Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, 11:18 Eric Bresie, wrote: > Looks like Gradle 8.3 is released now > > https://github.com/gradle/gradle/releases/tag/v8.3.0 We're not currently planning to update the tooling API in NB19. However, it would be good to verify new Gradle projects in 19-rc5 are correctly picking up 8.3 and there are no issues working with it. Testing appreciated! Thanks, Neil
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
Looks like Gradle 8.3 is released now https://github.com/gradle/gradle/releases/tag/v8.3.0 On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 9:13 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 06:22, Laszlo Kishalmi > wrote: > > Well I fear, there is nothing we can do about this for NetBeans 19. > > Later on we can add a DSL language selector also a Gradle Version > > selector to the new project dialog, these need a slight API change at > least. > > > > It would be also possible to detect existing projects running on RC > > Gradle versions as project problems and offer a Gradle Version Upgrade > > to the final version as well. > > We could possibly re-initialize the wrapper to the latest release - > something like https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6333 for NB19? > Pros and cons. > > As Gradle init currently creates the wrapper anyway, the checkbox > currently just seems to control re-application of the wrapper. Untick > it with this and you'll still have a 8.3-rc1 wrapper. In NB20 should > unticking delete the wrapper files? Or should the checkbox be > removed? > > The other thing to consider UI-wise in NB20 would be the JDK toolchain > support added into the project. The UI is a bit confusing now that > the NetBeans Java platform doesn't control what the project runs on. > > And on a related subject, we should consider whether to add a similar > Maven wrapper UI in NB20. > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 06:22, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Well I fear, there is nothing we can do about this for NetBeans 19. > Later on we can add a DSL language selector also a Gradle Version > selector to the new project dialog, these need a slight API change at least. > > It would be also possible to detect existing projects running on RC > Gradle versions as project problems and offer a Gradle Version Upgrade > to the final version as well. We could possibly re-initialize the wrapper to the latest release - something like https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6333 for NB19? Pros and cons. As Gradle init currently creates the wrapper anyway, the checkbox currently just seems to control re-application of the wrapper. Untick it with this and you'll still have a 8.3-rc1 wrapper. In NB20 should unticking delete the wrapper files? Or should the checkbox be removed? The other thing to consider UI-wise in NB20 would be the JDK toolchain support added into the project. The UI is a bit confusing now that the NetBeans Java platform doesn't control what the project runs on. And on a related subject, we should consider whether to add a similar Maven wrapper UI in NB20. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
On 8/11/23 10:57, Neil C Smith wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 16:01, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Gradle 8.3-rc1 came very late in the game, but it is the one which finally supports JDK 20 as runtime. That's why we dropped that in. Please test! So, we need to build 19-rc5 soon, which will hopefully be identical to the release. Do we want to update the bundled Gradle library here before release? Do we have any idea when it might be finalized? Also I'm curious, given that the Gradle tooling API is meant to be forwards compatible, whether we actually needed to upgrade it to be able to support projects using 8.3? The main glitch is that new project would be generated using the 8.3-rc-1 as default even after 8.3 come out. Is there any workaround we could put in place here? We might want a different approach here in future to disconnect versions? Well I fear, there is nothing we can do about this for NetBeans 19. Later on we can add a DSL language selector also a Gradle Version selector to the new project dialog, these need a slight API change at least. It would be also possible to detect existing projects running on RC Gradle versions as project problems and offer a Gradle Version Upgrade to the final version as well. Good items for NB 20! Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 16:01, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Gradle 8.3-rc1 came very late in the game, but it is the one which > finally supports JDK 20 as runtime. That's why we dropped that in. > Please test! So, we need to build 19-rc5 soon, which will hopefully be identical to the release. Do we want to update the bundled Gradle library here before release? Do we have any idea when it might be finalized? Also I'm curious, given that the Gradle tooling API is meant to be forwards compatible, whether we actually needed to upgrade it to be able to support projects using 8.3? > The main glitch is that new > project would be generated using the 8.3-rc-1 as default even after 8.3 > come out. Is there any workaround we could put in place here? We might want a different approach here in future to disconnect versions? Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6307 On 8/6/23 12:36, Scott Palmer wrote: Yes, the change to a Kotlin default for the build scripts is very annoying. You could hardcode the option to use Groovy for now, until the UI selector is ready. Scott On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:03 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Well, Usually there is not too much change if any on the tooling side between the RC-s and the final release of Gradle. The main glitch is that new project would be generated using the 8.3-rc-1 as default even after 8.3 come out. Also there is another "issue", that from 8.2, Gradle generates Kotlin DSL by default, which could be confusing. I do not how big "pain" that could be, especially if we consider that we are quite popular in the Education sector... A patch to get the Groovy back might would worth another RC, might not... I've plan to add a Gradle DSL dialect selector to the new project page later On 8/4/23 17:00, Scott Palmer wrote: There's no guarantee that there isn't going to be a Gradle 8.3-rc-4 of course.. but I believe they have a policy of letting any RC soak for about a week, but maybe shorter depending on what changed since the previous RC. There were only a couple days between the last RC for 8.2 and the final release. RC-3 was announced on Wednesday, August 2nd. You and Laszlo can make the call. Cheers, Scott On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:19 PM Neil C Smith wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:53 Scott Palmer, wrote: Seems to be working well. I see Gradle 8.3-rc-3 is available, but didn't make it into NetBeans19-RC4. I haven't noticed any regressions, so I would try to squeeze in whatever the latest artifact is for Gradle 8.3 when the final NB 19 build is made. We'd need another NetBeans release candidate for that. Doable. Are the Gradle RC on a schedule? If so, possibly wait to see if a final release is made soon? Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
Yes, the change to a Kotlin default for the build scripts is very annoying. You could hardcode the option to use Groovy for now, until the UI selector is ready. Scott On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:03 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Well, > > Usually there is not too much change if any on the tooling side between > the RC-s and the final release of Gradle. The main glitch is that new > project would be generated using the 8.3-rc-1 as default even after 8.3 > come out. > > Also there is another "issue", that from 8.2, Gradle generates Kotlin > DSL by default, which could be confusing. I do not how big "pain" that > could be, especially if we consider that we are quite popular in the > Education sector... A patch to get the Groovy back might would worth > another RC, might not... > > I've plan to add a Gradle DSL dialect selector to the new project page > later > > On 8/4/23 17:00, Scott Palmer wrote: > > There's no guarantee that there isn't going to be a Gradle 8.3-rc-4 of > > course.. but I believe they have a policy of letting any RC soak for > about > > a week, but maybe shorter depending on what changed since the previous > RC. > > There were only a couple days between the last RC for 8.2 and the final > > release. RC-3 was announced on Wednesday, August 2nd. > > > > You and Laszlo can make the call. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Scott > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:19 PM Neil C Smith > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:53 Scott Palmer, wrote: > >> > >>> Seems to be working well. I see Gradle 8.3-rc-3 is available, but > didn't > >>> make it into NetBeans19-RC4. I haven't noticed any regressions, so I > >> would > >>> try to squeeze in whatever the latest artifact is for Gradle 8.3 when > the > >>> final NB 19 build is made. > >>> > >> We'd need another NetBeans release candidate for that. Doable. Are the > >> Gradle RC on a schedule? If so, possibly wait to see if a final release > is > >> made soon? > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Neil > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
Well, Usually there is not too much change if any on the tooling side between the RC-s and the final release of Gradle. The main glitch is that new project would be generated using the 8.3-rc-1 as default even after 8.3 come out. Also there is another "issue", that from 8.2, Gradle generates Kotlin DSL by default, which could be confusing. I do not how big "pain" that could be, especially if we consider that we are quite popular in the Education sector... A patch to get the Groovy back might would worth another RC, might not... I've plan to add a Gradle DSL dialect selector to the new project page later On 8/4/23 17:00, Scott Palmer wrote: There's no guarantee that there isn't going to be a Gradle 8.3-rc-4 of course.. but I believe they have a policy of letting any RC soak for about a week, but maybe shorter depending on what changed since the previous RC. There were only a couple days between the last RC for 8.2 and the final release. RC-3 was announced on Wednesday, August 2nd. You and Laszlo can make the call. Cheers, Scott On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:19 PM Neil C Smith wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:53 Scott Palmer, wrote: Seems to be working well. I see Gradle 8.3-rc-3 is available, but didn't make it into NetBeans19-RC4. I haven't noticed any regressions, so I would try to squeeze in whatever the latest artifact is for Gradle 8.3 when the final NB 19 build is made. We'd need another NetBeans release candidate for that. Doable. Are the Gradle RC on a schedule? If so, possibly wait to see if a final release is made soon? Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
There's no guarantee that there isn't going to be a Gradle 8.3-rc-4 of course.. but I believe they have a policy of letting any RC soak for about a week, but maybe shorter depending on what changed since the previous RC. There were only a couple days between the last RC for 8.2 and the final release. RC-3 was announced on Wednesday, August 2nd. You and Laszlo can make the call. Cheers, Scott On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:19 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:53 Scott Palmer, wrote: > > > Seems to be working well. I see Gradle 8.3-rc-3 is available, but didn't > > make it into NetBeans19-RC4. I haven't noticed any regressions, so I > would > > try to squeeze in whatever the latest artifact is for Gradle 8.3 when the > > final NB 19 build is made. > > > > We'd need another NetBeans release candidate for that. Doable. Are the > Gradle RC on a schedule? If so, possibly wait to see if a final release is > made soon? > > Best wishes, > > Neil >
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:53 Scott Palmer, wrote: > Seems to be working well. I see Gradle 8.3-rc-3 is available, but didn't > make it into NetBeans19-RC4. I haven't noticed any regressions, so I would > try to squeeze in whatever the latest artifact is for Gradle 8.3 when the > final NB 19 build is made. > We'd need another NetBeans release candidate for that. Doable. Are the Gradle RC on a schedule? If so, possibly wait to see if a final release is made soon? Best wishes, Neil
Re: Please Test your Gradle Workflows with NetBeans 19-rc-3
Seems to be working well. I see Gradle 8.3-rc-3 is available, but didn't make it into NetBeans19-RC4. I haven't noticed any regressions, so I would try to squeeze in whatever the latest artifact is for Gradle 8.3 when the final NB 19 build is made. Scott On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:02 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > Gradle 8.3-rc1 came very late in the game, but it is the one which > finally supports JDK 20 as runtime. That's why we dropped that in. > Please test! > > > Thanks! > > -- > > Laszlo Kishalmi >
