picker, with Themes support, and updated the wiki [1]. Actually, this is what we called during IRC chat the Tablet version, with 9x9mm separated by 2mm. I will make the desktop version (if useful, not convinced this design couldn't fit well for a desktop), once this one is almost okay for everyone. Actually, I see at least one problem with this design : * In Custom Color view, with the Palette tab, the popover seems too high for little screens. I think we can remove Recents colors part of this view, as it's already present in the Theme colors one, but I wanted your thoughts. So : what do you think of this two points ? (using Tablet version on desktop and removing Recent colors from Custom color view). What other things would you like to change in this design ? Kévin [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_Picker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [libreoffice-design]Altering the template manager to act as a start center
Hi, Definitely we should add integration with our internet template manager [1] and searching templates from there + automated downloading. [1] http://templates.libreoffice.org/ Hillar 2013/3/6 Emir Yâsin SARI bitig...@me.com I have created a basic mock-up of how would it look. http://imgur.com/vNmP5HJ Any feedback is welcome. Best regards, Emir 6 Mar 2013 tarihinde 21:03 saatinde, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos şunları yazdı: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Emir Yâsin SARI bitig...@me.com wrote: Considering that current start center lacks the functionality of showing recent document previews, and uses pretty much excess screen space (in most cases users mostly maximise the start center window), I thought it would be a cool idea to tweak the new template manager with the functionality of being able to show previews of recent documents, some basic marketing stuff like a small LO logo and implement it as the new start center. I think that’s a great idea, Emir, +1. LibreOffice really needs to use that wasted space better, moving away from a static, non-responsive background image. -- Adolfo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Porting Symphony's graphic elements to LO?
Hi, About palette: Currently I don't see a point there, because color management is going to be changed in near future ( or as plans are). I hope it includes gradients too. Hillar 2013/2/20 Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.com Hey guys! What are you thinking about porting gradients (or even more graphic elements like gallery or color palette) from Symphony to LibreOffice? Symphony has pretty ones and all bitmaps has been moved to AOO 4 yet. Look at this gradients: http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.png It shouldn't be licensing problem because TDF made similar movement with code in the past. I have a sensation that Symphony is visually much prettier than LO in general so I think It would be best If foundation could replace old by new such as it's in AOO 4 now. Of course others mustn't agree with me so another idea is just add new elements and leave both of them. There is discussion about mixing AOO and Symphony color palette. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox/%3C50D2EC5B.2040507%40me.com%3E What is yours opinion? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] UI and Branding proposals
Hi all, I want to ask your opinion about 2 topics: 1. *UI (toolbar area) * I have reading a lot of reviews and comments about LO 4. And reached to conclusion that a lot of peaople are complaining about LibreOffice UI (look). *What we can to do change it for better?* *Windows* looks OK. *Linux: *I personally think it look OK on ubuntu with native themes [1]. I don't like it when the background of toolbars have gradients [2]. My proposal would be to draw bgcolor to whole toolbar are, no gradients (if possible then gradient progressing more dark to bottom). All linux themes will look something like ubuntu looks now [1] with offcourse different colors. [1] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pS8YMNyG7W4/UCJrUdK8yJI/JeM/VdyhX515tdw/s1600/libreoffice-3.6_2.png [2] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6-mXiDkG4v4/T9idPE5xGrI/JG8/9uf3YPqq3hc/s1600/libreoffice-3.6.0.png *OSX*: I am not user of it and can't tell much. But it should have mac native toolbar background (greyish one not that whitish it have now) [3] http://screenshots.en.sftcdn.net/en/scrn/241000/241525/libreoffice-28.png 1. *Branding proposals* The deadline for voting was February 9th, 2013, 16:00 UTC. I think we should take 3 proposals with highest votes and make new quick vote choosing between them. 3 proposals with highest votes are: Proposal by Alexander Wilms (original PNG), Proposal 2 (Green) by Maxim Darák and Proposal 1 (White) by Maxim Darák. What do you think about it? - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGS28t6YMF3dHFrTm9hMzZVNk9hNEZMN0NSbV9ZbXc#gid=0 - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding Hillar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice 4.0 airport ad source
Hi, For some time ago I made something for own use. : ubuntuone.com/p/Zmf/ I am not sure about quality. Hillar 2013/2/8 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Hi Issa, Le 2013-02-08 09:51, Issa Alkurtass a écrit : Hello world, Here's the .xcf file for the airport ad on the default page, should be useful if anyone wanted to translate it (needs Vegur font) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lo4-airport-ad.zip I know it's a bit late but I wasn't using the FOSS format at first and then I had trouble uploading it to the wiki. ___ Regards, Issa Alkurtass BTW ... vegur font can be found on our Design Branding Guidelines wiki page[1]. There are download links there. Also, unless I am mistaken, it may not support all languages ... maybe someone from design could chime in on this? Cheers, Marc [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Fonts -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Roadmap
Hi, Isn't it great if we had something called like roadmap? This is great way to show people what we are plannin, what we are working and what are our goals in future. What is roadmap? Roadmap is basicly a list where we hold our workitems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_roadmap (not best description what I have on my mind) There is something called Analyses and Whiteboards but not as creatly summarized. Idea came because other teams really don't know what we are up to. It will give other teams better ide what we are doing... Great example. http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/shotwell/roadmap Missing categories (like call for proposals, looking for developers, under development etc). Ideas? And we need better voting system and earlier end dates - no need this happening again. Just an idea, Cheers, Medieval -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize
Hi, I put together current votes for 4.0 branding. (it's very unofficial format) I hope people will look for their votes and correct my mistakes. Kévin PEIGNOT please upload your votes again didn't quite well understand and not included on spreadsheets. Feel free to add your votes, everyone can edit this file: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGS28t6YMF3dHFrTm9hMzZVNk9hNEZMN0NSbV9ZbXc .ods table: http://ubuntuone.com/5Cinr5KV5vU2VAggDIhej9 Proposal are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding Cheers, Medieval -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Another UI mockup
Hello, If I am not mistaking then this is his deviantart profile: http://marianogaudix.deviantart.com/ Hillar aka Medieval 2012/12/5 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Thanks a lot Alex. Do we have his email address? It's a shame for him to spend his efforts in a way no one can benefit from... Best, Charles. Le 5 déc. 2012 01:10, Alexander Wilms alexander.wi...@zoho.com a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Charles, As far as I remember, he posted to the design mailing list quite some time ago asking whether we would want to use it. I and Astron (IIRC) replied that he should rather ask on the dev mailing list, since I did not know whether it was some sort of wrapper and because I don't know how VCL works. I doubt he's subscribed to the mailing list, at least we didn't her from him since. Kind Regards Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQvoxfAAoJECO1/tAiWGrNhgwIAM8sIDr3P6TeLXgA3lUmqdBz Cx5CTVbdemFLUlfv0eaeH3ah3qLLa/GqG7Lk2A12jPfr586qtPT5skRFmPhO15O+ Ig1rUDU9SBdjMyJv1+AEtVr+HejVl7L4gJl/2U4H29J9SqQpAtYM0hVjDXWZj655 CfZxnEEa3690JCu7D+FRzj9oZpqPjaX1PhCB2dAYRwnsxggLz/7Tm2tQCgVhwYjl niX/8hla5JfpJWqrvN3at2OwMRQ2WRtORjzQyG8pxB9r8PSK4q32qy/qqfo9bBjI 7q+ZYtqcXju33311EJb32JjyxyHtYL45QkZFH43KCby4PZwojCXyRmLaKaFK1Rc= =w9lx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New gallery art
Hello, Is the gallery supporting(loading) only the .gif formats? If so I think first thing to do is start supporting .png and .svg file formats? Hillar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Complete redesign of the interface!
hello, Google Docs link don't work for me. Can you please upload it to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ You need to make account to there and then in left menu is upload file. Or log in and then go to link http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Upload Hillar 2011/6/19 Budislav Stepanov budo345li...@gmail.com Thanks, https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B9ybC3iXpbVBNDI2YWM3NTAtOGQ5ZC00MGM0LThkMDEtNWM4ZDc1ZjE0YzA4hl=en_US On 19 June 2011 00:54, Kévin PEIGNOT winniemie...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2011 00:47, Budislav Stepanov wrote: How to send a screenshot? On 19 June 2011 00:10, Kévin PEIGNOT winniemie...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2011 00:02, Budislav Stepanov wrote: I've created a new interface design, according to which the office should look like in the future. If someone has a better suggestion let it set, so let's be clear, the new interface is required. Sorry for bad English. If you joined a screenshot with the mail, you must know that they are rejected automatically on the mailing list ;) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Post it on an external file storage website (Gdocs, ubuntu one, wiki...) and give us a direct link ;) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Regards, Budislav -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New Design and experience
Hello, Here is one interesting concept: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/' http://clickortap.wordpress.com/category/mockups/ Hillar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX
Hi, Some mockups: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/msg01239.html MS Office 2008: http://img.skitch.com/20071014-b85qcwy28rw32d69qjpy8yhtyx.jpg Ans so on... And people if you are bashing ribbon then please tell us how much experience you have with it (saw pictures, used it, used it one month and ...). Hillar 2011/5/24 jlopez777 jlopez...@gmail.com On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 May 2011 at 9:57, Christopher Stark wrote: Hi, as I mentioned earlier, the main argument against ribbons is that in M$ Office the user has to click on ribbons/tabs all the time and never knows if the required functions hide behind Review, Insert or Design... My annoyance with ribbons is: - In MSO 2003 / LibO, I can easily see the things I expect to be in the top toolbar - font information and so on. If I perform certain other functions (e.g. tables), another floating toolbar appears. - In MSO 2007/10, going into tables causes a big menu all about tables to obscure the things I want to see on the menu, with a lot of options I am not one bit interested in. Also, the buttons are SO inconsistent - different sizes, some have text and some do not, etc. In fact, the Ribbon reminds me of 'modern art'. It's a piece of junk and if anyone else designed it, commentators would call it junk. But because Microsoft say it is 'good', lots of people who should know better agree with them. The MSO ribbon is crap. While I love Open Source and LibO, I would either stay on LibO 3.3 forever, or go to WordPerfect if LibO mimicked that horrible interface. All this makes working with the current solution in my opinion much more efficient than with ribbons Absolutely. If I wanted stupid ribbons cluttering the place, I would be using MSO. I'm not using it because the interface stinks. OTOH, if someone developed an implementation of ribbons that was so good, and showed that the idea is fine and that MS have simply done a bad job of developing it, that would be another matter. In another email, Sveinn í Felli suggests an optional vertical toolbar - possibly a far more sensible option, especially as so many people have wide screens nowadays. What would be the best way to look into this? Getting some mock ups? Even if it becomes an extension of some sort not default. I would really like to explore this idea. Any help or direction would be appreciated. ZF. -- Zaphod -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Joed Lopez -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] some backgrounds for libreoffice
Hi, Where are these located? Attachments? Can you please upload these to The Document Foundation wiki or somewhere else. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page This mailing-list don't allow attachments. Hillar 2011/4/5 gael.lori...@laposte.net gael.lori...@laposte.net Hello to all of you. Please find attached some presentation backgrounds I've been making and using in my presentation. Some are better than others, you might want to start checking out LightWave or colorUnite first. all backgrounds fit the General Template category. Please check if I've licenced properly my work. I hope my contribution will be usefull to you. See you, Gaël -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] some backgrounds for libreoffice
Is it possible to add .otp and if something more missing to allowed list uploads list? Hillar 2011/4/5 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi all, for me, the link works well - it opens the wiki page that allows to download the recent (in this case: only) version. Cheers, Christoph Am Dienstag, den 05.04.2011, 16:42 -0400 schrieb Vamsi Kodali: Gael, that link does not work! On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, gael.lori...@laposte.net wrote: Hi again, it's here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:PresentationBackgrounds.zip -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: File Types (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] some backgrounds for libreoffice)
I was refering to wiki. .otp (the impress template) is not allowed there. I can't upload my templates. Hillar 2011/4/6 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi Hillar! Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2011, 00:14 +0300 schrieb Hillar Liiv: Is it possible to add .otp and if something more missing to allowed list uploads list? Sorry, maybe I don't understand your question ... do you refer to the wiki, or to the mailing lists? The wiki tells me: Preferred file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, ogg, ogv, oga, pdf, odb, odg, odp, ods, odt, ott, oxt, mp3, zip, tar.gz, tgz, svg, docx, doc, dot, xlsx, xls, xlt, pptx, ppt, mdb, svgz. Prohibited file types: html, htm, js, jsb, mhtml, mht, xhtml, xht, php, phtml, php3, php4, php5, phps, shtml, jhtml, pl, py, cgi, exe, scr, dll, msi, vbs, bat, com, pif, cmd, vxd, cpl. The mailing lists don't allow attachments in general - they are simply removed (exception: developer list). There are good reasons to behave like that, but also some that adds a bit pain on the user's side ... therefore I proposed a service to deal with that. Have a look, if you like: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOffice_Mail_Attachment_Service Cheers, Christoph Hillar 2011/4/5 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi all, for me, the link works well - it opens the wiki page that allows to download the recent (in this case: only) version. Cheers, Christoph Am Dienstag, den 05.04.2011, 16:42 -0400 schrieb Vamsi Kodali: Gael, that link does not work! On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, gael.lori...@laposte.net wrote: Hi again, it's here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:PresentationBackgrounds.zip -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [PATCH] color charts
Hi, Screenshot: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo_charts.png Hillar 2011/3/26 Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at Hi Erich, all, Erich Christian schrieb: Hi Rob, Am 26.03.2011 00:58, schrieb Rob Snelders: I was asked to email a screenshot of my patch for the color charts to this maillist. I have attached a screenshot. This is the screen-shot of the color-chats, that can be found in the options-sceen (Tools-Options). What I have added are the Add- and Remove-buttons, to add and remove a color chart. When adding it will add a black color chart with the number 1 higher as the last one created. When removing it will remove the selected item or when none is selected it will remove the last. Please add me in this conversation because I'm not in this mailinglist. You'll have to subscribe yourself, just send a plain mail to design+subscr...@libreoffice.org or to the address mentioned below for further options. Requested by me Hillar sent a mail asking for more information to Rob, a developer of a new feature I didn't understood when he posted his patch to the developer list. I don't think that every developer has to subscribe to this list, even if this would be great ;-) Perhaps Rob can follow this thread via one of our repositories like Nabble, Mail-Archive.com [1] or Gmane, but in such cases of developer/designer interaction I don't see a better solution than to add the developer manually to CC. [1]: Here the link to Robs Mail from the header: http://go.mail-archive.com/209qRskZC_EAQmvTj4QLeoE3ejM= This list does not allow email attachments, upload it to a webspace or to the Wiki instead and post the link here. The missing attachment is a problem hopefully to be solved with the attachment storage Christoph asked for at the website list - and it seems that there is some work done in this area. For the moment I hope that Hillar will upload the screenshot he got (as he was CC'd by Rob) to a place we all can look at (probably our wiki). When I moderated the mail, I wasn't shown the attachment, otherwise I had uploaded it myself. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] [UX] patch for color charts - contact needed
Hi. I sended a message to him. I think it's time to change the color charts system overall. Something like this if possible: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Newpalette.png Hillar 2011/3/24 Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at Hi all, I try to act as link between the developer list and design team in order to raise your attention for UX related work by the developers. Due to the number of patches on the developer list I'd like to see others from our team to be attentive too. Right now I noticed a mail over there: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-March/009577.html Subject: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Adding and Removing Color Charts Rob Snelders Thu Mar 24 13:37:00 PDT 2011 Hi I have created a patch that enables users to add and remove Color Charts. -- Greetings, Rob Snelders The patch is attached as the next message in the archive. Would anybody be interested to contact Rob and the dev list to ask for some more information (screenshot?) about this feature? Even if this team member is not a UX expert, providing this list with information about UX related work would reduce the workload of our experts and help the developer to get more and earlier feedback (most likely just a great, an improvement from UX view, go ahead!) from UX. I think we definitively need to do UX support to the developers earlier and tell them if there are pitfalls they don't think of but might affect our user's experience. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Scatter brained?
Hi, You can try to do something like these: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/b/b9/ScatterInContext_horizon.jpg http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/b/b3/ScatterInContext_bunch.jpg But then you need to ask original files. Hillar 2011/3/23 drew d...@baseanswers.com Hi, Scatter is it? Alright gave it a whirl (ha ha). I took this piece: http://lo-portal.us/temp/Post-card-generic_c.pdf Then tried to apply the scatter motif: http://lo-portal.us/temp/Post-card-generic_c_scatter.pdf Am I on the same page with you guys on this? Do you want the scatter pattern always on the left? Anyway - just thought I'd put this up for some feedback. Thanks much for all the work on this, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: More general stuff - Please no ribbons/tabs!
Hey, If no ribbons and toolbar solution as it is now are not solutions, then what is? http://t6uni.deviantart.com/art/OOo-mockup-181260508 or http://pauloup.deviantart.com/gallery/28216273#/d37dxdr Whats wrong with these solutions? Table/Graphic bar can appear when clicking certain object. It's better when the toolbars allways take same space and don't resize if you click to different thing / different toolbar appears. That's why ribbon is good. Hillar 2011/3/10 Christopher Stark christopherst...@gmx.de Oh no, please no such ribbons like in M$EUR Office!! In my opinion the best solution is already implemented in LibreOffice and should be improved: * The menu bar with main functionality always stays in the same position * If I click into a table the table-bar appears * If I click on a graphic the graphic-bar appears * If I click into a bullet-point list the bullet-point-bar appears This is way more effective than the M$-variant where the user has to click on ribbons/tabs all the time and never knows if the required function hides behind Review, Insert or Design... Regards Christopher Am 10.03.2011 07:34, schrieb Hillar Liiv: Hello, Where is going LibreOffice? I think it is pointless to argue now about shadow or whatever. First thing whta we need to do is to make future design of LibreOffice, one and only mockup, where developers can look how it should look alike and then take their decisions. And I think that should be our next goal. What point it is to make 2 or 4 sided shadow now if we don't know where LibreOffice is going. Some mockup/design examples: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance/Design_Proposals_for_%E2%80%9CAccessing_Functionality%E2%80%9D#Design_Proposals_Submitted http://pauloup.deviantart.com/gallery/28216273 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/libre_office_ribbon_mockup_by_usrnametaken-d375abm.png http://t6uni.deviantart.com/art/OOo-mockup-181260508 Other examples: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Selection_0212.png http://www.vistax64.com/attachments/vista-news/13041d1243273201-office-2010-technical-preview-screenshots-win7-7127.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMD9QCiMtgfeature=player_embedded If we don't do this, then it is taking much more time developers to make things work. (And a lot of people have told me that they don't use OpenOffice/LibreOffice beacuase they don't like how it looks.) Thanks, Hillar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: More general stuff
Hello, Where is going LibreOffice? I think it is pointless to argue now about shadow or whatever. First thing whta we need to do is to make future design of LibreOffice, one and only mockup, where developers can look how it should look alike and then take their decisions. And I think that should be our next goal. What point it is to make 2 or 4 sided shadow now if we don't know where LibreOffice is going. Some mockup/design examples: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance/Design_Proposals_for_%E2%80%9CAccessing_Functionality%E2%80%9D#Design_Proposals_Submitted http://pauloup.deviantart.com/gallery/28216273 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/libre_office_ribbon_mockup_by_usrnametaken-d375abm.png http://t6uni.deviantart.com/art/OOo-mockup-181260508 Other examples: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Selection_0212.png http://www.vistax64.com/attachments/vista-news/13041d1243273201-office-2010-technical-preview-screenshots-win7-7127.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMD9QCiMtgfeature=player_embedded If we don't do this, then it is taking much more time developers to make things work. (And a lot of people have told me that they don't use OpenOffice/LibreOffice beacuase they don't like how it looks.) Thanks, Hillar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout
Hi, I have made some mockup to show how different shadows look alike: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Docshadows.png Which looks best? With startup style shadow: http://ubuntuone.com/p/S53/ Hillar 2011/3/4 Daniel Merker daniel.mer...@wayne.edu Hi, Just a thought. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the background be the primary color of that application. For example, the Writer would have a blue tinted background with a shadow (I like the shadow on all sides), and Impress would have an organge tinted background with the same shadow around the slide. This should help tie in the color theme and help build on a general motif. -Daniel Merker -Original Message- From: Sébastien Le Ray [mailto:sebast...@orniz.org] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:01 PM To: design@libreoffice.org Cc: jaronba...@gmail.com; Andrew Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:44:21 -0500, Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi all, I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion. I would like to instead propose a different approach but perhaps from a coding perspective it would not be an easy hack. There was discussion over the years on the OOo list about changing the background from the dull gray to something more upbeat. Perhaps the 'shadow' could be integrated into a new customization feature that allows the user to change the background and the shadow. Unfortunately, I can't recall how difficult this is... (I seem to recall some large problem in the code that made this difficult, but it may have been an issue). Cheers, Jaron On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Andrew rugby...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/11 07:42, Sébastien Le Ray wrote: Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:35:11 +0100, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com a écrit : Hi Sébastien, hi all! Hi Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 14:16 +0100 schrieb Sébastien Le Ray: Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:59:19 +, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com a écrit : [...] Although I didn't see it yet, thanks for your work - I'm really looking forward. You can find a screenshot on http://misc.orniz.org/libreoffice/lo-shadow.png book mode is also handled nicely... [...] However, I'd like to provide some pointers to the Notes stuff - it's really worth spending some time digging through some of the descriptions (in my point-of-view). I think this is better than pre-process most of the stuff, since I'm unaware of your likings :-) The notes main wiki page (Notes2 because of the CWS that time): http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2 Here are the links to the detailed designs that had (sometimes) to be adapted due to technical constraints nobody spent the time for: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2#Status_and_Propos als And once finished with the default stuff, we have lots of further ideas: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_OtherIdeas Personally, I've already spend over one year with the Notes project being the UX representative, so I'd like to work with you on that - if you like :-) I'll be pleased to :) It'd be nice to have a UI tasks on libreoffice wiki presenting all tasks that are ready on a Design point of view but that have not yet been implemented. There is a lot of stuff on the Note2 wiki page, could you give priorities on various items? [...] If you are generally interested in working on Usability / Visual Design topics (of course, from the developer's point-of-view - and we really need some understanding and support here), feel invited to subscribe to the Design Team mailing list - some more information can be found here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design Subscribed yesterday :-) It seems that you've been busy with more marketting stuff that UI design lately to cover the launch of LO, FOSDEM and funraising Waiting for you priorities mockups on notes work :-) Sébastien Hi All and Sebastien :) Regarding that patch, I think that what we have in that screenshot is a definite improvement, but I feel we could do better, and hopefully without a lot more work. If you look at the mockup I attached to the bug report, I feel this looks a lot more modern and professional. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=39920 Pretty interesting... I first implemented the 4 borders shadow but every people I show it said it's strange, the shadow should be only under two borders. I feel if instead of having that shadow aligned to the bottom left, instead it is centred on the page, and we have a slightly larger blur radius we can make it look a lot better.
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LibreOffice official color names
Hi, One thing about palette: it should use one color 10 different modes, not 8. Then its better to use, compare: 1. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/1b/Rpalette.png(some libreoffice colors with 10 different color mods, with little mods) 2. 8 color mods: http://ubuntuone.com/p/aFj/ very unbalanced. Hillar 2011/3/5 Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at Hi Christoph, just a short note on the names... Christoph Noack schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all! Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2011, 23:00 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: [...] In the LibO case, I'd go for adding Libre - you take? (+1/-1/0) Therefore I vote with +1. But I'd prefer LibreGreen 1 over Libre Green 1, because without the space LibreGreen is a name, while in Libre Green libre can be understood as descriptive adjective. True, but removing the whitespace makes it less readable ... I don't think this is an important issue, as it should be a descriptive name rather than a color accompanied by a leading adjective and a following number. We decided to call our product LibreOffice, even if Google finds more Libre Office than LibreOffice, this seems to be quite similar. I think it is inconsistent and a neglected marketing chance, if we add a space between Libre and the color. But I'm not an UX-expert, so I have to believe you that people will not be able to understand LibreGreen as easy as Libre Green. originally, we had this kind of naming, but since we added more colors, it became an issue to me - when I've created the palettes for LibreOffice and Inkscape. http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/united-colors-of-liberty.html Looking at these colors, I find out, that I like the previous color names better than the present ones: Orange is not really orange - Marron has been more exact. Yellow is not yellow at all - Ocher might be the right description. To be consistent, we should use LibreGreen Accent instead of Green Accent - OpenGrok shows the latter. OpenGrok is okay, since I asked for that name when it got integrated ;-) But the other colors seems to have been integrated with Libre - did you do this on purpose? http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/extras/extras/source/palettes/libreoffice.soc The Inkscape palette I use doesn't contain any Libre, so they are different. But in future all the palettes (LibO, Inkscape, GIMP) will use the same naming... :-) [...] 2. The gray shades are missing in the table - these are not necessarily part of the official branding palette, but very helpful when working on documents (rationale: changing palettes in LibO is still time consuming, so the basic colors should be included). I think we should define two grey values as LibreGrey (or LibreGray). One should be the grey tone of the lighter part in the greyscale logo. As it is the equivalent to LibreGreen (as official LibO color LibreGreen 1 might be called this way IMHO), I'd call it LibreGrey 1. The name Green 1 has some historic reasons, since - originally - it was the darkest green. The Green 0 was some mysterious workaround to keep the name, since it already had been used extensively. Thus, the number marks the intensity of the color. To provide additional information, I've used the Comment section in the spreadsheet table. If you look at the Inkscape palette, hover the LibreGreen 1 item and Inkscape will show LibreGreen 1 (LibreOffice Main Color). Here it shows Green 1 (LibreOffice Main Color). We should use this feature for the official grey too. So for such kind of information, I propose to keep this kind of naming scheme.[...] If we include the basic colors in the palette, more grey values are as important as the main colors. True, that's what I've suggested - the LibreOffice color palette available in the wiki does feature all these gray values; equally to the Inkscape palette. I've been wondering, if we should add plain colors (red, green, blue, yellow, orange, violet) to the LibO palette too, because they might be used for marking etc. We don't have red at all... But on the other hand they don't fit with the LibreOffice colors, so I'd avoid such a mixture. What do you think? I'll add the source code at the end of the mail - for easier reference. [...] I don't know if a break is allowed in an .soc file, if so, I'd add one behind the first entry: This would lead to better readability, as every definition is shown in it's own line. And didn't you vote for adding Libre? (Even if you want to keep it as single word...) If we agree on the dark grey , I'd like to add (LibreOffice Color) or LibreGrey 1 (or something similar) to the name. And one more point: While the default UI language is English (USA) the standard color palette as well as your proposal use the British English spelling Gray instead of Grey. Best regards Bernhard === LibreOffice_Initial-Branding-Colors.soc === ooo:color-table
Re: [libreoffice-design] Vegur font
Sorry, I didn't know it. Otf: http://ubuntuone.com/p/Zmf/ Sfd: http://ubuntuone.com/p/Zmk/ Hillar 2011/1/24 Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz Hi Hillar, On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Hillar Liiv liivhil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am sending the latest version. I don't work with light version any more, I ported it to medium and I have been working with it. Could you please upload it to the wiki [1] or some other place online (and send us the link) as the mailing list does not allow attachments? Thanks, Ivan. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-design] Vegur font
Hello! If You want Vegur be default font then we need to make missing characters. I made some of them (included light version only), these needs to be reviewed. Some important characters are not done yet. Is somebody else working with Vegur? Who is author of original Vegur font? Hillar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
