[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
not sure what you mean, this dialog is not displayed on hardy so what wording do you suggest changing if the bug stays open? -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
It's still a bug in 7.10, my friend. -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Well, I guess that's one way to dispose of a bug. So for Hardy, the warning was just removed altogether (probably due to the change to gvfs), the now invalid shortcut in Nautilus is visible but unaccessible, and the eight-month-old bug is marked invalid. It's a new low in bug fixing. -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
So giving the wrong directions isn't important enough to update? Heads up -- the translations are already broken because they don't jibe, either. -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
right, but it's not important enough to justify a stable update and changing the wording would break all the translations there -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
this bug got only one duplicate in the gutsy cycle which means there is not a lot of user demand for the change, it doesn't qualify for a stable upload for the moment no -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
OK. After sticking with Ubuntu since 4.10, this lack of interest has driven me to Debian so I won't care what you fix after tomorrow. -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
alright, you are free to use any distribution you want and maybe debian will fix this issue for you -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
that's not a nautilus issue and the corresponding dialog needs to be update for the gvfs changes ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: Jacob Torrey (ranok) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Daeng, you're welcome to submit a patch for it ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Pedro, Jacob (the assignee) already submitted patches, but it remains unfixed. I'll be happy to get a .po and patch it, too, though. Looking at lines 5364-5376 of /usr/share/locale- langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/nautilus.mo, both admonitions to use both eject and unmount are already there. So what, then ... HAL isn't reporting the correct type of drive or the correctly reported drive isn't referenced to the right message? -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
What's the status on this? The bug is easy to fix. New users remain unable to follow the directions given when unsafely removing a USB drive. I believe you can only unsafely remove an external drive, not a CD (you must software eject that), so changing the Unsafe removal, please use eject to Unsafe removal, please use unmount should be sufficient to fix the problem. There's no need to be concerned with what will happen if a use unsafely removes a CD, so you don't need to use the word eject anywhere in the warning. -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
ahem ... as an expert (started off in Yggrasil) I got to this point and froze, clicked bug report and fortunately found this page. To us experts unmount means remove from the mount table and in previous versions of linux hotplugging, this could prevent all future auto- mounting of the device. So I was highly reluctant to accept unmount and eject as synonyms, convinced instead that there must be some other place somewhere on the gui where the 'eject' would live. I couldn't find one, so I headed here. Why not call it what it is: Sync -- that's all it does, it just syncs the filesystems, and even non-technical people will understand that it only means to synchronize the device with any in-process transfers. Why hide it behind some inappropriate metaphor? Just because Microsoft does it that way? ;) I think Sync with a pop-over message that says finish all transfers would not only tell the users what the button does, but also imply an explanation as to why ignoring this step is a really bad idea :) -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
when you want to change a DVD you probably don't want to sync it though but to use eject -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Thank you for your bug. Eject or Unmount are not the same action and the one use depends of the device selected. A CDROM will have Eject listed ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
I completely understand that, having worked with Linux for ten years, but: #1) No one else who just started using Ubuntu knows that #2) The warning that a USB drive was unsafely removed tells the user to use Eject whiile the context menu uses Unmount. The directions are impossible to follow. This must be changed. It looks to the casual user like no one who makes the system actually cares about attention to detail. Do you want that image? -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Nobody is questionning the wording could be better, it's not trivial to change though. The actions are differents and used not only in nautilus, to make the use coherent somewhere should probably note where eject and unmount are used and start a discussing about how that could make easier to understand for users -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
How about using neither Eject nor Unmount and changing the word to something more general like Remove ??? -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9252269/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9252270/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9252271/ProcStatus.txt -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Thanks for your bug report, this is something that might confuse novice users, so thanks for pointing it out. Sincerely, Jacob Torrey ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Jacob Torrey Status: New = Confirmed -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Actually, it WAS brought up by a novice user who had to ask me for help removing a USB drive. When I told her what to do, she said in the most sarcastic tone she could muster, Oh, that's logical! Why the *** did they name it that? -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
I went through the Nautilus localization for both en_GB and en_CA and changed the msgstr from _Unmount to _Eject for both under the tree-view. I left the msguid alone, thinking that that would mess things up. This patch is probably not helpful, but if you have any advice for future reference, I'd be happy to hear it. Sincerely, Jacob Torrey ** Attachment added: Replaces the _Unmount string with _Eject http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9253151/en_CA.patch -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 139084] Re: Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount
Here is the GB version ** Attachment added: Replaces the _Unmount string with _Eject http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9253152/en_GB.patch -- Unsafe removal of drives says to Eject while context menu says Unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139084 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
