Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-14 Thread Ismaël Mejía
The system is setup now and the new issues@ list is alive and ready to
get new subscribers.
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@avro.apache.org

For info the current setup is:

- New/Merge/Close Github PR notifications go to dev@
- All other github interaction (mostly comments) go to issues@

No changes were done for the moment for other notifications:
- All JIRA notifications go to dev@
- New commits notifications all go to commits@

If nobody disagrees i am going to request the JIRA comments to be
moved to issues@ as
suggested by Sean. (I am not sure if this setup is possible but I hope so).

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:56 PM Sean Busbey  wrote:
>
> I'd like a issues@avro  or notifications@avro that has the detailed
> messages from Github and Jira. Great suggestion.
>
> I would prefer PR and jira issue creation / closure still go to the dev
> list, but I don't feel strongly about it since I will probably subscribe to
> both lists.
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:08 AM Driesprong, Fokko 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I'd be in favor of having a separate ML. If you want to keep track of
> > the action at the repository, you can also get notified using Github.
> >
> > Cheers, Fokko
> >
> > Op do 7 mei 2020 om 14:37 schreef Ismaël Mejía :
> >
> > > Let's wait for others opinions and if we agree I will proceed to
> > > create the ML next week.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:13 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think it's safe to create issues@ and merge the PR right away -- it
> > > > would pretty much restore the behaviour the dev@ list had at the
> > > > beginning of the year.
> > > >
> > > > I have all my mailing lists dumped into the same folder, but if
> > > > issues@ existed for JIRA and Github notifications, I would be tempted
> > > > to subscribe to the daily digest instead.
> > > >
> > > > I'm curious about how other highly-productive Apache developers have
> > > > their email filters set up for various projects!  It's easy to get
> > > > overwhelmed by the volume (especially if you don't keep up daily, I
> > > > was off most of March/April).
> > > >
> > > > In any case, https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873 LGTM!
> > > >
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:51 PM Ismaël Mejía 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Other alternative (probably the cleanest is to let dev@ only for
> > > > > discussion and issues for all the JIRA/github action. The tradeoff
> > > > > there is that people subscribed to dev@ only may miss part of the
> > > > > action (+ it is not backwards compatible with our archives) but it is
> > > > > clearly an option too.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:47 PM Ismaël Mejía 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue
> > or
> > > > > > pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
> > > > > > apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can
> > change
> > > > > > that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
> > > > > > different process of the .asf.yaml file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and
> > closed
> > > > > > PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new
> > contributions,
> > > > > > maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and
> > closed
> > > > > > JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
> > > > > > tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
> > > > > > subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Other opinions? Suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So many options
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> > > > > > > issues, which are disabled in github right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org
> > to
> > > > > > > issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess this would make little difference to me in practice
> > since I
> > > > > > > would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to
> > > browse
> > > > > > > and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All my best, Ryan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ismaël,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with
> > > such notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a
> > better
> > > label mechanism for easily 

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-07 Thread Sean Busbey
I'd like a issues@avro  or notifications@avro that has the detailed
messages from Github and Jira. Great suggestion.

I would prefer PR and jira issue creation / closure still go to the dev
list, but I don't feel strongly about it since I will probably subscribe to
both lists.

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:08 AM Driesprong, Fokko 
wrote:

> Yes, I'd be in favor of having a separate ML. If you want to keep track of
> the action at the repository, you can also get notified using Github.
>
> Cheers, Fokko
>
> Op do 7 mei 2020 om 14:37 schreef Ismaël Mejía :
>
> > Let's wait for others opinions and if we agree I will proceed to
> > create the ML next week.
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:13 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it's safe to create issues@ and merge the PR right away -- it
> > > would pretty much restore the behaviour the dev@ list had at the
> > > beginning of the year.
> > >
> > > I have all my mailing lists dumped into the same folder, but if
> > > issues@ existed for JIRA and Github notifications, I would be tempted
> > > to subscribe to the daily digest instead.
> > >
> > > I'm curious about how other highly-productive Apache developers have
> > > their email filters set up for various projects!  It's easy to get
> > > overwhelmed by the volume (especially if you don't keep up daily, I
> > > was off most of March/April).
> > >
> > > In any case, https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873 LGTM!
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:51 PM Ismaël Mejía 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Other alternative (probably the cleanest is to let dev@ only for
> > > > discussion and issues for all the JIRA/github action. The tradeoff
> > > > there is that people subscribed to dev@ only may miss part of the
> > > > action (+ it is not backwards compatible with our archives) but it is
> > > > clearly an option too.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:47 PM Ismaël Mejía 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue
> or
> > > > > pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
> > > > > apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can
> change
> > > > > that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
> > > > > different process of the .asf.yaml file.
> > > > >
> > > > > The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and
> closed
> > > > > PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new
> contributions,
> > > > > maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and
> closed
> > > > > JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
> > > > > tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
> > > > > subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other opinions? Suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So many options
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> > > > > > issues, which are disabled in github right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org
> to
> > > > > > issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess this would make little difference to me in practice
> since I
> > > > > > would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to
> > browse
> > > > > > and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All my best, Ryan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le 
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ismaël,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with
> > such notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a
> better
> > label mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT
> > of extra
> > > > > > > > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is
> > happening because
> > > > > > > > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into
> > mailing lists for its
> > > > > > > > projects and the default configuration right now is sending
> > all the github
> > > > > > > > notifications to dev@
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list
> > called maybe
> > > > > > > > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR
> > comments/reviews there
> > > > > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-07 Thread Driesprong, Fokko
Yes, I'd be in favor of having a separate ML. If you want to keep track of
the action at the repository, you can also get notified using Github.

Cheers, Fokko

Op do 7 mei 2020 om 14:37 schreef Ismaël Mejía :

> Let's wait for others opinions and if we agree I will proceed to
> create the ML next week.
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:13 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> >
> > I think it's safe to create issues@ and merge the PR right away -- it
> > would pretty much restore the behaviour the dev@ list had at the
> > beginning of the year.
> >
> > I have all my mailing lists dumped into the same folder, but if
> > issues@ existed for JIRA and Github notifications, I would be tempted
> > to subscribe to the daily digest instead.
> >
> > I'm curious about how other highly-productive Apache developers have
> > their email filters set up for various projects!  It's easy to get
> > overwhelmed by the volume (especially if you don't keep up daily, I
> > was off most of March/April).
> >
> > In any case, https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873 LGTM!
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:51 PM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > >
> > > Other alternative (probably the cleanest is to let dev@ only for
> > > discussion and issues for all the JIRA/github action. The tradeoff
> > > there is that people subscribed to dev@ only may miss part of the
> > > action (+ it is not backwards compatible with our archives) but it is
> > > clearly an option too.
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:47 PM Ismaël Mejía 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue or
> > > > pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
> > > > apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).
> > > >
> > > > Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can change
> > > > that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
> > > > different process of the .asf.yaml file.
> > > >
> > > > The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and closed
> > > > PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new contributions,
> > > > maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and closed
> > > > JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
> > > > tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
> > > > subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.
> > > >
> > > > Other opinions? Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So many options
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> > > > > issues, which are disabled in github right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org to
> > > > > issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess this would make little difference to me in practice since I
> > > > > would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to
> browse
> > > > > and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
> > > > >
> > > > > All my best, Ryan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ismaël,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with
> such notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better
> label mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT
> of extra
> > > > > > > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is
> happening because
> > > > > > > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into
> mailing lists for its
> > > > > > > projects and the default configuration right now is sending
> all the github
> > > > > > > notifications to dev@
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list
> called maybe
> > > > > > > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR
> comments/reviews there
> > > > > > > and only the new/close PRs here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some
> people and it will
> > > > > > > help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on
> selfserve and a new
> > > > > > > .asf.yaml file following this format.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list
> github@ maybe?
> > > > > > > More configuration ideas?
> > > > > > >
> > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-07 Thread Ismaël Mejía
Let's wait for others opinions and if we agree I will proceed to
create the ML next week.

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:13 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
>
> I think it's safe to create issues@ and merge the PR right away -- it
> would pretty much restore the behaviour the dev@ list had at the
> beginning of the year.
>
> I have all my mailing lists dumped into the same folder, but if
> issues@ existed for JIRA and Github notifications, I would be tempted
> to subscribe to the daily digest instead.
>
> I'm curious about how other highly-productive Apache developers have
> their email filters set up for various projects!  It's easy to get
> overwhelmed by the volume (especially if you don't keep up daily, I
> was off most of March/April).
>
> In any case, https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873 LGTM!
>
> Ryan
>
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:51 PM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> >
> > Other alternative (probably the cleanest is to let dev@ only for
> > discussion and issues for all the JIRA/github action. The tradeoff
> > there is that people subscribed to dev@ only may miss part of the
> > action (+ it is not backwards compatible with our archives) but it is
> > clearly an option too.
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:47 PM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > >
> > > The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue or
> > > pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
> > > apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).
> > >
> > > Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can change
> > > that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
> > > different process of the .asf.yaml file.
> > >
> > > The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and closed
> > > PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new contributions,
> > > maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and closed
> > > JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
> > > tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
> > > subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.
> > >
> > > Other opinions? Suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > > So many options
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> > > > issues, which are disabled in github right?
> > > >
> > > > Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org to
> > > > issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
> > > >
> > > > I guess this would make little difference to me in practice since I
> > > > would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to browse
> > > > and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
> > > >
> > > > All my best, Ryan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ismaël,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with such 
> > > > > notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> > > > >
> > > > > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better 
> > > > > label mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of 
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening 
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing 
> > > > > > lists for its
> > > > > > projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the 
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > notifications to dev@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called 
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR 
> > > > > > comments/reviews there
> > > > > > and only the new/close PRs here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people 
> > > > > > and it will
> > > > > > help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and 
> > > > > > a new
> > > > > > .asf.yaml file following this format.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ 
> > > > > > maybe?
> > > > > > More configuration ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873
> > > > > >


Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-07 Thread Ryan Skraba
I think it's safe to create issues@ and merge the PR right away -- it
would pretty much restore the behaviour the dev@ list had at the
beginning of the year.

I have all my mailing lists dumped into the same folder, but if
issues@ existed for JIRA and Github notifications, I would be tempted
to subscribe to the daily digest instead.

I'm curious about how other highly-productive Apache developers have
their email filters set up for various projects!  It's easy to get
overwhelmed by the volume (especially if you don't keep up daily, I
was off most of March/April).

In any case, https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873 LGTM!

Ryan


Ryan

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:51 PM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
>
> Other alternative (probably the cleanest is to let dev@ only for
> discussion and issues for all the JIRA/github action. The tradeoff
> there is that people subscribed to dev@ only may miss part of the
> action (+ it is not backwards compatible with our archives) but it is
> clearly an option too.
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:47 PM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> >
> > The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue or
> > pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
> > apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).
> >
> > Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can change
> > that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
> > different process of the .asf.yaml file.
> >
> > The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and closed
> > PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new contributions,
> > maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and closed
> > JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
> > tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
> > subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.
> >
> > Other opinions? Suggestions?
> >
> >
> > So many options
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> > >
> > > This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> > > issues, which are disabled in github right?
> > >
> > > Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org to
> > > issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
> > >
> > > I guess this would make little difference to me in practice since I
> > > would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to browse
> > > and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
> > >
> > > All my best, Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ismaël,
> > > >
> > > > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with such 
> > > > notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> > > >
> > > > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better label 
> > > > mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of extra
> > > > > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening 
> > > > > because
> > > > > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing 
> > > > > lists for its
> > > > > projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the 
> > > > > github
> > > > > notifications to dev@
> > > > >
> > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> > > > >
> > > > > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called 
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR 
> > > > > comments/reviews there
> > > > > and only the new/close PRs here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people 
> > > > > and it will
> > > > > help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and a 
> > > > > new
> > > > > .asf.yaml file following this format.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> > > > >
> > > > > WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ 
> > > > > maybe?
> > > > > More configuration ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873
> > > > >


Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-06 Thread Ismaël Mejía
Other alternative (probably the cleanest is to let dev@ only for
discussion and issues for all the JIRA/github action. The tradeoff
there is that people subscribed to dev@ only may miss part of the
action (+ it is not backwards compatible with our archives) but it is
clearly an option too.

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:47 PM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
>
> The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue or
> pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
> apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).
>
> Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can change
> that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
> different process of the .asf.yaml file.
>
> The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and closed
> PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new contributions,
> maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and closed
> JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
> tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
> subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.
>
> Other opinions? Suggestions?
>
>
> So many options
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
> >
> > This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> > issues, which are disabled in github right?
> >
> > Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org to
> > issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
> >
> > I guess this would make little difference to me in practice since I
> > would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to browse
> > and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
> >
> > All my best, Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ismaël,
> > >
> > > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with such 
> > > notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> > >
> > > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better label 
> > > mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of extra
> > > > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening 
> > > > because
> > > > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing 
> > > > lists for its
> > > > projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the 
> > > > github
> > > > notifications to dev@
> > > >
> > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> > > >
> > > > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called 
> > > > maybe
> > > > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR 
> > > > comments/reviews there
> > > > and only the new/close PRs here.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people and 
> > > > it will
> > > > help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and a 
> > > > new
> > > > .asf.yaml file following this format.
> > > >
> > > > https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> > > >
> > > > WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ 
> > > > maybe?
> > > > More configuration ideas?
> > > >
> > > > You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873
> > > >


Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-06 Thread Ismaël Mejía
The issues in the yaml file are every comment done on every issue or
pull requests on github (notice that the issues part probably won't
apply to us since we use JIRA to track issues).

Currently we receive ALL JIRA notifications into dev@ we can change
that us well since it probably makes sense.,However this is a
different process of the .asf.yaml file.

The proposed notification schema will still notify new PRs and closed
PRs into dev@ which is valuable for awareness on new contributions,
maybe we can do that for JIRA too, just notify on created and closed
JIRAs (assuming INFRA can map such rule). then people interested in
tracking the middle steps and issue/PR discussions could go and
subscribe into issues@ where all the detailed information will be.

Other opinions? Suggestions?


So many options

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ryan Skraba  wrote:
>
> This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
> issues, which are disabled in github right?
>
> Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org to
> issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!
>
> I guess this would make little difference to me in practice since I
> would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to browse
> and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!
>
> All my best, Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ismaël,
> >
> > Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with such 
> > notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
> >
> > IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better label 
> > mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of extra
> > > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening because
> > > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing lists 
> > > for its
> > > projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the github
> > > notifications to dev@
> > >
> > > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> > >
> > > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called maybe
> > > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR comments/reviews 
> > > there
> > > and only the new/close PRs here.
> > >
> > > I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people and it 
> > > will
> > > help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> > >
> > > Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and a new
> > > .asf.yaml file following this format.
> > >
> > > https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> > >
> > > WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ maybe?
> > > More configuration ideas?
> > >
> > > You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
> > > https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873
> > >


Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-06 Thread Ryan Skraba
This sounds good to me!  The "issues" in the yaml are the GitHub
issues, which are disabled in github right?

Any opinions on moving JIRA notifications from j...@apache.org to
issues@ as well?  That's what I would expect!

I guess this would make little difference to me in practice since I
would subscribe to both, but it would make it a lot easier to browse
and link to the dev@ mailing list on the web!

All my best, Ryan







On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:15 AM Andy Le  wrote:
>
> Hi Ismaël,
>
> Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with such 
> notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on.
>
> IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better label 
> mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of extra
> > notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening because
> > Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing lists 
> > for its
> > projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the github
> > notifications to dev@
> >
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> >
> > So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called maybe
> > iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR comments/reviews 
> > there
> > and only the new/close PRs here.
> >
> > I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people and it 
> > will
> > help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> >
> > Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and a new
> > .asf.yaml file following this format.
> >
> > https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> >
> > WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ maybe?
> > More configuration ideas?
> >
> > You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
> > https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873
> >


Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Le
Hi Ismaël,

Yep, I think it's a little bit noisy for our mailing list with such 
notifications. But it's fun to see what other people are working on. 

IMHO, in addition to a new mailing list, we should have a better label 
mechanism for easily routing/filtering messages.

Thank you.

On 2020/05/05 22:59:59, Ismaël Mejía  wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
> Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of extra
> notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening because
> Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing lists for 
> its
> projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the github
> notifications to dev@
> 
> https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro
> 
> So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called maybe
> iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR comments/reviews 
> there
> and only the new/close PRs here.
> 
> I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people and it will
> help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.
> 
> Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and a new
> .asf.yaml file following this format.
> 
> https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify
> 
> WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ maybe?
> More configuration ideas?
> 
> You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
> https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873
> 


[DISCUSS] Create a new mailing list for github notifications

2020-05-05 Thread Ismaël Mejía
Hello,

Some of you have probably noticed that we are receiving a LOT of extra
notifications that were not active in the past.  This is happening because
Apache INFRA installed a new way to map notifications into mailing lists for its
projects and the default configuration right now is sending all the github
notifications to dev@

https://gitbox.apache.org/schemes.cgi?avro

So I would like to propose that we create a new mailing list called maybe
iss...@avro.apache.org To send all the git individual PR comments/reviews there
and only the new/close PRs here.

I suppose that issues@ could be a list of interest for some people and it will
help us have a more readable dev@ mailing list.

Technically all we need to do is create the new ML on selfserve and a new
.asf.yaml file following this format.

https://s.apache.org/asfyaml-notify

WDYT? Other preferences or other name for the mailing list github@ maybe?
More configuration ideas?

You can see a WIP of the proposed changes here:
https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/873