Wrong regression test cases

2014-04-02 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Hi,

from time to time there is a suspect that there are errors in test case 
descriptions, currently I know:

Issue 124523 - Testcase requires not existing feature wildcards
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124523
Issue 124535 - Wrong Test description for hyperlinks in Writer TOC 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124535

Is there any systematic review for the testcases?

How should we proceed if errors have been found?

CU

Rainer

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Re: the right Accessibility configuration

2014-04-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 28/03/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Hello Jacopo, ...
Are you saying that you can't even launch OpenOffice the first time?


For the record, this could be related to this bug:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124573

Fixes were committed over the last 24 hours to trunk (last: revision 
1583887), so either you wait for the next snapshot (it will likely be 
copied to the AOO410 branch soon) or you try with a daily trunk build 
with a higher revision number.


Regards,
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Re: Extension Manager Add Crashes

2014-04-02 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 04/02/2014 01:20 AM, Steele, Raymond wrote:

Following up again with more information. At runtime, when the
RuntimeException is thrown on line 249

nFunctionIndex = 3

pTypeDescr-nMapFunctionIndexToMemberIndex = 0


That means that the given pTypeDescr has not been initialized fully (see 
the comment about the three levels of initialization for 
typelib_InterfaceTypeDescription in typelib/typedescription.h), 
presumably because there was some error finding the UNOIDL type data 
(either compiled comprehensively into the cppumaker-generated headers, 
or obtained from .rdb files).  The initialization of 
nMapFunctionIndexToMemberIndex would happen in 
typelib_typedescription_initTables called from complete (both in 
cppu/source/typelib/typelib.cxx).


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[RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!

Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release.
We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC
based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time
in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
release relevant bits are the source release.

The RC builds can be found as always under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this
release can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
should be verified by native speakers.

A related RAT scan can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we
have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the
functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future
as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
(en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)

I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.

We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they
were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
those who are relevant for most of our users.


Juergen

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

I hope that nobody have a problem with the revision number ...666 and
the build date April 1th ;-) I find it funny and you can expect a very
hot version ...


On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
 Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release.
 We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
 further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC
 based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time
 in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
 Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
 ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
 release relevant bits are the source release.
 
 The RC builds can be found as always under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
 An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this
 release can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
 I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
 issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
 should be verified by native speakers.
 
 A related RAT scan can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
 I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we
 have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
 only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
 time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the
 functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
 prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future
 as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
 (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
 
 I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
 Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
 Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
 
 We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they
 were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
 account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
 issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
 those who are relevant for most of our users.
 
 
 Juergen
 


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4.1.0_release_blocker denied: [Issue 121193] Alt+Arrow Cmd+Arrow move cursor in the opposite directions, in RTL text editing

2014-04-02 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has denied Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org's request for
4.1.0_release_blocker:
Issue 121193: Alt+Arrow  Cmd+Arrow move cursor in the opposite directions, in
RTL text editing
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121193


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
no showstopper, will be fixed on trunk asap

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4.1.0_release_blocker denied: [Issue 124556] Broken SDK environment

2014-04-02 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has denied Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org's request
for 4.1.0_release_blocker:
Issue 124556: Broken SDK environment
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124556


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread imacat
Traditional Chinese not found yet.  Should I wait for a while?

On 2014/04/02 21:16, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 Hi,
 
 FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
 Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release.
 We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
 further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC
 based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time
 in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
 Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
 ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
 release relevant bits are the source release.
 
 The RC builds can be found as always under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
 An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this
 release can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
 I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
 issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
 should be verified by native speakers.
 
 A related RAT scan can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
 I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we
 have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
 only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
 time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the
 functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
 prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future
 as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
 (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
 
 I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
 Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
 Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
 
 We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they
 were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
 account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
 issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
 those who are relevant for most of our users.
 
 
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4.1.0_release_blocker denied: [Issue 124509] MacOSX 64 crash in the scripting environment due to getenv(PATH) returning a null value

2014-04-02 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has denied r...@apache.org's request for 4.1.0_release_blocker:
Issue 124509: MacOSX 64 crash in the scripting environment due to
getenv(PATH) returning a null value
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509


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4.1.0_release_blocker canceled: [Issue 87182] Crash on formatting OLE Draw object

2014-04-02 Thread bugzilla
Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com has canceled Armin Le Grand
armin.le.gr...@me.com's request for 4.1.0_release_blocker:
Issue 87182: Crash on formatting OLE Draw object
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=87182


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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 02.04.2014 17:12, imacat wrote:

Traditional Chinese not found yet.  Should I wait for a while?


As Jürgen wrote, the Linux builds are still being uploaded. Languages 
starting with a-g are already available for 64bit Linux, other languages 
and 32bit Linux will follow in a couple of hours.


What's most important and what the vote is about is the source revision.

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Mittwoch, 2. April 2014 um 17:12 schrieb imacat:
 Traditional Chinese not found yet. Should I wait for a while?
  
  

you use Linux, correct? Yes please try  again later, as mentioned the Linux 
Upload is ongoing and because of the deb and rpm and 32 and 64 Bit version it 
takes longer ;-)  
  
 On 2014/04/02 21:16, Jürgen Schmidt said:
  Hi,
   
  FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
   
  Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release.
  We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
  further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC
  based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time
  in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
  Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
  ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
  release relevant bits are the source release.
   
  The RC builds can be found as always under
  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
   
  An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this
  release can be found under
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
  I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
  issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
  should be verified by native speakers.
   
  A related RAT scan can be found under
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
   
  I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we
  have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
  only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
  time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the
  functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
  prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future
  as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
  (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
   
  I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
  Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
  Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
   
  We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they
  were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
  account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
  issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
  those who are relevant for most of our users.
   
   
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RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Extension Manager Add Crashes

2014-04-02 Thread Steele, Raymond
Thanks. I'll take a stab at it, although I am not too sure I understand.

Raymond

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Bergmann [mailto:stephan.bergmann.second...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:41 PM
To: Steele, Raymond
Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org; michael.me...@suse.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Extension Manager Add Crashes

On 04/02/2014 01:20 AM, Steele, Raymond wrote:
 Following up again with more information. At runtime, when the 
 RuntimeException is thrown on line 249

 nFunctionIndex = 3

 pTypeDescr-nMapFunctionIndexToMemberIndex = 0

That means that the given pTypeDescr has not been initialized fully (see the 
comment about the three levels of initialization for 
typelib_InterfaceTypeDescription in typelib/typedescription.h), presumably 
because there was some error finding the UNOIDL type data (either compiled 
comprehensively into the cppumaker-generated headers, or obtained from .rdb 
files).  The initialization of nMapFunctionIndexToMemberIndex would happen in 
typelib_typedescription_initTables called from complete (both in 
cppu/source/typelib/typelib.cxx).

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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

 Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 wrote:

 Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

  Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

  Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

  Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

  Rob Weir wrote:

  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/


 Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml



Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?




 Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
 careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.

 We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.

 They

 link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
 thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to
 deny
 all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or

 the

 sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in
 control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.


 For me this sounds like a great idea.

 Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some

 from

 these bad websites.

 @Roberto:
 Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?


 Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could help to
 stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.


 @Roberto:
 Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.


 Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this thread
 before.




 It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude some
 domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?


 I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if that's
 doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.



 - chip.de
 - computerbase.de
 - softpedia.com

 This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
 downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the

 future.

 Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)

 *Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new version

 is

 not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block

 will

 be removed.

 @all:
 I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to see
 until the official release. What you think?


 I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the
 files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
 errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
 needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
 there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
 This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
 released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
 officially approved  or something like that?


 To be honest, I don't care about a few days were a special set of domains
 were not able to access for a few days. For me they are a bit too
 enthusiastic. And as you said in a previous post it's to protect us as best
 as possible.


  +1 This seems sufficient to me.


 @Roberto:
 Do you see a technical way to return a predefined error message when the
 release builds are already on Sourceforge but not yet officially released
 and published?


Our SiteOps team looked into this, here our findings:

One provider (chip.de) serves via Akamai CDN, one provider (computerbase.de)
serves via their own FTP server, and softpedia.com lists SourceForge as an
external mirror and passes traffic through our download redirector flow
(not direct to a mirror).

The first two cases are things we can't control.

In the third case, we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a
different landing page if one is provided. Maybe we want to have a
openoffice.org page explaining that's a release-candidate and it's served
only for testing purposes and its use on a daily basis it is not
recommended.

How does that sound?

Roberto



 Thanks


 Marcus



  Then we can exclude requester that we don't want (e.g., malware
 distributors).

 Also in time frames with Beta or RC releases it can help us to steer

 who

 is able and when it is possible to download OpenOffice like we want to
 see
 until the real release date is reached.




  Thanks

 Marcus



Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and
 offer


 them locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on
 their
 side.


 And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what

 they

 want.

 Marcus




Re: New Bug reporters March 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Rainer Bielefeld 
rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote:

 Hi,

 in March 2014 we have got 47 new AOO Bug reporters, who reported all
 together 55 bugs:


Great news that these folks volunteered! Welcome everybody!


 No Reports   Account
 ---
 04anu6j...@gmail.com
 03karlo.s...@gmail.com
 02j.nitsc...@ok.de
 02overcomer@gmail.com
 02shlap...@henrico.k12.va.us
 0173wa4...@sc.rr.com
 01aeneum...@gmx.net
 01agnies...@unity3d.com
 01alexander.re...@googlemail.com
 01alwynwelling...@gmail.com
 01a...@luycx.com
 01bobti...@earthlink.net
 01bugzillaopen...@gmail.com
 01claircou...@yahoo.co.uk
 01daveun...@sbcglobal.net
 01djpi...@hotmail.com
 01edkni...@centurytel.net
 01elke.dou...@free.fr
 01galearn...@gmail.com
 01gregpe...@hotmail.com
 01gus.h...@gmail.com
 01gwmcc...@charter.net
 01halst...@gmail.com
 01jak.badd...@hotmail.com
 01kg.hammarl...@gmail.com
 01lawall...@gmail.com
 01leonb...@gmail.com
 01lu...@crossimp.com
 01lughnas...@seznam.cz
 01majella.paul...@gmail.com
 01marih...@qq.com
 01maryfai...@hotmail.com
 01mcleo...@gmail.com
 01openoff...@margull.de
 01p.jungw...@gmx.net
 01paulp...@optonline.net
 01pbd62...@icloud.com
 01philip.mar...@outlook.com
 01sandra.il...@yahoo.com
 01szurketest...@gmail.com
 01t_p_ander...@hotmail.com
 01thesim...@gmail.com
 01tio.mad...@hotmail.com
 01turner_jm...@live.com
 01voro...@gmail.com
 01wegwe...@gmx.de
 01wojciech.halicki.pis...@gmail.com

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 If you have any questions concerning your Bugzilla bug reports please feel
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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Roberto Galoppini 
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

  Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
 
   On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:
 
   On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
  wrote:
 
  Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
 
   2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:
 
   Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
   Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
   Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 
   Rob Weir wrote:
 
   http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/
 
 
  Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml
 
 
 
 Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?
 
 
 
 
  Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to
 be
  careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers,
 unfortunately.
 
  We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.
 
  They
 
  link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
  thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side)
 to
  deny
  all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.orgor
 
  the
 
  sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in
  control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.
 
 
  For me this sounds like a great idea.
 
  Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some
 
  from
 
  these bad websites.
 
  @Roberto:
  Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for
 you?
 
 
  Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could help
 to
  stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.
 
 
  @Roberto:
  Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.
 
 
  Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this thread
  before.
 
 
 
 
  It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude
 some
  domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?
 
 
  I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if that's
  doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.
 
 
 
  - chip.de
  - computerbase.de
  - softpedia.com
 
  This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
  downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the
 
  future.
 
  Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)
 
  *Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new
 version
 
  is
 
  not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block
 
  will
 
  be removed.
 
  @all:
  I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to
 see
  until the official release. What you think?
 
 
  I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the
  files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
  errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
  needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
  there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
  This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
  released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
  officially approved  or something like that?
 
 
  To be honest, I don't care about a few days were a special set of domains
  were not able to access for a few days. For me they are a bit too
  enthusiastic. And as you said in a previous post it's to protect us as
 best
  as possible.
 
 
   +1 This seems sufficient to me.
 
 
  @Roberto:
  Do you see a technical way to return a predefined error message when the
  release builds are already on Sourceforge but not yet officially released
  and published?
 

 Our SiteOps team looked into this, here our findings:

 One provider (chip.de) serves via Akamai CDN, one provider (
 computerbase.de)
 serves via their own FTP server, and softpedia.com lists SourceForge as an
 external mirror and passes traffic through our download redirector flow
 (not direct to a mirror).

 The first two cases are things we can't control.

 In the third case, we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a
 different landing page if one is provided. Maybe we want to have a
 openoffice.org page explaining that's a release-candidate and it's served
 only for testing purposes and its use on a daily basis it is not
 recommended.

 How does that sound?

 Roberto


Roberto -- thanks for all this investigation.


Should we assume that this caution should only be applied to:

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/milestones/

assuming this area would always be used for betas?




 
  Thanks
 
 
  Marcus
 
 
 
   Then we can exclude requester that we don't want (e.g., malware
  distributors).
 
  Also in time frames with Beta or RC releases it can help us to steer
 
  who
 
  is able and when it is possible to download OpenOffice like we want to
  see
  until the real release date is 

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/02/2014 06:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Roberto Galoppini
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com  wrote:


2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org   wrote:


  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

wrote:


Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


  Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


  Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


  Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


  Rob Weir wrote:


  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/





Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml



Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?







Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to

be

careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers,

unfortunately.


We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.


They



link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just

thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side)

to

deny
all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.orgor


the



sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in

control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.



For me this sounds like a great idea.

Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some


from



these bad websites.


@Roberto:
Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for

you?




Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could help

to

stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.



@Roberto:
Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.



Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this thread
before.





It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude

some

domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?



I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if that's
doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.




- chip.de
- computerbase.de
- softpedia.com

This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the


future.


Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)

*Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new

version



is


not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block


will


be removed.

@all:
I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to

see

until the official release. What you think?



I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the
files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
officially approved  or something like that?




To be honest, I don't care about a few days were a special set of domains
were not able to access for a few days. For me they are a bit too
enthusiastic. And as you said in a previous post it's to protect us as

best

as possible.


  +1 This seems sufficient to me.




@Roberto:
Do you see a technical way to return a predefined error message when the
release builds are already on Sourceforge but not yet officially released
and published?



Our SiteOps team looked into this, here our findings:

One provider (chip.de) serves via Akamai CDN, one provider (
computerbase.de)
serves via their own FTP server, and softpedia.com lists SourceForge as an
external mirror and passes traffic through our download redirector flow
(not direct to a mirror).

The first two cases are things we can't control.

In the third case, we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a
different landing page if one is provided. Maybe we want to have a
openoffice.org page explaining that's a release-candidate and it's served
only for testing purposes and its use on a daily basis it is not
recommended.

How does that sound?

Roberto



Roberto -- thanks for all this investigation.


Should we assume that this caution should only be applied to:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/milestones/

assuming this area would always be used for betas?


Without other opinions I would assume the same. For Beta or any other 
pre-final releases this would help.


However, the problem remains when it comes to a final release that is 
located one subdir up in .../files/:


We want to protect the release builds until we have really announced it 
officially.


So, IMHO it has to be a more generic solution like the staging-bit or 
a substitute text (see my other mail to 

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org   wrote:


  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

wrote:


Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


  Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


  Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


  Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


  Rob Weir wrote:


  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/





Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml



Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?







Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.

We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.


They



link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just

thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to
deny
all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or


the



sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in

control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.



For me this sounds like a great idea.

Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some


from



these bad websites.


@Roberto:
Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?



Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could help to
stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.



@Roberto:
Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.



Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this thread
before.





It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude some
domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?



I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if that's
doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.




- chip.de
- computerbase.de
- softpedia.com

This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the


future.


Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)

*Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new version


is


not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block


will


be removed.

@all:
I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to see
until the official release. What you think?



I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the
files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
officially approved  or something like that?




To be honest, I don't care about a few days were a special set of domains
were not able to access for a few days. For me they are a bit too
enthusiastic. And as you said in a previous post it's to protect us as best
as possible.


  +1 This seems sufficient to me.




@Roberto:
Do you see a technical way to return a predefined error message when the
release builds are already on Sourceforge but not yet officially released
and published?



Our SiteOps team looked into this, here our findings:


Great :-)


One provider (chip.de) serves via Akamai CDN, one provider (computerbase.de)
serves via their own FTP server, and softpedia.com lists SourceForge as an
external mirror and passes traffic through our download redirector flow
(not direct to a mirror).

The first two cases are things we can't control.

In the third case, we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a
different landing page if one is provided. Maybe we want to have a
openoffice.org page explaining that's a release-candidate and it's served
only for testing purposes and its use on a daily basis it is not
recommended.

How does that sound?


I'm pretty sure that these kind of downloaders do not care about 
disclaimers - less then ever when located somewhere else. ;-)


So, either we disable the entire download for the specific timeframe or 
at least a text as substitute (like This release is not yet public. 
Please stay tuned and come back when it is announced.). But this text 
has then to be on Sourceforge in the same location.


I'm wondering if the staging bit can help as best solution. I would 
expect that the new location is not public *and* not known *and* not 
useable/functional for the normal non-admin user *until* we remove the 
bit. Am I right?


Thanks

Marcus




  Then we can exclude requester that we don't want (e.g., malware

distributors).

Also in time frames with 

Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/02/2014 04:45 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:


I hope that nobody have a problem with the revision number ...666 and
the build date April 1th ;-) I find it funny and you can expect a very
hot version ...


What a mere chance. :-)

Marcus




On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!

Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release.
We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC
based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time
in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
release relevant bits are the source release.

The RC builds can be found as always under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this
release can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
should be verified by native speakers.

A related RAT scan can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we
have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the
functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future
as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
(en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)

I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.

We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they
were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
those who are relevant for most of our users.


Juergen


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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

 Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

  Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

   On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org   wrote:


   On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 wrote:

  Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

   2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


   Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


   Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


   Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


   Rob Weir wrote:


   http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/



  Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml



 Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?




  Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care
 to be
 careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers,
 unfortunately.

 We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.

  They


  link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just

 thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to
 deny
 all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.orgor

  the


  sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in

 control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.


  For me this sounds like a great idea.

 Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some

  from


  these bad websites.


 @Roberto:
 Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for
 you?


  Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could
 help to
 stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.


  @Roberto:
 Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.


  Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this
 thread
 before.




  It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude
 some
 domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?


  I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if
 that's
 doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.



 - chip.de
 - computerbase.de
 - softpedia.com

 This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
 downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the

  future.

  Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)

 *Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new
 version

  is

  not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block

  will

  be removed.

 @all:
 I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to
 see
 until the official release. What you think?


  I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the
 files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
 errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
 needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
 there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
 This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
 released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
 officially approved  or something like that?


  To be honest, I don't care about a few days were a special set of
 domains
 were not able to access for a few days. For me they are a bit too
 enthusiastic. And as you said in a previous post it's to protect us as
 best
 as possible.


   +1 This seems sufficient to me.



 @Roberto:
 Do you see a technical way to return a predefined error message when the
 release builds are already on Sourceforge but not yet officially released
 and published?


 Our SiteOps team looked into this, here our findings:


 Great :-)


  One provider (chip.de) serves via Akamai CDN, one provider (
 computerbase.de)
 serves via their own FTP server, and softpedia.com lists SourceForge as
 an
 external mirror and passes traffic through our download redirector flow
 (not direct to a mirror).

 The first two cases are things we can't control.

 In the third case, we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a
 different landing page if one is provided. Maybe we want to have a
 openoffice.org page explaining that's a release-candidate and it's served
 only for testing purposes and its use on a daily basis it is not
 recommended.

 How does that sound?


 I'm pretty sure that these kind of downloaders do not care about
 disclaimers - less then ever when located somewhere else. ;-)

 So, either we disable the entire download for the specific timeframe or at
 least a text as substitute (like This release is not yet public. Please
 stay tuned and come back when it is announced.). But this text has then to
 be on Sourceforge in the same location.


Yes, that's doable in the way Kay described. And yes, we would add the text
and disable downloads.



 I'm wondering if the staging bit can help as best solution. I would
 expect that the new location 

Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/02/2014 03:16 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.


OK, as the bar for accepted showstoppers is now getting very high, I'll 
disable the public Beta download before the wekeend - if nobody objects.


Marcus

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Keysigning Party at ApacheCon

2014-04-02 Thread Rob Weir
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/PgpKeySigning

Good idea for anyone who wants to be better tied into the web of
trust, e.g., Release Managers, security team, etc.  Good idea for
everyone, really.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


  Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:


   On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.orgwrote:



   On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de


wrote:

  Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


   2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:



   Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):



   Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):



   Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:



   Rob Weir wrote:



   http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/





  Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml




 Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?






  Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care

to be
careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers,
unfortunately.

We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.

  They





  link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just



thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to

deny
all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.orgor

  the





  sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in



control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.



  For me this sounds like a great idea.


Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some

  from





  these bad websites.





@Roberto:
Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for
you?


  Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could

help to
stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.


  @Roberto:

Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.


  Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this

thread
before.




  It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude

some
domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?


  I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if

that's
doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.




- chip.de
- computerbase.de
- softpedia.com

This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the

  future.


  Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)


*Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new
version

  is


  not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block


  will


  be removed.


@all:
I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to
see
until the official release. What you think?


  I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the

files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
officially approved  or something like that?



  To be honest, I don't care about a few days were a special set of

domains
were not able to access for a few days. For me they are a bit too
enthusiastic. And as you said in a previous post it's to protect us as
best
as possible.


   +1 This seems sufficient to me.





@Roberto:
Do you see a technical way to return a predefined error message when the
release builds are already on Sourceforge but not yet officially released
and published?



Our SiteOps team looked into this, here our findings:



Great :-)


  One provider (chip.de) serves via Akamai CDN, one provider (

computerbase.de)
serves via their own FTP server, and softpedia.com lists SourceForge as
an
external mirror and passes traffic through our download redirector flow
(not direct to a mirror).

The first two cases are things we can't control.

In the third case, we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a
different landing page if one is provided. Maybe we want to have a
openoffice.org page explaining that's a release-candidate and it's served
only for testing purposes and its use on a daily basis it is not
recommended.

How does that sound?



I'm pretty sure that these kind of downloaders do not care about
disclaimers - less then ever when located somewhere else. ;-)

So, either we disable the entire download for the specific timeframe or at
least a text as substitute (like This release is not yet public. Please
stay tuned and come back when it is announced.). But this text has then to
be on Sourceforge in the same location.



Yes, that's doable in the way Kay described. And yes, we would add the text
and disable downloads.


Just to be sure, is this limited to a special subdir like 

volunteer

2014-04-02 Thread Tiago Leichsenring
Hi,
my name is Tiago and I am Brazilian. I would like to work with you as a
translator, I can translate into Portuguese and help you to create a
grammar and spelling corrector.

Best regards

-- 
Paz do Senhor
Tiago Leichsenring


RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Extension Manager Add Crashes

2014-04-02 Thread Steele, Raymond

I now understand what is described below (except the UNOIDL and .rbd stuff) and 
see all of this in the code, but I am still  lost for a solution.  Is there 
anything that I may be able to modify to get this working?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Bergmann [mailto:stephan.bergmann.second...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:41 PM
To: Steele, Raymond
Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org; michael.me...@suse.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Extension Manager Add Crashes

On 04/02/2014 01:20 AM, Steele, Raymond wrote:
 Following up again with more information. At runtime, when the 
 RuntimeException is thrown on line 249

 nFunctionIndex = 3

 pTypeDescr-nMapFunctionIndexToMemberIndex = 0

That means that the given pTypeDescr has not been initialized fully (see the 
comment about the three levels of initialization for 
typelib_InterfaceTypeDescription in typelib/typedescription.h), presumably 
because there was some error finding the UNOIDL type data (either compiled 
comprehensively into the cppumaker-generated headers, or obtained from .rdb 
files).  The initialization of nMapFunctionIndexToMemberIndex would happen in 
typelib_typedescription_initTables called from complete (both in 
cppu/source/typelib/typelib.cxx).

Stephan

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Re: volunteer

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Tiago,

Welcome to AOO community!
Could you also subscribe the Localization Mailing
Listhttp://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#localization-mailing-list-public?
Thank you.


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Tiago Leichsenring tiagolei...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 my name is Tiago and I am Brazilian. I would like to work with you as a
 translator, I can translate into Portuguese and help you to create a
 grammar and spelling corrector.

 Best regards

 --
 Paz do Senhor
 Tiago Leichsenring




-- 
Best Regards,

Steve Yin


Bedienung Apache-Cms

2014-04-02 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hallo,

Da ich gerade etwas Zeit habe habe ich mir das Apache-Cms angesehen und habe 
testweise versucht auf der Seite:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html

Die Tabellenüberschrift:
Aktuelle deutschsprachige Mailingliste bei apache.org

In:
Aktuelle deutschsprachige Mailinglisten bei apache.org

Zu ändern.

Vom cms bekomme ich folgende Rückmeldung (ich bin joesch):

Congratulations joesch! You've now published the ooo-site website.
The revision number of your commit was 904628. 


Fragen:
Bin ich überhaupt an der richtigen Stelle des cms?

Wann werden solche Änderungen wirksam? 
Da ich denke das dauert Stunden? Tage?, ist die weitergehende Frage wodurch ich 
Kenntnis erhalte das eine Änderung überhaupt aktzeptiert wird also das es zwar 
technisch noch dauern mag das sie veröffentlicht wird aber der 
Veröffnentlichung amnsich nichts mehr entgegensteht? 
Oder gilt eine Änderung automatisch deshalb als aktzeptiert weil ich sie als 
Committer mache?


Gruß
Jörg


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Re: Bedienung Apache-Cms

2014-04-02 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Moin Moin

On 02.04.2014 10:06, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hallo,

Da ich gerade etwas Zeit habe habe ich mir das Apache-Cms angesehen und habe 
testweise versucht auf der Seite:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html

Die Tabellenüberschrift:
Aktuelle deutschsprachige Mailingliste bei apache.org

In:
Aktuelle deutschsprachige Mailinglisten bei apache.org

Zu ändern.

Vom cms bekomme ich folgende Rückmeldung (ich bin joesch):

Congratulations joesch! You've now published the ooo-site website.
The revision number of your commit was 904628.


Fragen:
Bin ich überhaupt an der richtigen Stelle des cms?

Wann werden solche Änderungen wirksam?
Da ich denke das dauert Stunden? Tage?, ist die weitergehende Frage wodurch ich 
Kenntnis erhalte das eine Änderung überhaupt aktzeptiert wird also das es zwar 
technisch noch dauern mag das sie veröffentlicht wird aber der 
Veröffnentlichung amnsich nichts mehr entgegensteht?
Oder gilt eine Änderung automatisch deshalb als aktzeptiert weil ich sie als 
Committer mache?



Ich habe die entsprechenden Commits gesehen.
Ich sehe auch die Änderung auf der entsprechende Webseite.

Gruss, Oliver.



Gruß
Jörg


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Re: Bedienung Apache-Cms

2014-04-02 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hallo Marcus, 

 From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 

 hier mal der grobe Ablauf wie das mit dem Editieren funktioniert:

Danke. Das hat schon mal alles geklappt, auch wenn ich noch ungeübt bin und die 
Bedienung deshalb etwas ungewohnt ist.

Ich habe jetzt als ersten sinnvollen Edit die Beschreibung der neuen dev-Liste 
auf:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html

ergänzt.

 Ich empfehle dringend, die Commits über die commits@ ML zu verfolgen. 
 Dann sieht man, *wann* die Commits angekommen sind und *ob* 
 alles soweit 
 OK ist. Manchmal geht es nach Sekunden - es kann aber auch schonmal 
 Minuten dauern (siehe meine Commit-Mails um 20:20 und 20:23 Uhr).

Ich muß mich zunächst für die commit-ML anmelden und habe im Moment den Commit 
ohne die Liste gemacht.

Ist das Listenarchiv wirklich so lahm das ich Minuten nachdem meine Änderung 
schon produktiv erreichbar ist noch keine Mail im Archiv 
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-commits/) angekommen ist?
  
 Du musst mindestens 3 Mails sehen:
 1. Commit, die eigentliche Änderungen als Diff.

Die sehe ich im Archiv

 2. Staged, das Bauen im Staging-Bereich.
 3. Publish, das finale Veröffentlichen der Änderungen.

Von denen sehe ich im Archiv Garkeine? Sind die irgendwo anders? Oder woran 
erkenne ich die?






Gruß
Jörg


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