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Jan Høydahl commented on LUCENE-7696:
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Yea, looks like the archive normally stays as-is, and that's fine I guess,
People only go there if they explicitly look for old versions. For the archive
I'll follow-up with Nutch to ask if they want to write a few words on their
download site about the oldest releases being found in the lucene area.
I'll rewrite the issue description to focus on the dist area and the mirrors
that people normally see, e.g. http://www.apache.org/dist/lucene/
Here, hadoop is no longer there, but mahout, nutch and tika folders are
{{.htaccess}} redirects. Assuming these are no longer needed, I plan to remove
them.
> Remove ancient projects from the dist area
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>
> Key: LUCENE-7696
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7696
> Project: Lucene - Core
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: general/website
>Reporter: Jan Høydahl
> Labels: archive, dist, download
>
> In https://archive.apache.org/dist/lucene/ we have these folders:
> {noformat}
> [DIR] hadoop/ 2008-01-22 23:40-
> [DIR] java/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] mahout/ 2015-02-17 20:27-
> [DIR] nutch/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [DIR] pylucene/ 2017-02-13 22:00-
> [DIR] solr/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] tika/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [ ] KEYS2016-08-30 09:59 148K
> {noformat}
> Nobody will expect to find hadoop, mahout, nutch and tika here anymore, so
> why not clean up?
> I double checked, and both https://archive.apache.org/dist/hadoop/core/ and
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/mahout/ have a full copy of all releases, so
> we lose nothing.
> For https://archive.apache.org/dist/nutch/, they do not have 0.6-0.8 releases
> that we have under lucene, and https://archive.apache.org/dist/tika/ do not
> have v0.2-0.7 that only exists with us. For these two projects we could ask
> their PMC to copy over the early versions and then we nuk'em?
> Any other reason to keep these in the lucene area?
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Hoss Man commented on LUCENE-7696:
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The archive is, by design, suppose to be a permanent archive of everything ever
released, at the path where it was released. I'm not sure if we (lucene) even
have a mechanism to remove things from it -- pretty sure only infra has that
power?
(Not saying cleanup wouldn't be nice, just saying i don't think there's much we
can do about it other then filing an INFRA request)
> Remove ancient projects from the dist area
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-7696
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7696
> Project: Lucene - Core
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: general/website
>Reporter: Jan Høydahl
> Labels: archive, dist, download
>
> In https://archive.apache.org/dist/lucene/ we have these folders:
> {noformat}
> [DIR] hadoop/ 2008-01-22 23:40-
> [DIR] java/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] mahout/ 2015-02-17 20:27-
> [DIR] nutch/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [DIR] pylucene/ 2017-02-13 22:00-
> [DIR] solr/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] tika/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [ ] KEYS2016-08-30 09:59 148K
> {noformat}
> Nobody will expect to find hadoop, mahout, nutch and tika here anymore, so
> why not clean up?
> I double checked, and both https://archive.apache.org/dist/hadoop/core/ and
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/mahout/ have a full copy of all releases, so
> we lose nothing.
> For https://archive.apache.org/dist/nutch/, they do not have 0.6-0.8 releases
> that we have under lucene, and https://archive.apache.org/dist/tika/ do not
> have v0.2-0.7 that only exists with us. For these two projects we could ask
> their PMC to copy over the early versions and then we nuk'em?
> Any other reason to keep these in the lucene area?
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Jan Høydahl commented on LUCENE-7696:
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Important to note that the mirrors and the main Apache dist site
http://www.apache.org/dist/lucene/ have a {{.htaccess}} redirect for mahout,
nutch and tika, and do not contain hadoop at all. So it is only those that dig
for archived versions inside dist/lucene that will ever land here, no route
from the TLP sites...
The Hadoop TLP issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1477
The Mahout TLP issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2643
The Tika TLP issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2692 but it
does not mention archives
The Nutch TLP issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2693, no
discussion about archives
Suggest I start by sending an email to private@ for Tika, then see what they
say before we tackle the other projects.
> Remove ancient projects from the dist area
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-7696
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7696
> Project: Lucene - Core
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: general/website
>Reporter: Jan Høydahl
> Labels: archive, dist, download
>
> In https://archive.apache.org/dist/lucene/ we have these folders:
> {noformat}
> [DIR] hadoop/ 2008-01-22 23:40-
> [DIR] java/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] mahout/ 2015-02-17 20:27-
> [DIR] nutch/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [DIR] pylucene/ 2017-02-13 22:00-
> [DIR] solr/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] tika/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [ ] KEYS2016-08-30 09:59 148K
> {noformat}
> Nobody will expect to find hadoop, mahout, nutch and tika here anymore, so
> why not clean up?
> I double checked, and both https://archive.apache.org/dist/hadoop/core/ and
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/mahout/ have a full copy of all releases, so
> we lose nothing.
> For https://archive.apache.org/dist/nutch/, they do not have 0.6-0.8 releases
> that we have under lucene, and https://archive.apache.org/dist/tika/ do not
> have v0.2-0.7 that only exists with us. For these two projects we could ask
> their PMC to copy over the early versions and then we nuk'em?
> Any other reason to keep these in the lucene area?
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Steve Rowe commented on LUCENE-7696:
+1 for your plan, Jan, thanks.
> Remove ancient projects from the dist area
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-7696
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7696
> Project: Lucene - Core
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: general/website
>Reporter: Jan Høydahl
> Labels: archive, dist, download
>
> In https://archive.apache.org/dist/lucene/ we have these folders:
> {noformat}
> [DIR] hadoop/ 2008-01-22 23:40-
> [DIR] java/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] mahout/ 2015-02-17 20:27-
> [DIR] nutch/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [DIR] pylucene/ 2017-02-13 22:00-
> [DIR] solr/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] tika/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [ ] KEYS2016-08-30 09:59 148K
> {noformat}
> Nobody will expect to find hadoop, mahout, nutch and tika here anymore, so
> why not clean up?
> I double checked, and both https://archive.apache.org/dist/hadoop/core/ and
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/mahout/ have a full copy of all releases, so
> we lose nothing.
> For https://archive.apache.org/dist/nutch/, they do not have 0.6-0.8 releases
> that we have under lucene, and https://archive.apache.org/dist/tika/ do not
> have v0.2-0.7 that only exists with us. For these two projects we could ask
> their PMC to copy over the early versions and then we nuk'em?
> Any other reason to keep these in the lucene area?
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Jan Høydahl commented on LUCENE-7696:
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One clear reason to move stuff over is that Nutch and Tika do not point to the
earliest releases in {{lucene}} from their download pages at all, so their
history is not complete.
> Remove ancient projects from the dist area
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-7696
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7696
> Project: Lucene - Core
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: general/website
>Reporter: Jan Høydahl
> Labels: archive, dist, download
>
> In https://archive.apache.org/dist/lucene/ we have these folders:
> {noformat}
> [DIR] hadoop/ 2008-01-22 23:40-
> [DIR] java/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] mahout/ 2015-02-17 20:27-
> [DIR] nutch/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [DIR] pylucene/ 2017-02-13 22:00-
> [DIR] solr/ 2017-02-14 08:33-
> [DIR] tika/ 2015-02-17 20:29-
> [ ] KEYS2016-08-30 09:59 148K
> {noformat}
> Nobody will expect to find hadoop, mahout, nutch and tika here anymore, so
> why not clean up?
> I double checked, and both https://archive.apache.org/dist/hadoop/core/ and
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/mahout/ have a full copy of all releases, so
> we lose nothing.
> For https://archive.apache.org/dist/nutch/, they do not have 0.6-0.8 releases
> that we have under lucene, and https://archive.apache.org/dist/tika/ do not
> have v0.2-0.7 that only exists with us. For these two projects we could ask
> their PMC to copy over the early versions and then we nuk'em?
> Any other reason to keep these in the lucene area?
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