Re: Sisu Plexus release?

2024-05-12 Thread Eclipse Management Office EMO
Dear all,
the Eclipse Sisu project has not been engaging in our regular EDP processes
regarding releases. Seeing that the project is overdue for a review, I've
scheduled the following:
https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/emo-team/emo/-/issues/740
Please subscribe to the issue to stay up-to-date regarding the EMO feedback
that will be provided in the upcoming days.
Kind regards,
Maria Teresa Delgado

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:58 AM Christoph Läubrich 
wrote:

> Hi Tamás,
>
> According to [1] there is no planned release, I also see now milestones
> [2] or something planned here [3], maybe it would help to just create a
> Github Milestone and assign issues/prs to it so people can see how
> far/close a possible release currently is?
>
> Beside that, everything is fine from my side, I just wanted to jump in
> and help in case there is a problem with the project unable to actually
> do a release, if the (sisu) mailinglist is not appropriate to ask
> questions maybe you want to enable github discussion we made some good
> experience with that in the eclipse-platform and related projects.
>
> best
> Christoph
>
> [1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
> [2] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/milestones
> [3] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/releases
>
>
> Am 08.05.24 um 09:04 schrieb Tamás Cservenák:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Olivier, I find this quite interesting, that according to you doing an
> > Eclipse release (even M one) is "just push a few buttons and run
> > something for a minute".
> > On the other hand, on Slack you educate Christoph about the "Apache way".
> > Please calm down and remain respectful.
> >
> > Your PR [1] has been reviewed by Sisu project lead (Stuart McCulloch) and
> > is merged. All is fine.
> >
> > The problem is in the "release must happen RIGHT NOW" stance of yours
> (for
> > whatever reason).
> > No Sisu committer will or can throw away everything they currently do (or
> > planned to do), just to make Sisu release happen, as you ask for it.
> > We are doing our best, and release for sure will happen soonish, as there
> > are several merged, but also several ongoing changes to be done yet (see
> > open PRs).
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/pull/52
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:55 AM Christoph Läubrich 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Olivier,
> >>
> >> I'm not 100% sure about the sisu[1] problem at Eclipse BUT usually there
> >> is no need for a vote or similar but from tiem to time there is a
> >> release or progress review. If I look here
> >> https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who you have 100%
> >> commits over the last three month, so it would make sense that @Konrad
> >> Windszus or @cstamas simply start a committer vote to make you a
> >> committer of the project, after that I would (if Stuart is non
> >> responsive anymore) start a Project Lead election for either any of you,
> >> at that point you then can do what ever is required (even though any
> >> committer can technically perform a release or ask for a release review
> >> some actions might require a Project Lead approval e.g. pushing to
> >> central), if you have any questions regarding Eclipse process you can
> >> ask the Eclipse EMO (e...@eclipse.org added as CC).
> >>
> >> If you need any help I can offer to give some help from my experience in
> >> other Eclipse Projects, at a first glance looking at the release page[1]
> >> a release review seems overdue but I'm not an expert on this specific
> >> topic, it just wont hurt to schedule one just to be sure.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> Christoph
> >>
> >> [1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu
> >> [2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
> >>
> >> Am 07.05.24 um 23:23 schrieb Olivier Lamy:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part
> >> anymore.
> >>> It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
> >>> for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
> >>> discuss again, of course)
> >>> I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer
> >> yet.
> >>> I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
> >>> There is an email about a possible process
> >>> (https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
> >>> I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
> >>> process etc.
> >>> So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
> >>> m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
> >>> project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).
> >>>
> >>> If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
> >>> where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
> >>> releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>> Olivier
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  Bt

Re: Sisu Plexus release?

2024-05-08 Thread Christoph Läubrich

Hi Tamás,

According to [1] there is no planned release, I also see now milestones 
[2] or something planned here [3], maybe it would help to just create a 
Github Milestone and assign issues/prs to it so people can see how 
far/close a possible release currently is?


Beside that, everything is fine from my side, I just wanted to jump in 
and help in case there is a problem with the project unable to actually 
do a release, if the (sisu) mailinglist is not appropriate to ask 
questions maybe you want to enable github discussion we made some good 
experience with that in the eclipse-platform and related projects.


best
Christoph

[1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
[2] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/milestones
[3] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/releases


Am 08.05.24 um 09:04 schrieb Tamás Cservenák:

Howdy,

Olivier, I find this quite interesting, that according to you doing an
Eclipse release (even M one) is "just push a few buttons and run
something for a minute".
On the other hand, on Slack you educate Christoph about the "Apache way".
Please calm down and remain respectful.

Your PR [1] has been reviewed by Sisu project lead (Stuart McCulloch) and
is merged. All is fine.

The problem is in the "release must happen RIGHT NOW" stance of yours (for
whatever reason).
No Sisu committer will or can throw away everything they currently do (or
planned to do), just to make Sisu release happen, as you ask for it.
We are doing our best, and release for sure will happen soonish, as there
are several merged, but also several ongoing changes to be done yet (see
open PRs).

[1] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/pull/52

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:55 AM Christoph Läubrich 
wrote:


Hi Olivier,

I'm not 100% sure about the sisu[1] problem at Eclipse BUT usually there
is no need for a vote or similar but from tiem to time there is a
release or progress review. If I look here
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who you have 100%
commits over the last three month, so it would make sense that @Konrad
Windszus or @cstamas simply start a committer vote to make you a
committer of the project, after that I would (if Stuart is non
responsive anymore) start a Project Lead election for either any of you,
at that point you then can do what ever is required (even though any
committer can technically perform a release or ask for a release review
some actions might require a Project Lead approval e.g. pushing to
central), if you have any questions regarding Eclipse process you can
ask the Eclipse EMO (e...@eclipse.org added as CC).

If you need any help I can offer to give some help from my experience in
other Eclipse Projects, at a first glance looking at the release page[1]
a release review seems overdue but I'm not an expert on this specific
topic, it just wont hurt to schedule one just to be sure.

HTH
Christoph

[1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu
[2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance

Am 07.05.24 um 23:23 schrieb Olivier Lamy:

Hi,
Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part

anymore.

It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
discuss again, of course)
I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer

yet.

I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
There is an email about a possible process
(https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
process etc.
So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).

If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.

regards
Olivier


On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák 

wrote:


Btw, I feel really strange to have to explain to a long term maven
contributor, that he can do maven release whenever he feels so

T

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM Tamás Cservenák 

wrote:



Howdy,

I think you reversed the question... 3.9.7 was done and ready to go

until

you stepped in.

IMHO the real question is:
Is your issue (using overloaded methods in mojo config) really so

urgent

to halt 3.9.7 release?
What is the problem with doing 3.9.8 maybe even two weeks later?


Thanks
T

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:45 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:


Is 3.9.7 really so urgent?
Maybe we can wait a couple of days.
I have been asking the sisu dev mailing list for a release.
This should not be too long.
I can see you are in the committers list
(https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who) with
Konrad so maybe you can help to expedite this?

regards
Olivier


O

Re: Sisu Plexus release?

2024-05-08 Thread Olivier Lamy
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 17:04, Tamás Cservenák  wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Olivier, I find this quite interesting, that according to you doing an
> Eclipse release (even M one) is "just push a few buttons and run
> something for a minute".
> On the other hand, on Slack you educate Christoph about the "Apache way".
> Please calm down and remain respectful.

As I said, I tried to search for any process or vote with the last
release, and I could not find anything.
That's why it's my conclusion.
By the way, I cannot see anything non-respectful in the approach about
trying to figure out how a major piece of our stack is managed.


>
> Your PR [1] has been reviewed by Sisu project lead (Stuart McCulloch) and
> is merged. All is fine.
>
> The problem is in the "release must happen RIGHT NOW" stance of yours (for
> whatever reason).
> No Sisu committer will or can throw away everything they currently do (or
> planned to do), just to make Sisu release happen, as you ask for it.
> We are doing our best, and release for sure will happen soonish, as there
> are several merged, but also several ongoing changes to be done yet (see
> open PRs).
>
> [1] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/pull/52
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:55 AM Christoph Läubrich 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Olivier,
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure about the sisu[1] problem at Eclipse BUT usually there
> > is no need for a vote or similar but from tiem to time there is a
> > release or progress review. If I look here
> > https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who you have 100%
> > commits over the last three month, so it would make sense that @Konrad
> > Windszus or @cstamas simply start a committer vote to make you a
> > committer of the project, after that I would (if Stuart is non
> > responsive anymore) start a Project Lead election for either any of you,
> > at that point you then can do what ever is required (even though any
> > committer can technically perform a release or ask for a release review
> > some actions might require a Project Lead approval e.g. pushing to
> > central), if you have any questions regarding Eclipse process you can
> > ask the Eclipse EMO (e...@eclipse.org added as CC).
> >
> > If you need any help I can offer to give some help from my experience in
> > other Eclipse Projects, at a first glance looking at the release page[1]
> > a release review seems overdue but I'm not an expert on this specific
> > topic, it just wont hurt to schedule one just to be sure.
> >
> > HTH
> > Christoph
> >
> > [1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu
> > [2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
> >
> > Am 07.05.24 um 23:23 schrieb Olivier Lamy:
> > > Hi,
> > > Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part
> > anymore.
> > > It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
> > > for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
> > > discuss again, of course)
> > > I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer
> > yet.
> > > I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
> > > There is an email about a possible process
> > > (https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
> > > I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
> > > process etc.
> > > So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
> > > m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
> > > project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).
> > >
> > > If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
> > > where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
> > > releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Btw, I feel really strange to have to explain to a long term maven
> > >> contributor, that he can do maven release whenever he feels so
> > >>
> > >> T
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM Tamás Cservenák 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Howdy,
> > >>>
> > >>> I think you reversed the question... 3.9.7 was done and ready to go
> > until
> > >>> you stepped in.
> > >>>
> > >>> IMHO the real question is:
> > >>> Is your issue (using overloaded methods in mojo config) really so
> > urgent
> > >>> to halt 3.9.7 release?
> > >>> What is the problem with doing 3.9.8 maybe even two weeks later?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> T
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:45 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Is 3.9.7 really so urgent?
> >  Maybe we can wait a couple of days.
> >  I have been asking the sisu dev mailing list for a release.
> >  This should not be too long.
> >  I can see you are in the committers list
> >  (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who) with
> >  Konrad so maybe you can help to expedite this?
> > 
> >  r

Re: Sisu Plexus release?

2024-05-08 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Howdy,

Olivier, I find this quite interesting, that according to you doing an
Eclipse release (even M one) is "just push a few buttons and run
something for a minute".
On the other hand, on Slack you educate Christoph about the "Apache way".
Please calm down and remain respectful.

Your PR [1] has been reviewed by Sisu project lead (Stuart McCulloch) and
is merged. All is fine.

The problem is in the "release must happen RIGHT NOW" stance of yours (for
whatever reason).
No Sisu committer will or can throw away everything they currently do (or
planned to do), just to make Sisu release happen, as you ask for it.
We are doing our best, and release for sure will happen soonish, as there
are several merged, but also several ongoing changes to be done yet (see
open PRs).

[1] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/pull/52

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:55 AM Christoph Läubrich 
wrote:

> Hi Olivier,
>
> I'm not 100% sure about the sisu[1] problem at Eclipse BUT usually there
> is no need for a vote or similar but from tiem to time there is a
> release or progress review. If I look here
> https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who you have 100%
> commits over the last three month, so it would make sense that @Konrad
> Windszus or @cstamas simply start a committer vote to make you a
> committer of the project, after that I would (if Stuart is non
> responsive anymore) start a Project Lead election for either any of you,
> at that point you then can do what ever is required (even though any
> committer can technically perform a release or ask for a release review
> some actions might require a Project Lead approval e.g. pushing to
> central), if you have any questions regarding Eclipse process you can
> ask the Eclipse EMO (e...@eclipse.org added as CC).
>
> If you need any help I can offer to give some help from my experience in
> other Eclipse Projects, at a first glance looking at the release page[1]
> a release review seems overdue but I'm not an expert on this specific
> topic, it just wont hurt to schedule one just to be sure.
>
> HTH
> Christoph
>
> [1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu
> [2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
>
> Am 07.05.24 um 23:23 schrieb Olivier Lamy:
> > Hi,
> > Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part
> anymore.
> > It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
> > for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
> > discuss again, of course)
> > I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer
> yet.
> > I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
> > There is an email about a possible process
> > (https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
> > I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
> > process etc.
> > So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
> > m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
> > project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).
> >
> > If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
> > where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
> > releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.
> >
> > regards
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Btw, I feel really strange to have to explain to a long term maven
> >> contributor, that he can do maven release whenever he feels so
> >>
> >> T
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM Tamás Cservenák 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Howdy,
> >>>
> >>> I think you reversed the question... 3.9.7 was done and ready to go
> until
> >>> you stepped in.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO the real question is:
> >>> Is your issue (using overloaded methods in mojo config) really so
> urgent
> >>> to halt 3.9.7 release?
> >>> What is the problem with doing 3.9.8 maybe even two weeks later?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> T
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:45 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >>>
>  Is 3.9.7 really so urgent?
>  Maybe we can wait a couple of days.
>  I have been asking the sisu dev mailing list for a release.
>  This should not be too long.
>  I can see you are in the committers list
>  (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who) with
>  Konrad so maybe you can help to expedite this?
> 
>  regards
>  Olivier
> 
> 
>  On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 21:05, Tamás Cservenák 
> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Maven 3.9.7 was ready to be released 3 days ago and contains multiple
>  fixes
> > contributed by non committers.
> >
> > MNG-8116 was added 2 days ago. I really see no reason to be blocked,
> to
> > "stop and wait" for a bugfix, as we can always spin 3.9.8.
> > Releases are cheap, and can be done whenever we (anyone of us) feels
>  right
> > to do so...
> >
> > 3.9.7 is not 

Re: Sisu Plexus release?

2024-05-07 Thread Christoph Läubrich

Hi Olivier,

I'm not 100% sure about the sisu[1] problem at Eclipse BUT usually there 
is no need for a vote or similar but from tiem to time there is a 
release or progress review. If I look here 
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who you have 100% 
commits over the last three month, so it would make sense that @Konrad 
Windszus or @cstamas simply start a committer vote to make you a 
committer of the project, after that I would (if Stuart is non 
responsive anymore) start a Project Lead election for either any of you, 
at that point you then can do what ever is required (even though any 
committer can technically perform a release or ask for a release review 
some actions might require a Project Lead approval e.g. pushing to 
central), if you have any questions regarding Eclipse process you can 
ask the Eclipse EMO (e...@eclipse.org added as CC).


If you need any help I can offer to give some help from my experience in 
other Eclipse Projects, at a first glance looking at the release page[1] 
a release review seems overdue but I'm not an expert on this specific 
topic, it just wont hurt to schedule one just to be sure.


HTH
Christoph

[1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu
[2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance

Am 07.05.24 um 23:23 schrieb Olivier Lamy:

Hi,
Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part anymore.
It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
discuss again, of course)
I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer yet.
I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
There is an email about a possible process
(https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
process etc.
So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).

If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.

regards
Olivier


On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák  wrote:


Btw, I feel really strange to have to explain to a long term maven
contributor, that he can do maven release whenever he feels so

T

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM Tamás Cservenák  wrote:


Howdy,

I think you reversed the question... 3.9.7 was done and ready to go until
you stepped in.

IMHO the real question is:
Is your issue (using overloaded methods in mojo config) really so urgent
to halt 3.9.7 release?
What is the problem with doing 3.9.8 maybe even two weeks later?


Thanks
T

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:45 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:


Is 3.9.7 really so urgent?
Maybe we can wait a couple of days.
I have been asking the sisu dev mailing list for a release.
This should not be too long.
I can see you are in the committers list
(https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who) with
Konrad so maybe you can help to expedite this?

regards
Olivier


On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 21:05, Tamás Cservenák  wrote:


Howdy,

Maven 3.9.7 was ready to be released 3 days ago and contains multiple

fixes

contributed by non committers.

MNG-8116 was added 2 days ago. I really see no reason to be blocked, to
"stop and wait" for a bugfix, as we can always spin 3.9.8.
Releases are cheap, and can be done whenever we (anyone of us) feels

right

to do so...

3.9.7 is not the "last Maven 3.9.x" or anything like that, to have a

"now

or never" situation. Just spin 3.9.8 whenever you think is ready.

My 5 cents
T

On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 2:14 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:


Hi
Can we please integrate

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-8116

The fix is ready and really simple.

thanks
Olivier

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 07:12, Tamás Cservenák 

wrote:


Howdy,

This is just a short newsflash about upcoming planned releases

related to

Maven.

Recently we got a huge spike in plugin releases, with various fixes

and

improvements. I will not enumerate all of them here, just use `mvn
versions:display-plugin-updates` to pick them up ;)
(and more plugins to come).

What I do want to share is about our upcoming Maven releases...

Maven 3.9.7 is nearing (read: coming soon), and will have an

important

Resolver update and other important fixes. Most importantly, the

file-locks

are getting nice improvement (feedback VERY welcome).

Maven 3.9.7 issues:




https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.9.7


Resolver 1.9.19 issues (mostly bug fixes):




https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%201.9.19


At the same time, we plan to release Maven Daemon (m39) as well, to

have

it

aligned with Maven 

Sisu Plexus release?

2024-05-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hi,
Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part anymore.
It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
discuss again, of course)
I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer yet.
I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
There is an email about a possible process
(https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
process etc.
So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).

If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.

regards
Olivier


On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák  wrote:
>
> Btw, I feel really strange to have to explain to a long term maven
> contributor, that he can do maven release whenever he feels so
>
> T
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM Tamás Cservenák  wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I think you reversed the question... 3.9.7 was done and ready to go until
> > you stepped in.
> >
> > IMHO the real question is:
> > Is your issue (using overloaded methods in mojo config) really so urgent
> > to halt 3.9.7 release?
> > What is the problem with doing 3.9.8 maybe even two weeks later?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > T
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:45 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >
> >> Is 3.9.7 really so urgent?
> >> Maybe we can wait a couple of days.
> >> I have been asking the sisu dev mailing list for a release.
> >> This should not be too long.
> >> I can see you are in the committers list
> >> (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who) with
> >> Konrad so maybe you can help to expedite this?
> >>
> >> regards
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 21:05, Tamás Cservenák  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Howdy,
> >> >
> >> > Maven 3.9.7 was ready to be released 3 days ago and contains multiple
> >> fixes
> >> > contributed by non committers.
> >> >
> >> > MNG-8116 was added 2 days ago. I really see no reason to be blocked, to
> >> > "stop and wait" for a bugfix, as we can always spin 3.9.8.
> >> > Releases are cheap, and can be done whenever we (anyone of us) feels
> >> right
> >> > to do so...
> >> >
> >> > 3.9.7 is not the "last Maven 3.9.x" or anything like that, to have a
> >> "now
> >> > or never" situation. Just spin 3.9.8 whenever you think is ready.
> >> >
> >> > My 5 cents
> >> > T
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 2:14 AM Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi
> >> > > Can we please integrate
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-8116
> >> > > The fix is ready and really simple.
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks
> >> > > Olivier
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 07:12, Tamás Cservenák 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Howdy,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is just a short newsflash about upcoming planned releases
> >> related to
> >> > > > Maven.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Recently we got a huge spike in plugin releases, with various fixes
> >> and
> >> > > > improvements. I will not enumerate all of them here, just use `mvn
> >> > > > versions:display-plugin-updates` to pick them up ;)
> >> > > > (and more plugins to come).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What I do want to share is about our upcoming Maven releases...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Maven 3.9.7 is nearing (read: coming soon), and will have an
> >> important
> >> > > > Resolver update and other important fixes. Most importantly, the
> >> > > file-locks
> >> > > > are getting nice improvement (feedback VERY welcome).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Maven 3.9.7 issues:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.9.7
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Resolver 1.9.19 issues (mostly bug fixes):
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%201.9.19
> >> > > >
> >> > > > At the same time, we plan to release Maven Daemon (m39) as well, to
> >> have
> >> > > it
> >> > > > aligned with Maven 3,9,7: with many bug fixes and
> >> improvements/alignments
> >> > > > to "how Maven 3 behave". Our goal is to make the two (mvn and mvnd)
> >> > > > interchangeable on workstations.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Next, Maven 4 is turning beta, so the next release will be beta1!
> >> And
> >> > > > again, same thing for Maven Damon (m40), we will have a release
> >> that will
> >> > > > include Maven 4 beta-1.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Maven 4 beta-1
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%204.0.0-beta-1
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Resolver 2.0.0 (currently alpha-11, will become beta after Maven4
> >> beta-1
> >> > > > release):
> >> > >