Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Nick Burch 

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016, Benson Margulies wrote:

A patch:


Key added in r13138

Nick

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Re: [COLLECTIONS] [DISCUSS] Possible candidate for inclusion in Commons-Collections: OrderedSet (provides composite-key based ordering of a set of values)

2016-04-11 Thread Daniel Vimont 
Thanks to all those providing feedback on *OrderedSet*. Based on your
comments I've made revisions to the introductory paragraphs in both the
README text  and the Javadocs
, with an eye toward explaining more effectively
up front what differentiates an *OrderedSet *from the standard
ordering/sorting options that are available.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Daniel Vimont  wrote:

> I very much appreciate your feedback on this so far!
>
> Clearly, one major challenge before me is to provide much better
> documentation, and by "better" I mean documentation which explains up front
> (within the first couple of sentences) what differentiates the OrderedSet
> implementation from other Collection implementations which order or sort
> items.
>
> One obvious analogy that comes to mind (which might be helpful to include
> in some appropriate place within Javadocs and/or README text) is that of a
> "card catalog". This seems to me a close-to-perfect analogy with one major
> caveat: many people under 30 may not know what a card catalog is!
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Daniel Vimont 
> wrote:
>
>> Such is the beauty of open-source development -- please do fork away -- I
>> would be anxious to see what you come up with! And I will look into OGNL
>> (had not heard of it before).
>>
>> BTW, here is the original desktop application in which I developed the
>> progenitor of OrderedSet: https://youtu.be/A1NJD8t9RIU
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:19 PM, James Carman > > wrote:
>>
>>> Don't get me wrong.  This is a cool idea and I think we can build upon
>>> it.
>>> But, I think we can "stand on the shoulders of giants" a bit here and use
>>> some tools that are already available to us.  The use of reflection in
>>> your
>>> code is a little off-putting.  One option to consider would be something
>>> like OGNL.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 9:53 AM Daniel Vimont 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into emulating OrderedSet
>>> > functionality using the two classes you recommend.
>>> >
>>> > Since all of the materials that I provided may be a bit on the "tl;dr"
>>> > side, I will focus on a single example:
>>> >
>>> > Book class, with the following attribute get-methods:
>>> >   getAuthors -- returns collection of Author objects (a Book may have
>>> > multiple authors)
>>> >   getGenres -- returns collection of Genre objects (a Book may be
>>> > classified in multiple genres)
>>> >   getTitle -- returns a Title object (a Book has only one title)
>>> >
>>> > Order these two Books by a Genre|Author|Title composite-key
>>> >   Book 1:
>>> > Title: Dictionary of the English Language
>>> > Genres: Nonfiction; Reference
>>> > Authors: Merriam, George; Webster, Noah
>>> >   Book 2:
>>> > Title: A Walk in the Woods
>>> > Genres: Nonfiction; Travel; Quest
>>> > Author: Bryson, Bill
>>> >
>>> > Following construction and population of an OrderedSet, invocation of
>>> the
>>> > #entrySet method will return the following entries:
>>> >
>>> > *Key-components (composite-key)   Value*
>>> > *==   *
>>> > *Genre   Author   Title   Book*
>>> > *--   --  *
>>> > *Nonfiction  Bryson, Bill A Walk...   Book 2*
>>> > *Nonfiction  Merriam, George  Dictionary...   Book 1*
>>> > *Nonfiction  Webster, NoahDictionary...   Book 1*
>>> > *Quest   Bryson, Bill A Walk...   Book 2*
>>> > *Reference   Merriam, George  Dictionary...   Book 1*
>>> > *Reference   Webster, NoahDictionary...   Book 1*
>>> > *Travel  Bryson, Bill A Walk...   Book 2*
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 8:19 PM, James Carman <
>>> ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Couldn't you achieve the same thing using any SortedSet and
>>> > > CompareToBuilder?
>>> > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:17 AM Daniel Vimont 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hello all,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I've just published a new extension to the standard Java
>>> Collections
>>> > > > Framework to both GitHub and the Maven Central Repository, and am
>>> > > > considering offering it up for possible inclusion in the Apache
>>> Commons
>>> > > > Collections package.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The name of the class is "OrderedSet", which is an abbreviated
>>> version
>>> > of
>>> > > > its original working name, "CompositeKeyOrderedSet". As its
>>> previous
>>> > > > working name suggests, an OrderedSet provides for composite-key
>>> based
>>> > > > ordering of a set of values (analogous to composite-key ordering
>>> in a
>>> > > > relational database). To get a better sense of what that actually
>>> > means,
>>> > > > the README text on the project's GitHub page provides a quick
>>> overview
>>> > > (or
>>> > > > dive down into the source code on the GitHub page, if you prefer):
>>> > > > https://github.co

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Gary Gregory 
Weird, I'm having trouble applying the patch (my own ineptitude no doubt)
Can someone else give it a go SVP?

Gary

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Benson Margulies 
wrote:

> A patch:
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> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:04 PM, sebb  wrote:
> > On 11 April 2016 at 23:57, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
> >> I volunteered here because I (mis?) remembered that commons had
> >> decided to activate the 'univeral commit bit', so that I would already
> >> have commit access.
> >
> > The dist repo is not the same as the commons repo; they don't even
> > share the same parent.
> >
> >> Are you willing to add me to the group?
> >
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gary Gregory 
> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
>  > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack
> of
>  > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
>  >
> 
>  AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
>  data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Really? It seems like keeping the whole repo is a good idea. How much
> data
> >>> are we talking about here?
> >>>
> >>> Are we talking about a Git limit or an Apache limit?
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> 
>  I think the problem is

Re: Git not suitable for dist repo (was: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?)

2016-04-11 Thread Andrew Wang 
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, sebb  wrote:

> On 11 April 2016 at 23:44, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:
> >
> >> On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
> >> > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
> >> > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
> >> >
> >>
> >> AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
> >> data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.
> >>
> >
> > Really?
>
> Yes, Git repos can only be checked out wholesale.
> And when you clone a repo, you will get everything, including all the
> history.
>
> You can do a git clone with --depth to do a shallow clone, this way you
don't download the full history.

Doesn't help with the subtrees though.

Git not suitable for dist repo (was: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?)

2016-04-11 Thread sebb 
On 11 April 2016 at 23:44, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:
>
>> On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies  wrote:
>> > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
>> > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
>> >
>>
>> AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
>> data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.
>>
>
> Really?

Yes, Git repos can only be checked out wholesale.
And when you clone a repo, you will get everything, including all the history.

With SVN you can check out a part, for example:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/commons/io/source

and you will only get the current source archives, not any previous releases.

Git would require you to check out at the project level as a minimum
(it would be too much work to maintain separate repos for each
component) and the clone would include all the archives that were ever
checked in, even those since deleted.

That's the point of the Git distributed system; every clone has everything.

Whereas with SVN only the server has everything - developers can
download just the bit they want.

If you accidentally check in a large file into Git, everyone gets a
copy, even if you then delete it.

AIUI it is possible to remove files completely from Git, but it
requires very careful handling to ensure that the history is not
destroyed.

> It seems like keeping the whole repo is a good idea.

AFAIK Infra *do* keep the whole repo.

>  How much data are we talking about here?

All project artifacts released by all projects since svnpubsub was introduced.

That is quite a lot of data.

> Are we talking about a Git limit or an Apache limit?
>

Neither; it's a limit on what is sensible for developers to attempt to download.

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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:04 PM, sebb  wrote:
> On 11 April 2016 at 23:57, Benson Margulies  wrote:
>> I volunteered here because I (mis?) remembered that commons had
>> decided to activate the 'univeral commit bit', so that I would already
>> have commit access.
>
> The dist repo is not the same as the commons repo; they don't even
> share the same parent.
>
>> Are you willing to add me to the group?
>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:
>>>
 On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies  wrote:
 > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
 > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
 >

 AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
 data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.

>>>
>>> Really? It seems like keeping the whole repo is a good idea. How much data
>>> are we talking about here?
>>>
>>> Are we talking about a Git limit or an Apache limit?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>

 I think the problem is that you are not in the Commons Unix group.

 > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies 
 wrote:
 >> First Karma issue:
 >>
 >> SendingKEYS
 >> Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
 >> svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
 >> forbidden by the server
 >> svn: E175013:

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread sebb 
On 11 April 2016 at 23:57, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> I volunteered here because I (mis?) remembered that commons had
> decided to activate the 'univeral commit bit', so that I would already
> have commit access.

The dist repo is not the same as the commons repo; they don't even
share the same parent.

> Are you willing to add me to the group?

>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:
>>
>>> On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies  wrote:
>>> > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
>>> > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
>>> >
>>>
>>> AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
>>> data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.
>>>
>>
>> Really? It seems like keeping the whole repo is a good idea. How much data
>> are we talking about here?
>>
>> Are we talking about a Git limit or an Apache limit?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>>
>>> I think the problem is that you are not in the Commons Unix group.
>>>
>>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> First Karma issue:
>>> >>
>>> >> SendingKEYS
>>> >> Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
>>> >> svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
>>> >> forbidden by the server
>>> >> svn: E175013: Access to
>>> >> '/repos/dist/!svn/txr/13132-b9c/release/commons/KEYS' forbidden
>>> >> svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
>>> >> svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp'
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies <
>>> bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> And there are recent commits.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
>>> >>> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
>>> >>> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
>>> >>> reason not to do that?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>> wrote:
>>>  There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That
>>> might
>>>  require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be
>>> a good
>>>  thing to doc on the wiki/site.
>>> 
>>>  G
>>> 
>>>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>> > > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
>>> > > enough permission.
>>> >
>>> > Benson,
>>> >
>>> > Willing volunteers are always welcome.
>>> >
>>> > As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
>>> >
>>> > As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
>>> >
>>> > Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant
>>> you
>>> > any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the
>>> PMC.
>>> > That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
>>> > (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board.
>>> That
>>> > said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
>>> > requires PMC membership.
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
>>> > >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights
>>> can
>>> > be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> - Original Message -
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
>>> > >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>>> > >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
>>> > >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
>>> > permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am
>>> wrong,
>>> > as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> - Original Message -
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
>>> > >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>>> > >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
>>> > >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I
>>> just
>>> > >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide
>>> group
>>> > >> of people access.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
>>> > >>  wrote:
>>> > >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
>>> > bimargul...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> >  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it witho

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
I volunteered here because I (mis?) remembered that commons had
decided to activate the 'univeral commit bit', so that I would already
have commit access. Are you willing to add me to the group?


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:
>
>> On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies  wrote:
>> > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
>> > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
>> >
>>
>> AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
>> data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.
>>
>
> Really? It seems like keeping the whole repo is a good idea. How much data
> are we talking about here?
>
> Are we talking about a Git limit or an Apache limit?
>
> Gary
>
>>
>> I think the problem is that you are not in the Commons Unix group.
>>
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies 
>> wrote:
>> >> First Karma issue:
>> >>
>> >> SendingKEYS
>> >> Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
>> >> svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
>> >> forbidden by the server
>> >> svn: E175013: Access to
>> >> '/repos/dist/!svn/txr/13132-b9c/release/commons/KEYS' forbidden
>> >> svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
>> >> svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies <
>> bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
>> >>>
>> >>> And there are recent commits.
>> >>>
>> >>> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
>> >>> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
>> >>> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
>> >>> reason not to do that?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory 
>> wrote:
>>  There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That
>> might
>>  require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be
>> a good
>>  thing to doc on the wiki/site.
>> 
>>  G
>> 
>>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> > > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
>> > > enough permission.
>> >
>> > Benson,
>> >
>> > Willing volunteers are always welcome.
>> >
>> > As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
>> >
>> > As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
>> >
>> > Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant
>> you
>> > any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the
>> PMC.
>> > That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
>> > (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board.
>> That
>> > said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
>> > requires PMC membership.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
>> > >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights
>> can
>> > be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> - Original Message -
>> > >>
>> > >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
>> > >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>> > >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>> > >>
>> > >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
>> > permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am
>> wrong,
>> > as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> - Original Message -
>> > >>
>> > >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
>> > >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>> > >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>> > >>
>> > >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I
>> just
>> > >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide
>> group
>> > >> of people access.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
>> > >>  wrote:
>> > >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
>> > bimargul...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> >  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as
>> something
>> > else?
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
>> > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> >  wrote:
>> > > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need
>> an RM to
>>

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Gary Gregory 
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb  wrote:

> On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> > I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
> > discussion of same on the relevant web page.
> >
>
> AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
> data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.
>

Really? It seems like keeping the whole repo is a good idea. How much data
are we talking about here?

Are we talking about a Git limit or an Apache limit?

Gary

>
> I think the problem is that you are not in the Commons Unix group.
>
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
> >> First Karma issue:
> >>
> >> SendingKEYS
> >> Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
> >> svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
> >> forbidden by the server
> >> svn: E175013: Access to
> >> '/repos/dist/!svn/txr/13132-b9c/release/commons/KEYS' forbidden
> >> svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
> >> svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp'
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies <
> bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
> >>>
> >>> And there are recent commits.
> >>>
> >>> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
> >>> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
> >>> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
> >>> reason not to do that?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory 
> wrote:
>  There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That
> might
>  require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be
> a good
>  thing to doc on the wiki/site.
> 
>  G
> 
>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas 
> wrote:
> 
> > On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
> > > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
> > > enough permission.
> >
> > Benson,
> >
> > Willing volunteers are always welcome.
> >
> > As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
> >
> > As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
> >
> > Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant
> you
> > any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the
> PMC.
> > That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
> > (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board.
> That
> > said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
> > requires PMC membership.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
> > >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights
> can
> > be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >>
> > >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
> > >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> > >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> > >>
> > >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
> > permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am
> wrong,
> > as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >>
> > >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
> > >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> > >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> > >>
> > >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I
> just
> > >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide
> group
> > >> of people access.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
> > bimargul...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as
> something
> > else?
> > 
> > 
> >  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
> > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >  wrote:
> > > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need
> an RM to
> >  step
> > > up or step back in.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
> > bimargul...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
> > >>
> > >>
> > -

Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Gary Gregory 
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Benson Margulies 
wrote:

> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
>
> And there are recent commits.
>
> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
> reason not to do that?
>

I do not see why not. Go for it.

Gary


>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory 
> wrote:
> > There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That
> might
> > require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be a
> good
> > thing to doc on the wiki/site.
> >
> > G
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
> >> > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
> >> > enough permission.
> >>
> >> Benson,
> >>
> >> Willing volunteers are always welcome.
> >>
> >> As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
> >>
> >> As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
> >>
> >> Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
> >> any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
> >> That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
> >> (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
> >> said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
> >> requires PMC membership.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
> >> >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can
> >> be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >>
> >> >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
> >> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
> >> permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am
> wrong,
> >> as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >>
> >> >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
> >> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> >> >>
> >> >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
> >> >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide
> group
> >> >> of people access.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
> >> bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something
> >> else?
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
> >> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an
> RM to
> >>  step
> >> > up or step back in.
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
> >> bimargul...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> -
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> >> >>
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> >> >
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread sebb 
On 11 April 2016 at 22:56, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
> discussion of same on the relevant web page.
>

AIUI the dist/ tree will never be moved to Git because it has so much
data in it, and it's not possible to check out a part of a Git repo.

I think the problem is that you are not in the Commons Unix group.

> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies  
> wrote:
>> First Karma issue:
>>
>> SendingKEYS
>> Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
>> svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
>> forbidden by the server
>> svn: E175013: Access to
>> '/repos/dist/!svn/txr/13132-b9c/release/commons/KEYS' forbidden
>> svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
>> svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp'
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies  
>> wrote:
>>> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
>>>
>>> And there are recent commits.
>>>
>>> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
>>> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
>>> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
>>> reason not to do that?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory  
>>> wrote:
 There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That might
 require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be a good
 thing to doc on the wiki/site.

 G

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
> > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
> > enough permission.
>
> Benson,
>
> Willing volunteers are always welcome.
>
> As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
>
> As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
>
> Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
> any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
> That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
> (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
> said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
> requires PMC membership.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
> >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can
> be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> >>
> >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
> permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong,
> as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> >>
> >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
> >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
> >> of people access.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
> >>  wrote:
> >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
> bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something
> else?
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM 
> > to
>  step
> > up or step back in.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
> bimargul...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
> >>
> >>
> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
I'm assuming this code hasn't been moved to git, based on the lack of
discussion of same on the relevant web page.


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> First Karma issue:
>
> SendingKEYS
> Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
> svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
> forbidden by the server
> svn: E175013: Access to
> '/repos/dist/!svn/txr/13132-b9c/release/commons/KEYS' forbidden
> svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
> svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp'
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies  
> wrote:
>> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
>>
>> And there are recent commits.
>>
>> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
>> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
>> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
>> reason not to do that?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>>> There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That might
>>> require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be a good
>>> thing to doc on the wiki/site.
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>>>
 On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
 > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
 > enough permission.

 Benson,

 Willing volunteers are always welcome.

 As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.

 As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.

 Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
 any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
 That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
 (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
 said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
 requires PMC membership.

 Mark


 >
 > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
 >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can
 be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
 >>
 >>
 >> - Original Message -
 >>
 >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
 >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
 >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
 >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
 >>
 >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
 permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong,
 as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
 >>
 >>
 >> - Original Message -
 >>
 >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
 >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
 >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
 >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
 >>
 >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
 >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
 >> of people access.
 >>
 >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
 >>  wrote:
 >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
 >>>
 >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
 bimargul...@gmail.com>
 >>> wrote:
 >>>
  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something
 else?
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
 garydgreg...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
 > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
  step
 > up or step back in.
 >
 > Gary
 >
 > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
 bimargul...@gmail.com
 >
 > wrote:
 >
 >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
 >>
 >>
 -
 >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
 >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
 >>
 >>
 >
 >
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 > 
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
First Karma issue:

SendingKEYS
Transmitting file data .svn: E195023: Commit failed (details follow):
svn: E195023: Changing file '/Users/benson/asf/commons/KEYS' is
forbidden by the server
svn: E175013: Access to
'/repos/dist/!svn/txr/13132-b9c/release/commons/KEYS' forbidden
svn: E195023: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
svn: E195023:'/Users/benson/asf/commons/svn-commit.tmp'


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.
>
> And there are recent commits.
>
> I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
> tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
> leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
> reason not to do that?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>> There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That might
>> require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be a good
>> thing to doc on the wiki/site.
>>
>> G
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>> > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
>>> > enough permission.
>>>
>>> Benson,
>>>
>>> Willing volunteers are always welcome.
>>>
>>> As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
>>>
>>> As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
>>>
>>> Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
>>> any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
>>> That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
>>> (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
>>> said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
>>> requires PMC membership.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
>>> >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can
>>> be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >>
>>> >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
>>> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>>> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
>>> permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong,
>>> as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >>
>>> >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
>>> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>>> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>>> >>
>>> >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
>>> >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
>>> >> of people access.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
>>> bimargul...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something
>>> else?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
>>>  step
>>> > up or step back in.
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
>>> bimargul...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> -
>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
>>> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>>> > 
>>> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition 
>>> > Spring Batch in Action 
>>> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>>> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
>>> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>> 
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
So, there's a tag for 2.5-RC3.

And there are recent commits.

I propose to move the version on trunk back to 2.5-SNAPSHOT, and then
tee up a 2.5-RC4 release from the current state of trunk, rather than
leave all the changes since the RC waiting for another day. Is there a
reason not to do that?


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That might
> require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be a good
> thing to doc on the wiki/site.
>
> G
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>
>> On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
>> > enough permission.
>>
>> Benson,
>>
>> Willing volunteers are always welcome.
>>
>> As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
>>
>> As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
>>
>> Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
>> any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
>> That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
>> (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
>> said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
>> requires PMC membership.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
>> >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can
>> be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >>
>> >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
>> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>> >>
>> >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
>> permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong,
>> as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >>
>> >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
>> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>> >>
>> >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
>> >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
>> >> of people access.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
>> bimargul...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something
>> else?
>> 
>> 
>>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
>> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
>>  step
>> > up or step back in.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
>> bimargul...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
>> >>
>> >>
>> -
>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
>> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>> > 
>> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition 
>> > Spring Batch in Action 
>> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
>> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>> 
>>  -
>>  To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
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>> 
>> >>
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>
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Gary Gregory 
There might be a speed bump when it is time to publish to Nexus. That might
require PMC karma. Same for copying files for pub/sub. That would be a good
thing to doc on the wiki/site.

G

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
> > Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
> > enough permission.
>
> Benson,
>
> Willing volunteers are always welcome.
>
> As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.
>
> As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.
>
> Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
> any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
> That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
> (assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
> said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
> requires PMC membership.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
> >> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can
> be a RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> >>
> >> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA
> permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong,
> as I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >> From: "Benson Margulies" 
> >> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
> >>
> >> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
> >> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
> >> of people access.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
> >>  wrote:
> >>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies <
> bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something
> else?
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
>  step
> > up or step back in.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <
> bimargul...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
> >>
> >>
> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> > 
> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition 
> > Spring Batch in Action 
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> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> 
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Mark Thomas 
On 11/04/2016 18:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
> enough permission.

Benson,

Willing volunteers are always welcome.

As an ASF committer, you already have commit to Commons.

As an ASF Member, you know what is expected.

Crack on and shout if you hit a problem. I should be able to grant you
any karma you need. The only exception is if you need to be on the PMC.
That will trigger a delay of however long it takes us to vote and
(assuming we vote yes) the 72 hours we have to wait for the board. That
said, I don't think there is anything in the release process that
requires PMC membership.

Mark


> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
>> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can be a 
>> RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
>> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>>
>> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA 
>> permissions have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong, as 
>> I have been waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: "Benson Margulies" 
>> To: "Commons Developers List" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>>
>> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
>> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
>> of people access.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
>>  wrote:
>>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else?


 On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory 
 wrote:
> I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
 step
> up or step back in.
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
>
>> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
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> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> 
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition 
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
Well, here we are. I'm willing to help, but you'd have to give me
enough permission.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM,   wrote:
> Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can be a 
> RM, I think additional JIRA permissions are required.
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: dlmar...@comcast.net
> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>
> I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA permissions 
> have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I have been 
> waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release.
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Benson Margulies" 
> To: "Commons Developers List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?
>
> I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
> had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
> of people access.
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
>  wrote:
>> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else?
>>>
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread dlmarion 
Sorry, let me re-phrase: I don't think someone with commit rights can be a RM, 
I think additional JIRA permissions are required. 


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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:09:14 PM 
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5? 

I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA permissions 
have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I have been 
waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release. 


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From: "Benson Margulies"  
To: "Commons Developers List"  
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM 
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5? 

I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just 
had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group 
of people access. 

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman 
 wrote: 
> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC. 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies  
> wrote: 
> 
>> I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else? 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory  
>> wrote: 
>> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to 
>> step 
>> > up or step back in. 
>> > 
>> > Gary 
>> > 
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies > > 
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release. 
>> >> 
>> >> - 
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread dlmarion 
I don't think a non-committer can be a RM as I don't believe JIRA permissions 
have been opened up as well. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I have been 
waiting a long time for a VFS 2.1 release. 


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From: "Benson Margulies"  
To: "Commons Developers List"  
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:48:08 PM 
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5? 

I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just 
had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group 
of people access. 

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman 
 wrote: 
> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC. 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies  
> wrote: 
> 
>> I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else? 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory  
>> wrote: 
>> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to 
>> step 
>> > up or step back in. 
>> > 
>> > Gary 
>> > 
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies > > 
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release. 
>> >> 
>> >> - 
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
I was never a member of the commons PMC, or a voted committer, I just
had commit access (I thought) due to the decision to give a wide group
of people access.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, James Carman
 wrote:
> I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory 
>> wrote:
>> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
>> step
>> > up or step back in.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
>> >>
>> >> -
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread James Carman 
I don't think we take away karma, just membership to the PMC.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM Benson Margulies 
wrote:

> I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory 
> wrote:
> > I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to
> step
> > up or step back in.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
> >>
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
I'm a member emeritus. Can I do it without being voted as something else?


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to step
> up or step back in.
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
>
>> There are bugs marked fixed for years awaiting this release.
>>
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Re: Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Gary Gregory 
I think we got started and staled a while back. We just need an RM to step
up or step back in.

Gary

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Whatever happened to commons-io 2.5?

2016-04-11 Thread Benson Margulies 
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Re: [Math] Feature development model: pull request?

2016-04-11 Thread Gilles 

Hello.

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 08:04:54 -0400, Rob Tompkins wrote:

All,

I was thinking about this some over the weekend. How many of the
contributors (those without commit access to the apache repository),
do you think, will be accessing and submitting code via GitHub pull
request? I ask because GitHub offers a template mechanism for pull
requests.


Impossible to say (statistics is too poor). :-}
But even for one potential contributor, it would be worth to make
the process as simple and clear as possible.


Generally, a pull request is a request to merge a remote branch into
a central branch. What comes along with the merge request is a title
and message as well as an associated comment thread. GitHub currently
accommodates for “templating” the message portion of the pull 
request.

It essentially provides a standardized format for the pull request
message. Further, one can use HTML style comments in the template for
items that we do not wish to be presented in the GitHub user 
interface

(directions and such that we don’t want to show up in the GitHub user
interface). For example, the spring-boot project’s .github 
directory's

(https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/tree/master/.github)
pull request template has the following HTML comment:



Is there any appetite for such an item in the commons-math repo?


It seems like a good idea.  But perhaps others should comment about
any requirements.


If
so I can get a Jira issue started and a pull request in to master &
develop with the changes.


Thanks, but please read
  doc/development/development.howto.txt
The template should NOT assume that the code is to be merged in either
"master" or "develop".
A contribution should be related to a JIRA report and be merged in
an ad-hoc branch before a committer will merge _that_ branch into
"develop".
Now, we can anticipate that for some "trivial" contributions (e.g. a
short documentation fix, or formatting), it would be nice to not have
to make the detour through a new branch.

So I'd propose to prepare:
* one template for trivial changes (into "develop") that do not modify
  the code,
* one template for other changes (specifically _not_ into "develop")
  that _must_ be linked to a JIRA issue.


Regards,
Gilles


All the best,
-Rob




On Apr 8, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Gilles  
wrote:


On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:18:25 +0200, Gilles wrote:

Hello.

Struggling with how to share non-committer contributions:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-1290

At some point, we should have a paragraph in
 doc/development/development.howto.txt
that would explain which steps the contributor and committer must
follow (i.e. one, simple, fool-proof, way) in order to, 
respectively,

create and merge a pull request.


Just noticed that there is a pretty clear recipe here:
 https://github.com/apache/commons-math/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

Regards,
Gilles




Thanks,
Gilles



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Re: [Math] Feature development model: pull request?

2016-04-11 Thread Rob Tompkins 
All,

I was thinking about this some over the weekend. How many of the contributors 
(those without commit access to the apache repository), do you think, will be 
accessing and submitting code via GitHub pull request? I ask because GitHub 
offers a template mechanism for pull requests.

Generally, a pull request is a request to merge a remote branch into a central 
branch. What comes along with the merge request is a title and message as well 
as an associated comment thread. GitHub currently accommodates for “templating” 
the message portion of the pull request. It essentially provides a standardized 
format for the pull request message. Further, one can use HTML style comments 
in the template for items that we do not wish to be presented in the GitHub 
user interface (directions and such that we don’t want to show up in the GitHub 
user interface). For example, the spring-boot project’s .github directory's 
(https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/tree/master/.github) pull 
request template has the following HTML comment:

 

Is there any appetite for such an item in the commons-math repo? If so I can 
get a Jira issue started and a pull request in to master & develop with the 
changes.

All the best,
-Rob




> On Apr 8, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Gilles  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:18:25 +0200, Gilles wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 
>> Struggling with how to share non-committer contributions:
>>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-1290
>> 
>> At some point, we should have a paragraph in
>>  doc/development/development.howto.txt
>> that would explain which steps the contributor and committer must
>> follow (i.e. one, simple, fool-proof, way) in order to, respectively,
>> create and merge a pull request.
> 
> Just noticed that there is a pretty clear recipe here:
>  https://github.com/apache/commons-math/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
> 
> Regards,
> Gilles
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Gilles
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