Re: Checksum doesn't match

2013-07-28 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Peter Junge schrieb:
 The download seems to be incomplete because it has to be ~143.4 MB. So, your
 file size is not correct.

 I've seen this before with FIrefox - the download appears to have
 completed successfully but is in fact incomplete. No error is
 reported.
 
 That seems to be a genera 'feature' of Firefox. I haven't got the most stable
 connection hence download breaks sometimes and Firefox never threw any error.

It's not a feature, it's a bug. ;)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237623
The bug report was created around 8 years ago. Unfortunately it consists
primarily of complaints from users and little useful information.


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Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

Note that we do have this page already:
http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious in
mind, the existing page can be retired.


It will be just fine to update that page.

Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the private 
(PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:

svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice

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Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread janI
On 28 July 2013 09:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Rob Weir wrote:

 Note that we do have this page already:
 http://openoffice.apache.org/**pmc-faqs.html#moderatorhttp://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
 Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious in
 mind, the existing page can be retired.


 It will be just fine to update that page.


that page is very outdated, and it is a mixture of all kinds of
information. I think it would be better to have a special page,

I think pmc-faq, should have exact that content.

objections ?




 Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the private
 (PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:
 svn checkout 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/**private/pmc/openofficehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice


That is a possibility, do you think of telephone numbers etc, for emergency
situations ?

I will make a proposal on ~jani and ask for lazy consensus.

Does any maintainer (sysadm, sysop, root etc) have a problem that the page
contain our apache emails ?
If so please object now, before I show my proposal.

have a nice sunday.
rgds
jan I.


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[Website] Download page: Swedish

2013-07-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

I'm told that users with a Swedish browser, if they open
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
see (correctly) A release for Swedish is not available but then still 
see the big download link, Download Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0, which 
points to http://sv.openoffice.org/get/ (or to a Page not Found error).


Is this wanted? Or should the link in this case just point to the 
other.html page, or adopt another wording?


Note: Swedish was available in 3.4.1 but is not yet available in 4.0.0.

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Re: [Website] Download page: Swedish

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/28/2013 12:17 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

I'm told that users with a Swedish browser, if they open
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
see (correctly) A release for Swedish is not available but then still
see the big download link, Download Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0, which
points to http://sv.openoffice.org/get/ (or to a Page not Found error).


When there are no builds for a specific language then it depends on the 
setting where the green download box redirects. Mostly it's a link to 
the L10N page.


When browsing to the Swedish webpage I cannot see any errors on the page 
- except links to the AOO 3.4.1 release.


However, I've changed the wording to make it more clear what the user 
can expect when clicking on the link.



Is this wanted? Or should the link in this case just point to the
other.html page, or adopt another wording?

Note: Swedish was available in 3.4.1 but is not yet available in 4.0.0.


This is wanted to give the L10N commnity the posibility to tell their 
users what they could do (e.g., Help! We need volunteers to translate.).


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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:

On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:


Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.



But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
too hidden in our download infrastructure.

What's the best solution to ensure that:
1) Users can actually find the portable version and
2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
modify
http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
as follows: add it to the line that says
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK |
so that it becomes
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK | Third-party and portable versions

and to link the additional text to
http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.



To have a visible impression see here:

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html



+1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I am
no native speaker.


Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what 
our native speakers will say.


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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

 Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.


 But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being too
 hidden in our download infrastructure.

 What's the best solution to ensure that:
 1) Users can actually find the portable version and
 2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

 My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
 modify
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/
 as follows: add it to the line that says
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and SDK
 |
 so that it becomes
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and SDK
 | Third-party and portable versions

 and to link the additional text to
 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
 so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
 have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.


No objections, but I don't think this will be very effective.  People
who know about portable software will probably just search Google
for portable OpenOffice, in which case they will find our existing
ports page, blog post, etc.  (Searching via a search engine is more
effective than navigating through a website looking for something)
But if they are not familiar with the concept of a portable app then
they are not likely to click on that link.   In other words, most
people are not even aware that something like this exists and what it
is called.

-Rob



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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:

 On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

 Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

 On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

 Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.


 But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
 too hidden in our download infrastructure.

 What's the best solution to ensure that:
 1) Users can actually find the portable version and
 2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

 My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
 modify

 http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
 as follows: add it to the line that says
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
 SDK |
 so that it becomes
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
 SDK | Third-party and portable versions

 and to link the additional text to
 http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
 so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
 have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.


 To have a visible impression see here:


 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html


 +1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I
 am
 no native speaker.


 Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what our
 native speakers will say.


ports is more usual in a software context.

But portable is ambiguous, since it means two things:  1) capable of
being ported to multiple platforms.  2) something you can carry.

Since we offer portable code, ports of the binaries and a portable
version, it is hard to avoid confusion here ;-)

-Rob

 Marcus


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Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 On 28 July 2013 09:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Rob Weir wrote:

 Note that we do have this page already:
 http://openoffice.apache.org/**pmc-faqs.html#moderatorhttp://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
 Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious in
 mind, the existing page can be retired.


 It will be just fine to update that page.


 that page is very outdated, and it is a mixture of all kinds of
 information. I think it would be better to have a special page,

 I think pmc-faq, should have exact that content.

 objections ?


An outdated page versus a page that doesn't exist yet?   I guess I
don't care, so long as in the end there is a single place to go for
this info.




 Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the private
 (PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:
 svn checkout 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/**private/pmc/openofficehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice


 That is a possibility, do you think of telephone numbers etc, for emergency
 situations ?

 I will make a proposal on ~jani and ask for lazy consensus.

 Does any maintainer (sysadm, sysop, root etc) have a problem that the page
 contain our apache emails ?
 If so please object now, before I show my proposal.


We should be using existing tools like the mailing list and BZ and IRC
for admin requests and reporting outages.  I don't think we want to
encourage direct emails.

The real goal, IMHO, should be making sure that the responsible party
can easily find out what issues/requests are related to their area.
This could be done by using the dev list for all such requests.  It
could also be done by having BZ areas for such requests, something we
do have today in most cases.

So I would recommend just listing names or Apache ID's (robweir, etc.)
without mailto: hyperlinks, for reference.

Of course, every rule has exceptions.

Maybe a variation on this approach would work for us as well?

http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#how

Regards,

-Rob

 have a nice sunday.
 rgds
 jan I.


 Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/28/2013 02:18 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:


On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   wrote:


Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:


Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.



But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
too hidden in our download infrastructure.

What's the best solution to ensure that:
1) Users can actually find the portable version and
2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
modify

http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
as follows: add it to the line that says
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK |
so that it becomes
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK | Third-party and portable versions

and to link the additional text to
http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.



To have a visible impression see here:


http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html



+1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I
am
no native speaker.



Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what our
native speakers will say.



ports is more usual in a software context.

But portable is ambiguous, since it means two things:  1) capable of
being ported to multiple platforms.  2) something you can carry.

Since we offer portable code, ports of the binaries and a portable
version, it is hard to avoid confusion here ;-)


The link says:
Portable USB version and other third-party portings

and the title:
Get Apache OpenOffice as portable USB version or choose from other 
third-party portings


Shouldn't this be enough to make it clear? Or is it better when I 
replace Portable USB version with Portable USB App?


Marcus


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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Marcus,

2013/7/28 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de


 I'm already working with OpenOffice since many years, so I don't know if
 this is still needed by many users. ;-) But it sounds good and helpful.

 However, to not mixed things up and to get the most attention you would
 write your proposal as new mail thread.


Probably also not useful for the 57 millions of former OO.org or LibO users
who have already downloaded AOO ;-)
But I live in a difficult country, with virtually 100% MS users and only a
single AOO user detected up to now, living at 150 km from my house, my
situation is a little different, but also extremely exciting ;-)

A+
-- 
gw






Re: New Volunteer

2013-07-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Forwarding Raphael's answer (below) to Rayan. Rayan, if you speak Arabic 
then a reasonable and very helpful way to get started would be to help 
us with the Arabic translation, now at 93%. If you can help, let us 
know! Andrea


On 25/07/2013 Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi Rayan

Welcome at Apache OpenOffice. On
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html you can read the
orientation module. If you have Questions, you are on the right list here.

I wish you the best for your work at Apache OpenOffice.

Greetings
Raphael

Am 25.07.13 04:58, schrieb Rayan Al-Hammami:

Hello All,
My name is Rayan Al-Hammami. I am a 3rd year Computer Science major at
the
University of Central Oklahoma. I am a Saudi-American citizen. I am
excited
to get my hands a little dirty here, or to just learn from the pros. I
greatly appreciate the opportunity, and the work that's done here.
Thanks.

Best Regards,
Rayan



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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti
A quick selection of articles in Italian that went beyond the simple 
copy and paste:


http://www.melablog.it/post/108539/apache-rilascia-openoffice-4-0-barra-laterale-e-migliore-interoperabilita-con-ms-office

http://www.tuxjournal.net/rilasciato-openoffice-4-0-novita-link-al-download/

http://www.oneopensource.it/26/07/2013/apache-openoffice-4-0-disponibile-per-il-download/

http://news.softonic.it/openoffice-versione-4-0-windows-mac

Still, note that virtually all articles (including those in English) 
massively reuse screenshots from the Release Notes. It was a very good 
idea to provide those materials.


Regards,
  Andrea.

On 25/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/25/open_office_40_debuts_with_ibm_code_side_and_centre/

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apache-bolts-sidebar-onto-new-openoffice-1168196

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-overhauls-user-interface-boosts-microsoft-compatibility/

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

http://www.muylinux.com/2013/07/24/apache-openoffice-4/

(Interesting choice of a logo, one of the other nice ones from the contest)

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

Important Japanese website:

http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608941.html

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

http://www.datamation.com/applications/apache-releases-open-source-openoffice-4.html

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ricardo Berlassorgb.m...@gmail.com  wrote:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQxODQ


2013/7/23 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org


http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-is-here/

http://www.zdnet.com/openoffice-4-0-arrives-718456/

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:



http://office.about.com/b/2013/07/23/the-new-openoffice-available-today-new-side-bar-and-more.htm




http://amanz.my/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-dilancarkan-untuk-pengguna-windows-mac-dan-linux/




http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/23/1643204/apache-openoffice-40-released-with-major-new-features


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

This is a nice one:
http://betanews.com/2013/07/23/apache-releases-openoffice-4/

-Rob

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:



http://www.chip.de/news/OpenOffice-4.0-Gross-Update-mit-neuen-Funktionen_63245985.html


(They have a nice gallery of screen shots as well:


http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/Alle-Neuheiten-von-Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-Galerie_63246075.html
)


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

http://lwn.net/Articles/560203/  (All of three sentences.  I thought
they got paid by the word?)



http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-z-nowym-interfejsem,Aktualnosc,42866.html


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

wrote:

So far, so good.

http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/31036/apache-openoffice-400.html



www.ghacks.net/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-released-find-out-what-is-new


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ricardo Berlasso

rgb.m...@gmail.com  wrote:

2013/7/23 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org


http://www.itmagazine.ch/Artikel/53584/Openoffice_4.0_ist_da.html

http://denis-sylvain.be/2013/07/apache-openoffice-4-0-est-sorti/


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

wrote:





http://blog.open-office.es/index.php/inicio/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-0-ya-disponible-para-su-descarga






http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/20046/apache-openoffice-40-erschienen.html






http://tic-et-net.org/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-fr-est-enfin-disponible-en-version-dfinitive/



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

wrote:





http://www.lbenitez.com/2013/07/openoffice-40-is-available-now-go-and.html


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

wrote:





http://www.golem.de/news/apache-openoffice-4-0-erscheint-mit-symphony-funktionen-1307-100567.html



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

wrote:

Respond in this thread to share news articles, etc., related

to 4.0

release.


So far I've seen, in the first 30 minutes:





http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/07/23/561727/10041350/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-tm-OpenOffice-tm-4-0.html






http://www.pcworld.com/article/2045000/apache-openoffice-now-comes-with-a-handy-sidebar.html






http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apache-OpenOffice-4-0-Becomes-a-Serious-Player-with-Major-Overhaul-and-New-Features-370284.shtml






http://www.heise.de/mac-and-i/meldung/OpenOffice-4-0-mit-neuer-Seitenleiste-1921880.html


https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/559747687417446




Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 28, 2013, at 8:43 AM, janI wrote:

 On 28 July 2013 14:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 On 28 July 2013 09:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
 Rob Weir wrote:
 
 Note that we do have this page already:
 http://openoffice.apache.org/**pmc-faqs.html#moderator
 http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
 Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious in
 mind, the existing page can be retired.
 
 
 It will be just fine to update that page.
 
 
 that page is very outdated, and it is a mixture of all kinds of
 information. I think it would be better to have a special page,
 
 I think pmc-faq, should have exact that content.
 
 objections ?
 
 
 An outdated page versus a page that doesn't exist yet?   I guess I
 don't care, so long as in the end there is a single place to go for
 this info.
 
 
 Well I could say the same, a page only a few knows that contains quite a
 lot of diifferent information, and where the maintenance part is outdated
 (doesnt even contain the services we offer), or a new page with the sole
 purpose of information who is doing the job.

If this is a new page then it should be called Infrastructure and be linked 
to from the left nav in the Community section of the project site.

Once the page is created and we are happy with it we can update the PMC facts 
by replacing the duplicate content with a link.

Regards,
Dave 


 
 
 
 
 
 Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the private
 (PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:
 svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/**private/pmc/openoffice
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice
 
 
 That is a possibility, do you think of telephone numbers etc, for
 emergency
 situations ?
 
 I will make a proposal on ~jani and ask for lazy consensus.
 
 Does any maintainer (sysadm, sysop, root etc) have a problem that the
 page
 contain our apache emails ?
 If so please object now, before I show my proposal.
 
 
 We should be using existing tools like the mailing list and BZ and IRC
 for admin requests and reporting outages.  I don't think we want to
 encourage direct emails.
 
 
 hmm, if thats the case then there are no purpose of telling who is doing
 the job...then we all just scream help on whatever list and hope the right
 person reads its. On the other hand, if we want to identify the people
 doing the job I have only found the mailId as a common dominator, if you
 have another id then please tell me.
 
 Using BZ for outages, would be at least interesting, on a good day it would
 take 2-3 weeks before I became aware of the problem. I think for outages BZ
 is not really the suited. IRC might be suited, but I seldom see people who
 can do something in there. Maybe I am just negative, but at least I have
 nearly a full year experience with AOO (and 25+ with other systems) and all
 ourages an until today I have not received a single outage request from BZ
 or IRC.
 
 
 The real goal, IMHO, should be making sure that the responsible party
 can easily find out what issues/requests are related to their area.
 This could be done by using the dev list for all such requests.  It
 could also be done by having BZ areas for such requests, something we
 do have today in most cases.
 
 
 I honestly think that the responsible party know what their area are, I
 think it is more important the informing part knows where to inform.
 
 I take your word for using BZ and dev@, since it saves me the work of
 making a list. But bear in mind that I (as an example) from time to time
 only read dev mail with 72 hours interval, do you really want to wait that
 long to get a server restarted ?
 
 
 
 So I would recommend just listing names or Apache ID's (robweir, etc.)
 without mailto: hyperlinks, for reference.
 
 
 now you confuse me, you have just argued to use BZ and dev list, so no need
 for specific names ?
 
 
 
 Of course, every rule has exceptions.
 
 Maybe a variation on this approach would work for us as well?
 
 http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#how
 
 
 that was my basic idea, but the difference is that #asfinfra and infra@ are
 solely for maintenance and not for general development (infra-dev@ is for
 that purpose), dev@ is of course mainly related to non-maintenance issues,
 and as such an outage mail can easily be overlooked.
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 
 thanks for your views, we do have a big gap between your views and what I
 feel is needed.
 
 Maybe I am just too focused on providing 24/7 service, and not something
 with 72hours gaps. I will let the discussion mature before I start doing
 wasted work.
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 
 
 have a nice sunday.
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 
 Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
 
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Re: paste/clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

2013-07-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:

 There are 2 bug reports, I guess that we can make one the duplicate of the
 other:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=113171https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113171
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=49907https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=49907
 Forum topic updated with the relevant topics and bug reports.

 Hagar


I hope the folks on issue 113171 can re-test with AOO 4.0. I went through a
few of the steps just now on AOO 4.0 with my Linux version and everything
works as expected. One system clipboard doing what you would expect.



 Le 27/07/2013 01:09, Kay Schenk a écrit :


  On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lay Saw sawlay...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi, Open Office developer,


 I am using writer in windows 8, but keep facing the clipboard paste
 function not working properly, could not find any solution to that. Most
 discuasion I can find is in Win 7:
 http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=**60299http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=60299

 Can you please enlighten me?


 Thanks

 Lay


  Hello Lay --

 I took a look at this Forum discussion. I can not enlighten you, but it
 would help us a great deal if you could file a bug issue for this problem.

 There are some other issues related to cutting and pasting and clipboard
 already. It would help if we had more specific examples to investigate
 this
 and fix these problems.

 Link to Apache OpenOffice Bugzilla.

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

 Thank you for reporting this.





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Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread janI
On 28 July 2013 18:33, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:


 On Jul 28, 2013, at 8:43 AM, janI wrote:

  On 28 July 2013 14:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  On 28 July 2013 09:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
  Rob Weir wrote:
 
  Note that we do have this page already:
  http://openoffice.apache.org/**pmc-faqs.html#moderator
  http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
  Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious
 in
  mind, the existing page can be retired.
 
 
  It will be just fine to update that page.
 
 
  that page is very outdated, and it is a mixture of all kinds of
  information. I think it would be better to have a special page,
 
  I think pmc-faq, should have exact that content.
 
  objections ?
 
 
  An outdated page versus a page that doesn't exist yet?   I guess I
  don't care, so long as in the end there is a single place to go for
  this info.
 
 
  Well I could say the same, a page only a few knows that contains quite a
  lot of diifferent information, and where the maintenance part is outdated
  (doesnt even contain the services we offer), or a new page with the sole
  purpose of information who is doing the job.

 If this is a new page then it should be called Infrastructure and be
 linked to from the left nav in the Community section of the project site.


Agreed, I actually get quite confused by the difference between
www.openoffice.org and openoffice.apache.org, I wonder if the users share
the confusion.

I agree with both name of link.



 Once the page is created and we are happy with it we can update the PMC
 facts by replacing the duplicate content with a link.


if/when the page is made it will be available on people.a.o/~jani and
aquire lazy consensus, before moving it anywhere.

Rob raised some very valid doubts, if a detailed listing is wanted, and I
would like to see what other people think.

rgds
jan I.



 Regards,
 Dave


 
 
 
 
 
  Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the
 private
  (PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:
  svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/**private/pmc/openoffice
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice
 
 
  That is a possibility, do you think of telephone numbers etc, for
  emergency
  situations ?
 
  I will make a proposal on ~jani and ask for lazy consensus.
 
  Does any maintainer (sysadm, sysop, root etc) have a problem that the
  page
  contain our apache emails ?
  If so please object now, before I show my proposal.
 
 
  We should be using existing tools like the mailing list and BZ and IRC
  for admin requests and reporting outages.  I don't think we want to
  encourage direct emails.
 
 
  hmm, if thats the case then there are no purpose of telling who is doing
  the job...then we all just scream help on whatever list and hope the
 right
  person reads its. On the other hand, if we want to identify the people
  doing the job I have only found the mailId as a common dominator, if you
  have another id then please tell me.
 
  Using BZ for outages, would be at least interesting, on a good day it
 would
  take 2-3 weeks before I became aware of the problem. I think for outages
 BZ
  is not really the suited. IRC might be suited, but I seldom see people
 who
  can do something in there. Maybe I am just negative, but at least I have
  nearly a full year experience with AOO (and 25+ with other systems) and
 all
  ourages an until today I have not received a single outage request from
 BZ
  or IRC.
 
 
  The real goal, IMHO, should be making sure that the responsible party
  can easily find out what issues/requests are related to their area.
  This could be done by using the dev list for all such requests.  It
  could also be done by having BZ areas for such requests, something we
  do have today in most cases.
 
 
  I honestly think that the responsible party know what their area are, I
  think it is more important the informing part knows where to inform.
 
  I take your word for using BZ and dev@, since it saves me the work of
  making a list. But bear in mind that I (as an example) from time to time
  only read dev mail with 72 hours interval, do you really want to wait
 that
  long to get a server restarted ?
 
 
 
  So I would recommend just listing names or Apache ID's (robweir, etc.)
  without mailto: hyperlinks, for reference.
 
 
  now you confuse me, you have just argued to use BZ and dev list, so no
 need
  for specific names ?
 
 
 
  Of course, every rule has exceptions.
 
  Maybe a variation on this approach would work for us as well?
 
  http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#how
 
 
  that was my basic idea, but the difference is that #asfinfra and infra@are
  solely for maintenance and not for general development (infra-dev@ is
 for
  that purpose), dev@ is of course mainly related to non-maintenance
 issues,
  and as such an outage mail can 

Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 On 28 July 2013 14:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  On 28 July 2013 09:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
  Rob Weir wrote:
 
  Note that we do have this page already:
  http://openoffice.apache.org/**pmc-faqs.html#moderator
 http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
  Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious in
  mind, the existing page can be retired.
 
 
  It will be just fine to update that page.
 
 
  that page is very outdated, and it is a mixture of all kinds of
  information. I think it would be better to have a special page,
 
  I think pmc-faq, should have exact that content.
 
  objections ?
 

 An outdated page versus a page that doesn't exist yet?   I guess I
 don't care, so long as in the end there is a single place to go for
 this info.


 Well I could say the same, a page only a few knows that contains quite a
 lot of diifferent information, and where the maintenance part is outdated
 (doesnt even contain the services we offer), or a new page with the sole
 purpose of information who is doing the job.


 
 
 
  Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the private
  (PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:
  svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/**private/pmc/openoffice
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice
 
 
  That is a possibility, do you think of telephone numbers etc, for
 emergency
  situations ?
 
  I will make a proposal on ~jani and ask for lazy consensus.
 
  Does any maintainer (sysadm, sysop, root etc) have a problem that the
 page
  contain our apache emails ?
  If so please object now, before I show my proposal.
 

 We should be using existing tools like the mailing list and BZ and IRC
 for admin requests and reporting outages.  I don't think we want to
 encourage direct emails.


 hmm, if thats the case then there are no purpose of telling who is doing
 the job...then we all just scream help on whatever list and hope the right
 person reads its. On the other hand, if we want to identify the people
 doing the job I have only found the mailId as a common dominator, if you
 have another id then please tell me.


I don't recall ever seeing the mailing list down.  So that seems to be
a solid solution. It has the advantage that we can check email from
any device from any location.

 Using BZ for outages, would be at least interesting, on a good day it would
 take 2-3 weeks before I became aware of the problem. I think for outages BZ
 is not really the suited. IRC might be suited, but I seldom see people who
 can do something in there. Maybe I am just negative, but at least I have
 nearly a full year experience with AOO (and 25+ with other systems) and all
 ourages an until today I have not received a single outage request from BZ
 or IRC.


 The real goal, IMHO, should be making sure that the responsible party
 can easily find out what issues/requests are related to their area.
 This could be done by using the dev list for all such requests.  It
 could also be done by having BZ areas for such requests, something we
 do have today in most cases.


 I honestly think that the responsible party know what their area are, I
 think it is more important the informing part knows where to inform.

 I take your word for using BZ and dev@, since it saves me the work of
 making a list. But bear in mind that I (as an example) from time to time
 only read dev mail with 72 hours interval, do you really want to wait that
 long to get a server restarted ?



 So I would recommend just listing names or Apache ID's (robweir, etc.)
 without mailto: hyperlinks, for reference.


 now you confuse me, you have just argued to use BZ and dev list, so no need
 for specific names ?



Sorry for the confusion. I'm suggesting listing names, but not email
address.  The idea is to not make it trivial for someone to click and
send an email.  Remember, we're still dealing with the masses who are
looking for the easy way to technical support. As BZ admin I receive
quite a few product support questions sent to the admin address.
Ditto to the list help address.  So make it sufficient for project
members to know who owns the area, but not so simple that any random
person will use it.

Remember, in many areas we have more than one authorized person who
can fix things.  But we also all take vacations.  Sending an outage
message to personal email has two problems:

1) It does not let others on the dev list know about the outage or
that it has already been reported. This leads to a cascade of more
notifications sent, to the general annoyance of everyone.

2) If the person notified is not available, due to vacation or
whatever, the fix is delayed even further.

So I recommend sending all such issues to BZ if it is not urgent or to
the dev list if it is urgent.  Sometimes I'll even put the dev 

[CMS PATCH] Asturian language

2013-07-28 Thread Anonymous CMS User
Clone URL (Committers only):
https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/ast%2Findex.html

Asturian main page reworked from English main page. Please, review it, because 
I'm not quite confident that I haven't made some kind of mistake.

Regards
--
Xuacu Saturio

Index: trunk/content/ast/index.html
===
--- trunk/content/ast/index.html(revision 1490882)
+++ trunk/content/ast/index.html(working copy)
@@ -1,213 +1,143 @@
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//AST 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
-html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang=asthead
-
-
-  
-
+html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang=ast
+head  
  
- 
- 
-  titleOpenOffice - La office llibre n'asturianu/title
+  meta name=description content=La páxina web oficial del proyeutu de 
códigu abiertu Apache OpenOffice, con OpenOffice Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw y 
Base./
+  meta name=keywords content=OpenOffice, Open Office, Apache OpenOffice, 
Apache Open Office, OpenOffice.org, Calc, Impress, Draw, Base, ODF, Open 
Document Format, free office editors, editores office llibres, asturianu, 
llingua asturiana/
+  meta name=google-site-verification 
content=x1jl2cGum4kCvj0PgxjTy_pasCsLY_fBT7my88fpKD4 /
+  meta name=p:domain_verify content=bd1ba1fb9d25b0eb3d64891f89e9195e/
   meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8/
-  meta name=keywords content=OpenOffice, n'asturianu, bable, asturiano, 
llingua asturiana, OpenOffice.org, Open Office, openoffice, StarOffice, Star 
Office, OOo/
-  meta name=description content=OpenOffice - La suite ofimática llibre/
-  link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=estils/style.css 
media=screen/
-  link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=estils/print.css 
media=print/
-  link rel=icon type=image/x-icon 
href=http://www.openoffice.org/branding/images/favicon.ico/
-  link rel=shortcut icon type=image/x-icon 
href=http://www.openoffice.org/branding/images/favicon.ico/
-  link rel=alternate href=http://planet.services.openoffice.org/atom.xml; 
title= type=application/atom+xml/
+  link href=https://plus.google.com/+openoffice; rel=publisher /
+  link rel=STYLESHEET type=text/css href=/product/product.css 
media=screen /
+  titleApache OpenOffice - Aplicaciones de productividá llibres y abiertes 
n'asturianu/title
+style type=text/css
+/* ![CDATA[ */
+/* Exceptions on standard css ---*/
+@import home.css;
+@import styles.css;
+@import exceptions.css;
+/* ]] */
+/style
 
+script
+   function follow(platform) {
+   _gaq.push(['_trackEvent','social', 'followUs', platform]); 
+   if (platform == 'Facebook') {
+   
window.open(https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO,_blank;);
+   } else if (platform == 'Twitter') {
+   window.open(https://twitter.com/ApacheOO,_blank;);
+   } else if (platform == 'GooglePlus') {
+   
window.open(https://plus.google.com/+openoffice,_blank;);
+   }  else if (platform == 'ApacheBlog') {
+   window.open(https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/,_blank;);
+   }
+   }
+/script
+   
+/head
 
+body
 
 
-
-
-link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=estils/home.css media=screen/
-
-script type=text/javascript src=js/languages.js/script
-script type=text/javascript src=js/download.js/script
-
-script type=text/javascript
-
-!--
-
-var VERSION = 3.1.0;
-
-var SHOWDOWNLOAD = false;
-
-
-
-
-
-function toggleDownload() {
-
-  if (!SHOWDOWNLOAD) {
-
-SHOWDOWNLOAD = true;
-
-showDownload();
-
-  } else {
-
-SHOWDOWNLOAD = false;
-
-hideDownload();
-
-  }
-
-}
-
-
-
-
-
-function showDownload() {
-
-  var downloadCont = document.getElementById(action-download-extra);
-
-  var newHTML = div id=\buttonwrap\div id=\downloadbutton\ 
onclick=\openItem('optionitem1',' + getLink( VERSION ) + ');return 
false;\;
-
-
-
-  if ( hasBouncerLink() ) {
-
-newHTML += h3a href='+ getLink( VERSION ) + 'Download 
now!/a/h3pStart downloading OpenOffice.org  + VERSION +  for  + 
getPlatform() +  in  + getLanguage() + br/(Java runtime, JRE, included for 
all OS versions except Linux Deb and Mac)/p;
-
-  } else {
-
-newHTML += h3a href='+ getLink( VERSION ) + 'Download 
now!/a/h3pOpenOffice.org  + VERSION +  for  + getPlatform() +  ( + 
getLanguage() + )/p;
-
-  }
-
-
-
-  newHTML += /divp class=\options\Get a title=\get other laguages, 
platforms, non-JRE options to download\ onclick=\document.location = 
this.href; return false;\ href=\http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#; + 
getLanguageISO() + \more platforms,  languages, non-JRE versions/a, a 
title='Order CD-ROM' onclick=\document.location = this.href; return false;\ 

Is anyone else having CMS errors?

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
For example, when I try to apply Xuacu 's recent patch from the list I
get this message:


Not Found

The requested URL
/ooo-site/wc/diff/robweir-anonymous-epVYtB/trunk/content/ast/index.html
was not found on this server.

I get a similar error if I try to use the bookmarklet to edit other
pages.   Tried on two machines and saw this error yesterday as well.

Anyone else seeing this?

-Rob

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Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-28 Thread janI
On 28 July 2013 19:38, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  On 28 July 2013 14:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
   On 28 July 2013 09:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
  
   Rob Weir wrote:
  
   Note that we do have this page already:
   http://openoffice.apache.org/**pmc-faqs.html#moderator
  http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#moderator
   Maybe that can be updated?  Or if you have something more ambitious
 in
   mind, the existing page can be retired.
  
  
   It will be just fine to update that page.
  
  
   that page is very outdated, and it is a mixture of all kinds of
   information. I think it would be better to have a special page,
  
   I think pmc-faq, should have exact that content.
  
   objections ?
  
 
  An outdated page versus a page that doesn't exist yet?   I guess I
  don't care, so long as in the end there is a single place to go for
  this info.
 
 
  Well I could say the same, a page only a few knows that contains quite a
  lot of diifferent information, and where the maintenance part is outdated
  (doesnt even contain the services we offer), or a new page with the sole
  purpose of information who is doing the job.
 
 
  
  
  
   Additional contact information, if desired, can be stored in the
 private
   (PMC members only) SVN repository for this PMC:
   svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/**private/pmc/openoffice
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/openoffice
  
  
   That is a possibility, do you think of telephone numbers etc, for
  emergency
   situations ?
  
   I will make a proposal on ~jani and ask for lazy consensus.
  
   Does any maintainer (sysadm, sysop, root etc) have a problem that the
  page
   contain our apache emails ?
   If so please object now, before I show my proposal.
  
 
  We should be using existing tools like the mailing list and BZ and IRC
  for admin requests and reporting outages.  I don't think we want to
  encourage direct emails.
 
 
  hmm, if thats the case then there are no purpose of telling who is doing
  the job...then we all just scream help on whatever list and hope the
 right
  person reads its. On the other hand, if we want to identify the people
  doing the job I have only found the mailId as a common dominator, if you
  have another id then please tell me.
 

 I don't recall ever seeing the mailing list down.  So that seems to be
 a solid solution. It has the advantage that we can check email from
 any device from any location.


I have only seen it down a couple of times, but not long enough to really
disturb anybody.


 Using BZ for outages, would be at least interesting, on a good day it
 would
  take 2-3 weeks before I became aware of the problem. I think for outages
 BZ
  is not really the suited. IRC might be suited, but I seldom see people
 who
  can do something in there. Maybe I am just negative, but at least I have
  nearly a full year experience with AOO (and 25+ with other systems) and
 all
  ourages an until today I have not received a single outage request from
 BZ
  or IRC.
 
 
  The real goal, IMHO, should be making sure that the responsible party
  can easily find out what issues/requests are related to their area.
  This could be done by using the dev list for all such requests.  It
  could also be done by having BZ areas for such requests, something we
  do have today in most cases.
 
 
  I honestly think that the responsible party know what their area are, I
  think it is more important the informing part knows where to inform.
 
  I take your word for using BZ and dev@, since it saves me the work of
  making a list. But bear in mind that I (as an example) from time to time
  only read dev mail with 72 hours interval, do you really want to wait
 that
  long to get a server restarted ?
 
 
 
  So I would recommend just listing names or Apache ID's (robweir, etc.)
  without mailto: hyperlinks, for reference.
 
 
  now you confuse me, you have just argued to use BZ and dev list, so no
 need
  for specific names ?
 


 Sorry for the confusion. I'm suggesting listing names, but not email
 address.  The idea is to not make it trivial for someone to click and
 send an email.  Remember, we're still dealing with the masses who are
 looking for the easy way to technical support. As BZ admin I receive
 quite a few product support questions sent to the admin address.
 Ditto to the list help address.  So make it sufficient for project
 members to know who owns the area, but not so simple that any random
 person will use it.


I see your point, but that also means to me, that there are no reason to
list the people (listing the people reveals their email addresses).



 Remember, in many areas we have more than one authorized person who
 can fix things.  But we also all take vacations.  Sending an outage
 message to personal email has two problems:


 1) It does 

Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 A quick selection of articles in Italian that went beyond the simple copy
 and paste:

 http://www.melablog.it/post/108539/apache-rilascia-openoffice-4-0-barra-laterale-e-migliore-interoperabilita-con-ms-office

 http://www.tuxjournal.net/rilasciato-openoffice-4-0-novita-link-al-download/

 http://www.oneopensource.it/26/07/2013/apache-openoffice-4-0-disponibile-per-il-download/

 http://news.softonic.it/openoffice-versione-4-0-windows-mac

 Still, note that virtually all articles (including those in English)
 massively reuse screenshots from the Release Notes. It was a very good idea
 to provide those materials.


Yes.  It worked out well.  Note though that we have received a note
from a print journalist looking for a high-resolution screenshot.  So
we might consider the needs of print media in the next release also.

So what next?  One idea is to have a follow up blog post with download
numbers and highlights from the media coverage of the 4.0 release.  Of
course, we could list all of the articles, which would be impressive.
But it would be good to have a shorter list of the best coverage also

-Rob



 Regards,
   Andrea.


 On 25/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:


 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/25/open_office_40_debuts_with_ibm_code_side_and_centre/

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


 http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apache-bolts-sidebar-onto-new-openoffice-1168196

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-overhauls-user-interface-boosts-microsoft-compatibility/

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

 http://www.muylinux.com/2013/07/24/apache-openoffice-4/

 (Interesting choice of a logo, one of the other nice ones from the
 contest)

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

 Important Japanese website:

 http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608941.html

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


 http://www.datamation.com/applications/apache-releases-open-source-openoffice-4.html

 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ricardo Berlassorgb.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQxODQ


 2013/7/23 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

 http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-is-here/

 http://www.zdnet.com/openoffice-4-0-arrives-718456/

 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
 wrote:



 http://office.about.com/b/2013/07/23/the-new-openoffice-available-today-new-side-bar-and-more.htm




 http://amanz.my/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-dilancarkan-untuk-pengguna-windows-mac-dan-linux/




 http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/23/1643204/apache-openoffice-40-released-with-major-new-features


 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
 wrote:

 This is a nice one:
 http://betanews.com/2013/07/23/apache-releases-openoffice-4/

 -Rob

 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
 wrote:



 http://www.chip.de/news/OpenOffice-4.0-Gross-Update-mit-neuen-Funktionen_63245985.html


 (They have a nice gallery of screen shots as well:


 http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/Alle-Neuheiten-von-Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-Galerie_63246075.html
 )


 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
 wrote:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/560203/  (All of three sentences.  I
 thought
 they got paid by the word?)



 http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-z-nowym-interfejsem,Aktualnosc,42866.html


 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

 wrote:

 So far, so good.


 http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/31036/apache-openoffice-400.html



 www.ghacks.net/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-released-find-out-what-is-new


 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ricardo Berlasso

 rgb.m...@gmail.com  wrote:

 2013/7/23 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org


 http://www.itmagazine.ch/Artikel/53584/Openoffice_4.0_ist_da.html


 http://denis-sylvain.be/2013/07/apache-openoffice-4-0-est-sorti/


 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob
 Weirrobw...@apache.org

 wrote:




 http://blog.open-office.es/index.php/inicio/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-0-ya-disponible-para-su-descarga





 http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/20046/apache-openoffice-40-erschienen.html





 http://tic-et-net.org/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-fr-est-enfin-disponible-en-version-dfinitive/



 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Rob
 Weirrobw...@apache.org

 wrote:




 http://www.lbenitez.com/2013/07/openoffice-40-is-available-now-go-and.html


 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rob
 Weirrobw...@apache.org

 wrote:




 http://www.golem.de/news/apache-openoffice-4-0-erscheint-mit-symphony-funktionen-1307-100567.html



 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Rob
 Weirrobw...@apache.org

 wrote:

 Respond in this thread to share news 

Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/28/2013 06:28 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:


On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:46 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 07/28/2013 02:18 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   wrote:

Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:


On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote:


Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:


Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.



But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
too hidden in our download infrastructure.

What's the best solution to ensure that:
1) Users can actually find the portable version and
2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
modify

http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
as follows: add it to the line that says
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK |
so that it becomes
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK | Third-party and portable versions

and to link the additional text to
http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.



To have a visible impression see here:


http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html



+1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I
am
no native speaker.



Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what our
native speakers will say.



ports is more usual in a software context.

But portable is ambiguous, since it means two things:  1) capable of
being ported to multiple platforms.  2) something you can carry.

Since we offer portable code, ports of the binaries and a portable
version, it is hard to avoid confusion here ;-)


The link says:
Portable USB version and other third-party portings


I think Third-party ports including a portable USB version is better US 
English.


and the title:
Get Apache OpenOffice as portable USB version or choose from other third-party 
portings


Get third-party ports of Apache OpenOffice including a portable USB version.


I want to put the portable thing first as it seems to be the more 
important info. So, how to do it in better English?



Shouldn't this be enough to make it clear? Or is it better when I replace Portable USB 
version with Portable USB App?


If we say App then users will be thinking App Store.


OK

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Re: Is anyone else having CMS errors?

2013-07-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 For example, when I try to apply Xuacu 's recent patch from the list I
 get this message:


 Not Found

 The requested URL
 /ooo-site/wc/diff/robweir-anonymous-epVYtB/trunk/content/ast/index.html
 was not found on this server.

 I get a similar error if I try to use the bookmarklet to edit other
 pages.   Tried on two machines and saw this error yesterday as well.

 Anyone else seeing this?

 -Rob


I didn't see thsi but when I tried to use bookmarket to edit something on
openoffice.apache.org last week, what I saw on index.html wasn't up to
date, so I ended up editing via my svn client.  Something seems amiss.


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Re: Is anyone else having CMS errors?

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/28/2013 08:39 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


For example, when I try to apply Xuacu 's recent patch from the list I
get this message:


Not Found

The requested URL
/ooo-site/wc/diff/robweir-anonymous-epVYtB/trunk/content/ast/index.html
was not found on this server.

I get a similar error if I try to use the bookmarklet to edit other
pages.   Tried on two machines and saw this error yesterday as well.

Anyone else seeing this?

-Rob



I didn't see thsi but when I tried to use bookmarket to edit something on
openoffice.apache.org last week, what I saw on index.html wasn't up to
date, so I ended up editing via my svn client.  Something seems amiss.


I've done a little test commit, no errors.

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installation ooo4

2013-07-28 Thread gauci gilles
cela ne marche pas au moment installation il manque 1 fichier essayer 3 fois 

Re: installation ooo4

2013-07-28 Thread Sylvain DENIS

Bonjour

sur quel système êtes-vous?

Quelle version avez-vous téléchargé ?

Bien à vous

Sylvain DENIS


Le 28/07/13 21:12, gauci gilles a écrit :

cela ne marche pas au moment installation il manque 1 fichier essayer 3 fois



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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 07/28/2013 06:28 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
 
 On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:46 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 
 Am 07/28/2013 02:18 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   
 wrote:
 Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:
 
 On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote:
 
 Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 
 On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:
 
 Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.
 
 
 But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
 too hidden in our download infrastructure.
 
 What's the best solution to ensure that:
 1) Users can actually find the portable version and
 2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?
 
 My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
 modify
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
 as follows: add it to the line that says
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
 SDK |
 so that it becomes
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
 SDK | Third-party and portable versions
 
 and to link the additional text to
 http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
 so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if 
 we
 have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.
 
 
 To have a visible impression see here:
 
 
 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
 
 
 +1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I
 am
 no native speaker.
 
 
 Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what our
 native speakers will say.
 
 
 ports is more usual in a software context.
 
 But portable is ambiguous, since it means two things:  1) capable of
 being ported to multiple platforms.  2) something you can carry.
 
 Since we offer portable code, ports of the binaries and a portable
 version, it is hard to avoid confusion here ;-)
 
 The link says:
 Portable USB version and other third-party portings
 
 I think Third-party ports including a portable USB version is better US 
 English.
 
 and the title:
 Get Apache OpenOffice as portable USB version or choose from other 
 third-party portings
 
 Get third-party ports of Apache OpenOffice including a portable USB 
 version.
 
 I want to put the portable thing first as it seems to be the more important 
 info. So, how to do it in better English?

Link: Portable USB versions and third-party ports.

Title: Get Apache OpenOffice software packaged as portable USB versions and 
third-party ports.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Shouldn't this be enough to make it clear? Or is it better when I replace 
 Portable USB version with Portable USB App?
 
 If we say App then users will be thinking App Store.
 
 OK
 
 Marcus
 
 
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Re: [Request for help][Download] Download AOO via mobile devices?

2013-07-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

 Am 07/27/2013 10:40 PM, schrieb sebb:

  On 27 July 2013 21:19, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

 Sometimes we get comments from users like I cannot find AOO for my
 iPhone
 or similar.

 Instead of leaving them alone I've started to update the DL scripting to
 recognize platforms and operating systems that AOO does not support. But
 instead of give an error back or just do nothing, the scripting shows
 that
 the release for the (hopefully currectly) recognized platform / OS is not
 available and points to the other.html webpage.

 Now I would like to ask you to test this with devices and OSes you have
 available to see how it works and where it has to be improved:

 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

 a) Is the device or OS recognized and stated correctly?
 b) Which combinations are not recognized and instead the term unknown
 OS
 is shown?

 Please remember:
 The analyze webpage will help to see what is recognized and actually
 shown:

 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**analyze.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html

 Please open BZ issues for these problems:

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/


 Maybe a single BZ issue would be better than one per reporter?

 There could be a lot of issues created; it's likely there will be many
 duplicates.

 Perhaps create a generic issue and link to it from this email thread.


 I expect to get a copy of the analyze webpage to see the details. So, many
 users paste their data into a single issue will mess this up totally. IMHO
 seperate issues are better to manage this - even when there will be some
 duplicates. And when I do the fixes fast then there won't be much dups.
 (yes, joking) :-P

 BTW:
 Thanks a lot for your different suggestions. They help to improve the
 increase the user experience for the download webpages.


 Marcus


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OK, here's mine --

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122877

I don't know if it's right or wrong but I know I can not install this on my
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Re: [Request for help][Download] Download AOO via mobile devices?

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/28/2013 10:14 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Am 07/27/2013 10:40 PM, schrieb sebb:

  On 27 July 2013 21:19, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   wrote:



Sometimes we get comments from users like I cannot find AOO for my
iPhone
or similar.

Instead of leaving them alone I've started to update the DL scripting to
recognize platforms and operating systems that AOO does not support. But
instead of give an error back or just do nothing, the scripting shows
that
the release for the (hopefully currectly) recognized platform / OS is not
available and points to the other.html webpage.

Now I would like to ask you to test this with devices and OSes you have
available to see how it works and where it has to be improved:

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

a) Is the device or OS recognized and stated correctly?
b) Which combinations are not recognized and instead the term unknown
OS
is shown?

Please remember:
The analyze webpage will help to see what is recognized and actually
shown:

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**analyze.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html

Please open BZ issues for these problems:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/



Maybe a single BZ issue would be better than one per reporter?

There could be a lot of issues created; it's likely there will be many
duplicates.

Perhaps create a generic issue and link to it from this email thread.



I expect to get a copy of the analyze webpage to see the details. So, many
users paste their data into a single issue will mess this up totally. IMHO
seperate issues are better to manage this - even when there will be some
duplicates. And when I do the fixes fast then there won't be much dups.
(yes, joking) :-P

BTW:
Thanks a lot for your different suggestions. They help to improve the
increase the user experience for the download webpages.


Marcus


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OK, here's mine --

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122877

I don't know if it's right or wrong but I know I can not install this on my
tablet.


It's wrong. The shown text should be different. In general it's the same 
situation Andrea was facing. However, with a tablet the browser data 
seem a bit different and therefore need a different handling, too.


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OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly

2013-07-28 Thread Robert Hupp

OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly


Hi Frank and OpenOffice workers,

yesterday I installed OpenOffice 4.0.0 retaining 3.4.1. Copying a wiki 
article OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashed consistently. Example: The 
crashing point lies within the highlighted area (text made with Writer 
3.4.1 and copied to Thunderbird), between Français 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme and Links bearbeiten 
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q47783#sitelinks-wikipedia:


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne  ==  In anderen Sprachen 
Alemannisch http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne ??? 
http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F_%3F%3F%3F_%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F_%28%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%29 
Az?rbaycanca http://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernizm ?? 
http://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F 
?? (???)? 
http://be-x-old.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F 
? 
http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F Bosanski 
http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernizam Català 
http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernitat C(esky 
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderna Cymraeg 
http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4l-foderniaeth Dansk 
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme  
http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F 
English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism Esperanto 
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernismo Español 
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posmodernidad Eesti 
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism Euskara 
http://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernitate ? 
http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F Suomi 
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernismi
Français http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme ?? 
http://gan.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F Galego 
http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posmodernismo? 
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FHrvatski 
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernaMagyar 
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/PosztmodernInterlingua 
http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernismoBahasa Indonesia 
http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernismeIdo 
http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernismo Íslenska 
http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%F3stm%F3dernismiItaliano 
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernismo??? 
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F??? 
http://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F??? 
http://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F??? http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FKurdî 
http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern%EEzmLimburgs 
http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posmodernisme Lietuviu; 
http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernizmasLatviešu 
http://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisms?? 
http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F?? 
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FBahasa Melayu 
http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascamodenisme ?? 
http://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FNederlands 
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernismeNorsk nynorsk 
http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernismeNorsk bokmål 
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme 
http://os.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F 
?? 
http://pa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FPolski 
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernizm_%28filozofia%29Português 
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%F3s-modernidadeRomâna( 
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism??? 
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FSrpskohrvatski 
/ ?? http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernizamSimple 
English http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism Slovenc(ina 
http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmodernaShqip 
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernizmi?? / srpski 
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FSvenska 
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism ? 
http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F??? 
http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FTürkçe 
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernizm???/tatarça 
http://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F?? 
http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FTie^'ng 
Vie^.t 
http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%3F_ngh%3Fa_h%3Fu_hi%3Fn_%3F%3Fi?? 
http://wuu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F ?? 
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3FBân-lâm-gú 
http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3Fu-hi%3Fn-t%3Fi-ch%FA-g%3FLinks 
bearbeiten http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q47783#sitelinks-wikipedia


At this opportunity many thanks for your work!
Best greetings
Robert Hupp



Re: paste/clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

2013-07-28 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 28/07/2013 18:39, Kay Schenk a écrit :

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:


There are 2 bug reports, I guess that we can make one the duplicate of the
other:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=113171https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113171
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=49907https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=49907
Forum topic updated with the relevant topics and bug reports.

Hagar



I hope the folks on issue 113171 can re-test with AOO 4.0. I went through a
few of the steps just now on AOO 4.0 with my Linux version and everything
works as expected. One system clipboard doing what you would expect.


I don't think that bugs are fixed this easily!
Note that this bug is not that frequent. So wait and see.

Hagar

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Draft blog post: Interview with the developers of PrOOo-Box

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=interview_with_the_developers_of

I've reviewed it already with the PrOO-Box guys, and they provided the
German translation.  And the English translation as well ;-)

-Rob

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Re: Draft blog post: Interview with the developers of PrOOo-Box

2013-07-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:21:01 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=interview_with_the_developers_of
 
 I've reviewed it already with the PrOO-Box guys, and they provided the
 German translation.  And the English translation as well ;-)
 
Very interesting. will follow up when I have time.

Wrong spelling: continue wrong in quote from German user in the blog.



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Re: Draft blog post: Interview with the developers of PrOOo-Box

2013-07-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=interview_with_the_developers_of

 I've reviewed it already with the PrOO-Box guys, and they provided the
 German translation.  And the English translation as well ;-)

 -Rob


I think this is a very nice way of supporting our volunteer ecosystem.
Hopefully, we can identify others that would like to participate this way
as well.

One little typo I've identified (second question):
*fromthe*


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Re: Draft blog post: Interview with the developers of PrOOo-Box

2013-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=interview_with_the_developers_of

 I've reviewed it already with the PrOO-Box guys, and they provided the
 German translation.  And the English translation as well ;-)

 -Rob


 I think this is a very nice way of supporting our volunteer ecosystem.
 Hopefully, we can identify others that would like to participate this way
 as well.


Good candidates would be:  representatives from specific NL
communities, especially ones that have done something local that is
interesting.  Also extension authors are good to interview.  Maybe one
also the OS/2 port?  (We already did blog posts on the BSD and Solaris
ports)

 One little typo I've identified (second question):
 *fromthe*


I couldn't find this.  Maybe someone already fixed it?

Regards,

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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Balaji Arun
Hello Dave and Marcus

Please consider AOO Installation free USB port.

Thanks
Balaji Arun

--- Original Message ---

From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
Sent: July 28, 2013 12:28 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated


On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:46 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 07/28/2013 02:18 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:
 Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:

 On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   wrote:

 Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

 On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

 Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.


 But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
 too hidden in our download infrastructure.

 What's the best solution to ensure that:
 1) Users can actually find the portable version and
 2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

 My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
 modify

 http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
 as follows: add it to the line that says
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
 SDK |
 so that it becomes
 Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
 SDK | Third-party and portable versions

 and to link the additional text to
 http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
 so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
 have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.


 To have a visible impression see here:


 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html


 +1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I
 am
 no native speaker.


 Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what our
 native speakers will say.


 ports is more usual in a software context.

 But portable is ambiguous, since it means two things:  1) capable of
 being ported to multiple platforms.  2) something you can carry.

 Since we offer portable code, ports of the binaries and a portable
 version, it is hard to avoid confusion here ;-)

 The link says:
 Portable USB version and other third-party portings

I think Third-party ports including a portable USB version is better US 
English.


 and the title:
 Get Apache OpenOffice as portable USB version or choose from other 
 third-party portings

Get third-party ports of Apache OpenOffice including a portable USB version.


 Shouldn't this be enough to make it clear? Or is it better when I replace 
 Portable USB version with Portable USB App?

If we say App then users will be thinking App Store.

Regards,
Dave


 Marcus


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Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/29/2013 12:04 AM, schrieb Balaji Arun:

Hello Dave and Marcus

Please consider AOO Installation free USB port.


It's not only the portable version we want to mention, it's also about 
the other ports. Sorry but I'll keep Dave's suggestion as it sounds 
better regarding the English language.


Marcus




--- Original Message ---

From: Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net
Sent: July 28, 2013 12:28 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated


On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:46 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 07/28/2013 02:18 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   wrote:

Am 07/28/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb janI:


On 28 July 2013 13:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote:


Am 07/28/2013 12:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


On 24/07/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:


Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed.



But a lot of people are missing it due to the portable version being
too hidden in our download infrastructure.

What's the best solution to ensure that:
1) Users can actually find the portable version and
2) Users are correctly informed that this is a third-party port?

My proposal (subject to lazy consensus or discussion here) would be to
modify

http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
as follows: add it to the line that says
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK |
so that it becomes
Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and
SDK | Third-party and portable versions

and to link the additional text to
http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
so that people are correctly informed. This also ensures that when/if we
have other portable versions available nothing needs to be changed.



To have a visible impression see here:


http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html



+1, is portings the right word ? my dictionary suggest ports,  but I
am
no native speaker.



Hm, my favorite online dictionary says portings. ;-) Let's see what our
native speakers will say.



ports is more usual in a software context.

But portable is ambiguous, since it means two things:  1) capable of
being ported to multiple platforms.  2) something you can carry.

Since we offer portable code, ports of the binaries and a portable
version, it is hard to avoid confusion here ;-)


The link says:
Portable USB version and other third-party portings


I think Third-party ports including a portable USB version is better US 
English.



and the title:
Get Apache OpenOffice as portable USB version or choose from other third-party 
portings


Get third-party ports of Apache OpenOffice including a portable USB version.



Shouldn't this be enough to make it clear? Or is it better when I replace Portable USB 
version with Portable USB App?


If we say App then users will be thinking App Store.

Regards,
Dave



Marcus


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[CMS PATCH] Asturian language

2013-07-28 Thread Anonymous CMS User
Clone URL (Committers only):
https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/ast%2Fdownload%2Findex.html

Please, review the Download page for Asturian.

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Index: trunk/content/ast/download/index.html
===
--- trunk/content/ast/download/index.html   (revision 1507827)
+++ trunk/content/ast/download/index.html   (working copy)
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
-html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; /
+html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang=ast /
 head
   meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
-  titleApache OpenOffice Downloads - Official Site/title
+  titleDescargues d'Apache OpenOffice - Sitiu oficial/title
   script type=text/javascript src=/download/globalvars.js/script
   script type=text/javascript src=/download/download.js/script
   script type=text/javascript src=/download/languages.js/script
@@ -20,15 +20,15 @@
 
 function shareFacebook() {
   _gaq.push(['_trackEvent','social', 'shareDownload', 'facebook']); 
-  
window.open('https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');

+  
window.open('https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fast%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
  
 }
 function shareTwitter(){
   _gaq.push(['_trackEvent','social', 'shareDownload', 'twitter']); 
-  
window.open('https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2Ftext=Join+the+OpenOffice+revolution%2C+the+free+office+productivity+suite+with+over+50+million+trusted+downloads.hashtags=openoffice','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
+  
window.open('https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fast%2Fdownload%2Ftext=Participa+na+revoluci%F3n+OpenOffice%2C+les+aplicaciones+llibres+pa+oficina+con+m%E1s+de+50+millones+de+descargues.hashtags=openoffice','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
 }
 function shareGooglePlus(){
   _gaq.push(['_trackEvent','social', 'shareDownload', 'google+']); 
-  
window.open('https://plus.google.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
+  
window.open('https://plus.google.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fast%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
 }
   /script
 /head
@@ -51,48 +51,48 @@
   // OS and/or package manager was not recognized, therefore use 
other.html as download link.
   document.write( div class=\first button green\ id=\optionitem1\ 
onclick=\openItem('optionitem1','
   + LINK + '); + return false;\ );
-  document.write( h2a href=' + LINK + ' title=' + LINK + 
'Download Apache OpenOffice  + VERSION + /a/h2
-  + pa href=' + LINK + ' title=' + LINK + 'Click here for the 
most recent version for 
-  + b + UI_PLATFORM + /b and b + LANG_ARRAY[ 2 ] + 
/b./a/pbr /);
+  document.write( h2a href=' + LINK + ' title=' + LINK + 
'Descargar Apache OpenOffice  + VERSION + /a/h2
+  + pa href=' + LINK + ' title=' + LINK + 'Calque equí pa la 
versión más nueva pa 
+  + b + UI_PLATFORM + /b y b + LANG_ARRAY[ 2 ] + 
/b./a/pbr /);
 } else {
 */
   // Download directly from a mirror with displayed platform and language.
   document.write( div class=\first button green\ id=\optionitem1\ 
onclick=\openItem('optionitem1','
   + LINK + '); + return false;\ );
   document.write( h2a href=' + LINK + ' title='Version  + VERSION + 
 - Milestone  + MILESTONE
-  +  - Build ID  + BUILD +  - SVN  + SVN_REV + 'Download Apache 
OpenOffice  + VERSION + /a/h2
+  +  - Build ID  + BUILD +  - SVN  + SVN_REV + 'Descargar Apache 
OpenOffice  + VERSION + /a/h2
   + pa href=' + LINK + ' title='Version  + VERSION +  - Milestone 
 + MILESTONE
-  +  - Build ID  + BUILD +  - SVN  + SVN_REV + 'Click here for the 
most recent version for 
-  + b + UI_PLATFORM + /b and b + LANG_ARRAY[ 2 ] + 
/b./a/p);
+  +  - Build ID  + BUILD +  - SVN  + SVN_REV + 'Calque equí pa la 
versión más nueva pa 
+  + b + UI_PLATFORM + /b y b + LANG_ARRAY[ 2 ] + 
/b./a/p);
 //  }
   } else {
 // Download from an alternative webpage if hasMirrorLink() == false.
 document.write( div class=\first button green\ id=\optionitem1\ 
onclick=\openItem('optionitem1','
 + LANG_ARRAY[ 3 ] + '); + return false;\ );
 document.write( h2a href=' + LANG_ARRAY[ 4 ] + ' title=' + 
LANG_ARRAY[ 4 ] + '
-+ Download Apache OpenOffice  + VERSION + /a/h2
-+ pa href=' + LANG_ARRAY[ 4 ] + ' title=' + LANG_ARRAY[ 4 ] + 'A 
release for 
-+ b + LANG_ARRAY[ 2 ] +  ( + LANG_ARRAY[ 1 ] + 

Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated

2013-07-28 Thread Marcelo Santana
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:56:03 -0700, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi. Thanks for this.

Sorry for my delay. I'm not a subscriber of this mailing list.

 I think your command line instruction of:
 
 $ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
 
 probably needs to be changed to
 
 $ /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice
 
 Also the PATH instruction.

You are absolutely correct. I had corrected it in pt_BR version but I
forgot to correct in en_US version. :-/

Thank you very much for remember me.

 Looks good, otherwise!
 
 We will add this link to our install instructions.

Thank you for your feedback. Please let me know if you have any problem
or question.

Kind regards,

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