Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-31 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
ok, let me know when the space @ Apache will be in sync to the one in
codehaus and when the one in codehaus will be in RO or removed.
I'll start to cleanup its content.

Cheers,

Arnaud Héritier
Software Factory Manager
eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
---
http://www.aheritier.net


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:

 Sure, not a problem.

 On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

  Jason van Zyl wrote:
  On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
  On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
  Arnaud,
 
  If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be
 planned then help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
  and
 
  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
  There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if
 we culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be
 easier for people to see what can be done.
 
  I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
  This was already migrated to:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 
 
  I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your migration?
 
  It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
  Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and the
  search engines, time to update any links to it.
 
  With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate at:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
  - Brett
 
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-31 Thread Jason van Zyl
I believe it is in sync, and I removed most of the content from the front page 
of the Codehaus space and ask Ben to put in place the redirect.

If you work out of here:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN

I would just leave most of the old proposals in 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD/Home. When people are 
prepared to work on them they can migrate them over or if folks have new stuff 
they can work in the new space.

On 2009-12-31, at 3:55 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 ok, let me know when the space @ Apache will be in sync to the one in
 codehaus and when the one in codehaus will be in RO or removed.
 I'll start to cleanup its content.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:
 
 Sure, not a problem.
 
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 
 Jason van Zyl wrote:
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
 Arnaud,
 
 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be
 planned then help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
 and
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if
 we culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be
 easier for people to see what can be done.
 
 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 
 
 I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your migration?
 
 It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
 Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and the
 search engines, time to update any links to it.
 
 With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
 - Brett
 
 --
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 br...@apache.org
 http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-31 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
ok cool
I'll try to start to work on them this WE (Yes, I know I'm a nolife)
I cannot edit pages, nor administrate the space.
If someone can give me privileges.
Thx.

Arnaud Héritier
Software Factory Manager
eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
---
http://www.aheritier.net


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:

 I believe it is in sync, and I removed most of the content from the front
 page of the Codehaus space and ask Ben to put in place the redirect.

 If you work out of here:

 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN

 I would just leave most of the old proposals in
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD/Home. When people are
 prepared to work on them they can migrate them over or if folks have new
 stuff they can work in the new space.

 On 2009-12-31, at 3:55 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

  ok, let me know when the space @ Apache will be in sync to the one in
  codehaus and when the one in codehaus will be in RO or removed.
  I'll start to cleanup its content.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Arnaud Héritier
  Software Factory Manager
  eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
  ---
  http://www.aheritier.net
 
 
  On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com
 wrote:
 
  Sure, not a problem.
 
  On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 
  Jason van Zyl wrote:
  On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
  On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
  Arnaud,
 
  If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be
  planned then help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
  and
 
  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
  There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and
 if
  we culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it
 would be
  easier for people to see what can be done.
 
  I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have
  Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
  This was already migrated to:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 
 
  I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your
 migration?
 
  It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
  Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and
 the
  search engines, time to update any links to it.
 
  With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate
 at:
  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
  - Brett
 
  --
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  br...@apache.org
  http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-31 Thread Brett Porter

On 01/01/2010, at 2:54 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 ok cool
 I'll try to start to work on them this WE (Yes, I know I'm a nolife)
 I cannot edit pages, nor administrate the space.
 If someone can give me privileges.
 Thx.

Done

 
 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:
 
 I believe it is in sync, and I removed most of the content from the front
 page of the Codehaus space and ask Ben to put in place the redirect.
 
 If you work out of here:
 
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
 I would just leave most of the old proposals in
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD/Home. When people are
 prepared to work on them they can migrate them over or if folks have new
 stuff they can work in the new space.
 
 On 2009-12-31, at 3:55 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
 
 ok, let me know when the space @ Apache will be in sync to the one in
 codehaus and when the one in codehaus will be in RO or removed.
 I'll start to cleanup its content.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com
 wrote:
 
 Sure, not a problem.
 
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 
 Jason van Zyl wrote:
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
 Arnaud,
 
 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be
 planned then help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
 and
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and
 if
 we culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it
 would be
 easier for people to see what can be done.
 
 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 
 
 I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your
 migration?
 
 It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
 Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and
 the
 search engines, time to update any links to it.
 
 With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate
 at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
 - Brett
 
 --
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 br...@apache.org
 http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-31 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
Thank you and happy new year !!!

Arnaud

On Thursday, December 31, 2009, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote:

 On 01/01/2010, at 2:54 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 ok cool
 I'll try to start to work on them this WE (Yes, I know I'm a nolife)
 I cannot edit pages, nor administrate the space.
 If someone can give me privileges.
 Thx.

 Done


 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net


 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:

 I believe it is in sync, and I removed most of the content from the front
 page of the Codehaus space and ask Ben to put in place the redirect.

 If you work out of here:

 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN

 I would just leave most of the old proposals in
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD/Home. When people are
 prepared to work on them they can migrate them over or if folks have new
 stuff they can work in the new space.

 On 2009-12-31, at 3:55 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 ok, let me know when the space @ Apache will be in sync to the one in
 codehaus and when the one in codehaus will be in RO or removed.
 I'll start to cleanup its content.

 Cheers,

 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net


 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com
 wrote:

 Sure, not a problem.

 On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

 Jason van Zyl wrote:
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

 Arnaud,

 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be
 planned then help cleanup this Confluence page:

 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home

 and

 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals

 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and
 if
 we culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it
 would be
 easier for people to see what can be done.

 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.

 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD


 I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your
 migration?

 It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
 Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and
 the
 search engines, time to update any links to it.

 With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate
 at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/M

-- 
Arnaud Héritier
Software Factory Manager
eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
---
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-31 Thread Brett Porter

On 01/01/2010, at 5:33 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 Thank you and happy new year !!!

And to you too :)

I've reimported the latest space so everything should be ready to go now. I'll 
clean up a bit when I get back this afternoon.

- Brett


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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2009-12-30, at 3:57 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 Hi,
 
  I think there is no change in maven 3.0 about settings.xml ?

There are no changes in settings.xml. There will be no changes in settings.xml 
for 3.0 at this point.

  Actually there are several problems (from my point of view) :
  * Mirrors don't support something to catch all releases repo or all
 snasphots repo.
  ** It creates a problem because you have to use a unique group in repo
 managers and then you download SNAPSHOTs versions for CLI plugins.
  ** Using repoIDs for mirror is unusable because repoIDs aren't unique
  * Profiles are confusing and can be source of problems if they are badly
 used. Moreover many things have to be put in profiles (repositories for
 example) whereas it could be outside.
  * There is no inheritance/mixins mechanisms to share settings accross an
 organization / a company / a project thus it is difficult to deploy/keep up
 to date them
 

There's already a proposal for much of this. I know Brian wanted to talk about 
it so I'll leave that to him. Regardless this is unlikely to change between now 
and 3.0.

  Not really related to settings but to the infrastructure and how maven
 works we talked several times about having several local repositories. The
 most interesting feature was to have one dedicated for each build and
 binaries was moved to another when all the project was build. It could allow
 to have a form of transaction in the build to not install a part of a
 project and having inconsistencies. (The problem also exists for deployment

The infrastructure for having multiple local repositories is already 
implemented in the core. This was to simplify IDE integration primarily but 
would allow multiple local repositories if you wanted on only for snapshots 
versus releases.

 - how could we deploy all binaries only when the project is entirely built).

This will also not be terribly hard to fix but is a major behavioural change 
and will require quite a bit of testing.

 
 
  I'm pushing all those questions because you are reviewing our backlog and
 I don't know if some of these remarks are already filled in Jira.

We're not going to anything until it's cleaned up. It's probably pretty near 
impossible for anyone with only 20 minutes to find anything. Our website, JIRA 
and Confluence are all not very well organized. So as part of the 3.0 the code, 
testing, and visibility to the outside world is primarily what I'm going to 
focus. I think the only sane thing to do is try to move people forward to a 
well tested replacement for the 2.x line which is a dead end.

 
  Cheers,
 
 
 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
Arnaud,

If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be planned then 
help cleanup this Confluence page:

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home

and

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals

There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if we 
culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be 
easier for people to see what can be done.

On 2009-12-30, at 3:57 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 Hi,
 
  I think there is no change in maven 3.0 about settings.xml ?
  Actually there are several problems (from my point of view) :
  * Mirrors don't support something to catch all releases repo or all
 snasphots repo.
  ** It creates a problem because you have to use a unique group in repo
 managers and then you download SNAPSHOTs versions for CLI plugins.
  ** Using repoIDs for mirror is unusable because repoIDs aren't unique
  * Profiles are confusing and can be source of problems if they are badly
 used. Moreover many things have to be put in profiles (repositories for
 example) whereas it could be outside.
  * There is no inheritance/mixins mechanisms to share settings accross an
 organization / a company / a project thus it is difficult to deploy/keep up
 to date them
 
  Not really related to settings but to the infrastructure and how maven
 works we talked several times about having several local repositories. The
 most interesting feature was to have one dedicated for each build and
 binaries was moved to another when all the project was build. It could allow
 to have a form of transaction in the build to not install a part of a
 project and having inconsistencies. (The problem also exists for deployment
 - how could we deploy all binaries only when the project is entirely built).
 
 
  I'm pushing all those questions because you are reviewing our backlog and
 I don't know if some of these remarks are already filled in Jira.
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
 eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
 ---
 http://www.aheritier.net

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Brett Porter
On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

 Arnaud,
 
 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be planned then 
 help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
 and
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if we 
 culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be 
 easier for people to see what can be done.


I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have Codehaus 
confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.

This was already migrated to:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD

With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate at:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN

- Brett

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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
 Arnaud,
 
 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be planned then 
 help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
 and
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if we 
 culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be 
 easier for people to see what can be done.
 
 
 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have 
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 

I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your migration?

 With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
 - Brett
 
 --
 Brett Porter
 br...@apache.org
 http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Jason van Zyl wrote:
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

 Arnaud,

 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be planned 
 then help cleanup this Confluence page:

 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home

 and

 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals

 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if we 
 culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be 
 easier for people to see what can be done.

 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have 
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.

 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD

 
 I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your migration?

It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and the
search engines, time to update any links to it.

 With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN

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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Brett Porter

On 31/12/2009, at 10:46 AM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

 Jason van Zyl wrote:
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
 Arnaud,
 
 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be planned 
 then help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
 and
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if we 
 culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be 
 easier for people to see what can be done.
 
 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have 
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 
 
 I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your migration?

Looks like there have been a few modifications, and I wanted to do a better job 
matching up user names. Let me see if I can reimport it again and I'll drop Ben 
an email.

 
 It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
 Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and the
 search engines, time to update any links to it.

Yep, I agree. I think we can point the redirect at the new wiki - if the page 
is migrated directly it should give a hit, and if not, Confluence will 
recommend the closest matching (including anything in the OLD space). There 
shouldn't be a need to copy over content that isn't current / reviewed.

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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
Sure, not a problem.

On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

 Jason van Zyl wrote:
 On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
 
 On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
 
 Arnaud,
 
 If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be planned 
 then help cleanup this Confluence page:
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
 
 and
 
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals
 
 There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below and if we 
 culled out the dead stuff and things that have been done then it would be 
 easier for people to see what can be done.
 
 I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't have 
 Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the front page.
 
 This was already migrated to:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD
 
 
 I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your migration?
 
 It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the whole
 Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us, and the
 search engines, time to update any links to it.
 
 With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean slate at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN
 
 - Brett
 
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 http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
can we remember to update the do not use this wiki wiki to point to  
cwiki as well (wiki.apache.org)


Sent from my [rhymes with tryPod] ;-)

On 30 Dec 2009, at 23:59, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:


Sure, not a problem.

On 2009-12-30, at 6:46 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:


Jason van Zyl wrote:

On 2009-12-30, at 6:34 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 31/12/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:


Arnaud,

If you really want to help to let people see what's going to be  
planned then help cleanup this Confluence page:


http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home

and

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/All+Proposals

There are bits and pieces of all that you've talked about below  
and if we culled out the dead stuff and things that have been  
done then it would be easier for people to see what can be done.


I thought I'd made those readonly, but remember now that I don't  
have Codehaus confluence admin privs. I've added a notice on the  
front page.


This was already migrated to:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVENOLD



I can ask Ben to just shut this down. Are you done with your  
migration?


It would be good if it's possible to have a redirect page for the  
whole
Codehaus wiki, that points to the new location. That'll give us,  
and the

search engines, time to update any links to it.

With the intent of migrating anything meaningful into a clean  
slate at:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN

- Brett

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Re: Maven 3.? and settings and more

2009-12-30 Thread Brett Porter

On 31/12/2009, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:

 can we remember to update the do not use this wiki wiki to point to cwiki 
 as well (wiki.apache.org)

I'll go one better: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2408

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