Re: RSS engine
hehehe...I know, I'm such an addict. I constantly have to know what is happening in the world. Whether its the stock market, sports, weather, or the latest Obama story :) Having your head stuck in books most of the time kind of puts you inside your own little bubble. IMO, I think it would be cool to see things, such as the ones listed above, flashing across the screen without me having to even touch the computer...all while saving my screen. I'm contemplating applying for the Google Summer of Code. So, this may be an idea I use for a proposal. We'll see... ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: RSS engine
Op woensdag 28-01-2009 om 10:38 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Neil Loknath: On the screensavers running while nobody is paying attention, our household constantly has two laptops running in the living room. If they are not in use, they are probably running a photo screensaver. In addition, I always have my computer running while I'm studying a book. IMO, it would be great if a screensaver could display news, weather, scores, stock quotes, etc... Might get a little distracting when I'm studying, however. :) To me, this sounds more like you need gnome-power-manager instead of an RSS feed screensaver. ;-) -- Reinout van Schouwen ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: RSS engine
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:26 -0500, Neil wrote: The ideal, I think, would be if GNOME already had an engine/API that could be used for RSS content. I did read somewhere that WebKit could be the answer to this. Is that true? If not, would it be crazy to look at developing some kind of simple framework for developing RSS content? There's also a GObject-based RSS parser [1] that could help with your project. I never used it myself, but it looks quite nice. [1] http://github.com/chergert/rss-glib/wikis Cheers, Cosimo ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: RSS engine
2009-01-28 klockan 10:23 skrev Cosimo Cecchi: On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:26 -0500, Neil wrote: The ideal, I think, would be if GNOME already had an engine/API that could be used for RSS content. I did read somewhere that WebKit could be the answer to this. Is that true? If not, would it be crazy to look at developing some kind of simple framework for developing RSS content? There's also a GObject-based RSS parser [1] that could help with your project. I never used it myself, but it looks quite nice. [1] http://github.com/chergert/rss-glib/wikis Without having looked at that project at all, I'm 99% sure that the Universal Feed Parser from feedparser.org is better for parsing random feeds from the web. Syndication formats are a simple concept and not too hard to generate if you know what you're doing, but they are *hard* to parse since there is so much invalid crap out there in the wild. Feed Parser goes through great pains trying to extract data from malformed feeds, and it does so by applying many (hacky) heuristics. That said, rss-glib is probably useful if you want to integrate RSS functionality to handle reasonably well-formed feeds into your GLib application. — Wouter (yes, I have quite some experience with this) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: RSS engine
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 10:23 +0100, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: There's also a GObject-based RSS parser [1] that could help with your project. I never used it myself, but it looks quite nice. [1] http://github.com/chergert/rss-glib/wikis As someone who tried using rss-glib before, the problem with it is that it is a wrapper around libmrss which fails to parse Atom correctly. Planet feeds contain multiple links but libmrss simply takes the first (or was it last, I can't recall) link, which isn't at all useful. feedparser ftw. It does mean using Python, but it is an excellent feed parser. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: r...@burtonini.com jabber: r...@burtonini.com www: http://burtonini.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: RSS engine
As for no one paying attention ... I have photos as my home computer screen saver. My kids and guests often wander into the office, sit down and hang out looking at them! I'm sure RSS feeds might not have the same draw for my kids but for the right audience ... I'd just make sure there was someway to click on a news item on the screen saver to get more info. Or to get more info on the last thing shown. Stormy On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.orgwrote: 2009/1/28 Neil damonkie...@hotmail.com: I had the idea of writing an intelligent screensaver that would read data from RSS feeds, pretty up the data, and display it on the screen at certain intervals. The screensaver could go beyond simply using user defined subscriptions for the data. It could decide what news to load based on the user's current location, time of day, music stored on the system, music currently being played, applications currently open, recent search engine queries, etc, etc... The thing is, it seems rather redundant to write all the RSS management tasks into the screensaver. There are a variety of feeders available. But, it would also not be the greatest thing for the screensaver to depend on a feeder. You might be looking for this: http://www.feedparser.org/ Having said that, Microsoft did a very similar thing called Channels back in the days. And they dropped the idea as soon as it became apparent screensavers only run when you're not paying any attention to your computer so no one will ever read the news ;) -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: RSS engine
Thank you everyone for your comments and suggestions. I really have not put too much thought into details or feasibility at this point. School occupies a lot of my time right now, but this might make for an interesting summer project for me. On the screensavers running while nobody is paying attention, our household constantly has two laptops running in the living room. If they are not in use, they are probably running a photo screensaver. In addition, I always have my computer running while I'm studying a book. IMO, it would be great if a screensaver could display news, weather, scores, stock quotes, etc... Might get a little distracting when I'm studying, however. :) For another specific example, I spent a few years living in a downtown condo. Almost everyone else I knew that lived downtown had a computer in a den (more like a nook). A lot of people play music from the computer while they cook, eat, etc. I think having customized news scrolling across the screen in this scenario would be useful as well. Of course, with that being said, the text would have to be large enough to be read from at least a few feet away. Or, at least the headlines. Anyway, I will put more thought into this in the coming months. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
RSS engine
Disclaimer: I'm a student who may not be in the know with what is currently going on in the community. I am, however, an active user of open source/linux, and I'm just getting started in some open source development. If my post exudes ignorance, please forgive me! I had the idea of writing an intelligent screensaver that would read data from RSS feeds, pretty up the data, and display it on the screen at certain intervals. The screensaver could go beyond simply using user defined subscriptions for the data. It could decide what news to load based on the user's current location, time of day, music stored on the system, music currently being played, applications currently open, recent search engine queries, etc, etc... The thing is, it seems rather redundant to write all the RSS management tasks into the screensaver. There are a variety of feeders available. But, it would also not be the greatest thing for the screensaver to depend on a feeder. The ideal, I think, would be if GNOME already had an engine/API that could be used for RSS content. I did read somewhere that WebKit could be the answer to this. Is that true? If not, would it be crazy to look at developing some kind of simple framework for developing RSS content? Of course, this then begs the question, what about other web content? It would be great if there were a central management system for web content. Then, all apps could reap the benefits. Microsoft and Apple have it easy, as they know IE and Safari will be on the system, respectively. However, in the open source world, it can't be said with certainty which browser a user will use. Therefore, I think the centralization of web content management is a good idea of GNOME. Please share thoughts and please let me know if I am way off base as well! ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
