Re: Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-14 Thread Robert Kanter
Thanks for letting us know Steve.
In Oozie, it's only included as a test scope dependency and used only for
unit tests, so I think we're good here.


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks Steve. For clarity:

 This message announces a license switch for Greenmail --
 http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/mailman/message/58953/
 However, some/most/all of the src license headers are still labeled as
 LGPL. There would also be general questions about the license switch --
 were all necessary copyrights properly held to make this license switch?
 And subsequent to the switch were all changes/contributions made under
 ALv2?

 Depending on the outcome of these questions, you may or may not want to
 treat the greenmail dependency as LGPL. Assuming it is held to be LGPL,
 then a question of how the dependency is used? Bundling an LGPL dependency
 is bad. Direct source linkage to LGPL, likewise. Simple build / test maven
 dependency would be OK from an ASF perspective...


 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.
 
  We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares
  its license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers
 in
  its source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent
  commit containing this depedency.
 
  I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four
 Apache
  projects include source code that links to the greenmail library:
  Syncope, OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM
  that includes a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any
 current
  releases containing this dependency.  Details are posted on 
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate
 your
  project's involvement.
 
  An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
  year asking for clarification 
 http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
  but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for
 that
  matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some
 time.
 
  Steve
 



Re: Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-14 Thread kelly
Same with Aapche OODT. We use it soley in the test scope to ensure our IMAP 
handling works.

--k

On 2014-07-14, at 1:21 PM, Robert Kanter rkan...@cloudera.com wrote:

 Thanks for letting us know Steve.
 In Oozie, it's only included as a test scope dependency and used only for
 unit tests, so I think we're good here.
 
 
 On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks Steve. For clarity:
 
 This message announces a license switch for Greenmail --
 http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/mailman/message/58953/
 However, some/most/all of the src license headers are still labeled as
 LGPL. There would also be general questions about the license switch --
 were all necessary copyrights properly held to make this license switch?
 And subsequent to the switch were all changes/contributions made under
 ALv2?
 
 Depending on the outcome of these questions, you may or may not want to
 treat the greenmail dependency as LGPL. Assuming it is held to be LGPL,
 then a question of how the dependency is used? Bundling an LGPL dependency
 is bad. Direct source linkage to LGPL, likewise. Simple build / test maven
 dependency would be OK from an ASF perspective...
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.
 
 We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares
 its license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers
 in
 its source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent
 commit containing this depedency.
 
 I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four
 Apache
 projects include source code that links to the greenmail library:
 Syncope, OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM
 that includes a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any
 current
 releases containing this dependency.  Details are posted on 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate
 your
 project's involvement.
 
 An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
 year asking for clarification 
 http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
 but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for
 that
 matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some
 time.
 
 Steve
 
 



Re: Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-13 Thread Alan Cabrera

On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 i am the author and IP holder of the javamail mock2 library which
 maybe can be used an as alternative for greenmail here.
 Its not exactly doing what greenmail is doing (mock2 is mocking
 javamail classes like Folder, Transport, Store and so on and does not
 emulate a mailserver on the protocol level) but normally this doesn't
 matter.
 I am also willing to donate the stuff to apache incubator if its
 considered to be worthy and useful.
 
 Library is here: https://github.com/salyh/javamail-mock2 (AL License)

Awesome!  If the library is published to maven.org, and I see that it is, then 
the only work ahead is to port our tests to it.   Would you be interested in 
helping?

I do notice that it's still in beta.  When do you anticipate a regular 
release?  I don't think that this would stop us from porting our tests but as a 
user of the project I'm just curious.

Finally, there's no need for you to go to through the Incubator for use to use 
your project in our tests.  However, there's no reason to for you to not go 
there if you think you could grow a nice healthy community around it.


Regards,
Alan

 
 Thanks
 Hendrik
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.
 
 We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares its
 license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers in its
 source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent commit
 containing this depedency.
 
 I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four Apache
 projects include source code that links to the greenmail library: Syncope,
 OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM that includes
 a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any current releases
 containing this dependency.  Details are posted on
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate your
 project's involvement.
 
 An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
 year asking for clarification http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
 but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for that
 matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some time.
 
 Steve
 
 
 
 -- 
 Hendrik Saly (salyh, hendrikdev22)
 @hendrikdev22
 PGP: 0x22D7F6EC



Re: Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-13 Thread Hendrik Dev
Hi Alan,

sure, i am glad if i can help you porting the tests.
Its beta because its new and not really proven.
If you don't have a problem with that there it is a chance for the lib
to mature which i would grab.

Regards
Hendrik




On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 i am the author and IP holder of the javamail mock2 library which
 maybe can be used an as alternative for greenmail here.
 Its not exactly doing what greenmail is doing (mock2 is mocking
 javamail classes like Folder, Transport, Store and so on and does not
 emulate a mailserver on the protocol level) but normally this doesn't
 matter.
 I am also willing to donate the stuff to apache incubator if its
 considered to be worthy and useful.

 Library is here: https://github.com/salyh/javamail-mock2 (AL License)

 Awesome!  If the library is published to maven.org, and I see that it is, 
 then the only work ahead is to port our tests to it.   Would you be 
 interested in helping?

 I do notice that it's still in beta.  When do you anticipate a regular 
 release?  I don't think that this would stop us from porting our tests but as 
 a user of the project I'm just curious.

 Finally, there's no need for you to go to through the Incubator for use to 
 use your project in our tests.  However, there's no reason to for you to not 
 go there if you think you could grow a nice healthy community around it.


 Regards,
 Alan


 Thanks
 Hendrik


 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.

 We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares its
 license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers in its
 source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent commit
 containing this depedency.

 I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four Apache
 projects include source code that links to the greenmail library: Syncope,
 OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM that includes
 a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any current releases
 containing this dependency.  Details are posted on
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate your
 project's involvement.

 An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
 year asking for clarification http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
 but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for that
 matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some time.

 Steve



 --
 Hendrik Saly (salyh, hendrikdev22)
 @hendrikdev22
 PGP: 0x22D7F6EC




-- 
Hendrik Saly (salyh, hendrikdev22)
@hendrikdev22
PGP: 0x22D7F6EC


Re: Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-13 Thread Kevan Miller
Thanks Steve. For clarity:

This message announces a license switch for Greenmail --
http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/mailman/message/58953/
However, some/most/all of the src license headers are still labeled as
LGPL. There would also be general questions about the license switch --
were all necessary copyrights properly held to make this license switch?
And subsequent to the switch were all changes/contributions made under ALv2?

Depending on the outcome of these questions, you may or may not want to
treat the greenmail dependency as LGPL. Assuming it is held to be LGPL,
then a question of how the dependency is used? Bundling an LGPL dependency
is bad. Direct source linkage to LGPL, likewise. Simple build / test maven
dependency would be OK from an ASF perspective...


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.

 We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares
 its license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers in
 its source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent
 commit containing this depedency.

 I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four Apache
 projects include source code that links to the greenmail library:
 Syncope, OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM
 that includes a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any current
 releases containing this dependency.  Details are posted on 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate your
 project's involvement.

 An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
 year asking for clarification http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
 but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for that
 matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some time.

 Steve



Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-12 Thread Steve Rowe
Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.

We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares
its license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers in
its source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent
commit containing this depedency.

I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four Apache
projects include source code that links to the greenmail library:
Syncope, OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM
that includes a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any current
releases containing this dependency.  Details are posted on 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate your
project's involvement.

An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
year asking for clarification http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for that
matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some time.

Steve


Re: Your project uses a possibly LGPL dependency: com.icegreen.greenmail:greenmail

2014-07-12 Thread Hendrik Dev
Hi,

i am the author and IP holder of the javamail mock2 library which
maybe can be used an as alternative for greenmail here.
Its not exactly doing what greenmail is doing (mock2 is mocking
javamail classes like Folder, Transport, Store and so on and does not
emulate a mailserver on the protocol level) but normally this doesn't
matter.
I am also willing to donate the stuff to apache incubator if its
considered to be worthy and useful.

Library is here: https://github.com/salyh/javamail-mock2 (AL License)

Thanks
Hendrik


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, my name is Steve Rowe, and I'm a member of the Apache Lucene PMC.

 We recently discovered that the greenmail Java library, which declares its
 license as ASLv2 in its POM and elsewhere, has LGPL license headers in its
 source code files.  In response the Lucene project reverted a recent commit
 containing this depedency.

 I conducted a survey of current Apache releases and found that four Apache
 projects include source code that links to the greenmail library: Syncope,
 OODT, Oozie and Geronimo.  Additionally, Axis2 has a Maven POM that includes
 a greenmail dependency, though I couldn't find any current releases
 containing this dependency.  Details are posted on
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-206; I would appreciate your
 project's involvement.

 An issue was filed with the greenmail project on Sourceforge earlier this
 year asking for clarification http://sourceforge.net/p/greenmail/bugs/8/,
 but there has been no response on that issue, or any other issue, for that
 matter - the project may be dead, as it has seen no activity for some time.

 Steve



-- 
Hendrik Saly (salyh, hendrikdev22)
@hendrikdev22
PGP: 0x22D7F6EC