Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Sure.
Thanks

Wenli


On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:27 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the information, Dave.
> >
> > How can we test the new CDN? Is there a notice Website for the
> information
> > or could you share the IP with us please?
>
> To be clear - please retest the two that have already been tried.
>
> There were performance issues discovered recently with *.apache.org.
> These may have impacted your results.
>
> If you have an offer for an Apache.org mirror in
> China then please discuss on private@. That will take some efforts and
> there are no guarantees.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:54 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi ECharts team,
> >>
> >> Infrastructure has been making changes to the main Apache.com website to
> >> separate out some of the downloading functionality due to stability
> issues.
> >> These may have impacted your experience with the CDNs.
> >>
> >> I think it would be good to perform another test of the two CDNs.
> >>
> >> In addition we can discuss on private@ a mirror proposal which neither
> >> Kevin nor I can approve. Such a proposal would need to be evaluated by
> the
> >> Infrastructure and perhaps Fundraising teams.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>> On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Ovilia, What are the technical steps for the mirror you envision and
> >> I can weigh in more?
> >>> --
> >>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail <
> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail> - 703.798.0171
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:35 AM Ovilia  >> oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Dear mentors,
> >>>
> >>> What else can we do about this? What should we do if we wish to make
> the
> >> mirror site happen?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM SHUANG SU  >> > wrote:
> >>> ---
> >>> GroupA: (
> >> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
> >> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> GroupB: (
> >> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
> >> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> Each test case is repeat several times and the result are roughly
> >> similar.
> >>> It seams that in lots of place http://echarts.apache.org <
> >> http://echarts.apache.org/> works, but sometimes it not stable to get
> the
> >> result,
> >>> and at some place and some time it can not be visited.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --
> >>> Su Shuang (100pah)
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:22, SHUANG SU   >> sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Some of the rough test result is as follows:
> >>>
> >>> GroupA: (
> >>
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >> <
> >>
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >>> )
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> ---
> >>> GroupB: (
> >>
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >> <
> >>
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >>> )
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --
> >>> Su Shuang (100pah)
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:20, SHUANG SU   >> sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to the CDN you provided. Since the CDN have been updated (see
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 <
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436> ), the speed of the
> >> website ( https://echarts.apache.org  )
> >> improved a lot. With the help of browser cache, in my home (at
> Beijing), in
> >> most cases the speed is not fast but acceptable, although some times it
> >> occasionally slow and need retry several times or wait.
> >>>
> >>> But recently I request some one others test the speed (from Shanghai,
> >> Shenzhen, Beijing). Some of them fed back that the speed is good, but
> some
> >> of them say that it take 5~6s to load or even can not load anything
> >> (meanwhile https://www.echartsjs.com  works
> >> fine).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Then I tried to use some website speed testing services to compare the
> >> speed.
> >>> The services include:
> >>>https://www.boce.com/tool 
> >>>http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest 
> >>>https://www.17ce.com/ 
> >>>http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx <
> >> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the information, Dave.
> 
> How can we test the new CDN? Is there a notice Website for the information
> or could you share the IP with us please?

To be clear - please retest the two that have already been tried.

There were performance issues discovered recently with *.apache.org. These may 
have impacted your results.

If you have an offer for an Apache.org mirror in
China then please discuss on private@. That will take some efforts and there 
are no guarantees.

Regards,
Dave
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:54 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi ECharts team,
>> 
>> Infrastructure has been making changes to the main Apache.com website to
>> separate out some of the downloading functionality due to stability issues.
>> These may have impacted your experience with the CDNs.
>> 
>> I think it would be good to perform another test of the two CDNs.
>> 
>> In addition we can discuss on private@ a mirror proposal which neither
>> Kevin nor I can approve. Such a proposal would need to be evaluated by the
>> Infrastructure and perhaps Fundraising teams.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ovilia, What are the technical steps for the mirror you envision and
>> I can weigh in more?
>>> --
>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail <
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail> - 703.798.0171
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:35 AM Ovilia > oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Dear mentors,
>>> 
>>> What else can we do about this? What should we do if we wish to make the
>> mirror site happen?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM SHUANG SU > > wrote:
>>> ---
>>> GroupA: (
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> GroupB: (
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Each test case is repeat several times and the result are roughly
>> similar.
>>> It seams that in lots of place http://echarts.apache.org <
>> http://echarts.apache.org/> works, but sometimes it not stable to get the
>> result,
>>> and at some place and some time it can not be visited.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:22, SHUANG SU > sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Some of the rough test result is as follows:
>>> 
>>> GroupA: (
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> GroupB: (
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:20, SHUANG SU > sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to the CDN you provided. Since the CDN have been updated (see
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436> ), the speed of the
>> website ( https://echarts.apache.org  )
>> improved a lot. With the help of browser cache, in my home (at Beijing), in
>> most cases the speed is not fast but acceptable, although some times it
>> occasionally slow and need retry several times or wait.
>>> 
>>> But recently I request some one others test the speed (from Shanghai,
>> Shenzhen, Beijing). Some of them fed back that the speed is good, but some
>> of them say that it take 5~6s to load or even can not load anything
>> (meanwhile https://www.echartsjs.com  works
>> fine).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then I tried to use some website speed testing services to compare the
>> speed.
>>> The services include:
>>>https://www.boce.com/tool 
>>>http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest 
>>>https://www.17ce.com/ 
>>>http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx <
>> http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx>
>>> The testing URL is:
>>>GroupA:
>>> 
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>> <
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Thanks for the information, Dave.

How can we test the new CDN? Is there a notice Website for the information
or could you share the IP with us please?

Thanks

Wenli


On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:54 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi ECharts team,
>
> Infrastructure has been making changes to the main Apache.com website to
> separate out some of the downloading functionality due to stability issues.
> These may have impacted your experience with the CDNs.
>
> I think it would be good to perform another test of the two CDNs.
>
> In addition we can discuss on private@ a mirror proposal which neither
> Kevin nor I can approve. Such a proposal would need to be evaluated by the
> Infrastructure and perhaps Fundraising teams.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ovilia, What are the technical steps for the mirror you envision and
> I can weigh in more?
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail <
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail> - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:35 AM Ovilia  oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Dear mentors,
> >
> > What else can we do about this? What should we do if we wish to make the
> mirror site happen?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM SHUANG SU  > wrote:
> > ---
> > GroupA: (
> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
> > 
> >
> > ---
> > GroupB: (
> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>)
> > 
> >
> > Each test case is repeat several times and the result are roughly
> similar.
> > It seams that in lots of place http://echarts.apache.org <
> http://echarts.apache.org/> works, but sometimes it not stable to get the
> result,
> > and at some place and some time it can not be visited.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:22, SHUANG SU  sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Some of the rough test result is as follows:
> >
> > GroupA: (
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> <
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >)
> >
> > 
> > ---
> > GroupB: (
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> <
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >)
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:20, SHUANG SU  sushuang0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Thanks to the CDN you provided. Since the CDN have been updated (see
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436> ), the speed of the
> website ( https://echarts.apache.org  )
> improved a lot. With the help of browser cache, in my home (at Beijing), in
> most cases the speed is not fast but acceptable, although some times it
> occasionally slow and need retry several times or wait.
> >
> > But recently I request some one others test the speed (from Shanghai,
> Shenzhen, Beijing). Some of them fed back that the speed is good, but some
> of them say that it take 5~6s to load or even can not load anything
> (meanwhile https://www.echartsjs.com  works
> fine).
> >
> >
> > Then I tried to use some website speed testing services to compare the
> speed.
> > The services include:
> > https://www.boce.com/tool 
> > http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest 
> > https://www.17ce.com/ 
> > http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx <
> http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx>
> > The testing URL is:
> > GroupA:
> >
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> <
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >
> >
> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg <
> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg>
> > GroupB:
> >
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> <
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
> >
> > https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg
> 
> >
> > Some of the test result are listed as follows:
> > (Because the mail system reject the mail bigger than 100k, I have to
> split the email)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

Hi ECharts team,

Infrastructure has been making changes to the main Apache.com website to 
separate out some of the downloading functionality due to stability issues. 
These may have impacted your experience with the CDNs.

I think it would be good to perform another test of the two CDNs.

In addition we can discuss on private@ a mirror proposal which neither Kevin 
nor I can approve. Such a proposal would need to be evaluated by the 
Infrastructure and perhaps Fundraising teams.

Regards,
Dave

> On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ovilia, What are the technical steps for the mirror you envision and I can 
> weigh in more?  
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail  - 
> 703.798.0171
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:35 AM Ovilia  > wrote:
> Dear mentors,
> 
> What else can we do about this? What should we do if we wish to make the 
> mirror site happen?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM SHUANG SU  > wrote:
> ---
> GroupA: (https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg 
> )
> 
> 
> ---
> GroupB: (https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg 
> )
> 
> 
> Each test case is repeat several times and the result are roughly similar.
> It seams that in lots of place http://echarts.apache.org 
>  works, but sometimes it not stable to get the 
> result,
> and at some place and some time it can not be visited.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> --
>  Su Shuang (100pah)
> --
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:22, SHUANG SU  > wrote:
> Some of the rough test result is as follows: 
> 
> GroupA: 
> (https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>  
> )
> 
> 
> ---
> GroupB: 
> (https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>  
> )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> --
>  Su Shuang (100pah)
> --
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:20, SHUANG SU  > wrote:
> Hi Dave, 
> 
> Thanks to the CDN you provided. Since the CDN have been updated (see 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 
>  ), the speed of the 
> website ( https://echarts.apache.org  ) improved 
> a lot. With the help of browser cache, in my home (at Beijing), in most cases 
> the speed is not fast but acceptable, although some times it occasionally 
> slow and need retry several times or wait.
> 
> But recently I request some one others test the speed (from Shanghai, 
> Shenzhen, Beijing). Some of them fed back that the speed is good, but some of 
> them say that it take 5~6s to load or even can not load anything (meanwhile 
> https://www.echartsjs.com  works fine).
> 
> 
> Then I tried to use some website speed testing services to compare the speed.
> The services include: 
> https://www.boce.com/tool 
> http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest 
> https://www.17ce.com/ 
> http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx 
> 
> The testing URL is:
> GroupA:
> 
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
>  
> 
> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg 
> 
> GroupB:
> 
> https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813 
> 
> https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg 
> 
> 
> Some of the test result are listed as follows:
> (Because the mail system reject the mail bigger than 100k, I have to 
> split the email)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> --
>  Su Shuang (100pah)
> --
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 22:56, Dave Fisher  > wrote:
> I have not seen the results of using either CDN compared which is a setup ASF 
> Infra is willing to support, and the guidance ECharts has received.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[SHUANG SU]

Hi Dave,

Thanks to the CDN you provided. Since the CDN have been updated (see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 ), the speed of the
website ( https://echarts.apache.org ) improved a lot. With the help of
browser cache, in my home (at Beijing), in most cases the speed is not fast
but acceptable, although some times it occasionally slow and need retry
several times or wait.

But recently I request some one others test the speed (from Shanghai,
Shenzhen, Beijing). Some of them fed back that the speed is good, but some
of them say that it take 5~6s to load or even can not load anything
(meanwhile https://www.echartsjs.com works fine).


Then I tried to use some website speed testing services to compare the
speed.
The services include:
https://www.boce.com/tool
http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest
https://www.17ce.com/
http://www.webkaka.com/webCheck.aspx
The testing URL is:
GroupA:

https://echarts.apache.org/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
https://echarts.apache.org/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg
GroupB:

https://www.echartsjs.com/en/documents/option-parts/option.json?1578303605813
https://www.echartsjs.com/examples/data/thumb/sunburst-drink.jpg

Some of the test result are listed as follows:
(Because the mail system reject the mail bigger than 100k, I have to
split the email)


Thanks,
--
 Su Shuang (100pah)
--



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 22:56, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> I have not seen the results of using either CDN compared which is a setup
> ASF Infra is willing to support, and the guidance ECharts has received.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:25 AM, Sheng Wu 
> wrote:
> >
> > I heard there are domain names paid and supported by ASF. I am not sure.
> >
> > Does other mentor know about this?
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午4:20写道：
> >
> >> It's currently hosted on a Baidu server maintained by Shuang Su.
> >> Maybe it's more proper to move it to a cloud service like Baidu Cloud or
> >> Ali Cloud or so on, and make PPMC have the full control over that
> account.
> >> As about the cloud service cost, does ASF have support for that, or what
> >> should we do if some of our PPMC wish to pay for it?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Wenli
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM Sheng Wu 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Olivia
> >>>
> >>> Usually, we set the redirect rather than a mirror. Such as
> skywalking.io
> >>> is
> >>> redirected to skywalking.apache.org only.
> >>> But consider your point is more about the speed of the network.
> >>> Could you share where is the content of this mirror hosted? And who is
> >>> managing it? More importantly, is the ASF INFRA controlling it?
> >>>
> >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午2:55写道：
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
> 
>  After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is
> >> helping
>  to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is not
>  accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow.
> 
>  In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of making
> >> a
>  mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com, where
> >> we
>  should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org.
>  I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this
> >>> solution.
>  And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  Wenli
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia  wrote:
> 
> > Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>
> >> Apache SkyWalking
> >> Apache Incubator
> >> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
> >> Zipkin
> >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >>
> >> SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：
> >>
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
>  13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
> >>>
> >>> I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my
> >>> working
> >> place
> >>> and home in Beijing.
> >>> It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not
> >> unacceptable
> >>> in
> >> the
> >>> most place but
> >>> somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> >>>
> >>> Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably
> >> provide
> >>> better speed.
> >>> And I can also test it in different place around China via some
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

I have not seen the results of using either CDN compared which is a setup ASF 
Infra is willing to support, and the guidance ECharts has received.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:25 AM, Sheng Wu  wrote:
> 
> I heard there are domain names paid and supported by ASF. I am not sure.
> 
> Does other mentor know about this?
> 
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
> 
> 
> Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午4:20写道：
> 
>> It's currently hosted on a Baidu server maintained by Shuang Su.
>> Maybe it's more proper to move it to a cloud service like Baidu Cloud or
>> Ali Cloud or so on, and make PPMC have the full control over that account.
>> As about the cloud service cost, does ASF have support for that, or what
>> should we do if some of our PPMC wish to pay for it?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Wenli
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM Sheng Wu 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Olivia
>>> 
>>> Usually, we set the redirect rather than a mirror. Such as skywalking.io
>>> is
>>> redirected to skywalking.apache.org only.
>>> But consider your point is more about the speed of the network.
>>> Could you share where is the content of this mirror hosted? And who is
>>> managing it? More importantly, is the ASF INFRA controlling it?
>>> 
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午2:55写道：
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
 
 After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is
>> helping
 to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is not
 accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow.
 
 In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of making
>> a
 mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com, where
>> we
 should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org.
 I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this
>>> solution.
 And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree.
 
 Thanks
 
 Wenli
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia  wrote:
 
> Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu 
> wrote:
> 
>> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
>> 
>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> 
>> Apache SkyWalking
>> Apache Incubator
>> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
>> Zipkin
>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>> 
>> 
>> SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：
>> 
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my
>>> working
>> place
>>> and home in Beijing.
>>> It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not
>> unacceptable
>>> in
>> the
>>> most place but
>>> somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
>>> 
>>> Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably
>> provide
>>> better speed.
>>> And I can also test it in different place around China via some
>> services.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Su Shuang (100pah)
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi York,
 
 We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
 
 In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the
>> speed
>> before
 and after Weex using this CDN?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Wenli
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen 
>>> wrote:
 
> Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your
>>> request.
> 
> FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait
>> several
 hours
> for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the
>> website.
>> But if
 you
> visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then
>> everything
 takes
> effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the
>> experimental
 CDN.
> 
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
> 
> 申远
> 
> 
> Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> 
>> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
>> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN
>> and
 how
>> we
> could
>> enable it?
>> 
>> Wenli
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, there
>>> 
>>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a
>> committer

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Sheng Wu]

I heard there are domain names paid and supported by ASF. I am not sure.

Does other mentor know about this?

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午4:20写道：

> It's currently hosted on a Baidu server maintained by Shuang Su.
> Maybe it's more proper to move it to a cloud service like Baidu Cloud or
> Ali Cloud or so on, and make PPMC have the full control over that account.
> As about the cloud service cost, does ASF have support for that, or what
> should we do if some of our PPMC wish to pay for it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM Sheng Wu 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Olivia
> >
> > Usually, we set the redirect rather than a mirror. Such as skywalking.io
> > is
> > redirected to skywalking.apache.org only.
> > But consider your point is more about the speed of the network.
> > Could you share where is the content of this mirror hosted? And who is
> > managing it? More importantly, is the ASF INFRA controlling it?
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午2:55写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
> > >
> > > After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is
> helping
> > > to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is not
> > > accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow.
> > >
> > > In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of making
> a
> > > mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com, where
> we
> > > should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org.
> > > I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this
> > solution.
> > > And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>
> > > >> Apache SkyWalking
> > > >> Apache Incubator
> > > >> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
> > > >> Zipkin
> > > >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Dave,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my
> > working
> > > >> place
> > > >> > and home in Beijing.
> > > >> > It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not
> unacceptable
> > in
> > > >> the
> > > >> > most place but
> > > >> > somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably
> > > >> provide
> > > >> > better speed.
> > > >> > And I can also test it in different place around China via some
> > > >> services.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > --
> > > >> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> > > >> > --
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia 
> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi York,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the
> speed
> > > >> before
> > > >> > > and after Weex using this CDN?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Wenli
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen 
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your
> > request.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait
> > > >> several
> > > >> > > hours
> > > >> > > > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the
> website.
> > > >> But if
> > > >> > > you
> > > >> > > > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then
> > > >> everything
> > > >> > > takes
> > > >> > > > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the
> > > >> experimental
> > > >> > > CDN.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >> > > > YorkShen
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 申远
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > > >> > > > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN
> and
> > > how
> > > >> we
> > > >> > > > could
> > > >> > > > > enable it?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Wenli
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >> Hi, there
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> Just noticed you're 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

It's currently hosted on a Baidu server maintained by Shuang Su.
Maybe it's more proper to move it to a cloud service like Baidu Cloud or
Ali Cloud or so on, and make PPMC have the full control over that account.
As about the cloud service cost, does ASF have support for that, or what
should we do if some of our PPMC wish to pay for it?

Thanks

Wenli


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:

> Hi Olivia
>
> Usually, we set the redirect rather than a mirror. Such as skywalking.io
> is
> redirected to skywalking.apache.org only.
> But consider your point is more about the speed of the network.
> Could you share where is the content of this mirror hosted? And who is
> managing it? More importantly, is the ASF INFRA controlling it?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午2:55写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
> >
> > After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is helping
> > to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is not
> > accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow.
> >
> > In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of making a
> > mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com, where we
> > should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org.
> > I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this
> solution.
> > And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
> > >>
> > >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>
> > >> Apache SkyWalking
> > >> Apache Incubator
> > >> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
> > >> Zipkin
> > >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Dave,
> > >> >
> > >> > > 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
> > >> >
> > >> > I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my
> working
> > >> place
> > >> > and home in Beijing.
> > >> > It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable
> in
> > >> the
> > >> > most place but
> > >> > somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> > >> >
> > >> > Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably
> > >> provide
> > >> > better speed.
> > >> > And I can also test it in different place around China via some
> > >> services.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > --
> > >> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> > >> > --
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi York,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed
> > >> before
> > >> > > and after Weex using this CDN?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Wenli
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen 
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your
> request.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait
> > >> several
> > >> > > hours
> > >> > > > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website.
> > >> But if
> > >> > > you
> > >> > > > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then
> > >> everything
> > >> > > takes
> > >> > > > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the
> > >> experimental
> > >> > > CDN.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Best Regards,
> > >> > > > YorkShen
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 申远
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > >> > > > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and
> > how
> > >> we
> > >> > > > could
> > >> > > > > enable it?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Wenli
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Hi, there
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a
> > >> committer
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago,
> > but
> > >> > > > things go
> > >> > > > >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1].
> I
> > >> hope
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > >> could also solve your problem.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Best Regards,
> > >> > > > >> York Shen
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Sheng Wu]

Hi Olivia

Usually, we set the redirect rather than a mirror. Such as skywalking.io is
redirected to skywalking.apache.org only.
But consider your point is more about the speed of the network.
Could you share where is the content of this mirror hosted? And who is
managing it? More importantly, is the ASF INFRA controlling it?

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


Ovilia  于2020年2月18日周二 下午2:55写道：

> Hi,
>
> I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
>
> After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is helping
> to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is not
> accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow.
>
> In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of making a
> mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com, where we
> should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org.
> I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this solution.
> And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia  wrote:
>
> > Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>
> >> Apache SkyWalking
> >> Apache Incubator
> >> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
> >> Zipkin
> >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >>
> >> SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：
> >>
> >> > Hi Dave,
> >> >
> >> > > 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
> >> >
> >> > I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working
> >> place
> >> > and home in Beijing.
> >> > It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in
> >> the
> >> > most place but
> >> > somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> >> >
> >> > Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably
> >> provide
> >> > better speed.
> >> > And I can also test it in different place around China via some
> >> services.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > --
> >> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi York,
> >> > >
> >> > > We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
> >> > >
> >> > > In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed
> >> before
> >> > > and after Weex using this CDN?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks!
> >> > >
> >> > > Wenli
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait
> >> several
> >> > > hours
> >> > > > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website.
> >> But if
> >> > > you
> >> > > > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then
> >> everything
> >> > > takes
> >> > > > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the
> >> experimental
> >> > > CDN.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best Regards,
> >> > > > YorkShen
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 申远
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> >> > > > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and
> how
> >> we
> >> > > > could
> >> > > > > enable it?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Wenli
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Hi, there
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a
> >> committer
> >> > > and
> >> > > > >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago,
> but
> >> > > > things go
> >> > > > >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I
> >> hope
> >> > > this
> >> > > > >> could also solve your problem.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Best Regards,
> >> > > > >> York Shen
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> 申远
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> >> > > > >> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different
> >> countries.
> >> > > > >> > 1. Open google analytics
> >> > > > >> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> >> > > > >> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev
> >> > mailing
> >> > > > >> list,
> >> > > > >> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Wenli
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen <
> shenyi@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > Hi,
> >> > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436

Wenli


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu  wrote:

> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>
> Apache SkyWalking
> Apache Incubator
> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
> Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > > 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
> >
> > I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working
> place
> > and home in Beijing.
> > It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in
> the
> > most place but
> > somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> >
> > Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably
> provide
> > better speed.
> > And I can also test it in different place around China via some services.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi York,
> > >
> > > We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed
> before
> > > and after Weex using this CDN?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
> > > >
> > > > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several
> > > hours
> > > > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But
> if
> > > you
> > > > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything
> > > takes
> > > > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental
> > > CDN.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > > > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how
> we
> > > > could
> > > > > enable it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Wenli
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi, there
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a
> committer
> > > and
> > > > >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> > > > things go
> > > > >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I
> hope
> > > this
> > > > >> could also solve your problem.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best Regards,
> > > > >> York Shen
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 申远
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> > > > >> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> > > > >> > 1. Open google analytics
> > > > >> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> > > > >> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev
> > mailing
> > > > >> list,
> > > > >> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Wenli
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each
> > document
> > > > >> page.
> > > > >> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in
> > > different
> > > > >> regions
> > > > >> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics
> > can't
> > > > do
> > > > >> this
> > > > >> > > kind of thing.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia <
> oviliazh...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks Dave.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on
> 13th
> > > > >> June. [1]
> > > > >> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google
> > > > Analytics
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for
> > > > email,
> > > > >> so
> > > > >> > > > those who don't
> > > > >> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your
> > gmail
> > > > >> account
> > > > >> > > so
> > > > >> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me
> > > know.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this
> data
> > > to
> > > > >> help
> > > > >> > > make
> > > > >> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > [1]
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Sheng Wu]

It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :)

Sheng Wu 吴晟

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SHUANG SU  于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道：

> Hi Dave,
>
> > 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
>
> I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working place
> and home in Beijing.
> It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in the
> most place but
> somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
>
> Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably provide
> better speed.
> And I can also test it in different place around China via some services.
>
>
> Thanks,
> --
>  Su Shuang (100pah)
> --
>
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia  wrote:
>
> > Hi York,
> >
> > We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
> >
> > In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed before
> > and after Weex using this CDN?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen  wrote:
> >
> > > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
> > >
> > > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several
> > hours
> > > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if
> > you
> > > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything
> > takes
> > > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental
> > CDN.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> > >
> > > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
> > > could
> > > > enable it?
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi, there
> > > >>
> > > >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer
> > and
> > > >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> > > things go
> > > >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope
> > this
> > > >> could also solve your problem.
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> > > >>
> > > >> Best Regards,
> > > >> York Shen
> > > >>
> > > >> 申远
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> > > >> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> > > >> > 1. Open google analytics
> > > >> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> > > >> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev
> mailing
> > > >> list,
> > > >> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Wenli
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen 
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each
> document
> > > >> page.
> > > >> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in
> > different
> > > >> regions
> > > >> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics
> can't
> > > do
> > > >> this
> > > >> > > kind of thing.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks Dave.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
> > > >> June. [1]
> > > >> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google
> > > Analytics
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for
> > > email,
> > > >> so
> > > >> > > > those who don't
> > > >> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your
> gmail
> > > >> account
> > > >> > > so
> > > >> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me
> > know.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data
> > to
> > > >> help
> > > >> > > make
> > > >> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > [1]
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Wenli
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher  >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi Wenli,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics
> files. I
> > > >> would
> > > >> > > like
> > > >> > > > > to see the 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 12:33 PM, SHUANG SU  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
> 
> I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working place
> and home in Beijing.
> It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in the
> most place but
> somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.
> 
> Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably provide
> better speed.
> And I can also test it in different place around China via some services.

Yes. Please open a JIRA issue in INFRA with a reference to this email thread.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Su Shuang (100pah)
> --
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia  wrote:
> 
>> Hi York,
>> 
>> We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
>> 
>> In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed before
>> and after Weex using this CDN?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Wenli
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
>>> 
>>> FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several
>> hours
>>> for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if
>> you
>>> visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything
>> takes
>>> effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental
>> CDN.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> YorkShen
>>> 
>>> 申远
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
>>> 
 Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
 Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
>>> could
 enable it?
 
 Wenli
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
 
> Hi, there
> 
> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer
>> and
> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
>>> things go
> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope
>> this
> could also solve your problem.
> 
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> 
> Best Regards,
> York Shen
> 
> 申远
> 
> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
>> 1. Open google analytics
>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>> 
>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> list,
>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>> 
>> Wenli
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
> page.
>>> Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
>>> 
>>> Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in
>> different
> regions
>>> and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't
>>> do
> this
>>> kind of thing.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
> wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Dave.
 
 I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
> June. [1]
> You should have received invitations emails from Google
>>> Analytics
> and
 Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for
>>> email,
> so
 those who don't
 have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> account
>>> so
 that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
 
 If you need any help to access either of them, please let me
>> know.
 
 And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data
>> to
> help
>>> make
 decisions in the following emails.
 
 [1]
 
 
>>> 
> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
 
 Wenli
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
 
> Hi Wenli,
> 
> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> would
>>> like
> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to
>>> make
> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this
>> mailing
> list.
> 
> The community deserves to understand how the project's
>> resources
> are
> monitored.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia >> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a
>> try.
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[SHUANG SU]

Hi Dave,

> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 

I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working place
and home in Beijing.
It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in the
most place but
somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases.

Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably provide
better speed.
And I can also test it in different place around China via some services.


Thanks,
--
 Su Shuang (100pah)
--



On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia  wrote:

> Hi York,
>
> We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.
>
> In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed before
> and after Weex using this CDN?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen  wrote:
>
> > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
> >
> > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several
> hours
> > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if
> you
> > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything
> takes
> > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental
> CDN.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
> >
> > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
> > could
> > > enable it?
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi, there
> > >>
> > >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer
> and
> > >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> > things go
> > >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope
> this
> > >> could also solve your problem.
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >> York Shen
> > >>
> > >> 申远
> > >>
> > >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> > >> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> > >> > 1. Open google analytics
> > >> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> > >> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> > >> list,
> > >> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Wenli
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen 
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
> > >> page.
> > >> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in
> different
> > >> regions
> > >> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't
> > do
> > >> this
> > >> > > kind of thing.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Thanks Dave.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
> > >> June. [1]
> > >> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google
> > Analytics
> > >> and
> > >> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for
> > email,
> > >> so
> > >> > > > those who don't
> > >> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> > >> account
> > >> > > so
> > >> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me
> know.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data
> to
> > >> help
> > >> > > make
> > >> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > [1]
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Wenli
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Wenli,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> > >> would
> > >> > > like
> > >> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to
> > make
> > >> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this
> mailing
> > >> list.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's
> resources
> > >> are
> > >> > > > > monitored.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > > Dave
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Hi York,

We are still testing the speed of the new CDN.

In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed before
and after Weex using this CDN?

Thanks!

Wenli


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen  wrote:

> Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.
>
> FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several hours
> for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if you
> visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything takes
> effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental CDN.
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：
>
> > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
> could
> > enable it?
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, there
> >>
> >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> things go
> >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> >> could also solve your problem.
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> York Shen
> >>
> >> 申远
> >>
> >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> >> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> >> > 1. Open google analytics
> >> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> >> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> >> list,
> >> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >> >
> >> > Wenli
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
> >> page.
> >> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> >> regions
> >> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't
> do
> >> this
> >> > > kind of thing.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Thanks Dave.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
> >> June. [1]
> >> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google
> Analytics
> >> and
> >> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for
> email,
> >> so
> >> > > > those who don't
> >> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> >> account
> >> > > so
> >> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> >> help
> >> > > make
> >> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [1]
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wenli
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Wenli,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> >> would
> >> > > like
> >> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to
> make
> >> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> >> list.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> >> are
> >> > > > > monitored.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > Dave
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> >> similar
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > > Google Analytics.
> >> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji
> and
> >> > > Google
> >> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> >> > > analytics
> >> > > > > of
> >> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> >> misses 50%
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > > page views from China.
> >> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> >> > > > Analytics.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> >> Google
> >> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> >> neither
> >> > > of
> >> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think
> may
> >> not
> >> > > be
> >> > > > a
> >> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Sorry, Dave. I forgot about that...
We will test it now.

Wenli


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:59 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi Wenli,
>
> This may be the same VPN IP address I gave you a few weeks ago. Did you
> test that?
>
> Put this in your hosts file:
> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
> could
> > enable it?
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, there
> >>
> >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> things go
> >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> >> could also solve your problem.
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> York Shen
> >>
> >> 申远
> >>
> >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> >>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> >>> 1. Open google analytics
> >>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> >>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> >> list,
> >>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
> page.
>  Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> 
>  Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> >> regions
>  and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
> >> this
>  kind of thing.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Dave.
> >
> > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
> >> [1]
> >> You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
> >> and
> > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
> >> so
> > those who don't
> > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> >> account
>  so
> > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> >
> > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> >
> > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> >> help
>  make
> > decisions in the following emails.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> 
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Wenli,
> >>
> >> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> >> would
>  like
> >> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> >> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> >> list.
> >>
> >> The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> >> are
> >> monitored.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> >>>
> >>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> >> similar
>  to
> >>> Google Analytics.
> >>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
>  Google
> >>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
>  analytics
> >> of
> >>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> >> misses 50%
> > of
> >>> page views from China.
> >>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > Analytics.
> >>>
> >>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> >> Google
> >>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> >> neither
>  of
> >>> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
> >> not
>  be
> > a
> >>> big issue.
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
>  wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi -
> 
>  No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
> >> JIRA
>  at
> >> this
>  time.
> 
>  The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
> >> which
>  are
>  hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
> >> would
> > like
> >> to
>  see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
> >> list,
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Wenli,

This may be the same VPN IP address I gave you a few weeks ago. Did you test 
that?

Put this in your hosts file:
13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
> enable it?
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, there
>> 
>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
>> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
>> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
>> could also solve your problem.
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> York Shen
>> 
>> 申远
>> 
>> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
>>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
>>> 1. Open google analytics
>>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
>> list,
>>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
 Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
 
 Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
>> regions
 and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
>> this
 kind of thing.
 
 Thanks
 
 On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:
 
> Thanks Dave.
> 
> I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
>> [1]
>> You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
>> and
> Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
>> so
> those who don't
> have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
>> account
 so
> that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> 
> If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> 
> And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
>> help
 make
> decisions in the following emails.
> 
> [1]
> 
> 
 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wenli,
>> 
>> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
>> would
 like
>> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
>> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
>> list.
>> 
>> The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
>> are
>> monitored.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
>>> 
>>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
>> similar
 to
>>> Google Analytics.
>>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
 Google
>>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
 analytics
>> of
>>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
>> misses 50%
> of
>>> page views from China.
>>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> Analytics.
>>> 
>>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
>> Google
>>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
>> neither
 of
>>> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
>> not
 be
> a
>>> big issue.
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
 wrote:
>>> 
 Hi -
 
 No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
>> JIRA
 at
>> this
 time.
 
 The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
>> which
 are
 hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
>> would
> like
>> to
 see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
>> list,
 
 There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
 
 Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
 
 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
 
>> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
 
 Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
>> INFRA to
>> switch
 CDNs.
 
 Regards,
 Dave

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[YorkShen]

Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.

FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several hours
for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if you
visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything takes
effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental CDN.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：

> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
> enable it?
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
>
>> Hi, there
>>
>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
>> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
>> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
>> could also solve your problem.
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> York Shen
>>
>> 申远
>>
>> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
>> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
>> > 1. Open google analytics
>> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
>> list,
>> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>> >
>> > Wenli
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
>> page.
>> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
>> > >
>> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
>> regions
>> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
>> this
>> > > kind of thing.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks Dave.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
>> June. [1]
>> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
>> and
>> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
>> so
>> > > > those who don't
>> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
>> account
>> > > so
>> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
>> > > >
>> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
>> help
>> > > make
>> > > > decisions in the following emails.
>> > > >
>> > > > [1]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
>> > > >
>> > > > Wenli
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Wenli,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
>> would
>> > > like
>> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
>> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
>> list.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
>> are
>> > > > > monitored.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > Dave
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Dave,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
>> similar
>> > > to
>> > > > > > Google Analytics.
>> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
>> > > Google
>> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
>> > > analytics
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
>> misses 50%
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > page views from China.
>> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
>> > > > Analytics.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
>> Google
>> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
>> neither
>> > > of
>> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
>> not
>> > > be
>> > > > a
>> > > > > > big issue.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Wenli
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Hi -
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
>> JIRA
>> > > at
>> > > > > this
>> > > > > >> time.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
>> which
>> > > are
>> > > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
>> would
>> > > > like
>> > > > > to
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
enable it?

Wenli


On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:

> Hi, there
>
> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> could also solve your problem.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>
> Best Regards,
> York Shen
>
> 申远
>
> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> > 1. Open google analytics
> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >
> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> list,
> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> > >
> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> regions
> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
> this
> > > kind of thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Dave.
> > > >
> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
> [1]
> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
> and
> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
> so
> > > > those who don't
> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> account
> > > so
> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > > >
> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> help
> > > make
> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Wenli,
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> would
> > > like
> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> list.
> > > > >
> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> are
> > > > > monitored.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> similar
> > > to
> > > > > > Google Analytics.
> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
> > > Google
> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> > > analytics
> > > > > of
> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> misses 50%
> > > > of
> > > > > > page views from China.
> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > > > Analytics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> Google
> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> neither
> > > of
> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
> not
> > > be
> > > > a
> > > > > > big issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wenli
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi -
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
> JIRA
> > > at
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> time.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
> which
> > > are
> > > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
> would
> > > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
> list,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> > > > > >>
> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
> INFRA to
> > > > > switch
> > > > > >> CDNs.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >> Dave
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Oct 13, 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[York Shen]

Hi, there

Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and PPMC 
member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go well 
after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this could also 
solve your problem.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406

Best Regards,
York Shen

申远

On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote: 
> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> 1. Open google analytics
> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> 
> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing list,
> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
> > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> >
> > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different regions
> > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do this
> > kind of thing.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Dave.
> > >
> > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June. [1]
> > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics and
> > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email, so
> > > those who don't
> > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail account
> > so
> > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > >
> > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> > >
> > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to help
> > make
> > > decisions in the following emails.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Wenli,
> > > >
> > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I would
> > like
> > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources are
> > > > monitored.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> > > > >
> > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar
> > to
> > > > > Google Analytics.
> > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
> > Google
> > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> > analytics
> > > > of
> > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50%
> > > of
> > > > > page views from China.
> > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > > Analytics.
> > > > >
> > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google
> > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither
> > of
> > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not
> > be
> > > a
> > > > > big issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wenli
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi -
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA
> > at
> > > > this
> > > > >> time.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which
> > are
> > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would
> > > like
> > > > to
> > > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> > > > >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to
> > > > switch
> > > > >> CDNs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >> Dave
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month,
> > > probably
> > > > >>> because it's been closed.
> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > > > >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Wenli
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > >  Done.
> > > > 
> > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
1. Open google analytics
2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing list,
so I will skip the screenshot. :)

Wenli


On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
> Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
>
> Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different regions
> and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do this
> kind of thing.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Dave.
> >
> > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June. [1]
> > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics and
> > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email, so
> > those who don't
> > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail account
> so
> > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> >
> > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> >
> > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to help
> make
> > decisions in the following emails.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Wenli,
> > >
> > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I would
> like
> > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing list.
> > >
> > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources are
> > > monitored.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> > > >
> > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar
> to
> > > > Google Analytics.
> > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
> Google
> > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> analytics
> > > of
> > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50%
> > of
> > > > page views from China.
> > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > Analytics.
> > > >
> > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google
> > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither
> of
> > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not
> be
> > a
> > > > big issue.
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi -
> > > >>
> > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA
> at
> > > this
> > > >> time.
> > > >>
> > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which
> are
> > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would
> > like
> > > to
> > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,
> > > >>
> > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> > > >>
> > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> > > >>
> > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> > > >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> > > >>
> > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to
> > > switch
> > > >> CDNs.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month,
> > probably
> > > >>> because it's been closed.
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > > >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Wenli
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> kmcgr...@apache.org
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >  Done.
> > > 
> > >  On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and
> continue
> > > our
> > > > discussion there?
> > > > It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and
> > > with
> > > > email.
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > >
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> > > >>> Thanks, Kevin.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Yi Shen]

Hi,

In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.

Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different regions
and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do this
kind of thing.

Thanks

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:

> Thanks Dave.
>
> I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June. [1]
> > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics and
> Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email, so
> those who don't
> have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail account so
> that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
>
> If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
>
> And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to help make
> decisions in the following emails.
>
> [1]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
> > Hi Wenli,
> >
> > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I would like
> > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing list.
> >
> > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources are
> > monitored.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> > >
> > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar to
> > > Google Analytics.
> > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the analytics
> > of
> > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50%
> of
> > > page views from China.
> > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> Analytics.
> > >
> > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google
> > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither of
> > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not be
> a
> > > big issue.
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi -
> > >>
> > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA at
> > this
> > >> time.
> > >>
> > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which are
> > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would
> like
> > to
> > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,
> > >>
> > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> > >>
> > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> > >>
> > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> > >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> > >>
> > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to
> > switch
> > >> CDNs.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month,
> probably
> > >>> because it's been closed.
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> > >>>
> > >>> Wenli
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Done.
> > 
> >  On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue
> > our
> > > discussion there?
> > > It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and
> > with
> > > email.
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > >
> > > Wenli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail <
> kmcgr...@apache.org
> > >
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> > >>> Thanks, Kevin.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> > >>>
> > >>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu
> but
> > >> need
> > >>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this
> > approach.
> > >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > >>> Wenli
> > >> So the goals I see are:
> > >>
> > >> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF
> > >> Infrastructure
> > >> is goal #1
> > >>
> > >> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN
> to
> > >> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
> > >>
> > >> C) provide a Chinese 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Thanks Dave.

I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June. [1]
> You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics and
Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email, so
those who don't
have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail account so
that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.

If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.

And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to help make
decisions in the following emails.

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E

Wenli


On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi Wenli,
>
> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I would like
> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing list.
>
> The community deserves to understand how the project's resources are
> monitored.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> >
> > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar to
> > Google Analytics.
> > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the analytics
> of
> > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50% of
> > page views from China.
> > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google Analytics.
> >
> > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google
> > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither of
> > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not be a
> > big issue.
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA at
> this
> >> time.
> >>
> >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which are
> >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would like
> to
> >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,
> >>
> >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> >>
> >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> >>
> >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> >>
> >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to
> switch
> >> CDNs.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month, probably
> >>> because it's been closed.
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  Done.
> 
>  On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue
> our
> > discussion there?
> > It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and
> with
> > email.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail  >
>  wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> >>> Thanks, Kevin.
> >>>
> >>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> >>>
> >>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but
> >> need
> >>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this
> approach.
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>> Wenli
> >> So the goals I see are:
> >>
> >> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF
> >> Infrastructure
> >> is goal #1
> >>
> >> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
> >> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
> >>
> >> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
> >> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
> >> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out,
> it
> >> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
> >>
> >> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
> >> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced
>  from
> >> the echarts.apache.org server.
> >>
> >> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that
> >> recommends/links
> >> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have
> issues.
> >>
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Wenli,

I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I would like to 
see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make decisions. I’d 
like to see that discussion occur on this mailing list.

The community deserves to understand how the project's resources are monitored.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> 
> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar to
> Google Analytics.
> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the analytics of
> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50% of
> page views from China.
> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google Analytics.
> 
> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google
> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither of
> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not be a
> big issue.
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA at this
>> time.
>> 
>> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which are
>> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would like to
>> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,
>> 
>> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
>> 
>> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
>> 
>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
>> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
>> 
>> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to switch
>> CDNs.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month, probably
>>> because it's been closed.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Done.
 
 On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue our
> discussion there?
> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and with
> email.
> Thanks!
> 
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail 
 wrote:
> 
>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
>>> Thanks, Kevin.
>>> 
>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
>>> 
>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but
>> need
>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>> Wenli
>> So the goals I see are:
>> 
>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF
>> Infrastructure
>> is goal #1
>> 
>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
>> 
>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
>> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
>> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
>> 
>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced
 from
>> the echarts.apache.org server.
>> 
>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that
>> recommends/links
>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.
>> 
>> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
>> 
>> 
 
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
>> .
>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a
>> download
>> more than an interactive website?
>> 
>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the
>> ASF
>> 
>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
>> which basically means it has to be approved.
>> 
>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> KAM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.

As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar to
Google Analytics.
In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the analytics of
15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50% of
page views from China.
So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google Analytics.

The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google
Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither of
these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not be a
big issue.

Wenli


On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi -
>
> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA at this
> time.
>
> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which are
> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would like to
> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,
>
> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
>
> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
>
> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
>
> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to switch
> CDNs.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> > On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month, probably
> > because it's been closed.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Done.
> >>
> >> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> >>> Hi Kevin,
> >>>
> >>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue our
> >>> discussion there?
> >>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and with
> >>> email.
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> > Thanks, Kevin.
> >
> > I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> >
> > As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but
> need
> > further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > Wenli
>  So the goals I see are:
> 
>  A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF
> Infrastructure
>  is goal #1
> 
>  B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
>  avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
> 
>  C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
>  more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
>  policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
>  is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
> 
>  - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
>  subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced
> >> from
>  the echarts.apache.org server.
> 
>  - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that
> recommends/links
>  using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.
> 
>  - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
> 
> 
> >>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
>  .
>  Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
>  seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a
> download
>  more than an interactive website?
> 
>  - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the
> ASF
> 
>  - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
>  fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
> 
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
>  which basically means it has to be approved.
> 
>  - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
> 
>  Hope this helps,
> 
>  KAM
> 
> 
> 
>  -
>  To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
>  For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
> 
> 
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> >> kmcgr...@apache.org
> >>
> >> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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> >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA at this time.

The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which are hosted by 
Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would like to see a 
discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list,

There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:

Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)

13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 


Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to switch CDNs.

Regards,
Dave


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> 
> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month, probably
> because it's been closed. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
>> Done.
>> 
>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue our
>>> discussion there?
>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and with
>>> email.
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> Thanks, Kevin.
> 
> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> 
> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but need
> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> Wenli
 So the goals I see are:
 
 A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF Infrastructure
 is goal #1
 
 B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
 avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
 
 C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
 more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
 policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
 is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
 
 - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
 subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced
>> from
 the echarts.apache.org server.
 
 - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that recommends/links
 using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.
 
 - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
 
 
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
 .
 Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
 seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a download
 more than an interactive website?
 
 - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the ASF
 
 - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
 fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
 https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
 which basically means it has to be approved.
 
 - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 KAM
 
 
 
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 For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
 
 
>> --
>> Kevin A. McGrail
>> kmcgr...@apache.org
>> 
>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month, probably
because it's been closed. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?

Wenli


On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:

> Done.
>
> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue our
> > discussion there?
> > It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and with
> > email.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> >>> Thanks, Kevin.
> >>>
> >>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> >>>
> >>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but need
> >>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>> Wenli
> >> So the goals I see are:
> >>
> >> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF Infrastructure
> >> is goal #1
> >>
> >> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
> >> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
> >>
> >> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
> >> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
> >> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
> >> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
> >>
> >> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
> >> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced
> from
> >> the echarts.apache.org server.
> >>
> >> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that recommends/links
> >> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.
> >>
> >> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
> >>
> >>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
> >> .
> >> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
> >> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a download
> >> more than an interactive website?
> >>
> >> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the ASF
> >>
> >> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
> >> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
> >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
> >> which basically means it has to be approved.
> >>
> >> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> KAM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> kmcgr...@apache.org
>
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
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>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Done. 

On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue our
> discussion there?
> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and with
> email.
> Thanks!
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>
>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
>>> Thanks, Kevin.
>>>
>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
>>>
>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but need
>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
>>> Wenli
>> So the goals I see are:
>>
>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF Infrastructure
>> is goal #1
>>
>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
>>
>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
>> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
>> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
>>
>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced from
>> the echarts.apache.org server.
>>
>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that recommends/links
>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.
>>
>> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
>>
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
>> .
>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a download
>> more than an interactive website?
>>
>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the ASF
>>
>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
>> which basically means it has to be approved.
>>
>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> KAM
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
>>
>>
-- 
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kmcgr...@apache.org

Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Hi Kevin,

Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue our
discussion there?
It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and with
email.
Thanks!

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919

Wenli


On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:

> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> > Thanks, Kevin.
> >
> > I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> >
> > As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but need
> > further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > Wenli
>
> So the goals I see are:
>
> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF Infrastructure
> is goal #1
>
> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...
>
> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:
>
> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced from
> the echarts.apache.org server.
>
> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that recommends/links
> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.
>
> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
> .
> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a download
> more than an interactive website?
>
> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the ASF
>
> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
> which basically means it has to be approved.
>
> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> KAM
>
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> Thanks, Kevin.
>
> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
>
> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but need
> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> Wenli

So the goals I see are:

A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF Infrastructure
is goal #1

B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN to
avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary...

C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes things
more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about all our
policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps laid out, it
is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide:

- a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a
subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is synced from
the echarts.apache.org server.

- A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that recommends/links
using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have issues.

- Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc.
 
Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a few
seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a download
more than an interactive website?

- Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to the ASF

- If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to follow
fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
which basically means it has to be approved.

- And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this

Hope this helps,

KAM



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Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Thanks, Kevin.

I've updated this information on JIRA [1].

As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu but need
further discussion on the details if we decide to take this approach.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
Wenli


On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:

> I'd recommend two things are done.
>
> One, add the data here to the Jira about the CDN and see if Infra can fix
> the slowness.
>
> Two, I think having a mirror of the site in China running on
> zh.echarts.apache.org makes sense.  Is there a cost issue associated with
> Baidu cloud or is just a policy issue with ASF?
>
> Open a ticket in Jira and ask for Infra input on the 3 plans.  That'll be
> step one.
>
> Sorry this is such a pain.  So much time and resources spent on making a
> website faster but will try and generalize this accross other projects.
>
> Regards,
> KAM
> On 9/4/2019 2:24 AM, Ovilia wrote:
>
> Could our mentors give some information and advice on whether these plans
> are feasible considering the Apache rules?
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:20 PM SHUANG SU  wrote:
>
>>
>> I am afraid that, if just considering the accessibility and speed of the
>> echarts website,
>> comparing these three plans, maybe only "Plan A" is a relatively thorough
>> solution,
>> because in some place or some time of a day, the initial request (that
>> is,
>> https://echarts.apache.org/examples/en/ ) can not get a response or
>> response with a
>> long delay (e.g, more than 20s), in which case users can not get the
>> benefit from the
>> optimization of PlanB and PlanC.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  Su Shuang (100pah)
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 12:24, Ovilia  wrote:
>>
>>> We did a survey about the network problem in China, and 52 volunteers in
>>> different cities in China helped us to test the speed.
>>>
>>> There are 2 out of 52 volunteers who cannot access the Web pages at all.
>>> The overall assess on https://echarts.apache.org is:
>>>
>>> *Good*
>>>
>>> 25%
>>>
>>> *Acceptable*
>>>
>>> 33%
>>>
>>> *Bad*
>>>
>>> 17%
>>>
>>> *Not Acceptable*
>>>
>>> 25%
>>>
>>> The median time for:
>>> 1. home page HTML content loading time: 10s, which is a bit slow but
>>> still acceptable.
>>> 2. document loading time: 20s, which is a bit slow.
>>> 3. example image loading: 10s, which is bad.
>>>
>>> I think the speed problem is still severe since there are 25% think it's
>>> totally unacceptable.
>>> The bottleneck lies in large resource files like a 779KB JSON file in
>>> document page, example thumbnail images of 40KB each.
>>> So here's some suggestions I would like to suggest and discuss with you:
>>>
>>> Plan A. Mirror Site in China
>>> Is it possible for us to use domain names like echartsjs.com or
>>> zh.echartsjs.com to host a mirror site in China?
>>> There should be still a banner for the Apache domain and stating this is
>>> a mirror site.
>>> This can help solve the problem most thoroughly.
>>>
>>> Plan B. Host Hotspot Resources on Cloud
>>> We could consider putting the large JSON files and example thumbnails
>>> images of the Chinese Web pages on Baidu Cloud or other Cloud services.
>>> This will generate some cost of cloud service, which should be further
>>> discussed if we decide to take this approach.
>>>
>>> Plan C. Host Chinese Site on Cloud and Set Domain Name to Be Apache
>>> We can host the Chinses site on a Baidu Cloud, and set the domain name
>>> to be zh.echarts.apache.org.
>>> The Cloud account can be shared with the PPMC.
>>>
>>> Wenli
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:59 PM SHUANG SU  wrote:
>>>
 I get a similarly good result with Shen Yi this morning in my home
 (Beijing Wang Tong).

 But yesterday evening I got a not good result from my home:
 [image: a.png]

 and from my parents home:
 [image: a.png]

 I think I need to keep testing it for a while.

 --
  Su Shuang (100pah)
 --

>>> --
> Kevin A. mcgrailkmcgr...@apache.org
>
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin 
> Projecthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>

[DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

We updated the CDN cache policy to improve Website speed.
The cache time of HTML, images, and videos are set to be one hour.
Other resources like CSS and JS are set to be 30 days because there are
requested with version numbers in HTML so that once it's changed, we can
use the version number to force updating.

We asked four volunteers in China to test the loading speed without local
cache.
One of the four volunteers has absolutely no access to the Apache Website,
both echarts.apache.org and doris.apache.org.
Other three volunteers can access with almost acceptable speed.

I think this is a great step towards transferation.
The next thing we are going to do is to ask more people to test the speed
in China.
If the rate of access is acceptable, we should transfer the Website ASAP.

Another thing to update is that, we have transferred echarts.baidu.com to
echartsjs.com. We hope this could at least let the users know ECharts is
not a product relating to Baidu before we transfer it to the Apache domain.
And the banner linking to echarts.apache.org as talked about in a previous
thread has been online.

Wenli