Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
Some automated testcases which will make sure Admin Console portlets are not broken: (the ones I can think of immediately from a Deployment perspective:) 1) DB Manager 2) Database Pools 3) Security Realms 4) JMS Resources 5) Plan Creator -- Thanks, Shiva On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am interested in collecting ideas on how we can improve user experience with the geronimo 2.x server, particularly, what type of testing we can do for each geronimo major release to identify probs and resolve them. I think it would be nice to have a set of test (either automated or manually) other than tck that we run to verify various functions in geronimo for each major release. Currently, we probably only run a very small amount of testing other than tck, our automated testing during the build and the few samples we have. One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? The other thought is to grow test cases from our JIRA system or users. Encourage folks to attach/contribute their test cases. Also, what g functions do folks think we need more testing? Thanks, Lin
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
I think we should be able to use Selenium IDE to record a trip through these processes and then insert the recording into testcases in the test suite. Anyone care to investigate? thanks david jencks On Feb 29, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote: That reminds me... Security realms portlet is broken yet again. Editing a realm does not work :( ++Vamsi On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some automated testcases which will make sure Admin Console portlets are not broken: (the ones I can think of immediately from a Deployment perspective:) 1) DB Manager 2) Database Pools 3) Security Realms 4) JMS Resources 5) Plan Creator -- Thanks, Shiva On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am interested in collecting ideas on how we can improve user experience with the geronimo 2.x server, particularly, what type of testing we can do for each geronimo major release to identify probs and resolve them. I think it would be nice to have a set of test (either automated or manually) other than tck that we run to verify various functions in geronimo for each major release. Currently, we probably only run a very small amount of testing other than tck, our automated testing during the build and the few samples we have. One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? The other thought is to grow test cases from our JIRA system or users. Encourage folks to attach/contribute their test cases. Also, what g functions do folks think we need more testing? Thanks, Lin
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
That reminds me... Security realms portlet is broken yet again. Editing a realm does not work :( ++Vamsi On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some automated testcases which will make sure Admin Console portlets are not broken: (the ones I can think of immediately from a Deployment perspective:) 1) DB Manager 2) Database Pools 3) Security Realms 4) JMS Resources 5) Plan Creator -- Thanks, Shiva On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am interested in collecting ideas on how we can improve user experience with the geronimo 2.x server, particularly, what type of testing we can do for each geronimo major release to identify probs and resolve them. I think it would be nice to have a set of test (either automated or manually) other than tck that we run to verify various functions in geronimo for each major release. Currently, we probably only run a very small amount of testing other than tck, our automated testing during the build and the few samples we have. One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? The other thought is to grow test cases from our JIRA system or users. Encourage folks to attach/contribute their test cases. Also, what g functions do folks think we need more testing? Thanks, Lin
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
One suggestion, would be to move the current samples and daytrader branch back into the server builds. That way, we keep them updated and release them as part of a server release. Also, it would allow us to use them as part of the integration testsuite, for hot/console/cmdline deploy testing. -Donald Lin Sun wrote: That's certainly an excellent idea. I am also looking for some popular samples that we feel we should get them running on geronimo as I think those will be good to show people how to get their apps working with geronimo. Lin On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? I think you'd receive more user-focused responses on the user mailing list. Its archive is full of possible samples we could/should cover, but I don't have anything in my mind right now. I'm sure you'll find some there pretty quickly. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
Here are some specific areas that I think we should have more tests for: 1) Command line tools like deploy, client, jaxws-tools, etc. and their gshell counterparts. 2) Deploying applications using the different methods or options: using the command line tools, using the console, hot deploy, offline, in-place, etc. 3) Plugin infrastructure: export a plugin, assemble a server, etc. In general, I think it would be a good exercise to come up with a list of key features of Geronimo and make sure they are well covered by tests. Jarek On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am interested in collecting ideas on how we can improve user experience with the geronimo 2.x server, particularly, what type of testing we can do for each geronimo major release to identify probs and resolve them. I think it would be nice to have a set of test (either automated or manually) other than tck that we run to verify various functions in geronimo for each major release. Currently, we probably only run a very small amount of testing other than tck, our automated testing during the build and the few samples we have. One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? The other thought is to grow test cases from our JIRA system or users. Encourage folks to attach/contribute their test cases. Also, what g functions do folks think we need more testing? Thanks, Lin
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
I agree - great list. I welcome others to add more to the list, especially functions we don't feel work quite well. After collecting everyone's thoughts, I plan to use a wiki page to keep track of the key functions that deserves testing with possible coverage by automation or manual testing. Thx, Lin On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Jarek Gawor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some specific areas that I think we should have more tests for: 1) Command line tools like deploy, client, jaxws-tools, etc. and their gshell counterparts. 2) Deploying applications using the different methods or options: using the command line tools, using the console, hot deploy, offline, in-place, etc. 3) Plugin infrastructure: export a plugin, assemble a server, etc. In general, I think it would be a good exercise to come up with a list of key features of Geronimo and make sure they are well covered by tests. Jarek On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am interested in collecting ideas on how we can improve user experience with the geronimo 2.x server, particularly, what type of testing we can do for each geronimo major release to identify probs and resolve them. I think it would be nice to have a set of test (either automated or manually) other than tck that we run to verify various functions in geronimo for each major release. Currently, we probably only run a very small amount of testing other than tck, our automated testing during the build and the few samples we have. One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? The other thought is to grow test cases from our JIRA system or users. Encourage folks to attach/contribute their test cases. Also, what g functions do folks think we need more testing? Thanks, Lin
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
That's certainly an excellent idea. I am also looking for some popular samples that we feel we should get them running on geronimo as I think those will be good to show people how to get their apps working with geronimo. Lin On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? I think you'd receive more user-focused responses on the user mailing list. Its archive is full of possible samples we could/should cover, but I don't have anything in my mind right now. I'm sure you'll find some there pretty quickly. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: [discuss] How do we improve the user experience of the geronimo server?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thought is to add more test samples. Seems to me people are trying different things with geronimo server and most of the stuff they tried are not covered by our samples.Any ideas what other samples may be good to work with geronimo? I think you'd receive more user-focused responses on the user mailing list. Its archive is full of possible samples we could/should cover, but I don't have anything in my mind right now. I'm sure you'll find some there pretty quickly. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
