Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for the same reason as Aaron On 8 Dec 2005, at 19:59, Aaron Mulder wrote: +1 for Jetty -- we've gotten great support from the Jetty team Aaron On 12/8/05, Hernan Cunico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opps, click the wrong button. +1 for Jetty, it would be consistent with the previous default package. Cheers! Hernan Hernan Cunico wrote: Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ X] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for Tomcat.On 12/8/05, Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installershould make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection.Theoperator can always override and select the other.Vote:[] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection[] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'mmaking the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why itshouldn't be.FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed.Manual configuration of both is possiblethough.--Regards,Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for tomcatOn 12/9/05, Vamsavardhana Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Tomcat.On 12/8/05, Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installershould make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection.Theoperator can always override and select the other.Vote:[] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection[] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'mmaking the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why itshouldn't be.FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed.Manual configuration of both is possiblethough.--Regards,Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for Apache Tomcat /Bharath
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for Apache Tomcat /phani On 12/9/05, Bharath Duggirala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Apache Tomcat /Bharath
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for Tomcat, I hope Tomcat team will be more helpful in the future! Thanks Anita --- Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Hrm... odd. Most developers/commiters picking Jetty, and most everyone looks like they want Tomcat. --jason On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
As much as I Looovvve Jetty...I have to vote for the work I did ;-) [ x ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ X] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Opps, click the wrong button. +1 for Jetty, it would be consistent with the previous default package. Cheers! Hernan Hernan Cunico wrote: Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ X] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ X ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 13:08 -0500, Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ x ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection cheers all Jan Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Been waiting for this one... ;-) +1 for Tomcat. I think the decision should be based on what our users want and I've heard more interest expressed for Tomcat. --kevanOn 12/8/05, Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installershould make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection.Theoperator can always override and select the other.Vote:[] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection[] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'mmaking the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why itshouldn't be.FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed.Manual configuration of both is possiblethough.--Regards,Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Erik Daughtrey wrote: [ X] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection As much as I love Jetty I love* Jeff, too, so how I could vote differently ;) [*] Don't get carried away, though, Jeff ;) Jacek
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
This is a good point... Its encouraged that the community vote here too. Although not binding, it should be taken into account. Jeff Kevan Miller wrote: Been waiting for this one... ;-) +1 for Tomcat. I think the decision should be based on what our users want and I've heard more interest expressed for Tomcat. --kevan On 12/8/05, Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik
RE: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ X ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection My vote may not count, but I like Tomcat :) Regards, Rajith Attapattu. -Original Message- From: Jeff Genender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:48 PM To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection This is a good point... Its encouraged that the community vote here too. Although not binding, it should be taken into account. Jeff Kevan Miller wrote: Been waiting for this one... ;-) +1 for Tomcat. I think the decision should be based on what our users want and I've heard more interest expressed for Tomcat. --kevan On 12/8/05, Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [X] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection Regards, Stefan Schmidt We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
RE: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
From a user's point of view, as long as I have a choice, I'm happy - but if my vote does count for anything, here is my vote. [X] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection - Chris -Original Message- From: Erik Daughtrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:08 AM To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [X] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection Thanks Srinath Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [X] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection Regards, Stefan Schmidt We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ X ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection ( Tomcat is the container that users in my environment prefer, probably not for technical reasons though ). Would be nice if in the future we could provide some feature and performance comparisons between the two to help users make an informed choice. John Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ x ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection Simon -- http://bordet.blogspot.com
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ X ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection (this is a user vote -- but this will fit well with tomcat clustering) Best regards, -- Cordialement, Ludo - http://www.ubik-products.com --- L'amour pour principe et l'ordre pour base; le progres pour but (A.Comte)
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[x] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection Jetty's been with us for two years. If it was my project, I'd be pretty disappointed to get dumped the day before the first supported release. Being an optional component is not exactly the thanks I would expect. -David On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
[ x ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection Non binding, but I like Jetty. Besides, given how close to a release it is, it seems sensible to stick with it. - Brett
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
For 1.0, I'd like to see Jetty, reflecting the initial participation and work that the Jetty community did when we got started over two years ago. geir On Dec 8, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:47:34PM -0700, Jeff Genender wrote: Its encouraged that the community vote here too. Although not binding, it should be taken into account. Thanks! [X] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection Jetty's worked out well, let's keep going.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 Tomcat On Dec 8, 2005, at 3:47 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: For 1.0, I'd like to see Jetty, reflecting the initial participation and work that the Jetty community did when we got started over two years ago. geir On Dec 8, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
I have changed my mind, please ignore my previous vote. My vote is now: [ X ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection My initial concerns were with users not familiar with Jetty (e.g. Tomcat users) and the lack of Geronimo documentation on Jetty. I chatted to Greg W on IRC and he said he will improve the documentation. I have raised JIRAs GERONIMO-1314 and GERONIMO-1315. Thinking about it more, those who already use Tomcat in other projects are probably going to click Tomcat if they don't go to the trouble of looking into Jetty. I agree with Aaron that we should make it clear in the documentation that it is only a default to simplify the install process and either container can be used and both are supported. John Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for Apache Tomcat Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ X ] Make Apache Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Ok then based on this... I hope that this group takes into the account of all votes, including those that use the app server, our community and users. If we cannot be neutral, then minimally we should let the users decide what they want as a default container. If everyone wants Jetty as a default, then I am behind it. But if a majority want Tomcat, lets give the community what they want. A vote was put out...lets see what our users want. Jeff John Sisson wrote: I have changed my mind, please ignore my previous vote. My vote is now: [ X ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection My initial concerns were with users not familiar with Jetty (e.g. Tomcat users) and the lack of Geronimo documentation on Jetty. I chatted to Greg W on IRC and he said he will improve the documentation. I have raised JIRAs GERONIMO-1314 and GERONIMO-1315. Thinking about it more, those who already use Tomcat in other projects are probably going to click Tomcat if they don't go to the trouble of looking into Jetty. I agree with Aaron that we should make it clear in the documentation that it is only a default to simplify the install process and either container can be used and both are supported. John Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for Jetty -Brian On Dec 8, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Jeff Genender wrote: Ok then based on this... I hope that this group takes into the account of all votes, including those that use the app server, our community and users. If we cannot be neutral, then minimally we should let the users decide what they want as a default container. If everyone wants Jetty as a default, then I am behind it. But if a majority want Tomcat, lets give the community what they want. A vote was put out...lets see what our users want. Jeff John Sisson wrote: I have changed my mind, please ignore my previous vote. My vote is now: [ X ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection My initial concerns were with users not familiar with Jetty (e.g. Tomcat users) and the lack of Geronimo documentation on Jetty. I chatted to Greg W on IRC and he said he will improve the documentation. I have raised JIRAs GERONIMO-1314 and GERONIMO-1315. Thinking about it more, those who already use Tomcat in other projects are probably going to click Tomcat if they don't go to the trouble of looking into Jetty. I agree with Aaron that we should make it clear in the documentation that it is only a default to simplify the install process and either container can be used and both are supported. John Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though.
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
+1 for jetty david jencks On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Erik Daughtrey wrote: The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: [ ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why it shouldn't be. FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is possible though. -- Regards, Erik
Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection
Looking at the original proposal for geronimo makes me lean towards Tomcat. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo-proposal.html But from a more practical standpoint it's clear that Jetty has a long history of active involvement in the project.[ X ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selectionBest wishes,Paul On 12/8/05, Erik Daughtrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The installershould make either Tomcat or Jetty the default selection.The operator can always override and select the other.Vote:[] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection[] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good reason why itshouldn't be.FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via theinstaller will not be allowed.Manual configuration of both is possible though.--Regards,Erik