Re: Please do not retire Myriad

[Brandon Gulla]

While I am not a committer at the moment, having contributed to Myriad in
the early days, I am able to help review potential PRs and changes down the
road.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > 1. Try to convince to Apache managers (I don't now the correct term)
> > for an exception to allow you accept commits from external
> > contributors (like me).
>
> All and any contributions are welcome, that is not he issue here. The
> board requires oversight of at least 3 (P)PMC members. For incubating
> project generally the committers are the PPMC.
>
> > 2. Follow your first proposal, create a new github organization, for
> > example (github.com/myriad) and working there.
>
> As the software is under the Apache license anyone can do this, you don't
> need to ask for permission.
>
> > Maybe in the future we can try go to Apache incubation again.
>
> And I’m sure the Apache incubator would welcome that.
>
> > I guess we are three people with interest into continue the project,
> > you, Juan P. and myself. From my side I am working in a local fork for
> > enhancing some stuff.
>
> Alternatively if the people above have contributed and promoted the
> project (I’m sorry but I don’t know the full history here) and the currenrt
> PPMC recognise that and votes you in as PPMC members then that may be
> enough to continue the project at Apache.
>
> Thanks.
> Justin




-- 
Brandon

Re: Please do not retire Myriad

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> 1. Try to convince to Apache managers (I don't now the correct term)
> for an exception to allow you accept commits from external
> contributors (like me).

All and any contributions are welcome, that is not he issue here. The board 
requires oversight of at least 3 (P)PMC members. For incubating project 
generally the committers are the PPMC.

> 2. Follow your first proposal, create a new github organization, for
> example (github.com/myriad) and working there.

As the software is under the Apache license anyone can do this, you don't need 
to ask for permission.

> Maybe in the future we can try go to Apache incubation again.

And I’m sure the Apache incubator would welcome that.

> I guess we are three people with interest into continue the project,
> you, Juan P. and myself. From my side I am working in a local fork for
> enhancing some stuff.

Alternatively if the people above have contributed and promoted the project 
(I’m sorry but I don’t know the full history here) and the currenrt PPMC 
recognise that and votes you in as PPMC members then that may be enough to 
continue the project at Apache.

Thanks.
Justin

Re: Please do not retire Myriad

[Javi Roman]

I understand, you are the only Myriad committer right now (the only
committer with active interest in the project), and you are not able
of approving new committers, or even external contributions because
you are alone, and Apache need three official committers for that.

So we are locked!

What options do we have?

1. Try to convince to Apache managers (I don't now the correct term)
for an exception to allow you accept commits from external
contributors (like me). I mean continue the incubation process with
non-standard rules.

2. Follow your first proposal, create a new github organization, for
example (github.com/myriad) and working there. Maybe in the future we
can try go to Apache incubation again.

I guess we are three people with interest into continue the project,
you, Juan P. and myself. From my side I am working in a local fork for
enhancing some stuff.

What do you think about?
Javi Roman

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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Darin Johnson  wrote:
> Javi, the block is a bit bigger than that.  To do things the Apache Way, at
> least 3 committers need to sign off on all releases and approve new
> committers.  This makes it really difficult to strengthen a weak
> community.  There may be a way around this if we got incubator to add some
> new committers outside the standard process.  I don't know how that would
> work or what evidence they'd want.  In addition we'd again need at least 3
> people actively contributing to the project.  Likely this would be almost
> identical to creating a new incubator project.