review denied: [Bug 122922] Writer crashes when deleting a row from a table after copying a text from a cell in the same row : [Attachment 81239] reverse the iteration to keep the iterators valid afte

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla
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h...@apache.org's request for review:
Bug 122922: Writer crashes when deleting a row from a table after copying a
text from a cell in the same row
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122922

Attachment 81239: reverse the iteration to keep the iterators valid after an
erase
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=81239action=edit


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Introduction

2013-08-19 Thread Jie Zheng
Hello, everyone! My name is Jack Chin. I'm from China. I am very interested
in openoffice and an old user of it. I am especially interested in 3d
graphic part because I am going to do some serious job on these aspects. So
how could I select a module and where to start, I am a little confused.


Re: Example of spreadsheet formula testing

2013-08-19 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 16.08.2013 21:37, Regina Henschel wrote:

Rob Weir schrieb:

Moving this topic to its own thread.

It should be possible to code a very thorough set of test cases in a
spreadsheet, without using macros or anything fancy.  Just careful
reading of the ODF 1.2 specification and simple spreadsheet logic.



Following the spec is not enough. For example, if the accuracy decreases
from 14 digits to 7 digits, that is not covered by the spec.

skip test case example description


If we used an approach like this on the other spreadsheet functions,
we could have a semi-automated test suite that would practically
guarantee that Calc is free of calculations errors.  Once we're
written the test cases, a modest upfront investment


modest? One function a day and you need more than a year.

, it will benefit

us with every release we do.  Heck, it would benefit LibreOffice,
Gnumeric, Calligra as well, maybe even Microsoft and Google, though
they might already have such test cases defined internally.


I see a problem in how such a test suite is made available. And how the
results for a special release are collected.

The problem with the current test cases is, that I do not know where
they are, how they are to use and how to generate new ones. It is a
closed book, only for insiders.


An example of a test case where a formula (addition) is checked is in 
[1]. This file is clean and easy enough that it could be used as a 
template for more formula checks.


[1] 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/AddtionOperatorInFormula.java


The general topic on getting started with test automation is covered in [2].

[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/test_automation_guide


Anyone interesting in helping with this kind of test case development?


There exist some files already in Bugzilla. I used to make test
documents, when working on functions. I think, that they can be extended
to work in a way, that a simple look on it will tell errors. But I have
no ready collection on my PC and most will be already deleted from my PC
in the meantime.

One problem is, that comparisons with constants have to be written in a
way, that they are independent from local. Eike has once corrected one
of my test spreadsheets that way.



Any ideas on how to fully automate this?  ODF 1.2 is very strict, so
we're not starting from a  perfect score.  But we should find an easy
way to report on regressions.


If you will automate this, you will need to develop a frame. But
automation is not the total solution. Testing can be a way to bring user
into the community. And tests have to cover different languages and
scripts. I remember errors reported to LibreOffice, where a time
calculation was wrong only in special locals. To extend a testing frame
to consider this would be very expensive.


There is no need to develop a new framework. Please check Zhe Liu's 
wonderful work on test automation that I referenced above [2] that is 
already available in our test/ directory. It is very powerful, clean 
and relatively easy to use.


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Re: target.mk and default make target.

2013-08-19 Thread janI
Thanks andre and herbert for the fast reply.

genPO: .ROOT gives a circular dependency, which is understandable when I
read startup

genPO: .INIT works but does not make the application.

genPO: $(TARGET) also does not work.

Somehow replacing $(TARGET) might the the easiest solution.

Why do I have a feeling of slowly getting to know the build system
internally. Not sure I like that feeling, because the more I see the more I
get an urge to change it :-)

rgds
jan I.



On 19 August 2013 10:26, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi Jan,


 On 19.08.2013 09:39, janI wrote:

 I am trying to find the default target for the build process.

 In any directory e.g. l10ntools, we can run build which calls dmake
 without parameters.

 Nearly all makefile.mk includes target.mk, where all target rules seems
 to
 be defined.

 The de facto standard is to have all: defined, but thats not defined
 (neither is default:).

 what is the default target, and in which file is it defined ?


 AFAIK There is no default target. The project specific target is set with
 a TARGET= line. For the l10ntools case there are many of these lines in
 several makefile.mk of its subdirectories.


  I have changed the build system so you can say build --genPO to extract
 sources, but I need to have the default target made for a small set
 (solenv, soltools and l10ntools).


 These modules use TARGET= lines too. Does it help if you change these
 targets e.g. to TARGET=all to emulate a default target of all:?

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Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Dorian Baciu
Hello!
Several days, on your site (http://www.openoffice.org/download/), the link for 
downloading OpenOffive ver. 4.0 disappeared? Where can I download OpenOffice 
ver. 4.0 on your website?

Thank you and best regards.

Dorian Baciu


Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Michał Mulawa

Hi
so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the 
following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main 
things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse 
addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to 
download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I 
suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any 
account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you force me 
to share such an information?


the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I 
hope you fix this...



regards,
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Re: AOO on Debian/Ubuntu via APT Repositories

2013-08-19 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 16.08.2013 18:25, Marcelo Santana wrote:

*PS: BTW does anybody know how the AOO's Debian packages are built?


From my answer from last Wednesday to Mike Dupont:

AOO creates its Debian packages using EPM [1] when the configure option 
--with-package-format=deb is given to the AOO build. They are 
assembled when AOO builds its main/postprocess module using some perl 
scripts in main/solenv/bin/


[1] http://www.msweet.org/projects.php?Z2

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Password protected Word Documents

2013-08-19 Thread c . grefkens

Dear all,
We are/were using MS Office2003. We are currently changing some
workstations to OpenOffice.
Our integration to OpenOffice is going very well but we are experiencing
some problems.
Word Documents that are password protected can only be read, not changed.
It is possible to save it to an .ODT and then we can work with it but since
Word can't read .ODT files, it's a bit of a problem for us since not all of
of our colleagues are working with OpenOffice.
I have read on the internet that there are many people with the same
problem and for some time also.
WIll there be an update for it???




Met vriendelijke groet / Yours sincerely,

Cornee Grefkens
Systeembeheerder

Plieger B.V.
Koxkampseweg 6
5301 KK Zaltbommel

T  +31 (0)418 682608
M +31 (0)6 38829681

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Re: Example of spreadsheet formula testing

2013-08-19 Thread janI
On 19 August 2013 10:43, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

 On 16.08.2013 21:37, Regina Henschel wrote:

 Rob Weir schrieb:

 Moving this topic to its own thread.

 It should be possible to code a very thorough set of test cases in a
 spreadsheet, without using macros or anything fancy.  Just careful
 reading of the ODF 1.2 specification and simple spreadsheet logic.


 Following the spec is not enough. For example, if the accuracy decreases
 from 14 digits to 7 digits, that is not covered by the spec.

 skip test case example description

  If we used an approach like this on the other spreadsheet functions,
 we could have a semi-automated test suite that would practically
 guarantee that Calc is free of calculations errors.  Once we're
 written the test cases, a modest upfront investment


 modest? One function a day and you need more than a year.

 , it will benefit

 us with every release we do.  Heck, it would benefit LibreOffice,
 Gnumeric, Calligra as well, maybe even Microsoft and Google, though
 they might already have such test cases defined internally.


 I see a problem in how such a test suite is made available. And how the
 results for a special release are collected.

 The problem with the current test cases is, that I do not know where
 they are, how they are to use and how to generate new ones. It is a
 closed book, only for insiders.


 An example of a test case where a formula (addition) is checked is in
 [1]. This file is clean and easy enough that it could be used as a template
 for more formula checks.

 [1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/trunk/test/**
 testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/**formula/**AddtionOperatorInFormula.javahttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/AddtionOperatorInFormula.java

 The general topic on getting started with test automation is covered in
 [2].

 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/QA/test_automation_guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/test_automation_guide

  Anyone interesting in helping with this kind of test case development?


 There exist some files already in Bugzilla. I used to make test
 documents, when working on functions. I think, that they can be extended
 to work in a way, that a simple look on it will tell errors. But I have
 no ready collection on my PC and most will be already deleted from my PC
 in the meantime.

 One problem is, that comparisons with constants have to be written in a
 way, that they are independent from local. Eike has once corrected one
 of my test spreadsheets that way.


 Any ideas on how to fully automate this?  ODF 1.2 is very strict, so
 we're not starting from a  perfect score.  But we should find an easy
 way to report on regressions.


 If you will automate this, you will need to develop a frame. But
 automation is not the total solution. Testing can be a way to bring user
 into the community. And tests have to cover different languages and
 scripts. I remember errors reported to LibreOffice, where a time
 calculation was wrong only in special locals. To extend a testing frame
 to consider this would be very expensive.


 There is no need to develop a new framework. Please check Zhe Liu's
 wonderful work on test automation that I referenced above [2] that is
 already available in our test/ directory. It is very powerful, clean and
 relatively easy to use.


not only does it look very powerful, the documentation is easy to read and
seems very complete.

Am I correct in assuming, this is not used today for our current testing ?

If a couple of the testers started to use that and update/expand with their
tests, it would cost nearly the same time as the test does today, but with
the huge benefit, that we can repeat the test as often as we like.

big +1 from me, to get us running down this path.


rgds
jan I.


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bug with FDF

2013-08-19 Thread Sylvain DENIS
Hello,
this small mail to report a bug.
I work under Ubuntu.
Is it just Apache OpenOffice or it just Evince? I don't know.
I don't know if it's only on Ubuntu .
I created a form that I exported to FDF. no problem.
When I open it with Evince to fill, the list fields are blank but it
works (in invisible). When moving the cursor to change the value, it
changes, but it is not obvious without seeing anything;)

Sylvain DENIS
AOO Belgium

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:53:32 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:

 Hi
 so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the 
 following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main 
 things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse 
 addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to 
 download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I 
 suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any 
 account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you force me 
 to share such an information?
 
 the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I 
 hope you fix this...
 
 
 regards,
 mike
 
 
Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and upgrade. If it 
 doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:53:32 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:

 Hi
 so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the 
 following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main 
 things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse 
 addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to 
 download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I 
 suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any 
 account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you force me 
 to share such an information?
 
 the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I 
 hope you fix this...
 
 
 regards,
 mike
 

Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and upgrade. If it 
 doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:36:06 +0300
Dorian Baciu baciu_dor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello!
 Several days, on your site (http://www.openoffice.org/download/), the link 
 for downloading OpenOffive ver. 4.0 disappeared? Where can I download 
 OpenOffice ver. 4.0 on your website?
 
 Thank you and best regards.
 
 Dorian Baciu

Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and upgrade. If it 
 doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Michał Mulawa wrote:

so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the
following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main
things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse
addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to
download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so.


There must be some JavaScript problem with your browser/language 
configuration: normally you should see a green download button.


Please download from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

but please write again to the dev list copying and pasting the table you 
see at http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html : this will 
help us fix the problem.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Example of spreadsheet formula testing

2013-08-19 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jan,

janI schrieb:

On 19 August 2013 12:24, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:


[..]

But for both kind of testing there exists a problem with expected
values. For example, calculation of PMT needs expm1 and log1p, or
calculation of LINEST needs lot of matrix calculation. It is not impossible
to calculate this with Java, but who will do it? And when you use constant
expected values, from where do you get them and how to ensure, that they
are valid?



Just one simple question, how do you do manually today ? use the same
constants.


I use my MuPad 3.1 and sometimes calculate values on 
http://www.wolframalpha.com/


Or I compare the values to those from Gnumeric and Excel. Having the 
same value does not mean that they are correct, but the other way round, 
having different values means that I have to investigate it.




We should not try to invent a total new road, just do what we do today more
efficiently.


Suggestions?

Kind regards
Regina




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Re: Strange phrase on download page: with other users

2013-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:16:34 +0100
sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are two sentences on the download page which read very oddly to me:
 
 1) Extend your Apache OpenOffice functionality with a large and
 growing library of extensions and dictionaries with other users.
 
 2) Extend your Apache OpenOffice creativity with a large and growing
 library of templates with other users.
 
 I don't understand the phrase with other users.
 Well, obviously I understand the words, but they don't make sense to
 me in that context.
 
 Can anyone enlighten me what the phrase is intended to mean here?
 
 If the phrase were dropped entirely, the sentences would make sense to me.
 
In both cases, if the with is replaced by from the phrases make sense.


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:10:09 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:

 W dniu 2013-08-19 11:23, Rory O'Farrell pisze:
  On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:53:32 +0200
  Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:
 
  Hi
  so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the
  following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main
  things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse
  addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to
  download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I
  suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any
  account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you force me
  to share such an information?
 
  the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I
  hope you fix this...
 
 
  regards,
  mike
 
  Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and upgrade. 
  If it  doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.
 
 I followed your advice, and cleared the cache. Still the same - check 
 out the attached screenshot. I am using FF 23.0.1.

Later posts to this thread have suggested it may be a Java problem on your 
computer, which you may or may not wish to settle/install. This URL ought take 
you direct to a more complex download page, where yu can select the exact 
operating system version and language you require.
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

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Re: target.mk and default make target.

2013-08-19 Thread Andre Fischer

On 19.08.2013 10:44, janI wrote:

Thanks andre and herbert for the fast reply.

genPO: .ROOT gives a circular dependency, which is understandable when I
read startup

genPO: .INIT works but does not make the application.

genPO: $(TARGET) also does not work.


Have you tried

genPO: $(ALLTAR)?

-Andre


Somehow replacing $(TARGET) might the the easiest solution.

Why do I have a feeling of slowly getting to know the build system
internally. Not sure I like that feeling, because the more I see the more I
get an urge to change it :-)

rgds
jan I.



On 19 August 2013 10:26, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:


Hi Jan,


On 19.08.2013 09:39, janI wrote:


I am trying to find the default target for the build process.

In any directory e.g. l10ntools, we can run build which calls dmake
without parameters.

Nearly all makefile.mk includes target.mk, where all target rules seems
to
be defined.

The de facto standard is to have all: defined, but thats not defined
(neither is default:).

what is the default target, and in which file is it defined ?


AFAIK There is no default target. The project specific target is set with
a TARGET= line. For the l10ntools case there are many of these lines in
several makefile.mk of its subdirectories.


  I have changed the build system so you can say build --genPO to extract

sources, but I need to have the default target made for a small set
(solenv, soltools and l10ntools).


These modules use TARGET= lines too. Does it help if you change these
targets e.g. to TARGET=all to emulate a default target of all:?

Herbert


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Michał Mulawa

W dniu 2013-08-19 12:46, Rory O'Farrell pisze:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:10:09 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:


W dniu 2013-08-19 11:23, Rory O'Farrell pisze:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:53:32 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:


Hi
so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the
following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main
things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse
addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to
download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I
suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any
account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you force me
to share such an information?

the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I
hope you fix this...


regards,
mike


Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and upgrade. If it 
 doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.


I followed your advice, and cleared the cache. Still the same - check
out the attached screenshot. I am using FF 23.0.1.

Later posts to this thread have suggested it may be a Java problem on your 
computer, which you may or may not wish to settle/install. This URL ought take 
you direct to a more complex download page, where yu can select the exact 
operating system version and language you require.
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html



I see some kind of error in JS console:

TypeError: release_aoo400_matrix[LANG_ISO] is undefined
http://www.openoffice.org/download/download.js
Line 345

thanks for the direct link


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Re: target.mk and default make target.

2013-08-19 Thread janI
On 19 August 2013 12:55, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 On 19.08.2013 10:44, janI wrote:

 Thanks andre and herbert for the fast reply.

 genPO: .ROOT gives a circular dependency, which is understandable when I
 read startup

 genPO: .INIT works but does not make the application.

 genPO: $(TARGET) also does not work.


 Have you tried

 genPO: $(ALLTAR)?


I still have much to learn.

genPO: ALLTAR

seems to working, thats a fixed target nor a variable so no $()

thx a lot.
rgds
jan I.


 -Andre

  Somehow replacing $(TARGET) might the the easiest solution.

 Why do I have a feeling of slowly getting to know the build system
 internally. Not sure I like that feeling, because the more I see the more
 I
 get an urge to change it :-)

 rgds
 jan I.



 On 19 August 2013 10:26, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

  Hi Jan,


 On 19.08.2013 09:39, janI wrote:

  I am trying to find the default target for the build process.

 In any directory e.g. l10ntools, we can run build which calls dmake
 without parameters.

 Nearly all makefile.mk includes target.mk, where all target rules seems
 to
 be defined.

 The de facto standard is to have all: defined, but thats not defined
 (neither is default:).

 what is the default target, and in which file is it defined ?

  AFAIK There is no default target. The project specific target is set
 with
 a TARGET= line. For the l10ntools case there are many of these lines in
 several makefile.mk of its subdirectories.


   I have changed the build system so you can say build --genPO to
 extract

 sources, but I need to have the default target made for a small set
 (solenv, soltools and l10ntools).

  These modules use TARGET= lines too. Does it help if you change these
 targets e.g. to TARGET=all to emulate a default target of all:?

 Herbert


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Re: Password protected Word Documents

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:07 AM, c.grefk...@plieger.nl wrote:

 Dear all,
 We are/were using MS Office2003. We are currently changing some
 workstations to OpenOffice.
 Our integration to OpenOffice is going very well but we are experiencing
 some problems.
 Word Documents that are password protected can only be read, not changed.
 It is possible to save it to an .ODT and then we can work with it but
 since Word can't read .ODT files, it's a bit of a problem for us since not
 all of of our colleagues are working with OpenOffice.
 I have read on the internet that there are many people with the same
 problem and for some time also.
 WIll there be an update for it???


What version of OpenOffice are you running?  And on what operating system?

What happens when you try to save as a .DOC file?  You say it doesn't
work.  Do you get an error message?

Does the problem also occur with Word files that are not password protected?


-Rob





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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
I ran the download page through Browsershots.org, which renders it on
many different browsers and versions:

http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/

It looks like we're getting a Javascript error in I.E. 5.5, 6 and 7.

Regards,

-Rob

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:
 W dniu 2013-08-19 12:46, Rory O'Farrell pisze:

 On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:10:09 +0200
 Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:

 W dniu 2013-08-19 11:23, Rory O'Farrell pisze:

 On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:53:32 +0200
 Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:

 Hi
 so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the
 following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main
 things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse
 addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want
 to
 download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I
 suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any
 account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you force
 me
 to share such an information?

 the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I
 hope you fix this...


 regards,
 mike

 Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and
 upgrade. If it  doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.

 I followed your advice, and cleared the cache. Still the same - check
 out the attached screenshot. I am using FF 23.0.1.

 Later posts to this thread have suggested it may be a Java problem on your
 computer, which you may or may not wish to settle/install. This URL ought
 take you direct to a more complex download page, where yu can select the
 exact operating system version and language you require.
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html


 I see some kind of error in JS console:

 TypeError: release_aoo400_matrix[LANG_ISO] is undefined
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/download.js
 Line 345

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Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 (top posting)

 User SLV-es from ES forums proposed a new logo

 http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3924mode=view


Why aren't we just using the proper AOO logo, the same one we use on
the website, the blog, the wiki, etc.?  If we can do that then the
user will understand that this is an official website.  Consistency is
good for this.  And then you can have a text title that says
Community Support Forum or something like that.


-Rob


 On his own words, it needs some work but IMO it shows an interesting tweak,
 maintaining both, colours and fonts from original logo but with a variant
 that suggest help (the main forum purpose).

 I suggested the author to attach his proposal to the issue.

 Regards
 Ricardo





 2013/8/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 
  On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote:
 
  
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:
  
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org
 wrote:
   
   
   
Sent from my iPhone
   
On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
  wrote:
   
There is also other sites like extensions, www and
   openoffice.apache.org
,
blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need
 to be
updated.
   
Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there
 was a
dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there
 needs to
   be
some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance.
   
So the status is:
blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo
templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't
  have
the
previous logo at all.
   
I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a
 similar
   font
to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork.
   Andrea
recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb.
   
Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too?
   
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0
   
  
   The bugzilla does not answer my question.
  
   You used two fonts what are they and what is the license?
  
   IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change?
  
 
  I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at the
  source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the
  current AOO Logo.
 
 
 
  Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open
 sans
  is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans pro
  then Dave's question is perfectly valid.
 


 So we're all on the same page:  the AOO 4.0 Logo uses Source Sans Pro.
  This must not be changed without discussion and PMC approval.  If the
 idea is to update the old forum/wiki headers to use Source Sans Pro
 and new logo elements, then this sounds like the right direction.

 -Rob

  Regard
  Ricardo
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
   
   
   
   
An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the
  samples
and
sources.
   
   
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest 
   hagar.del...@laposte.net
wrote:
   
The question was raised in another thread but better have a
  dedicated
one.
   
What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will
 certainly
visit 3
areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today
 they
have 3
different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent
branding
to give users a kind of security feeling.
   
I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current
  headers
and
a proposal I've made very quickly:
 http://forum.openoffice.org/**
en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523
No need to register to see it so have a look.
The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at
  least
for
every areas, at the same location.
   
Hagar
   
  
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Use GDB but no debugging symbols found

2013-08-19 Thread 張仁瀚
Hello everyone,

Recent days I have tried to run AOO with GDB dor debugging. But
after I ran it(enter gdb ./soffice.bin), I got a message said no
debugging symbols found. And then I typed list, I got No symbol
table is loaded.

Here is log:

$ gdb ./soffice.bin
GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.4-2012.04-0ubuntu2.1) 7.4-2012.04
Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show copying
and show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as x86_64-linux-gnu.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
http://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/...
Reading symbols from /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice.bin...(no debugging
symbols found)...done.
(gdb) list
No symbol table is loaded.  Use the file command.


I have configured with --enable-symbols.
Here is my configure:

$ ./configure \
 
--with-dmake-url=http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
\
 --with-epm-url=http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
   \

 --enable-symbols  \
 --disable-odk \
 --disable-binfilter

It didn't show any error.

And here is my build command:

$ build debug=true dbg_build_only=true

and I also tried

build debug=true dbglevel=2

or

$ build debug=true dbg_build_only=true  dbglevel=2


No error showed but

after I installed it and ran with gdb, I got the same result : no
debugging symbols founds.

In fact, I am not very skillful in Linux system and AOO building system.

Maybe I lost something important needed to be done.

Thanks for your patience and help.


Regards,

   Yohey.


Re: Use GDB but no debugging symbols found

2013-08-19 Thread Jie Zheng
when you build something with gcc with -g option, gdb will find debugging
symbols. So maybe soffice.bin has been optimized to some extent.


2013/8/19 ��仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com

 Hello everyone,

 Recent days I have tried to run AOO with GDB dor debugging. But
 after I ran it(enter gdb ./soffice.bin), I got a message said no
 debugging symbols found. And then I typed list, I got No symbol
 table is loaded.

 Here is log:

 $ gdb ./soffice.bin
 GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.4-2012.04-0ubuntu2.1) 7.4-2012.04
 Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
 http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
 
 This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
 There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show copying
 and show warranty for details.
 This GDB was configured as x86_64-linux-gnu.
 For bug reporting instructions, please see:
 http://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/...
 Reading symbols from /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice.bin...(no debugging
 symbols found)...done.
 (gdb) list
 No symbol table is loaded.  Use the file command.


 I have configured with --enable-symbols.
 Here is my configure:

 $ ./configure \
  --with-dmake-url=
 http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
 \
  --with-epm-url=
 http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
\

  --enable-symbols  \
  --disable-odk \
  --disable-binfilter

 It didn't show any error.

 And here is my build command:

 $ build debug=true dbg_build_only=true

 and I also tried

 build debug=true dbglevel=2

 or

 $ build debug=true dbg_build_only=true  dbglevel=2


 No error showed but

 after I installed it and ran with gdb, I got the same result : no
 debugging symbols founds.

 In fact, I am not very skillful in Linux system and AOO building system.

 Maybe I lost something important needed to be done.

 Thanks for your patience and help.


 Regards,

Yohey.



Should download pages *require* Javascript?

2013-08-19 Thread sebb
The download page at present requires Javascript.
Without Javascript, there is no obvious way to download AOO 4.0 at all.

Note that the page http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html also
requires Javascript!

It's nice to be able to use Javascript to guess which download the
user wants, but I don't think that this convenience should be at the
expense of preventing users from finding the download link if they
don't have Javascript (or they have a broken version of Javascript).

How about having drop-down lists for the OS and Language?

Javascript could be used to preset the values, but at least the user
would remain in control, e.g. if the Javascript failed to recognise
their system or they wanted to download a different language from the
one supported by their browser.

Whatever method is chosen, I think it should be possible to download
AOO without the use of Javascript.

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Re: Example of spreadsheet formula testing

2013-08-19 Thread sebb
On 19 August 2013 11:41, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hi Jan,

 janI schrieb:

 On 19 August 2013 12:24, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:

 [..]

 But for both kind of testing there exists a problem with expected
 values. For example, calculation of PMT needs expm1 and log1p, or
 calculation of LINEST needs lot of matrix calculation. It is not
 impossible
 to calculate this with Java, but who will do it? And when you use
 constant
 expected values, from where do you get them and how to ensure, that they
 are valid?


 Just one simple question, how do you do manually today ? use the same
 constants.


 I use my MuPad 3.1 and sometimes calculate values on
 http://www.wolframalpha.com/

 Or I compare the values to those from Gnumeric and Excel. Having the same
 value does not mean that they are correct, but the other way round, having
 different values means that I have to investigate it.



 We should not try to invent a total new road, just do what we do today
 more
 efficiently.


 Suggestions?

If there are a *lot* of similar calculations that need to be tested,
then it might be worth investing some time looking at at ways to
expresss these simply as a script, and then write a parser to drive
the existing test code from the script, rather than having to update
the Java test code.

The advantage would be that just about anyone can create test cases,
and they are easy to check by hand.

However the parser may be a lot of work; I don't know.

Maybe there is already a suitable script language which already has
suitable examples?

Also there are various script interpreters that already undestand some
calculations, for example Commons JEXL.
It should be possible to use them to check the test cases, and
possibly even use as a basis for parsing the test cases.

 Kind regards
 Regina




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Re: cannot paste a web image into a presentation?

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,


 On 07.03.2012 09:16, lou ql wrote:

 On 6 March 2012 18:35, Oliver-Rainer
 Wittmannorwittm...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi,


 On 06.03.2012 03:41, lou ql wrote:

 URL:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**

 AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshotshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

 I tried copy the logo at the topleft of this page then paste into
 document/spreadsheet/**presentation, and find that the picture cannot be
 pasted into presentation. But I can do this in MS office 2010


 Currently, I have problems reproducing your problem.

 Can you please be a little bit more specific?
 How do you copy the image?
 Are you using a browser? Which one?

 I have done the following using latest snapshot build for Windows, rev.
 1296433:
 - open the website in Firefox
 - open context menu for the image
 - choose Copy Image
 - open an empty presentation document
 - hit keys Ctrl-V
 --  bitmap is pasted into the presentation.
 (Unfortunately, its background is black. I am experiencing the same in MS
 Paint. Thus, I assume that the copy process of Firefox does not
 recognized
 a possible existing Alpha channel for the transparency.)

 My 2nd try was:
 - open the website in Firefox
 - make a selection of the image using the mouse
 - hit keys Ctrl-C
 - open an empty presentation document
 - hit keys Ctrl-V
 --  nothing happens (the same happens in OOo 3.3). Reason for this is
 that
 the presentation document can not interpret the HTML in the clipboard.

 My 3rd try was:
 - open the website in Firefox
 - open context menu for the image
 - choose Copy Image Location
 - open an empty presentation document
 - menu Insert - Picture - From file
 - paste image URL into File name field
 - check checkbox Link
 - hit button Open
 --  image is inserted as linked image. It takes some time to download
 the
 image from the internet - I also had to allow the soffice.bin process to
 access the internet.


 I'm doing with the second way, it works in document and spreadsheet, also
 works in MS office PPT.



 Ok.
 Thus, this way is currently not supported by Impress - our presentation
 component.
 Thus, from my point of view this issue would be a request for enhancement.

 Note: Before pasting you can observe via menu edit - paste special what the
 corresponding application can interpret from the different available formats
 provided by the clipboard.


I think we have a regression here.

Steps:

1. Load Impress, Load Browser to http://www.openoffice.org

2. Right click on the AOO logo in upper left corner (a PNG file) and
Copy/Image (in Firefox) or Copy (in Internet Explorer)

3. In Impress, Edit Paste the image.(If you do Edit/Paste Special
the format is called bitmap)

Observed Behavior:

1. In AOO 3.4.1 the image pastes in correct in I.E. and Firefox on Windows

2. In AOO 4.0.0 the image pastes in as a solid black box in Firefox,
but pastes in correctly in I.E.  The same version of Firefox (23.0.1)
was used in both tests.

IMHO this is a serious issue, since it makes it very hard to reuse
graphics from the web.  The workaround is not very good -- save image
from web to a file and then import it into Impress.

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: Usability: dictionary updates and profile migration

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 On 03/08/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 I've just uploaded an updated version of the English dictionary. It is
 kept unpublished because of the usability issues below, but you can
 download it from http://extensions.openoffice.org/download/17415 ...

 Instead, if one is using 3.4.1 and decides to update the dictionary
 BEFORE updating OpenOffice, there are some usability issues. Everything
 will work, no matter what the user chooses, but is the following
 scenario acceptable to avoid too many support requests?


 Not seeing comments, I'll publish the updated dictionary in a couple of
 days. In the end this is not breaking anything, it just produces a Fatal
 Error (that is actually not fatal, and solved by simply restarting
 OpenOffice) during profile migration.


 Of course, 2.B looks like a profile migration bug to me: I've already
 chosen to keep my (newer) dictionary and OpenOffice insists on
 installing the old one.


 Reported as https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122976


I don't know if it is related, but we're starting to get a few reports
from confused users on Facebook.  It sounds like they are getting
dictionary upgrade notifications but are then lost when trying to
download/install the update.   It is coming down as a ZIP file rather
than an OXT.

-Rob



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   Andrea.

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Re: cannot paste a web image into a presentation?

2013-08-19 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Rob,

it is https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122920

Kind regards
Regina

Rob Weir schrieb:

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi,


On 07.03.2012 09:16, lou ql wrote:


On 6 March 2012 18:35, Oliver-Rainer
Wittmannorwittm...@googlemail.comwrote:


Hi,


On 06.03.2012 03:41, lou ql wrote:


URL:
https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**

AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshotshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

I tried copy the logo at the topleft of this page then paste into
document/spreadsheet/**presentation, and find that the picture cannot be
pasted into presentation. But I can do this in MS office 2010



Currently, I have problems reproducing your problem.

Can you please be a little bit more specific?
How do you copy the image?
Are you using a browser? Which one?

I have done the following using latest snapshot build for Windows, rev.
1296433:
- open the website in Firefox
- open context menu for the image
- choose Copy Image
- open an empty presentation document
- hit keys Ctrl-V
--  bitmap is pasted into the presentation.
(Unfortunately, its background is black. I am experiencing the same in MS
Paint. Thus, I assume that the copy process of Firefox does not
recognized
a possible existing Alpha channel for the transparency.)

My 2nd try was:
- open the website in Firefox
- make a selection of the image using the mouse
- hit keys Ctrl-C
- open an empty presentation document
- hit keys Ctrl-V
--  nothing happens (the same happens in OOo 3.3). Reason for this is
that
the presentation document can not interpret the HTML in the clipboard.

My 3rd try was:
- open the website in Firefox
- open context menu for the image
- choose Copy Image Location
- open an empty presentation document
- menu Insert - Picture - From file
- paste image URL into File name field
- check checkbox Link
- hit button Open
--  image is inserted as linked image. It takes some time to download
the
image from the internet - I also had to allow the soffice.bin process to
access the internet.



I'm doing with the second way, it works in document and spreadsheet, also
works in MS office PPT.




Ok.
Thus, this way is currently not supported by Impress - our presentation
component.
Thus, from my point of view this issue would be a request for enhancement.

Note: Before pasting you can observe via menu edit - paste special what the
corresponding application can interpret from the different available formats
provided by the clipboard.



I think we have a regression here.

Steps:

1. Load Impress, Load Browser to http://www.openoffice.org

2. Right click on the AOO logo in upper left corner (a PNG file) and
Copy/Image (in Firefox) or Copy (in Internet Explorer)

3. In Impress, Edit Paste the image.(If you do Edit/Paste Special
the format is called bitmap)

Observed Behavior:

1. In AOO 3.4.1 the image pastes in correct in I.E. and Firefox on Windows

2. In AOO 4.0.0 the image pastes in as a solid black box in Firefox,
but pastes in correctly in I.E.  The same version of Firefox (23.0.1)
was used in both tests.

IMHO this is a serious issue, since it makes it very hard to reuse
graphics from the web.  The workaround is not very good -- save image
from web to a file and then import it into Impress.

Regards,

-Rob



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Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)

2013-08-19 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/19/13 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 (top posting)

 User SLV-es from ES forums proposed a new logo

 http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3924mode=view

 
 Why aren't we just using the proper AOO logo, the same one we use on
 the website, the blog, the wiki, etc.?  If we can do that then the
 user will understand that this is an official website.  Consistency is
 good for this.  And then you can have a text title that says
 Community Support Forum or something like that.

exactly I do not understand either this discussion, why not using the
new existing one. Maybe tweaked to fit in the forum header

Juergen

 
 
 -Rob
 
 
 On his own words, it needs some work but IMO it shows an interesting tweak,
 maintaining both, colours and fonts from original logo but with a variant
 that suggest help (the main forum purpose).

 I suggested the author to attach his proposal to the issue.

 Regards
 Ricardo





 2013/8/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote:



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org
 wrote:



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:

 There is also other sites like extensions, www and
 openoffice.apache.org
 ,
 blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need
 to be
 updated.

 Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there
 was a
 dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there
 needs to
 be
 some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance.

 So the status is:
 blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo
 templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't
 have
 the
 previous logo at all.

 I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a
 similar
 font
 to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork.
 Andrea
 recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb.

 Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too?

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0


 The bugzilla does not answer my question.

 You used two fonts what are they and what is the license?

 IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change?


 I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at the
 source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the
 current AOO Logo.



 Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open
 sans
 is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans pro
 then Dave's question is perfectly valid.



 So we're all on the same page:  the AOO 4.0 Logo uses Source Sans Pro.
  This must not be changed without discussion and PMC approval.  If the
 idea is to update the old forum/wiki headers to use Source Sans Pro
 and new logo elements, then this sounds like the right direction.

 -Rob

 Regard
 Ricardo












 An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the
 samples
 and
 sources.


 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest 
 hagar.del...@laposte.net
 wrote:

 The question was raised in another thread but better have a
 dedicated
 one.

 What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will
 certainly
 visit 3
 areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today
 they
 have 3
 different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent
 branding
 to give users a kind of security feeling.

 I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current
 headers
 and
 a proposal I've made very quickly:
 http://forum.openoffice.org/**
 en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523
 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523
 No need to register to see it so have a look.
 The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at
 least
 for
 every areas, at the same location.

 Hagar


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Re: Strange phrase on download page: with other users

2013-08-19 Thread sebb
On 19 August 2013 11:42, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:16:34 +0100
 sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are two sentences on the download page which read very oddly to me:

 1) Extend your Apache OpenOffice functionality with a large and
 growing library of extensions and dictionaries with other users.

 2) Extend your Apache OpenOffice creativity with a large and growing
 library of templates with other users.

 I don't understand the phrase with other users.
 Well, obviously I understand the words, but they don't make sense to
 me in that context.

 Can anyone enlighten me what the phrase is intended to mean here?

 If the phrase were dropped entirely, the sentences would make sense to me.

 In both cases, if the with is replaced by from the phrases make sense.

Thanks, now fixed!


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4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 123021] OO Writer crashes on document open

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann o...@apache.org has asked  for 4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123021: OO Writer crashes on document open
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123021


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Defect has been introduced by the changes for bug 120928 - enhance WW8
(Microsoft Word binary file format) import by importing graphic bullets.

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4.0.1_release_blocker granted: [Bug 123021] OO Writer crashes on document open

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has granted Oliver-Rainer Wittmann o...@apache.org's request
for 4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123021: OO Writer crashes on document open
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123021


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4.0.1_release_blocker granted: [Bug 122868] writer crash on pdf export from page preview

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Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post

2013-08-19 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM, fred juan diaz diaz_frede...@yahoo.fr
 wrote:

 En date de : Ven 9.8.13, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a
On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com
   wrote:On 6 August 2013 15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com
   wrote:
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch
   ianrly...@gmail.com
   wrote:
On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
   wrote:
   
It is that time of year now:  back
   to school.
   
I wonder if this could make a good blog
   post.


So...did this ever happen?

Don


Re: Usability: dictionary updates and profile migration

2013-08-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Not seeing comments, I'll publish the updated dictionary in a couple of
days. In the end this is not breaking anything, it just produces a Fatal
Error (that is actually not fatal, and solved by simply restarting
OpenOffice) during profile migration. ...

I don't know if it is related, but we're starting to get a few reports
from confused users on Facebook.  It sounds like they are getting
dictionary upgrade notifications but are then lost when trying to
download/install the update.   It is coming down as a ZIP file rather
than an OXT.


This is a known problem with Internet Explorer (unrelated to this 
specific extension): at times, IE tries to be smart and fixes the 
filename extension into ZIP rather than OXT as you correctly observed. I 
don't have more precise information, but this has happened for years and 
the common advice given on lists is use another browser (obviously, 
capable users can rename the file as OXT).


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Re: Usability: dictionary updates and profile migration

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 Not seeing comments, I'll publish the updated dictionary in a couple of
 days. In the end this is not breaking anything, it just produces a Fatal
 Error (that is actually not fatal, and solved by simply restarting
 OpenOffice) during profile migration. ...

 I don't know if it is related, but we're starting to get a few reports
 from confused users on Facebook.  It sounds like they are getting
 dictionary upgrade notifications but are then lost when trying to
 download/install the update.   It is coming down as a ZIP file rather
 than an OXT.


 This is a known problem with Internet Explorer (unrelated to this specific
 extension): at times, IE tries to be smart and fixes the filename
 extension into ZIP rather than OXT as you correctly observed. I don't have
 more precise information, but this has happened for years and the common
 advice given on lists is use another browser (obviously, capable users can
 rename the file as OXT).


If I.E. is suggesting a ZIP content type then this means they've
resorted to content sniffing and found the ZIP magic number in the
file header.   Usually a browser only resorts to this if every other
attempt to determine the content type has failed, e.g., HTTP response
headers, file name, etc.   This is something that should be fixable.

-Rob



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Re: Usability: dictionary updates and profile migration

2013-08-19 Thread sebb
On 19 August 2013 16:39, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 Not seeing comments, I'll publish the updated dictionary in a couple of
 days. In the end this is not breaking anything, it just produces a Fatal
 Error (that is actually not fatal, and solved by simply restarting
 OpenOffice) during profile migration. ...

 I don't know if it is related, but we're starting to get a few reports
 from confused users on Facebook.  It sounds like they are getting
 dictionary upgrade notifications but are then lost when trying to
 download/install the update.   It is coming down as a ZIP file rather
 than an OXT.


 This is a known problem with Internet Explorer (unrelated to this specific
 extension): at times, IE tries to be smart and fixes the filename
 extension into ZIP rather than OXT as you correctly observed. I don't have
 more precise information, but this has happened for years and the common
 advice given on lists is use another browser (obviously, capable users can
 rename the file as OXT).


 If I.E. is suggesting a ZIP content type then this means they've
 resorted to content sniffing and found the ZIP magic number in the
 file header.   Usually a browser only resorts to this if every other
 attempt to determine the content type has failed, e.g., HTTP response
 headers, file name, etc.   This is something that should be fixable.

The request uses a lot of redirects; the last two respond as follows
(some headers dropped):

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dict-en.oxt
Location: 
http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/17102/1/dict-en.oxt
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 0
Server: lighttpd/1.4.26


HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache/2.2.14
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 6529865
Content-Type: application/octet-stream

I did an experiment with IE 8 - it downloads as .zip from the
SourceForge, but downloads OK from a copy on people.apache.org.

The relevant response headers from people.a.o are:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache/2.2.24 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.24 OpenSSL/1.0.1e DAV/2
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 6529865
Content-Type: application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension

So it might be sufficient to ensure that the correct content-type is returned.

I think this will need to be done by SourceForge on all their systems.

 -Rob



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Pootle User Guide progress

2013-08-19 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

my draft on http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Pootle_User_Guide 
progresses. It is not completed, but I have integrated all still 
relevant parts from http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide.


I now want to move the content from the talk page to the real page, 
replacing its current content. Any objections?


The content is already very large for a single page. So I want to follow 
Andreas suggestion to divide it in several pages. That can be done by 
transferring some content to independent other pages or by creating 
subpages. What do you like more?


I do not own the text. Feel free to change or add content.

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post

2013-08-19 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi all,


2013/8/19 Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org

 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

  On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM, fred juan diaz diaz_frede...@yahoo.fr
  wrote:
 
  En date de : Ven 9.8.13, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a
 On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com
wrote:On 6 August 2013 15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch
ianrly...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
wrote:

 It is that time of year now:  back
to school.

 I wonder if this could make a good blog
post.
 

 So...did this ever happen?


If it happens, a reminder of the following post could also be interesting.
http://markmail.org/message/4pzhwx47glilgxqd
Can not be achieved immediately, of course, but I think that these ideas
should not be forgotten, and stored in a more visible location.

A+
-- 
gw


Re: Best practice for description.xml

2013-08-19 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/15/13 9:07 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have read:
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Localized_XML_Elements
 
 but I'm not sure which is the better practice in a description.xml:
 
 (a)
 publisher
   name lang=de xlink:href=http://de.openoffice.info;Klaus Meyer/name
 /publisher
 
 (in this case de is only an example)
 
 (b)
 publisher
   name xlink:href=http://de.openoffice.info;Klaus Meyer/name
 /publisher
 
 
 If (a) or (b) better for an entry that will apply in all languages?
 

b)

in this case it makes of course no sense to use the lang tag. Publisher
shouldn't be translated

Juergen


 
 
 greetings,
 Jörg
 
 
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Re: AOO on Debian/Ubuntu via APT Repositories

2013-08-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 16/08/2013 Marcelo Santana wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:07:32 +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

But we can surely list Marcelo's repository at
http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ ...

I just download all Debian packages, unpackage and provide them using
the reprepro approach as described at Debian wiki page[1]. Since I need
to sign the packages with my GPG key, the final MD5 checksums are
different from the original packages provided by Apache Foundation
through sourceforge.


Thank you Marcelo for the explanation; it's fine and, unless somebody 
objects or needs further details, I'll list your unofficial DEB 
repository at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ next weekend.


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Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM, fred juan diaz diaz_frede...@yahoo.fr
 wrote:

 En date de : Ven 9.8.13, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a
On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com
   wrote:On 6 August 2013 15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com
   wrote:
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch
   ianrly...@gmail.com
   wrote:
On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
   wrote:
   
It is that time of year now:  back
   to school.
   
I wonder if this could make a good blog
   post.


 So...did this ever happen?


No.  I started collecting ideas, but then had a family emergency to
deal with, so I never pulled it all together.

-Rob


 Don

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Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?

2013-08-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 19/08/2013 sebb wrote:

Note that the page http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html also
requires Javascript!


This is not so good. The noscript option should direct the user to
http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
(users who disable JavaScript are likely to be able to browse the 
FTP-like structure they will see there).



Whatever method is chosen, I think it should be possible to download
AOO without the use of Javascript.


It should also be possible to download OpenOffice in the cases where 
JavaScript parsing breaks, i.e., we should have alternative download 
links that are always visible (working JavaScript, broken Javascript, no 
JavaScript).


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Re: Strange phrase on download page: with other users

2013-08-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 08/19/2013 12:42 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:16:34 +0100
sebbseb...@gmail.com  wrote:


There are two sentences on the download page which read very oddly to me:

1) Extend your Apache OpenOffice functionality with a large and
growing library of extensions and dictionaries with other users.

2) Extend your Apache OpenOffice creativity with a large and growing
library of templates with other users.

I don't understand the phrase with other users.
Well, obviously I understand the words, but they don't make sense to
me in that context.

Can anyone enlighten me what the phrase is intended to mean here?


I idea behind this wording is to express the bi-directional way:

a) You can download extensions/templates from other users and use them 
in your OpenOffice.


b) But you can also create own extensions/templates and upload them to 
share with other users.


Of course I don't know if this is good English language. However, it 
seems you have already changed the wording. ;-) I hope it's still 
fitting, otherwise you can change it.


Marcus




If the phrase were dropped entirely, the sentences would make sense to me.


In both cases, if the with is replaced by from the phrases make sense.


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Thanks a lot for your data.

The problem was that Polish is no supported language for the AOO 4.0 
release. However, it was tried to assemble a download link with LANG_ISO 
= pl. This wasn't working and therefore the error.


This should be fixed now. You should see the green download box. When 
clicking you will be redirected to the native language webpage where you 
can download AOO 3.4.1.


I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Marcus


Am 08/19/2013 12:49 PM, schrieb Michał Mulawa:

W dniu 2013-08-19 12:46, Rory O'Farrell pisze:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:10:09 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:


W dniu 2013-08-19 11:23, Rory O'Farrell pisze:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:53:32 +0200
Michał Mulawa mic...@o2.pl wrote:


Hi
so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the
following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main
things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse
addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just
want to
download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so. I
suppose it shows up after i share it on FB/etc, bot I dont't have any
account on any of them. Even if I had an account, why would you
force me
to share such an information?

the download page without the actual download link makes no sense, I
hope you fix this...


regards,
mike


Try it again - the site was undergoing extensive maintenance and
upgrade. If it doesn't work you need to clear your browser cache.


I followed your advice, and cleared the cache. Still the same - check
out the attached screenshot. I am using FF 23.0.1.

Later posts to this thread have suggested it may be a Java problem on
your computer, which you may or may not wish to settle/install. This
URL ought take you direct to a more complex download page, where yu
can select the exact operating system version and language you require.
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html



I see some kind of error in JS console:

TypeError: release_aoo400_matrix[LANG_ISO] is undefined
http://www.openoffice.org/download/download.js
Line 345

thanks for the direct link


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-08-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Thanks a lot for your data.

The problem was that Polish is no supported language for the AOO 4.0 
release. However, it was tried to assemble a download link with LANG_ISO 
= pl. This wasn't working and therefore the error.


This should be fixed now. You should see the green download box. When 
clicking you will be redirected to the native language webpage where you 
can download AOO 3.4.1.


I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Marcus



Am 08/19/2013 11:59 AM, schrieb Piotr B. [pb2004]:

Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org  wrote:

Michał Mulawa wrote:

so i wanted to upgrade my OpenOffice from 3.31 to 4.0. I landed on the
following url: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ . There are 3 main
things on that page: share via facebook/twitter/googlePlus, browse
addons, browse templates. But I don't want any of theese, I just want to
download the installer. there is no easy-to-find link to do so.



There must be some JavaScript problem with your browser/language
configuration: normally you should see a green download button.



Please download from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html



but please write again to the dev list copying and pasting the table you
see at http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html : this will
help us fix the problem.


Same problem[1]. Table from analyze.html:
Browser variables  Values
navigator.appCodeName  Mozilla
navigator.appName  Microsoft Internet Explorer
navigator.appVersion  5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; WOW64;
Trident/6.0; .NET4.0E; .NET4.0C; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 2.0.50727;
.NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0)
navigator.platform  Win32
navigator.oscpu  undefined
navigator.cpuClass  x86
navigator.product  undefined
navigator.productSub  undefined
navigator.vendor  undefined
navigator.vendorSub  undefined
navigator.language  undefined
navigator.browserLanguage  pl-PL
navigator.userLanguage  pl-PL
navigator.systemLanguage  pl-PL
navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2;
WOW64; Trident/6.0; .NET4.0E; .NET4.0C; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0)
JavaScript functions/variables Values
Language name  Polski
Language ISO code  pl
Language array data
pl,Polish,Polski,n,http://pl.openoffice.org/product.download.html
Release matrix platform position  10
Release matrix platform array data
UI platform name  Windows (EXE)
URL platform name  Win_x86_install
File name
File extension  .exe
File size  0
Download file link
Checksum file link (here for MD5)
hasMirrorLink()  false


1. http://sdrv.ms/16Zrv0x


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Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?

2013-08-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 08/19/2013 08:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 19/08/2013 sebb wrote:

Note that the page http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html also
requires Javascript!


This is not so good. The noscript option should direct the user to
http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
(users who disable JavaScript are likely to be able to browse the
FTP-like structure they will see there).


That's a good alternative as this is already available and completely 
working. So the green NOJS box could link to this webpage.


Marcus




Whatever method is chosen, I think it should be possible to download
AOO without the use of Javascript.


It should also be possible to download OpenOffice in the cases where
JavaScript parsing breaks, i.e., we should have alternative download
links that are always visible (working JavaScript, broken Javascript, no
JavaScript).

Regards,
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Re: AOO on Debian/Ubuntu via APT Repositories

2013-08-19 Thread Marcelo Santana
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:04:16 +0200, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

 On 16.08.2013 18:25, Marcelo Santana wrote:
  *PS: BTW does anybody know how the AOO's Debian packages are built?
 
  From my answer from last Wednesday to Mike Dupont:

 AOO creates its Debian packages using EPM [1] when the configure option 
 --with-package-format=deb is given to the AOO build. They are 
 assembled when AOO builds its main/postprocess module using some perl 
 scripts in main/solenv/bin/
 
 [1] http://www.msweet.org/projects.php?Z2
 
 Herbert

Thank you so much Herbert.

Regards,

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Re: AOO on Debian/Ubuntu via APT Repositories

2013-08-19 Thread Marcelo Santana
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:02:01 +0200, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

[...]
 
 Thank you Marcelo for the explanation; it's fine and, unless somebody 
 objects or needs further details, I'll list your unofficial DEB 
 repository at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ next weekend.
 
 Regards,
Andrea

Thank you so much Andrea.

Regards,

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