Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

Hi everyone,

This note is a follow-up to this discussion thread.

Around the middle of April, the CloudStack PMC received an e-mail indicating 
(to our surprise) that we needed to provide the people organizing Montreal’s 
upcoming ApacheCon (which includes the CloudStack Collab Conf) with a schedule 
by Thursday, April 19th.

As this was sooner than we had expected, we were not able to get the group of 
people who had volunteered to look at the CFP together for a call.

Giles, Will Stevens, and I ended up examining the 29 submissions. We determined 
that four people had submitted more than one proposal (which is perfectly fine, 
of course). Being that we needed to respond to the organizers quickly, we 
decided if we limited each person who submitted one or more abstracts to only 
one that we would then be able to accept a presentation from each person.

Please let me know if you have questions.

Thanks,
Mike

On 3/27/18, 1:39 PM, "Tutkowski, Mike"  wrote:

Hi everyone,

As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack 
Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:

http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/

Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with 
regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):

https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html

If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 30th.

That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort 
through these presentation submissions.

If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to this 
message.

Thanks!
Mike

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

> comment further on
> >> > this), we
> >> > > >> have a track at ApacheCon and will need to
> fill it with X
> >> > number of
> >> > > >> presentations. To do this, it seems like a
> CloudStack-focused
> >> > panel
> >> > > would
> >> > > >> be a good approach, but I am definitely open
> to another
> >> > approach.
> >> > > We don’t
> >> > > >> want to exclude anyone (in or out of the
> CloudStack
> >> > Community) who
> >> > > might
> >> > > >> like to provide input. Anyone who is
> interested would, of
> >> > course,
> >> > > be free
> >> > > >> to join us in combing through the proposals.
> >> > > >>> We don’t need to get started on this right
> away. The CFP just
> >> > > closed
> >> > > >> yesterday. Let’s wait for feedback from
> Giles (who is
> >> > currently on
> >> > > >> vacation) and go from there.
> >> > > >>> Thanks!
> >> > > >>> Mike
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On 3/31/18, 6:59 AM, "Ron Wheeler" <
> >> > rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> <mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >>>  Is this a real concern?
> >> > > >>>  Why would a large number of Apache
> contributors who are
> >> > not
> >> > > >> interested
> >> > > >>>  in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those
> "part of the
> >> > Cloudstack
> >> > > >>>  community") get involved as reviewers
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  Reviewing involves some commitment of
> time so I am hard
> >> > > pressed
> >> > > >> to guess
> >> > > >>>  why some Apache contributor would
> volunteer to do the
> >> > work in
> >> > > >> order to
> >> > > >>>  veto a presentation that they have not
> yet seen or have
> >> > no
> >> > > >> interest in
> >> > > >>>  seeing.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  Are we guaranteed a fixed number of
> hours of
> >> > presentations or
> >> > > is
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >>>  review process part of the allocation
> of overall time?
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  On what basis can some group veto a
> presentation?
> >> > > >>>  That would seem to be a very strong
> action and I would
> >> > hope
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> it
> >> > > >>>  requires a strong reason.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  OTOH if a large??? number of Apache
>     contributors
    >     >>     > (regardless
> >> > > of
> >> > > >> their
> >> > > >>>  affiliation) say that a presentation
> has se

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Ron Wheeler]

>>     >     >     >> limited
>>     >     >     >>>      interest, that would seem to be a red
flag that the
>>     >     > presentation
>>     >     >     >>>      requires improvement or needs to be
dropped in favour of
>>     >     > another
>>     >     >     >>>      Cloudstack presentation, if it can not
    be fixed.
>>     >     >     >>>
>>     >     >     >>>      We should also be aware that this is
an opportunity to
>>     >     > "market"
>>     >     >     >>>      Cloudstack to the broader Apache
community.
>>     >     >     >>>      Outside reviewers might have valuable
input into how
>>     >     >     >> presentations can
>>     >     >     >>>      attract new adopters or be clearer to
the broader DevOps
>>     >     >     >> community.
>>     >     >     >>>      We also need to remember that we do
have an active
>>     > community
>>     >     > and
>>     >     >     >> other
>>     >     >     >>>      opportunities during the year to
present presentations
>>     > that do
>>     >     >     >> not get
>>     >     >     >>>      selected for this conference.
>>     >     >     >>>
>>     >     >     >>>      If their is a real fear that a lot of
"outsiders" are
>>     > going to
>>     >     >     >> disrupt
>>     >     >     >>>      the review process, a more reasonable
response would
>>     > seem to
>>     >     > be
>>     >     >     >> to get
>>     >     >     >>>      more reviewers from the community.
>>     >     >     >>>
>>     >     >     >>>      I have volunteered already.
>>     >     >     >>>
>>     >     >     >>>      Ron
>>     >     >     >>>
>>     >     >     >>>>      On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski,
Mike wrote:
>>     >     >     >>>> Hi Rafael,
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular
situation. Allow
>>     > me
>>     >     >     >> to explain:
>>     >     >     >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack
Collaboration
>>     >     >     >> Conference will be held as a track in the
larger ApacheCon
>>     >     > conference in
>>     >     >     >> Montreal this coming September.
>>     >     >     >>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who
wishes to do so can
>>     >     >     >> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
>>     >     >     >>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is
that we might get
>>     >     >     >> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by
people who are
>>     > not, per
>>     >     > se, a
>>     >     >     >> part of our community.
>>     >     >     >>>> That being the case, I have contacted the
organizers for
>>     >     >     >> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can
section off the
>>     >     > CloudStack CFP
>>     >     >     >> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review
purposes.
>>     >     >     >>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I
am proposing here
>>     >     >     >> would handle this review task.
>>     >     >     >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>> Thanks!
>>     >     >     >>>> Mike
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
>>     >     >     >> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com
<mailto:rafaelweingart...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     >     >     >>>>      Are we going to have a separated
review process?
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>      I thought anybody could go here [1]
and apply for a
>>     >     >     >> reviewer position and
>>     >     >     >>>>      start reviewing. Well, that is what I
did. I have
>>     > already
>>     >     >     >> reviewed some
>>     >     >     >>>> CloudStack proposals (of course I did not
review
>>     > mines).
>>     >     >     >> After asking to
>>     >     >     >>>>      review presentations, Rich has giving
me access to the
>>     >     >     >> system. I thought
>>     >     >     >>>>      everybody interest in helping was
going to do the same.
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>      [1]
>>     >     >     >>
https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-
>>     >     > north-america-2018
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>      On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen
- swen.io <http://swen.io> <
>>     >     >     >> m...@swen.io <mailto:m...@swen.io>> wrote:
>>     >     >     >>>>> Hi Mike,
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> congrats!
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> Best regards,
>>     >     >     >>>>> Swen
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>     >     >     >>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike
[mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com <mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>]
>>     >     >     >>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>>     >     >     >>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
<mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>;
>>     >     >     >> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
<mailto:us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>     >     >     >>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC
Presentation
>>     >     >     >> Submissions
>>     >     >     >>>>> Hi everyone,
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> As you may be aware, this coming
September in Montreal,
>>     >     >     >> the CloudStack
>>     >     >     >>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack
Collaboration
>>     >     >     >> Conference:
>>     >     >     >>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> Even though the event is six months away,
we are on a
>>     >     >     >> tight schedule with
>>     >     >     >>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>>
https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> If you are interested in submitting a
talk, please do
>>     >     >     >> so before March 30th.
>>     >     >     >>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have
need of a small
>>     >     >     >> committee to sort
>>     >     >     >>>>> through these presentation submissions.
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> If you are interested in helping out in
this process,
>>     >     >     >> please reply to this
>>     >     >     >>>>> message.
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>> Thanks!
>>     >     >     >>>>> Mike
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>      --
>>     >     >     >>>>      Rafael Weingärtner
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>>
>>     >     >     >>>
>>     >     >
>>     >     >     --
>>     >     >     Ron Wheeler
>>     >     >     President
>>     >     >     Artifact Software Inc
>>     >     >     email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
<mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
>>     >     >     skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>     >     >     phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     --
>>     >     Rafael Weingärtner
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>               --
>>     Rafael Weingärtner
>>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
<mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>



--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Will Stevens]

> > this), we
> >> > > >> have a track at ApacheCon and will need to fill it
> with X
> >> > number of
> >> > > >> presentations. To do this, it seems like a
> CloudStack-focused
> >> > panel
> >> > > would
> >> > > >> be a good approach, but I am definitely open to
> another
> >> > approach.
> >> > > We don’t
> >> > > >> want to exclude anyone (in or out of the CloudStack
> >> > Community) who
> >> > > might
> >> > > >> like to provide input. Anyone who is interested
> would, of
> >> > course,
> >> > > be free
> >> > > >> to join us in combing through the proposals.
> >> > > >>> We don’t need to get started on this right away.
> The CFP just
> >> > > closed
> >> > > >> yesterday. Let’s wait for feedback from Giles (who is
> >> > currently on
> >> > > >> vacation) and go from there.
> >> > > >>> Thanks!
> >> > > >>> Mike
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On 3/31/18, 6:59 AM, "Ron Wheeler" <
> >> > rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >>>  Is this a real concern?
> >> > > >>>  Why would a large number of Apache
> contributors who are
> >> > not
> >> > > >> interested
> >> > > >>>  in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those "part
> of the
> >> > Cloudstack
> >> > > >>>  community") get involved as reviewers
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  Reviewing involves some commitment of time so
> I am hard
> >> > > pressed
> >> > > >> to guess
> >> > > >>>  why some Apache contributor would volunteer to
> do the
> >> > work in
> >> > > >> order to
> >> > > >>>  veto a presentation that they have not yet
> seen or have
> >>     > no
> >> > > >> interest in
> >> > > >>>  seeing.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of
> >> > presentations or
> >> > > is
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >>>  review process part of the allocation of
> overall time?
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  On what basis can some group veto a
> presentation?
> >> > > >>>  That would seem to be a very strong action and
> I would
> >> > hope
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> it
> >> > > >>>  requires a strong reason.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  OTOH if a large??? number of Apache
> contributors
> >> > (regardless
> >> > > of
> >> > > >> their
> >> > > >>>  affiliation) say that a presentation has
> serious issues
> >> > or
> >> > > very
> >> > > >> limited
> >> > > >>>  interest, that would seem to be a red flag
> that the
> >> > > presentation
> >> > > >>>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in
> favour of
> >> > > another
> >> > > >>>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be
> fixed.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>  We should also be aware that this is an
> opportunity to
> >> > > "market"
> >> > > >>>  C

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

butors who 
>> are
>> > not
>> > > >> interested
>> > > >>>  in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those "part of the
>> > Cloudstack
>> > > >>>  community") get involved as reviewers
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  Reviewing involves some commitment of time so I am 
>> hard
>> > > pressed
>> > > >> to guess
>> > > >>>  why some Apache contributor would volunteer to do 
>> the
>> > work in
>> > > >> order to
>> > > >>>  veto a presentation that they have not yet seen or 
>> have
>> > no
>> > > >> interest in
>> > > >>>  seeing.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of
>> > presentations or
>> > > is
>> > > >> the
>> > > >>>  review process part of the allocation of overall 
>> time?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  On what basis can some group veto a presentation?
>> > > >>>  That would seem to be a very strong action and I 
>> would
>> > hope
>> > > that
>> > > >> it
>> > >     >>>  requires a strong reason.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors
>> > (regardless
>> > > of
>> > > >> their
>> > > >>>  affiliation) say that a presentation has serious 
>> issues
>> > or
>> > > very
>> > > >> limited
>> > > >>>  interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the
>> > > presentation
>> > > >>>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in 
>> favour of
>> > > another
>> > > >>>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  We should also be aware that this is an opportunity 
>> to
>> > > "market"
>> > > >>>  Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
>> > > >>>  Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
>> > > >> presentations can
>> > > >>>  attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader 
>> DevOps
>> > > >> community.
>> > > >>>  We also need to remember that we do have an active
>> > community
>> > > and
>> > > >> other
>> > > >>>  opportunities during the year to present 
>> presentations
>> > that do
>> > > >> not get
>> > > >>>  selected for this conference.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" 
>> are
>> > going to
>> > > >> disrupt
>> > > >>>  the review process, a more reasonable response would
>> > seem to
>> > > be
>> > > >> to get
>> > > >>>  more reviewers from the community.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  I have volunteered already.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  Ron
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
>> > > >>>> Hi Rafael,
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. 
>> Allow
>> > me
>> > > >> to explain:
>> > > >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
>> > > >> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon
>> > > conference in
>> > > >> Montreal this coming September.
>> > > >>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so 
>> can
>> > > >> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
>> > > >>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might 
>> get
>> > > >> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are
>> > not, per
>> > > se, a
>> > > >> part of our community.
>> > > >>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
>> > > >> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off 
>> the
>> > > CloudStack CFP
>> > > >> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
>> > > >>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing 
>> here
>> > > >> would handle this review task.
>> > > >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Thanks!
>> > > >>>> Mike
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
>> > > >> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>  Are we going to have a separated review process?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
>> > > >> reviewer position and
>> > > >>>>  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have
>> > already
>> > > >> reviewed some
>> > > >>>>  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review
>> > mines).
>> > > >> After asking to
>> > > >>>>  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to 
>> the
>> > > >> system. I thought
>> > > >>>>  everybody interest in helping was going to do the 
>> same.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>  [1]
>> > > >> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-
>> > > north-america-2018
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
>> > > >> m...@swen.io> wrote:
>> > > >>>>> Hi Mike,
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> congrats!
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Best regards,
>> > > >>>>> Swen
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> > > >>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
>> > > >>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>> > > >>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
>> > > >> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>> > > >>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
>> > > >> Submissions
>> > > >>>>> Hi everyone,
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
>> > > >> the CloudStack
>> > > >>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
>> > > >> Conference:
>> > > >>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
>> > > >> tight schedule with
>> > > >>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
>> > > >> so before March 30th.
>> > > >>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
>> > > >> committee to sort
>> > > >>>>> through these presentation submissions.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> If you are interested in helping out in this process,
>> > > >> please reply to this
>> > > >>>>> message.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Thanks!
>> > > >>>>> Mike
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>  --
>> > > >>>>  Rafael Weingärtner
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ron Wheeler
>> > > President
>> > > Artifact Software Inc
>> > > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>> > > skype: ronaldmwheeler
>> > > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rafael Weingärtner
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>   --
>> Rafael Weingärtner
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
> 

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Ron Wheeler]

gt;>>
 > >     >>>      I have volunteered already.
 > > >>>
 > > >>>  Ron
 > > >>>
 > > >>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
 > > >>>> Hi Rafael,
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. 
Allow
 > me
 > > >> to explain:
 > > >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
 > > >> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon
 > > conference in
 > > >> Montreal this coming September.
 > > >>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so 
can
 > > >> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
 > > >>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
 > > >> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are
 > not, per
 > > se, a
 > > >> part of our community.
 > > >>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
 > > >> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the
 > > CloudStack CFP
 > > >> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
 > > >>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing 
here
 > > >> would handle this review task.
 > > >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> Thanks!
 > > >>>> Mike
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
 > > >> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
 > > >>>>  Are we going to have a separated review process?
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
 > > >> reviewer position and
 > > >>>>  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have
 > already
 > > >> reviewed some
 > > >>>>  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review
 > mines).
 > > >> After asking to
 > > >>>>  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to 
the
 > > >> system. I thought
 > > >>>>  everybody interest in helping was going to do the 
same.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>  [1]
 > > >> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-
 > > north-america-2018
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
 > > >> m...@swen.io> wrote:
 > > >>>>> Hi Mike,
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> congrats!
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> Best regards,
 > > >>>>> Swen
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 > > >>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
 > > >>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
 > > >>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
 > > >> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
 > > >>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
 > > >> Submissions
 > > >>>>> Hi everyone,
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
 > > >> the CloudStack
 > > >>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
 > > >> Conference:
 > > >>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
 > > >> tight schedule with
 > > >>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
 > > >> so before March 30th.
 > > >>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
 > > >> committee to sort
 > > >>>>> through these presentation submissions.
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> If you are interested in helping out in this process,
 > > >> please reply to this
 > > >>>>> message.
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> Thanks!
 > > >>>>> Mike
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>  --
 > > >>>>  Rafael Weingärtner
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>
 > >
 > > --
 > > Ron Wheeler
 > > President
 > > Artifact Software Inc
 > > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
 > > skype: ronaldmwheeler
 > > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 >
 >
 > --
 > Rafael Weingärtner
 >
 >
 >
 
 
 --

 Rafael Weingärtner
 



--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

t started on this right away. The CFP 
just
> > closed
> > >> yesterday. Let’s wait for feedback from Giles (who is
> currently on
> > >> vacation) and go from there.
> > >>> Thanks!
> > >>> Mike
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3/31/18, 6:59 AM, "Ron Wheeler" <
> rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>  Is this a real concern?
> > >>>  Why would a large number of Apache contributors who are
> not
> > >> interested
> > >>>  in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those "part of the
> Cloudstack
> > >>>  community") get involved as reviewers
> > >>>
> > >>>  Reviewing involves some commitment of time so I am hard
> > pressed
> > >> to guess
> > >>>  why some Apache contributor would volunteer to do the
> work in
> > >> order to
> > >>>  veto a presentation that they have not yet seen or have
> no
> > >> interest in
> > >>>  seeing.
> > >>>
> > >>>  Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of
> presentations or
> > is
> > >> the
> > >>>  review process part of the allocation of overall time?
> > >>>
> > >>>  On what basis can some group veto a presentation?
> > >>>  That would seem to be a very strong action and I would
> hope
> > that
> > >> it
> > >>>  requires a strong reason.
> > >>>
> > >>>  OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors
> (regardless
> > of
> > >> their
> > >>>  affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues
> or
> > very
> > >> limited
> > >>>  interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the
> > presentation
> > >>>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour 
of
> > another
> > >>>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
> > >>>
> > >>>  We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to
> > "market"
> > >>>  Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
> > >>>  Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
> > >> presentations can
> > >>>  attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader 
DevOps
> > >> community.
> > >>>  We also need to remember that we do have an active
> community
> > and
> > >> other
> > >>>  opportunities during the year to present presentations
> that do
> > >> not get
> > >>>  selected for this conference.
> > >>>
> > >>>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are
> going to
> > >> disrupt
> > >>>  the review process, a more reasonable response would
> seem to
> > be
> > >> to get
> > >>>  more reviewers from the community.
    >     > >>>
>     > >>>  I have volunteered already.
> > >>>
> > >>>  Ron
> > >>>
> > >>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
> > >>>> Hi Rafael,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow
> me
> > >> to explain:
> > >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
> > >> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon
> > conference in
> &

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Rafael Weingärtner]

> > is
> > >> the
> > >>>  review process part of the allocation of overall time?
> > >>>
> > >>>  On what basis can some group veto a presentation?
> > >>>  That would seem to be a very strong action and I would
> hope
> > that
> > >> it
> > >>>  requires a strong reason.
> > >>>
> > >>>  OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors
> (regardless
> > of
> > >> their
> > >>>  affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues
> or
> > very
> > >> limited
> > >>>  interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the
> > presentation
> > >>>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of
> > another
> > >>>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
> > >>>
> > >>>  We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to
> > "market"
> > >>>  Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
> > >>>  Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
> > >> presentations can
> > >>>  attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps
> > >> community.
> > >>>  We also need to remember that we do have an active
> community
> > and
> > >> other
> > >>>  opportunities during the year to present presentations
> that do
> > >> not get
> > >>>  selected for this conference.
> > >>>
> > >>>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are
> going to
>     > >> disrupt
> > >>>  the review process, a more reasonable response would
> seem to
> > be
> > >> to get
> > >>>  more reviewers from the community.
> > >>>
> > >>>  I have volunteered already.
> > >>>
> > >>>  Ron
> > >>>
> > >>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
> > >>>> Hi Rafael,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow
> me
> > >> to explain:
> > >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
> > >> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon
> > conference in
> > >> Montreal this coming September.
> > >>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can
> > >> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
> > >>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
> > >> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are
> not, per
> > se, a
> > >> part of our community.
> > >>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
> > >> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the
> > CloudStack CFP
> > >> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
> > >>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here
> > >> would handle this review task.
> > >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >>>> Mike
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
> > >> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>  Are we going to have a separated review process?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
> > >> reviewer position and
> > >>>>  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have
> already
> > >> reviewed some
> > >>>>  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review
> mines).
> > >> After asking to
> > >>>>  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the
> > >> system. I thought
> > >>>>  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  [1]
> > >> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-
> > north-america-2018
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
> > >> m...@swen.io> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Mike,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> congrats!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>> Swen
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > >>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
> > >>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
> > >>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
> > >> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> > >>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
> > >> Submissions
> > >>>>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
> > >> the CloudStack
> > >>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
> > >> Conference:
> > >>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
> > >> tight schedule with
> > >>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
> > >> so before March 30th.
> > >>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
> > >> committee to sort
> > >>>>> through these presentation submissions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you are interested in helping out in this process,
> > >> please reply to this
> > >>>>> message.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>> Mike
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  --
> > >>>>  Rafael Weingärtner
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> > --
> > Ron Wheeler
> > President
> > Artifact Software Inc
> > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> > skype: ronaldmwheeler
> > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rafael Weingärtner
>
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

gt;
> >>>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going 
to
> >> disrupt
> >>>  the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to
> be
> >> to get
> >>>  more reviewers from the community.
> >>>
> >>>  I have volunteered already.
> >>>
> >>>  Ron
> >>>
> >>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
> >>>> Hi Rafael,
> >>>>
> >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me
> >> to explain:
> >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
> >> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon
> conference in
> >> Montreal this coming September.
> >>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can
> >> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
> >>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
> >> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per
> se, a
> >> part of our community.
> >>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
> >> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the
> CloudStack CFP
> >> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
> >>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here
> >> would handle this review task.
> >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
> >> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>  Are we going to have a separated review process?
> >>>>
> >>>>  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
> >> reviewer position and
> >>>>  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already
> >> reviewed some
> >>>>  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines).
> >> After asking to
> >>>>  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the
> >> system. I thought
> >>>>  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
> >>>>
> >>>>  [1]
> >> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-
> north-america-2018
> >>>>
> >>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
> >> m...@swen.io> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Mike,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> congrats!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Swen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
> >>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
> >>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
> >> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
> >> Submissions
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
> >> the CloudStack
> >>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
> >> Conference:
> >>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
> >> tight schedule with
> >>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
> >> so before March 30th.
> >>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
> >> committee to sort
> >>>>> through these presentation submissions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you are interested in helping out in this process,
> >> please reply to this
> >>>>> message.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  --
> >>>>  Rafael Weingärtner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Rafael Weingärtner]

;> like to provide input. Anyone who is interested would, of course,
> be free
> >> to join us in combing through the proposals.
> >>> We don’t need to get started on this right away. The CFP just
> closed
> >> yesterday. Let’s wait for feedback from Giles (who is currently on
> >> vacation) and go from there.
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On 3/31/18, 6:59 AM, "Ron Wheeler" <rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>  Is this a real concern?
> >>>  Why would a large number of Apache contributors who are not
> >> interested
> >>>  in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those "part of the Cloudstack
> >>>  community") get involved as reviewers
> >>>
> >>>  Reviewing involves some commitment of time so I am hard
> pressed
> >> to guess
> >>>  why some Apache contributor would volunteer to do the work in
> >> order to
> >>>  veto a presentation that they have not yet seen or have no
> >> interest in
> >>>  seeing.
> >>>
> >>>  Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of presentations or
> is
> >> the
> >>>  review process part of the allocation of overall time?
> >>>
> >>>  On what basis can some group veto a presentation?
> >>>  That would seem to be a very strong action and I would hope
> that
> >> it
> >>>  requires a strong reason.
> >>>
> >>>  OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors (regardless
> of
> >> their
> >>>  affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues or
> very
> >> limited
> >>>  interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the
> presentation
> >>>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of
> another
> >>>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
> >>>
> >>>  We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to
> "market"
> >>>  Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
> >>>  Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
> >> presentations can
> >>>  attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps
> >> community.
> >>>  We also need to remember that we do have an active community
> and
> >> other
> >>>  opportunities during the year to present presentations that do
> >> not get
> >>>  selected for this conference.
> >>>
> >>>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to
> >> disrupt
> >>>  the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to
> be
> >> to get
> >>>  more reviewers from the community.
> >>>
> >>>  I have volunteered already.
> >>>
> >>>  Ron
> >>>
> >>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
> >>>> Hi Rafael,
> >>>>
> >>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me
> >> to explain:
> >>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
> >> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon
> conference in
> >> Montreal this coming September.
> >>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can
> >> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
> >>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
> >> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per
> se, a
> >> part of our community.
> >>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
> >> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the
> CloudStack CFP
> >> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
> >>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here
> >> would handle this review task.
> >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

ontributors (regardless of
>> their
>>>  affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues or very
>> limited
>>>  interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the presentation
>>>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of another
>>>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
>>>
>>>  We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to "market"
>>>  Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
>>>  Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
>> presentations can
>>>  attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps
>> community.
>>>  We also need to remember that we do have an active community and
>> other
>>>  opportunities during the year to present presentations that do
>> not get
>>>  selected for this conference.
>>>
>>>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to
>> disrupt
>>>  the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to be
>> to get
>>>  more reviewers from the community.
>>>
>>>  I have volunteered already.
>>>
>>>  Ron
>>>
>>>>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>
>>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me
>> to explain:
>>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
>> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in
>> Montreal this coming September.
>>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can
>> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
>>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
>> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a
>> part of our community.
>>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
>> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the CloudStack 
CFP
>> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
>>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here
>> would handle this review task.
    >>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  Are we going to have a separated review process?
>>>>
>>>>  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
>> reviewer position and
>>>>  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already
>> reviewed some
>>>>  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines).
>> After asking to
>>>>  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the
>> system. I thought
>>>>  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
>>>>
>>>>  [1]
>> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
>> m...@swen.io> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> congrats!
>>>>>
>>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Swen
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
>> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
>> Submissions
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
>> the CloudStack
>>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
>> Conference:
>>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
>> tight schedule with
>>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
>> so before March 30th.
>>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
>> committee to sort
>>>>> through these presentation submissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested in helping out in this process,
>> please reply to this
>>>>> message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>  Rafael Weingärtner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Ron Wheeler]

iving me access to the

system. I thought

 everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.

 [1]

https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018


 On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <

m...@swen.io> wrote:

Hi Mike,

congrats!

I can help sort through presentations.

Best regards,
Swen

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;

us...@cloudstack.apache.org

Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation

Submissions

Hi everyone,

As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,

the CloudStack

Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration

Conference:

http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/

Even though the event is six months away, we are on a

tight schedule with

regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):

https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html

If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do

so before March 30th.

That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small

committee to sort

through these presentation submissions.

If you are interested in helping out in this process,

please reply to this

message.

Thanks!
Mike





 --
 Rafael Weingärtner






--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

utor would volunteer to do the work in
> order to
>> veto a presentation that they have not yet seen or have no
> interest in
>> seeing.
>> 
>> Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of presentations or is
> the
>> review process part of the allocation of overall time?
>> 
>> On what basis can some group veto a presentation?
>> That would seem to be a very strong action and I would hope that
> it
>> requires a strong reason.
>> 
>> OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors (regardless of
> their
>> affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues or very
> limited
>> interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the presentation
>> requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of another
>> Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
>> 
>> We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to "market"
>> Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
>> Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
> presentations can
>> attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps
> community.
>> We also need to remember that we do have an active community and
> other
>> opportunities during the year to present presentations that do
> not get
>> selected for this conference.
>> 
>> If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to
> disrupt
>> the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to be
> to get
>> more reviewers from the community.
>> 
>> I have volunteered already.
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>>> On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
>>> Hi Rafael,
>>> 
>>> It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me
> to explain:
>>> 
>>> As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
> Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in
> Montreal this coming September.
>>> 
>>> It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can
> contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
>>> 
>>> What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
> certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a
> part of our community.
>>> 
>>> That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
> ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the CloudStack CFP
> from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
>>> 
>>> Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here
> would handle this review task.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps clarify the situation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are we going to have a separated review process?
>>> 
>>> I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
> reviewer position and
>>> start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already
> reviewed some
>>> CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines).
> After asking to
>>> review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the
> system. I thought
>>> everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
>>> 
>>> [1]
> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
> m...@swen.io> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> congrats!
>>>> 
>>>> I can help sort through presentations.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Swen
>>>> 
>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>>>> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
> us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
> Submissions
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
> the CloudStack
>>>> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
> Conference:
>>>> 
>>>> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>>>> 
>>>> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
> tight schedule with
>>>> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>>>> 
>>>> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
> so before March 30th.
>>>> 
>>>> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
> committee to sort
>>>> through these presentation submissions.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are interested in helping out in this process,
> please reply to this
>>>> message.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Rafael Weingärtner
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Ron Wheeler
>> President
>> Artifact Software Inc
>> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
>--
>Ron Wheeler
>President
>Artifact Software Inc
>email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>skype: ronaldmwheeler
>phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Will Stevens]

erest, that would seem to be a red flag that the presentation
>  requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of another
>  Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.
>
>  We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to "market"
>  Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
>  Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how
presentations can
>  attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps
community.
>  We also need to remember that we do have an active community and
other
>  opportunities during the year to present presentations that do
not get
>  selected for this conference.
>
>  If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to
disrupt
>  the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to be
to get
>  more reviewers from the community.
>
>  I have volunteered already.
>
>  Ron
>
>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
>  > Hi Rafael,
>  >
>  > It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me
to explain:
>  >
>  > As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration
Conference will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in
Montreal this coming September.
>  >
>  > It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can
contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
>  >
>  > What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get
certain CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a
part of our community.
>  >
>  > That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for
ApacheCon to see if there is some way we can section off the CloudStack CFP
from the larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
>  >
>  > Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here
would handle this review task.
>  >
>  > I hope that helps clarify the situation.
>  >
>  > Thanks!
>  > Mike
>  >
>  > On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <
rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Are we going to have a separated review process?
>  >
>  >  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a
reviewer position and
>  >  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already
reviewed some
>  >  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines).
After asking to
>  >  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the
system. I thought
>  >  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
>  >
>  >  [1]
https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <
m...@swen.io> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > Hi Mike,
>  >  >
>  >  > congrats!
    >  >  >
>  >  > I can help sort through presentations.
>  >  >
>  >  > Best regards,
>  >  > Swen
>  >  >
>  >  > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>  >  > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
>  >  > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>  >  > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org;
us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>  >  > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
Submissions
>  >  >
>  >  > Hi everyone,
>  >  >
>  >  > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal,
the CloudStack
>  >  > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
Conference:
>  >  >
>  >  > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>  >  >
>  >  > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a
tight schedule with
>  >  > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>  >  >
>  >  > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>  >  >
>  >  > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do
so before March 30th.
>  >  >
>  >  > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
committee to sort
>  >

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to 
disrupt
>  the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to be to 
get
>  more reviewers from the community.
>  
>  I have volunteered already.
>  
>  Ron
>  
>  On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:
>  > Hi Rafael,
>  >
>  > It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me to 
explain:
>  >
>  > As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration Conference 
will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in Montreal this 
coming September.
>  >
>  > It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can 
contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.
>  >
>  > What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get certain 
CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a part of our 
community.
>  >
>  > That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for ApacheCon 
to see if there is some way we can section off the CloudStack CFP from the 
larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.
>  >
>  > Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here would 
handle this review task.
>  >
>  > I hope that helps clarify the situation.
>  >
>  > Thanks!
>  > Mike
>  >
>  > On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" 
<rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Are we going to have a separated review process?
>  >
>  >  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer 
position and
>  >  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already 
reviewed some
>  >  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). 
After asking to
>  >  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the 
system. I thought
>  >  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
>  >
>  >  [1] 
https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io 
<m...@swen.io> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > Hi Mike,
>  >  >
>  >  > congrats!
    >  >  >
    >  >  > I can help sort through presentations.
>  >  >
>  >  > Best regards,
>  >  > Swen
>  >  >
>  >  > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>  >  > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
>  >  > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>  >  > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>  >  > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation 
Submissions
>  >  >
>  >  > Hi everyone,
>  >  >
>  >  > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the 
CloudStack
>  >  > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration 
Conference:
>  >  >
>  >  > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>  >  >
>  >  > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight 
schedule with
>  >  > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>  >  >
>  >  > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>  >  >
>  >  > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so 
before March 30th.
>  >  >
>  >  > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small 
committee to sort
>  >  > through these presentation submissions.
>  >  >
>  >  > If you are interested in helping out in this process, 
please reply to this
>  >  > message.
>  >  >
>  >  > Thanks!
>  >  > Mike
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  Rafael Weingärtner
>  >
>  >
>  
>  --
>  Ron Wheeler
>  President
>  Artifact Software Inc
>  email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>  skype: ronaldmwheeler
>  phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>  
>  
>

-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Will Stevens]

 rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Are we going to have a separated review process?
> >
> >  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer
> position and
> >  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already
> reviewed some
> >  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). After
> asking to
> >  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the system.
> I thought
> >  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
> >
> >  [1]
> https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
> >
> >
> >  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <m...@swen.io>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > Hi Mike,
> >  >
> >  > congrats!
> >  >
> >  > I can help sort through presentations.
> >  >
> >  > Best regards,
> >  > Swen
> >  >
> >  > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >  > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
> >  > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
> >  > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> >  > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation
> Submissions
> >  >
> >  > Hi everyone,
> >  >
> >  > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the
> CloudStack
> >  > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration
> Conference:
> >  >
> >  > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
> >  >
> >  > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight
> schedule with
> >  > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
> >  >
> >  > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
> >  >
> >  > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so
> before March 30th.
> >  >
> >  > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small
> committee to sort
> >  > through these presentation submissions.
> >  >
> >  > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please
> reply to this
> >  > message.
> >  >
> >  > Thanks!
> >  > Mike
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Rafael Weingärtner
> >
> >
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>
>
>

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Ron Wheeler]

his review task.
 >
 > I hope that helps clarify the situation.
 >
 > Thanks!
 > Mike
 >
 > On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 >
 >  Are we going to have a separated review process?
 >
 >  I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer 
position and
 >  start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already reviewed 
some
 >  CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). After 
asking to
 >  review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the system. I 
thought
 >  everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
 >
 >  [1] 
https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
 >
 >
 >  On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <m...@swen.io> 
wrote:
 >
 >  > Hi Mike,
 >  >
 >  > congrats!
 >  >
 >  > I can help sort through presentations.
 >  >
 >  > Best regards,
 >  > Swen
 >  >
 >  > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
 >      > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
 >  > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
 >  > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
 >  > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions
 >  >
 >  > Hi everyone,
 >  >
 >  > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the 
CloudStack
 >  > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
 >  >
 >  > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
 >  >
 >  > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight 
schedule with
 >  > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
 >  >
 >  > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
 >  >
 >  > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before 
March 30th.
 >  >
 >  > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee 
to sort
 >  > through these presentation submissions.
 >  >
 >  > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please 
reply to this
 >  > message.
 >  >
 >  > Thanks!
 >  > Mike
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >
 >
 >  --
 >  Rafael Weingärtner
 >
 >
 
 --

 Ron Wheeler
 President
 Artifact Software Inc
 email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
 skype: ronaldmwheeler
 phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
 
 



--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

> Hi Mike,
>  >
>  > congrats!
>  >
>  > I can help sort through presentations.
>  >
>  > Best regards,
>  > Swen
>  >
>  > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
    >      > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
>  > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
>  > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>  > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions
>  >
>  > Hi everyone,
>  >
>  > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the 
CloudStack
>  > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
>  >
>  > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>  >
>  > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight 
schedule with
>  > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>  >
>  > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>  >
>  > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before 
March 30th.
>  >
>  > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee 
to sort
>  > through these presentation submissions.
>  >
>  > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply 
to this
>  > message.
>  >
>  > Thanks!
>  > Mike
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  
>  
>  --
>  Rafael Weingärtner
>  
>

-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Ron Wheeler]

Is this a real concern?
Why would a large number of Apache contributors who are not interested 
in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those "part of the Cloudstack 
community") get involved as reviewers


Reviewing involves some commitment of time so I am hard pressed to guess 
why some Apache contributor would volunteer to do the work in order to 
veto a presentation that they have not yet seen or have no interest in 
seeing.


Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of presentations or is the 
review process part of the allocation of overall time?


On what basis can some group veto a presentation?
That would seem to be a very strong action and I would hope that it 
requires a strong reason.


OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors (regardless of their 
affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues or very limited 
interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the presentation 
requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of another 
Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed.


We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to "market" 
Cloudstack to the broader Apache community.
Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how presentations can 
attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps community.
We also need to remember that we do have an active community and other 
opportunities during the year to present presentations that do not get 
selected for this conference.


If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to disrupt 
the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to be to get 
more reviewers from the community.


I have volunteered already.

Ron

On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:

Hi Rafael,

It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me to explain:

As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration Conference will be held 
as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in Montreal this coming September.

It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can contribute to 
reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.

What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get certain CloudStack 
CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a part of our community.

That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for ApacheCon to see if 
there is some way we can section off the CloudStack CFP from the larger 
ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.

Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here would handle this 
review task.

I hope that helps clarify the situation.

Thanks!
Mike

On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Are we going to have a separated review process?
 
 I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer position and

 start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already reviewed some
 CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). After asking to
 review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the system. I thought
 everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.
 
 [1] https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <m...@swen.io> wrote:
 
 > Hi Mike,

 >
 > congrats!
 >
 > I can help sort through presentations.
 >
 > Best regards,
 > Swen
 >
 > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
 > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
     > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
 > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions
 >
 > Hi everyone,
 >
 > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack
 > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
 >
 > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
 >
 > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with
 > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
 >
 > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
 >
 > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 
30th.
 >
 > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort
 > through these presentation submissions.
 >
 > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to 
this
 > message.
 >
 > Thanks!
 > Mike
 >
 >
 >
 
 
 --

 Rafael Weingärtner
 



--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

Hi Rafael,

It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me to explain:

As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration Conference will be held 
as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in Montreal this coming September.

It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can contribute to 
reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon.

What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get certain CloudStack 
CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a part of our community.

That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for ApacheCon to see if 
there is some way we can section off the CloudStack CFP from the larger 
ApacheCon CFP for review purposes.

Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here would handle this 
review task.

I hope that helps clarify the situation.

Thanks!
Mike

On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:

Are we going to have a separated review process?

I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer position and
start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already reviewed some
CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). After asking to
review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the system. I thought
everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.

[1] https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018


On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <m...@swen.io> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> congrats!
>
> I can help sort through presentations.
>
> Best regards,
> Swen
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack
> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
>
> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>
> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with
> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>
> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>
> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 
30th.
>
> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort
> through these presentation submissions.
>
> If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to this
> message.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

RE: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Paul Angus]

I'm happy to chip in.

paul.an...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
  
 


-Original Message-
From: Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> 
Sent: 27 March 2018 21:20
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

I can support this.

Cheers,

Will

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:39 PM Tutkowski, Mike, <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack 
> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
>
> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>
> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule 
> with regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>
> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>
> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 30th.
>
> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to 
> sort through these presentation submissions.
>
> If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to 
> this message.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Rafael Weingärtner]

Are we going to have a separated review process?

I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer position and
start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already reviewed some
CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). After asking to
review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the system. I thought
everybody interest in helping was going to do the same.

[1] https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018


On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <m...@swen.io> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> congrats!
>
> I can help sort through presentations.
>
> Best regards,
> Swen
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40
> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack
> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
>
> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>
> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with
> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>
> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>
> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 30th.
>
> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort
> through these presentation submissions.
>
> If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to this
> message.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Gabriel Beims Bräscher]

I can help with this.

2018-03-27 17:32 GMT-03:00 Khosrow Moossavi :

> I can help as well.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Will Stevens 
> wrote:
>
> > I can support this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:39 PM Tutkowski, Mike, <
> mike.tutkow...@netapp.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack
> > > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
> > >
> > > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
> > >
> > > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule
> with
> > > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
> > >
> > > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
> > >
> > > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March
> > 30th.
> > >
> > > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to
> sort
> > > through these presentation submissions.
> > >
> > > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to
> > this
> > > message.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Khosrow Moossavi]

I can help as well.




On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Will Stevens  wrote:

> I can support this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:39 PM Tutkowski, Mike,  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack
> > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
> >
> > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
> >
> > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with
> > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
> >
> > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
> >
> > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March
> 30th.
> >
> > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort
> > through these presentation submissions.
> >
> > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to
> this
> > message.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Mike
> >
>

Re: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Will Stevens]

I can support this.

Cheers,

Will

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:39 PM Tutkowski, Mike, 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack
> Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:
>
> http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/
>
> Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with
> regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):
>
> https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html
>
> If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 30th.
>
> That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort
> through these presentation submissions.
>
> If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to this
> message.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>

Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation Submissions

[Tutkowski, Mike]

Hi everyone,

As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the CloudStack 
Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration Conference:

http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/

Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight schedule with 
regards to the Call For Participation (CFP):

https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html

If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so before March 30th.

That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small committee to sort 
through these presentation submissions.

If you are interested in helping out in this process, please reply to this 
message.

Thanks!
Mike