Re: Kotlin Support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Files with a .kt extension have basic syntax coloring support in 11.1. I’d
recommend you don’t talk about Kotlin at all in the context of NetBeans
until we figure out how to incorporate the donation of the JetBrains Kotlin
plugin.

Gj


On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 20:17, Kenneth Fogel 
wrote:

> In preparation for a session for Code One called IDE Wars for which I am
> responsible for NetBeans (and Visual Studio Code, don't ask me why). There
> is mention of enhancements in the Other category to syntax colouring and
> licence information at
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb111/index.html. I can see that the
> plugin from JetBrains was donated at
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398. So the question is whether
> or not NB 11.1 supports Kotlin now or is it coming or has it been dropped.
> This is just an informative question.
>
> Ken Fogel
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Re: kotlin support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:40 PM Antonio Vieiro  wrote:

> I’d suggest asking them first. After all we’re polite guys...
>
> El El mar, 30 abr 2019 a las 10:47, Christian Lenz  >
> escribió:
>
> > Is there a Need to ask them for the code? Why not fork the code and add
> it
> > into the codebase? It is still Apache 2.0. Is it still possible that they
> > say: no we don’t want to see the code inside the core code? I’m not a
> > lawyer, just asking.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Antonio
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 09:52
> > An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: kotlin support
> >
> > Wise words!
> >
> > El 30/04/2019 a las 9:50, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > > Apache 2.0 licensed, so on that part there is nothing wrong with that.
> > >
> > > We have just never actually did the simple thing to ask for their code.
> > >
> > > I do not say we shall not do the LSP, we shall keep on that route as
> > well.
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Re: kotlin support

[Antonio Vieiro]

I’d suggest asking them first. After all we’re polite guys...

El El mar, 30 abr 2019 a las 10:47, Christian Lenz 
escribió:

> Is there a Need to ask them for the code? Why not fork the code and add it
> into the codebase? It is still Apache 2.0. Is it still possible that they
> say: no we don’t want to see the code inside the core code? I’m not a
> lawyer, just asking.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Antonio
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 09:52
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: kotlin support
>
> Wise words!
>
> El 30/04/2019 a las 9:50, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > Apache 2.0 licensed, so on that part there is nothing wrong with that.
> >
> > We have just never actually did the simple thing to ask for their code.
> >
> > I do not say we shall not do the LSP, we shall keep on that route as
> well.
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Re: kotlin support

[Antonio]

Wise words!

El 30/04/2019 a las 9:50, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Apache 2.0 licensed, so on that part there is nothing wrong with that.

We have just never actually did the simple thing to ask for their code.

I do not say we shall not do the LSP, we shall keep on that route as well.


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Re: kotlin support

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, actually the JetBrains plugin is Open Source, even Apache 2.0 
licensed, so on that part there is nothing wrong with that.


We have just never actually did the simple thing to ask for their code.

I do not say we shall not do the LSP, we shall keep on that route as well.

On 4/30/19 12:33 AM, Antonio wrote:

Hi,

That's one more reason to depend on community based plugins (or 
language servers) than on proprietary ones.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 30/04/2019 a las 8:54, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Yup, that makes sense to me, at least, to focus on LSP instead.

Indeed, we should have asked in that discussion whether they'd like to
donate their Kotlin plugin to Apache NetBeans. Personally, I ended up 
being
very frustrated with their continual "well, there was never much 
interest

in this plugin and Kotlin in general from the NetBean community", etc,
while that very clearly was not true and they never created a solid 
plugin

to begin with.

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:29 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

There's a Kotlin Language Server here [1] that seems to be well
supported (11 contributors) and is available under the MIT license.

Maybe we should focus our efforts in helping out the LSP support in
NetBeans [2], which is a long time effort by Jan.

If we help out Jan with the LSP support our users would be able to use
NetBeans for a wide range of languages [3], from Fortran, Nim and Rust
to Lua, TypeScript and PowerShell (but for refactoring, which is 
lacking

in LSP AFAIK) and, with [1] for Kotlin.

Cheers,
Antonio


[1]
https://github.com/fwcd/KotlinLanguageServer

[2]
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/926

[3]
https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/implementors/servers/ 



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I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for 
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Re: kotlin support

[Antonio]

Hi,

That's one more reason to depend on community based plugins (or language 
servers) than on proprietary ones.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 30/04/2019 a las 8:54, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Yup, that makes sense to me, at least, to focus on LSP instead.

Indeed, we should have asked in that discussion whether they'd like to
donate their Kotlin plugin to Apache NetBeans. Personally, I ended up being
very frustrated with their continual "well, there was never much interest
in this plugin and Kotlin in general from the NetBean community", etc,
while that very clearly was not true and they never created a solid plugin
to begin with.

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:29 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

There's a Kotlin Language Server here [1] that seems to be well
supported (11 contributors) and is available under the MIT license.

Maybe we should focus our efforts in helping out the LSP support in
NetBeans [2], which is a long time effort by Jan.

If we help out Jan with the LSP support our users would be able to use
NetBeans for a wide range of languages [3], from Fortran, Nim and Rust
to Lua, TypeScript and PowerShell (but for refactoring, which is lacking
in LSP AFAIK) and, with [1] for Kotlin.

Cheers,
Antonio


[1]
https://github.com/fwcd/KotlinLanguageServer

[2]
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/926

[3]
https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/implementors/servers/

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I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.

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Re: kotlin support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yup, that makes sense to me, at least, to focus on LSP instead.

Indeed, we should have asked in that discussion whether they'd like to
donate their Kotlin plugin to Apache NetBeans. Personally, I ended up being
very frustrated with their continual "well, there was never much interest
in this plugin and Kotlin in general from the NetBean community", etc,
while that very clearly was not true and they never created a solid plugin
to begin with.

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:29 AM Antonio  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There's a Kotlin Language Server here [1] that seems to be well
> supported (11 contributors) and is available under the MIT license.
>
> Maybe we should focus our efforts in helping out the LSP support in
> NetBeans [2], which is a long time effort by Jan.
>
> If we help out Jan with the LSP support our users would be able to use
> NetBeans for a wide range of languages [3], from Fortran, Nim and Rust
> to Lua, TypeScript and PowerShell (but for refactoring, which is lacking
> in LSP AFAIK) and, with [1] for Kotlin.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/fwcd/KotlinLanguageServer
>
> [2]
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/926
>
> [3]
> https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/implementors/servers/
>
> El 29/04/2019 a las 19:58, Mike Billman escribió:
> > I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.
> >
> > Mike Billman
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > CPTE
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Re: kotlin support

[Antonio]

Hi all,

There's a Kotlin Language Server here [1] that seems to be well 
supported (11 contributors) and is available under the MIT license.


Maybe we should focus our efforts in helping out the LSP support in 
NetBeans [2], which is a long time effort by Jan.


If we help out Jan with the LSP support our users would be able to use 
NetBeans for a wide range of languages [3], from Fortran, Nim and Rust 
to Lua, TypeScript and PowerShell (but for refactoring, which is lacking 
in LSP AFAIK) and, with [1] for Kotlin.


Cheers,
Antonio


[1]
https://github.com/fwcd/KotlinLanguageServer

[2]
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/926

[3]
https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/implementors/servers/

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I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.

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Re: kotlin support

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, I was reading

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/122

I was a bit surprised that we had not asked them about donating that 
code. I can ask a few people there, though I have no real connection to 
the JetBrains.


Also I could test how this stuff can be integrated into the NetBeans 
codebase.


On 4/29/19 10:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Ideally the sources of the current state of the NetBeans Kotlin plugin
would be donated to Apache NetBeans. Does anyone have the right connections
to ask for this to happen?

Gj

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, Mario Schroeder  wrote:


Yes, maintain as well.

Laszlo Kishalmi  schrieb am Di., 30. Apr. 2019,
00:10:


Only supporter or willing to maintain the code as well?

On 4/29/19 11:31 AM, Mario Schroeder wrote:

Count me in as a supporter.

Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:


There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans

If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we

might

ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.


On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:

I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for

netbeans.

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Re: kotlin support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Ideally the sources of the current state of the NetBeans Kotlin plugin
would be donated to Apache NetBeans. Does anyone have the right connections
to ask for this to happen?

Gj

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, Mario Schroeder  wrote:

> Yes, maintain as well.
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi  schrieb am Di., 30. Apr. 2019,
> 00:10:
>
> > Only supporter or willing to maintain the code as well?
> >
> > On 4/29/19 11:31 AM, Mario Schroeder wrote:
> > > Count me in as a supporter.
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:
> > >>
> > >> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
> > >>
> > >> If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we
> might
> > >> ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:
> > >>> I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for
> > netbeans.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike Billman
> > >>>
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Re: kotlin support

[Mario Schroeder]

Yes, maintain as well.

Laszlo Kishalmi  schrieb am Di., 30. Apr. 2019,
00:10:

> Only supporter or willing to maintain the code as well?
>
> On 4/29/19 11:31 AM, Mario Schroeder wrote:
> > Count me in as a supporter.
> >
> > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
> >>
> >> If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we might
> >> ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:
> >>> I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for
> netbeans.
> >>>
> >>> Mike Billman
> >>>
> >>> Senior Software Engineer
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Re: kotlin support

[Tushar Joshi]

Hi Team,

My current project at work is developed in Kotlin and hence I will be
closely working with Kotlin.
Please count me in for development and refinement of the Kotlin plugin for
NetBeans.

Let us start a Kotlin channel on our Slack space so we can collaborate for
quick things, major points will be communicated through this mailing list
as usual.
I will watch this thread for formation of a possible team working on the
Kotlin plugin.

with regards
Tushar

Tushar Joshi, Nagpur: http://www.tusharjoshi.com

* MCSD_NET C#, SCJP, RHCE, ZCE, PMP, CSM, SAFe, PRINCE2

* Senior Architect @ Persistent Systems http://www.persistent.com
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:40 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Only supporter or willing to maintain the code as well?
>
> On 4/29/19 11:31 AM, Mario Schroeder wrote:
> > Count me in as a supporter.
> >
> > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
> >>
> >> If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we might
> >> ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:
> >>> I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for
> netbeans.
> >>>
> >>> Mike Billman
> >>>
> >>> Senior Software Engineer
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Re: kotlin support

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Only supporter or willing to maintain the code as well?

On 4/29/19 11:31 AM, Mario Schroeder wrote:

Count me in as a supporter.

Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:


There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans

If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we might
ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.


On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:

I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.

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RE: kotlin support

[Mike Billman]

Thanks, all.  Just some talk at work about using kotlin and as an NB user, 
wanted to know how that might impact me.

Mike

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From: Christian Lenz  
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 2:09 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: AW: kotlin support

Hey Mike,

not that much. You can try the official, not maintained Plugin from JetBrains. 
Thats it. With textmate and a fix, hopefully in the next release, we will have 
only simple syntax highlighting. With LSP, we can add the Kotlin LS Server and 
try to play with it.


Cheers

Chris



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I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.

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Re: kotlin support

[Mario Schroeder]

Count me in as a supporter.

Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:

> There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:
>
> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
>
> If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we might
> ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.
>
>
> On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:
> >
> > I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.
> >
> > Mike Billman
> >
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Re: kotlin support

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans

If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we might 
ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.



On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:


I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.

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