CMS diff:

2013-04-07 Thread Yan Ji
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 2013-01-01,2755,832
 2013-02-01,2864,898
 2013-03-01,2973,981
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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

RGB ES wrote:

I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with the
extension but with AOO.


It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that 
LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done 
in OpenOffice. To start, I would recommend to make the extension 
developers aware of it: http://www.languagetool.org/ asking them to 
write to this list if they need additional information.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 RGB ES wrote:

 I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
 both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
 Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with
 the
 extension but with AOO.


 It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
 LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done in
 OpenOffice. To start, I would recommend to make the extension developers
 aware of it: http://www.languagetool.org/ asking them to write to this
 list if they need additional information.


OK, I've sent an email to one of the main developers.

Regards
Ricardo





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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 RGB ES wrote:

 I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
 both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
 Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with
 the
 extension but with AOO.


 It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
 LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done in
 OpenOffice.


There is list of those changes? The release notes talks about an unified
menu API and points to this issue

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121542

but I'm not sure about the meaning of that.

Regards
Ricardo



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 http://www.languagetool.org/ asking them to write to this list if they
 need additional information.

 Regards,
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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Ricardo,

On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 03:18:11PM +0200, RGB ES wrote:
 2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 
  RGB ES wrote:
 
  I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
  both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
  Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with
  the
  extension but with AOO.
 
 
  It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
  LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done in
  OpenOffice.
 
 
 There is list of those changes? The release notes talks about an unified
 menu API and points to this issue
 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121542
 
 but I'm not sure about the meaning of that.

This API change is completely unrelated to grammar checking. Please open
a bug, this is also reproducible with
http://extensions.openoffice.org/project/lightproof
so the regression is in AOO code.


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Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for example if
a user wants a build that has some special configuration like, anti-alias
by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.

Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?

If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.

Regards.


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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org


Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread janI
On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for example if
 a user wants a build that has some special configuration like, anti-alias
 by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.

 Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?

No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
tasks and configure for each task (job).



 If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.

We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic. All
changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where only
a few have access.

But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not be
simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my opinion
to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save the
user from installing a compiler.

rgds
jan I.


 Regards.


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Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

  I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for example
 if
  a user wants a build that has some special configuration like, anti-alias
  by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
 
  Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
 
 No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
 tasks and configure for each task (job).


 
  If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
 
 We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic. All
 changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where only
 a few have access.

 But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not be
 simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my opinion


Well because a user might want to just click on a build made by an
automated bot.

This is done a lot by OpenSuSE studio people which can let you remaster
SuSE through a web interface and download the .iso, virtual machine or
amazon image.


 to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
 different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save the
 user from installing a compiler.

 rgds
 jan I.

 
  Regards.
 
 
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  Apache OpenOffice Contributor
  http://es.openoffice.org
 




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Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:48 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 7 April 2013 21:24, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

  On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 
   On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
  
I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for
  example
   if
a user wants a build that has some special configuration like,
  anti-alias
by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
   
Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
   
   No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
   tasks and configure for each task (job).
  
  
   
If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
   
   We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic.
  All
   changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where
  only
   a few have access.
  
   But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not
  be
   simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my
 opinion
  
 
  Well because a user might want to just click on a build made by an
  automated bot.
 
  This is done a lot by OpenSuSE studio people which can let you remaster
  SuSE through a web interface and download the .iso, virtual machine or
  amazon image.
 
 I can understand the need for an OS, but do we really want to distribute
 different packages. The binary we deliver, have quite a lot of options for
 configuration.

 I admit, that I think a lot more in reducing the compile switches (a la,
 this is our binary, all compile options are solely for our
 developers/testers)if a compile switch is usefull to a user, it should
 be an option in the program instead.


The question came from a user that wonder how difficult would it be to
remaster a binary of AOO 'in the cloud' which made me think of the nightly
builds. But I understand this is more challenging that at first glance. i
guess if this was trivial, l10n would have used long ago instead of waiting
for a localized version.




 rgds
 jan I.

 
 
   to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
   different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save
 the
   user from installing a compiler.
  
   rgds
   jan I.
  
   
Regards.
   
   
--
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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org
   
  
 
 
 
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  Apache OpenOffice Contributor
  http://es.openoffice.org
 




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OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread David Gerard
http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html

This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
blog planet? Should there be?


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Re: OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Seriously out of date is an understatement. We're almost talking
archeology here. I haven't maintained that page in years, and the one that
is most relevant is probably here, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/, but it's
not a planet.
louis


On 7 April 2013 18:42, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html

 This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
 planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
 blog planet? Should there be?


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Re: OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/8 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com

 http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html

 This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
 planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
 blog planet? Should there be?


Exactly one year ago there was a thread about a planet AOO:

http://markmail.org/message/u4qxggwpfgw4ij2h

Regards
Ricardo





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Re: OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts
lsuarezpo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Seriously out of date is an understatement. We're almost talking
 archeology here. I haven't maintained that page in years, and the one that
 is most relevant is probably here, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/, but it's
 not a planet.
 louis


Fortunately that is the blog we link to prominently from our website.

The http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html page David found is
almost invisible to users, since it is not prominently linked from
anywhere, onsite or off.  In the last 30 days it has received only 158
visits, out of over 6 million visits to the website.  So it is not the
highest on my list of webpages to worry about.

That said, all committers are able to get their personal blogs aggregated
into the Apache Committers Planet:  http://planet.apache.org/committers/

And if we want to have an OpenOffice-specifc version of this it would not
be too difficult to do.

-Rob



 On 7 April 2013 18:42, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

  http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html
 
  This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
  planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
  blog planet? Should there be?
 
 
  - d.
 
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Re: CMS diff:

2013-04-07 Thread Rob Weir
Thanks for the patch. I've checked it in.

-Rob


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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

2013-04-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Kay,

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 04:33:05PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
 Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with
 anything used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only
 concern with older items.

CentOS 5 is currently being maintained; in fact, the latest and
greatest 5 version has been released on January 2013
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2013-January/019205.html

CentOS 5 will get full updates until Q1 2014, and maintenance updates
until March 31st, 2017 
http://wiki.centos.org/About/Product
http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d

This means there will be security and other critical bug fixes until
2017, while maintaining the kernel and glibc base (2.6.18 and 2.5,
respectively).

You won't find this in other distros, not even Debian (squeeze has
glibc-2.11 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/glibc-2.11-1), which is
known for stability than cutting-edge packages.


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