Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-07-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
The PR has been merged, it looks good to me.

Thanks !

Regards
JB

On 10/07/2018 01:18, Lukasz Cwik wrote:
> Actually, it hasn't been reviewed yet. Here is the
> PR: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
> 
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:16 PM Lukasz Cwik  <mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thats great, I have a PR here that has been
> reviewed: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
> 
> Will merge.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:15 PM Mark Liu  <mailto:mark...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> The work that moving Dataflow build off Maven pom is done in
> Google internal, so this should no longer be the blocker for pom
> deletion on Beam. 
> 
> Considering it's been two weeks after 2.5 release, I propose to
> resume Maven pom cleanup if no known blockers.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM Kenneth Knowles  <mailto:k...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> -user@ for misc. progress reporting
> 
> I took a look at it yesterday. Learned a lot, made some
> progress that turns out to just be general goodness, and
> left comment on the JIRA.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM Lukasz Cwik
> mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> Any updates on BEAM-4512?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Lukasz Cwik
> mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the
> grace period. I'll wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512
> or two weeks before
> merging https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles
> mailto:k...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your
> build tools from your dependencies' build tools.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu
>  <mailto:yuzhih...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> +1 on this effort
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Chamikara Jayalath
>  <mailto:chamik...@google.com>>
> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>         To: dev@beam.apache.org
>             <mailto:dev@beam.apache.org>,
> u...@beam.apache.org
> <mailto:u...@beam.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting
> Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?
> 
> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo
> mentioned, we need some time to migrate
> internal Dataflow build off of Maven build
> files. I created
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 
> for
> this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cham
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene
> Kirpichov  <mailto:kirpic...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep
> a copy of the pom.xmls and delete it as
> soon as Dataflow is migrated?
> 
> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle
> without issues for a while and almost
> forgot pom.xml's still existed.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo
> Estrada  <mailto:pabl...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
> I agree that we should delete the
> pom.xml files soon, as they create a
> burden for maintainers. 
> 
> I'd like to be able to extend the
> grace period by a bit, to allow the
> internal build systems at Google to
>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-07-09 Thread Lukasz Cwik 
Actually, it hasn't been reviewed yet. Here is the PR:
https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:16 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:

> Thats great, I have a PR here that has been reviewed:
> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>
> Will merge.
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:15 PM Mark Liu  wrote:
>
>> The work that moving Dataflow build off Maven pom is done in Google
>> internal, so this should no longer be the blocker for pom deletion on Beam.
>>
>> Considering it's been two weeks after 2.5 release, I propose to resume
>> Maven pom cleanup if no known blockers.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>
>>> -user@ for misc. progress reporting
>>>
>>> I took a look at it yesterday. Learned a lot, made some progress that
>>> turns out to just be general goodness, and left comment on the JIRA.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any updates on BEAM-4512?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the grace period.
>>>>> I'll wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512 or two weeks before merging
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
>>>>>> dependencies' build tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 on this effort
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Original message 
>>>>>>> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
>>>>>>> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>>> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files
>>>>>>> (pom.xml) grace period?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
>>>>>>> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Cham
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov <
>>>>>>> kirpic...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>>>>>>>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and
>>>>>>>> almost forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they
>>>>>>>>> create a burden for maintainers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow
>>>>>>>>> the internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam 
>>>>>>>>> poms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's
>>>>>>>>> critical for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we 
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> up a gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>>>>>>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has
>>>>>>>>> recently worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> -P.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>>>>>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>>>>>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven 
>>>>>>>>>> Central.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is
>>>>>>>>>> underway, I wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are 
>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>> to delete the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is 
>>>>>>>>>> finalized plus
>>>>>>>>>> a two week grace period.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>>>>>>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-07-09 Thread Lukasz Cwik 
Thats great, I have a PR here that has been reviewed:
https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571

Will merge.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:15 PM Mark Liu  wrote:

> The work that moving Dataflow build off Maven pom is done in Google
> internal, so this should no longer be the blocker for pom deletion on Beam.
>
> Considering it's been two weeks after 2.5 release, I propose to resume
> Maven pom cleanup if no known blockers.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
>> -user@ for misc. progress reporting
>>
>> I took a look at it yesterday. Learned a lot, made some progress that
>> turns out to just be general goodness, and left comment on the JIRA.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>
>>> Any updates on BEAM-4512?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the grace period. I'll
>>>> wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512 or two weeks before merging
>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
>>>>> dependencies' build tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 on this effort
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Original message 
>>>>>> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
>>>>>> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files
>>>>>> (pom.xml) grace period?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
>>>>>> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Cham
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>>>>>>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and
>>>>>>> almost forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they
>>>>>>>> create a burden for maintainers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow
>>>>>>>> the internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam 
>>>>>>>> poms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's
>>>>>>>> critical for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we 
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>> up a gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>>>>>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has
>>>>>>>> recently worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> -P.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>>>>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>>>>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is
>>>>>>>>> underway, I wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are 
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>> to delete the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is 
>>>>>>>>> finalized plus
>>>>>>>>> a two week grace period.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>>>>>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-07-09 Thread Mark Liu 
The work that moving Dataflow build off Maven pom is done in Google
internal, so this should no longer be the blocker for pom deletion on Beam.

Considering it's been two weeks after 2.5 release, I propose to resume
Maven pom cleanup if no known blockers.

Mark


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> -user@ for misc. progress reporting
>
> I took a look at it yesterday. Learned a lot, made some progress that
> turns out to just be general goodness, and left comment on the JIRA.
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>
>> Any updates on BEAM-4512?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the grace period. I'll
>>> wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512 or two weeks before merging
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
>>>> dependencies' build tools.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 on this effort
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Original message 
>>>>> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
>>>>> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files
>>>>> (pom.xml) grace period?
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
>>>>> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Cham
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>>>>>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and
>>>>>> almost forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create
>>>>>>> a burden for maintainers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow
>>>>>>> the internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam 
>>>>>>> poms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's
>>>>>>> critical for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we 
>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>> up a gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>>>>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has
>>>>>>> recently worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> -P.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>>>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>>>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is
>>>>>>>> underway, I wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are 
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to delete the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized 
>>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>>> a two week grace period.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>>>>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-19 Thread Kenneth Knowles 
-user@ for misc. progress reporting

I took a look at it yesterday. Learned a lot, made some progress that turns
out to just be general goodness, and left comment on the JIRA.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:

> Any updates on BEAM-4512?
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>
>> Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the grace period. I'll
>> wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512 or two weeks before merging
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
>>> dependencies' build tools.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 on this effort
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
>>>> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml)
>>>> grace period?
>>>>
>>>> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
>>>> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Cham
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>>>>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>>>>
>>>>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and
>>>>> almost forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create
>>>>>> a burden for maintainers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
>>>>>> internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's
>>>>>> critical for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set
>>>>>> up a gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>>>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has
>>>>>> recently worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> -P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway,
>>>>>>> I wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to 
>>>>>>> delete
>>>>>>> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
>>>>>>> week grace period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>>>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-18 Thread Lukasz Cwik 
Any updates on BEAM-4512?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:

> Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the grace period. I'll
> wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512 or two weeks before merging
> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
>> dependencies' build tools.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on this effort
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
>>> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml)
>>> grace period?
>>>
>>> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
>>> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cham
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>>>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>>>
>>>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and
>>>> almost forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a
>>>>> burden for maintainers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
>>>>> internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
>>>>>
>>>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's
>>>>> critical for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set
>>>>> up a gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has
>>>>> recently worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> -P.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway,
>>>>>> I wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to 
>>>>>> delete
>>>>>> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
>>>>>> week grace period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-11 Thread Lukasz Cwik 
Thanks all, it seems as though only Google needs the grace period. I'll
wait for the shorter of BEAM-4512 or two weeks before merging
https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> +1
>
> Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
> dependencies' build tools.
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:
>
>> +1 on this effort
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
>> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml)
>> grace period?
>>
>> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
>> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cham
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>>
>>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and almost
>>> forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a
>>>> burden for maintainers.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
>>>> internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
>>>>
>>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's
>>>> critical for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set
>>>> up a gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has
>>>> recently worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> -P.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway, I
>>>>> wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to delete
>>>>> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
>>>>> week grace period.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>>
>>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>>
>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-06 Thread Kenneth Knowles 
+1

Definitely a good opportunity to decouple your build tools from your
dependencies' build tools.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ted Yu  wrote:

> +1 on this effort
>
>  Original message 
> From: Chamikara Jayalath 
> Date: 6/6/18 2:09 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml)
> grace period?
>
> +1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to
> migrate internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.
>
> Thanks,
> Cham
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and
>> delete it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>>
>> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and almost
>> forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a
>>> burden for maintainers.
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
>>> internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
>>>
>>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's critical
>>> for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set up a
>>> gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has recently
>>> worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>>
>>> Best
>>> -P.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>>
>>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway, I
>>>> wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to delete
>>>> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
>>>> week grace period.
>>>>
>>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>>
>>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>>> <https://goto.google.com/pabloem-feedback>
>>>
>>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-06 Thread Ted Yu 
+1 on this effort
 Original message From: Chamikara Jayalath 
 Date: 6/6/18  2:09 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: 
dev@beam.apache.org, u...@beam.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] 
Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period? 
+1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to migrate 
internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.

Thanks,Cham
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov  wrote:
Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and delete it 
as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and almost forgot 
pom.xml's still existed.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:
I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a burden 
for maintainers. 
I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the internal 
build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's critical for us 
that they are available for a few more weeks while we set up a gradle build. 
Perhaps 4 weeks? (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath who has recently worked on 
internal Dataflow tooling.)
Best-P.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it produces. This 
is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam themselves and not 
relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway, I wanted 
to start this thread to remind people that we are going to delete the Maven 
pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two week grace period.
Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?

The PR to delete the pom.xml is here: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
-- 
Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-06 Thread Chamikara Jayalath 
+1 for the overall effort. As Pablo mentioned, we need some time to migrate
internal Dataflow build off of Maven build files. I created
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4512 for this.

Thanks,
Cham

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Eugene Kirpichov 
wrote:

> Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and delete
> it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?
>
> Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and almost
> forgot pom.xml's still existed.
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:
>
>> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a
>> burden for maintainers.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
>> internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
>>
>> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's critical
>> for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set up a
>> gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
>> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has recently
>> worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>>
>> Best
>> -P.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>>
>>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>>
>>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway, I
>>> wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to delete
>>> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
>>> week grace period.
>>>
>>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>>
>>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>>
>> --
>> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
>> 
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-06 Thread Eugene Kirpichov 
Is it possible for Dataflow to just keep a copy of the pom.xmls and delete
it as soon as Dataflow is migrated?

Overall +1, I've been using Gradle without issues for a while and almost
forgot pom.xml's still existed.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 1:13 PM Pablo Estrada  wrote:

> I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a
> burden for maintainers.
>
> I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
> internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.
>
> We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's critical
> for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set up a
> gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
> (Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has recently
> worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)
>
> Best
> -P.
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:
>
>> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it
>> produces. This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam
>> themselves and not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>>
>> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway, I
>> wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to delete
>> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
>> week grace period.
>>
>> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>>
>> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>>
> --
> Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback
> 
>

Re: [DISCUSS] [BEAM-4126] Deleting Maven build files (pom.xml) grace period?

2018-06-06 Thread Pablo Estrada 
I agree that we should delete the pom.xml files soon, as they create a
burden for maintainers.

I'd like to be able to extend the grace period by a bit, to allow the
internal build systems at Google to move away from using the Beam poms.

We use these pom files to build Dataflow workers, and thus it's critical
for us that they are available for a few more weeks while we set up a
gradle build. Perhaps 4 weeks?
(Calling out+Chamikara Jayalath  who has recently
worked on internal Dataflow tooling.)

Best
-P.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM Lukasz Cwik  wrote:

> Note: Apache Beam will still provide pom.xml for each release it produces.
> This is only about people using Maven to build Apache Beam themselves and
> not relying on the released artifacts in Maven Central.
>
> With the first release using Gradle as the build system is underway, I
> wanted to start this thread to remind people that we are going to delete
> the Maven pom.xml files after the 2.5.0 release is finalized plus a two
> week grace period.
>
> Are there others who would like a shorter/longer grace period?
>
> The PR to delete the pom.xml is here:
> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5571
>
-- 
Got feedback? go/pabloem-feedback