Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-03 Thread Brett Porter

 OK, let me see what I can do!!
 

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MASSEMBLY-40

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- Brett

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archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread dan tran
Hi every one,


I would like introduce archiver-maven-plugin.  It is a cut down version of
maven-assembly-plugin with the following functionalities.


  1. Smaller feature scope - compression/archiving only

  2. Descriptor's objects are exposed through plugin's configuration.
 This way, we can take advantage of expression processing provided by
the POM.


  3. Install and deploy are thru artifact attachments.


  4. No direct DependencySet support, user can use dependency-maven-plugin
instead.


I am still struggling to decide if spinning this plugin off
maven-assembly-plugin,
is a good idea.  However by cutting down feature scope, the plugin will be
very
stable in the long term.

Suggestions?

Thanks

-Dan


Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread Brett Porter
dan tran wrote:
   2. Descriptor's objects are exposed through plugin's configuration.
  This way, we can take advantage of expression processing provided by
 the POM.
   
I think we need to introduce this to the assembly plugin anyway.

 I am still struggling to decide if spinning this plugin off
 maven-assembly-plugin,
 is a good idea.  However by cutting down feature scope, the plugin will be
 very
 stable in the long term.
   
What is the benefit of having a limited feature set if the assembly
plugin is able to do this? I don't quite see the reasoning.

- Brett

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Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread dan tran
On 1/2/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dan tran wrote:
2. Descriptor's objects are exposed through plugin's configuration.
   This way, we can take advantage of expression processing provided
 by
  the POM.
 
 I think we need to introduce this to the assembly plugin anyway.


Sound good, is it thru a seperate mojo?


  I am still struggling to decide if spinning this plugin off
  maven-assembly-plugin,
  is a good idea.  However by cutting down feature scope, the plugin will
 be
  very
  stable in the long term.
 
 What is the benefit of having a limited feature set if the assembly
 plugin is able to do this? I don't quite see the reasoning.


I think most  user need is the capablity to assembly files and dendencies
together.
This is exactly archiver-maven-plugin provides ( exception the dependencies
).
The maven-assembly-plugin has a rich set of features that I think It will
take for ever
to release.


- Brett

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Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread Brett Porter
dan tran wrote:
 On 1/2/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dan tran wrote:
   2. Descriptor's objects are exposed through plugin's configuration.
  This way, we can take advantage of expression processing provided
 by
 the POM.

 I think we need to introduce this to the assembly plugin anyway.
 
 
 Sound good, is it thru a seperate mojo?

No, I think the existing mojo needs to interpolate the descriptor.

 I think most  user need is the capablity to assembly files and dendencies
 together.
 This is exactly archiver-maven-plugin provides ( exception the dependencies
 ).
 The maven-assembly-plugin has a rich set of features that I think It will
 take for ever
 to release.

I still don't understand. The assembly plugin is already released! :)
Do you mean the wait for the 2.1 release?

- Brett

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Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread dan tran
On 1/2/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dan tran wrote:
  On 1/2/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  dan tran wrote:
2. Descriptor's objects are exposed through plugin's configuration.
   This way, we can take advantage of expression processing provided
  by
  the POM.
 
  I think we need to introduce this to the assembly plugin anyway.
 
 
  Sound good, is it thru a seperate mojo?

 No, I think the existing mojo needs to interpolate the descriptor.



OK, let me see what I can do!!

 I think most  user need is the capablity to assembly files and dendencies
  together.
  This is exactly archiver-maven-plugin provides ( exception the
 dependencies
  ).
  The maven-assembly-plugin has a rich set of features that I think It
 will
  take for ever
  to release.

 I still don't understand. The assembly plugin is already released! :)
 Do you mean the wait for the 2.1 release?


It has been 2 and half months. ;-)  Is it time a for a new release?

Any how, I agree that It does not look right when there are 2 similar
plugins.


- Brett

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Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread Jason van Zyl

dan tran wrote:


I still don't understand. The assembly plugin is already released! :)
Do you mean the wait for the 2.1 release?



It has been 2 and half months. ;-)  Is it time a for a new release?

Any how, I agree that It does not look right when there are 2 similar
plugins.


Agreed, I think the assembly plugin should be able to perform simple 
tasks as well and another plugin with similiar capabilities would just 
be confusing not to mention a maintenance problem.




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Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

2006-01-02 Thread dan tran
Hi Brian,

Assembly now can do that.  Just bind assembly:attached mojo to
package phase.  However this feature is not fully functional yet.
Please check JIRA.

-Dan

On 1/2/06, Brian E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can the assembly plugin take part in the normal lifecycle in the current
 release (in the past it couldn't)? As I see it, that is a stumbling
 block for a lot of people. If this can't or won't be changed, then
 spinning off some limited functionality into a separate mojo may make
 sense.

 -Original Message-
 From: dan tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:28 AM
 To: Maven Developers List
 Subject: Re: archiver-maven-plugin?

 On 1/2/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  dan tran wrote:
   On 1/2/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   dan tran wrote:
 2. Descriptor's objects are exposed through plugin's
 configuration.
This way, we can take advantage of expression processing
   provided
   by
   the POM.
  
   I think we need to introduce this to the assembly plugin anyway.
  
  
   Sound good, is it thru a seperate mojo?
 
  No, I think the existing mojo needs to interpolate the descriptor.



 OK, let me see what I can do!!

  I think most  user need is the capablity to assembly files and
  dendencies
   together.
   This is exactly archiver-maven-plugin provides ( exception the
  dependencies
   ).
   The maven-assembly-plugin has a rich set of features that I think It
  will
   take for ever
   to release.
 
  I still don't understand. The assembly plugin is already released! :)
  Do you mean the wait for the 2.1 release?


 It has been 2 and half months. ;-)  Is it time a for a new release?

 Any how, I agree that It does not look right when there are 2 similar
 plugins.


 - Brett
 
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