Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/28/14 12:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
 problem:

 - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
 - Downloading a different file than the offered is not

 Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
 has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

 Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
 download webpage:

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

 Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not
 the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

 For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes
 and the then created links below them.

 What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?

 
 Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward.  I think this might
 be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly  under the
 found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling.
 
 And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the
 lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top
 item under Documentation
 
 and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy
 versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already
 there really but maybe need to be reworded.)
 
 This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the
 user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only
 contain signature and hashes info.

I like the idea in general as well and Kay provided some good ideas
already to improve the structure.

We should use the drop down boxes to for older releases as well. Means a
further drop down box where the user can select the version, default is
always the latest and greatest.

For example for 4.1 we can drop the 32 bit version for Mac to avoid
confusion.

The link 'Get all platforms, languages, language packs' can be
potentially removed completely if we allow the selection of the product.

Juergen

 
 What do others think?
 
 
 
 Or do you have complete different thoughts?

 Thanks in advance.

 Marcus

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FYI - CMS is working again

2014-04-28 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello,

I just want to inform the change of web sites, works again by the CMS. I was 
just able to successfully publish changes (commit was 907128) to the page 
http://www.openoffice.org/de/.


Thanks to all who were involved in the repair of the server or the CMS.


Greetings,
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Armin Le Grand

On 25.04.2014 17:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

Did three installs and played around, all worked well
- Installed de version over RC3 on my dev machine, all good
- Installed de version over 3.4.0 de on my private win7 machine, all good
- Installed de DEB 64bit fresh on a virtual Xubuntu64, all good

Played with all apps, checked presentation mode, looks good
Thus: +1!

Sincerely,
Armin


But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 28.04.2014 10:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 4/28/14 12:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:


Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not
the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes
and the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?



Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward.  I think this might
be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly  under the
found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling.

And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the
lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top
item under Documentation

and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy
versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already
there really but maybe need to be reworded.)

This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the
user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only
contain signature and hashes info.


I like the idea in general as well and Kay provided some good ideas
already to improve the structure.

We should use the drop down boxes to for older releases as well. Means a
further drop down box where the user can select the version, default is
always the latest and greatest.

For example for 4.1 we can drop the 32 bit version for Mac to avoid
confusion.

The link 'Get all platforms, languages, language packs' can be
potentially removed completely if we allow the selection of the product.



+1 from my side for the general idea of the proposal.

Kay's and Jürgen's suggestions also make sense.


Best regards, Oliver.


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Open Office Writer

2014-04-28 Thread Thomas Carter
I already have Open Office calculator operating on Windows 7 . It is 
very good.
Can I download WRITER onto what I already have.  I don't like Microsoft 
word.

Please advise how to.
Thank you for your help.
Thomas Carter


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Re: Open Office Writer

2014-04-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:34:05 +1000
Thomas Carter thomc...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 I already have Open Office calculator operating on Windows 7 . It is 
 very good.
 Can I download WRITER onto what I already have.  I don't like Microsoft 
 word.
 Please advise how to.
 Thank you for your help.
 Thomas Carter


As OpenOffice is so tightly integrated, it is best to download the entire 
package. You may then be able to do a Custom install, but general opinion is 
that this saves little space and may lose some functionality with other 
OpenOffice modules.

Download only from 
www.openoffice.org/download

This will redirect you to Sourceforge whose servers handle the storage and 
downloads. The download will start in five seconds.

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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Steve Yin
+1. No critical issue has been found in RC4 until now.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
 (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
 iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
 forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
 Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
 and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
 deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
 And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
 support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
 success of OpenOffice.

 An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html

 The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701

 RC3:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639

 RC2:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394


 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

 (alternative directly via
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)

 *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
 saved manually (save link as ...).

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
 fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...




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OpenOffice Weekly News #2

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
The new issue is out and you can find it here:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2

Remember, this is powered by your submissions.  So be sure to add new
stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638

Regards,

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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #2

2014-04-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:24:55 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 The new issue is out and you can find it here:
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2
 
 Remember, this is powered by your submissions.  So be sure to add new
 stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob

For the next newsletter, Rob, I suggest a cautionary note on care in 
downloading (only from www.openoffice.org?), with mention of download 
verification by MD5sum and a warning of the Horrible Things that can happen 
with downloads from other sites.

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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #2

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:24:55 -0400
 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 The new issue is out and you can find it here:

 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2

 Remember, this is powered by your submissions.  So be sure to add new
 stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638

 Regards,

 -Rob

 For the next newsletter, Rob, I suggest a cautionary note on care in 
 downloading (only from www.openoffice.org?), with mention of download 
 verification by MD5sum and a warning of the Horrible Things that can happen 
 with downloads from other sites.


Sure.  If you have a suggested paragraph, go ahead and add it to the
CWiki.  When I post the weekly news I clear out that wiki page so it
is open for adding new content for the next week.

-Rob

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Jose R R
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
 prepared to have the final release bits in place.

 Pre release
 1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
 2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
 3. update the download mechanism
 4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)

 Post release
 1. release blog post
 2. feeding social media
 3. update the update mechanism


 Juergen



+1

In ApacheOO RC4, automatically detects GNU/Linux Debian's
Mozilla/Iceweasel/Firefox certificate to digitally sign documents, in
particular. Overall operates smooth.

Thanks for fixing issue: 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701 .


Best Professional Regards.

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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Mathias Röllig

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.


+1

It is a very short time vote, but I didn't found any reason against the 
release.


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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Donald Harbison
+1

Onwards!


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
 (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
 iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
 forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
 Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
 and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
 deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
 And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
 support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
 success of OpenOffice.

 An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html

 The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701

 RC3:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639

 RC2:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394


 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

 (alternative directly via
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)

 *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
 saved manually (save link as ...).

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
 fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
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[DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/28/14 3:37 PM, Mathias Röllig wrote:
 this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
 (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.
 
 +1
 
 It is a very short time vote, but I didn't found any reason against the
 release.

it is a little longer (few hours) than the normal 72 hours vote.

The changes are limited compared to earlier RC's. What are you expecting
to find what you couldn't found before? Don't get me wrong, I am just
interested to learn what we can improve in the future.

When the release is out and we have relaxed a little we should reflect
what was good and where can we improve ...

Juergen

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Download RC4 MacOS content type problem

2014-04-28 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Today I want to download RC4 for MacOS (seems all languages). Click onto 
the entry for the download let Firefox load it into itself as plain 
text instead of showing a Save to-box. This occurs with Firefox on 
MacOS and also on Ubuntu.


Save target as works.

With previous versions (before the server crash) there wasn't a problem, 
so it seems to be a misconfiguration of the server for *.dmg.


This should be changed before the final release is promoted for download.

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Re: Download RC4 MacOS content type problem

2014-04-28 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/28/14 5:04 PM, Mathias Röllig wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Today I want to download RC4 for MacOS (seems all languages). Click onto
 the entry for the download let Firefox load it into itself as plain
 text instead of showing a Save to-box. This occurs with Firefox on
 MacOS and also on Ubuntu.
 
 Save target as works.
 
 With previous versions (before the server crash) there wasn't a problem,
 so it seems to be a misconfiguration of the server for *.dmg.
 
 This should be changed before the final release is promoted for download.

This is a known problem on this server as reported in my initial email
and shouldn't be a problem later on. The server where the RC is hosted
is not the final server where the downloads come from.

It's annoying yes and I have reported it and can't change it.

Juergen


 
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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Mathias Röllig

It is a very short time vote, but I didn't found any reason against the
release.


it is a little longer (few hours) than the normal 72 hours vote.

The changes are limited compared to earlier RC's. What are you expecting
to find what you couldn't found before? Don't get me wrong, I am just
interested to learn what we can improve in the future.



Maybe it is only my impression, but people like me, which use AOO more 
then (only) test it and do it (tests) not in full time and (mostly) not 
at weekends haven't any chance to review all needs and possibilities. 
(Don't know if this is and understandable english sentence.)


And remember that we have to download and test the version before we can 
and should vote.


[RELEASE]: RC4 available - 25.04.2014 15:27
[VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4) - 25.04.2014 17:11

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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 25/04/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/28/14 5:16 PM, Mathias Röllig wrote:
 It is a very short time vote, but I didn't found any reason against the
 release.

 it is a little longer (few hours) than the normal 72 hours vote.

 The changes are limited compared to earlier RC's. What are you expecting
 to find what you couldn't found before? Don't get me wrong, I am just
 interested to learn what we can improve in the future.
 
 
 Maybe it is only my impression, but people like me, which use AOO more
 then (only) test it and do it (tests) not in full time and (mostly) not
 at weekends haven't any chance to review all needs and possibilities.
 (Don't know if this is and understandable english sentence.)
 
 And remember that we have to download and test the version before we can
 and should vote.
 
 [RELEASE]: RC4 available - 25.04.2014 15:27
 [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4) - 25.04.2014 17:11

sure but we had RC's before and the changes are minimal. I would expect
that this testing was already done but maybe this exactly is the
problem. If people see that new problems were found they stop testing
and wait for the next RC. And keep in mind that we had a Beta as well
where exactly this kind of testing is expected and where feedback is
welcome.

Juergen


 
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

+1 for releasing this release candidate as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

Best regards, Oliver.

On 25.04.2014 17:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html

The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701

RC3:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639

RC2:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394


The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

(alternative directly via
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)

*.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
saved manually (save link as ...).

The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

The vote starts now and will be open until:

Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...




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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
+1 from me.

I did my standard testing on 3 platforms, build the src release and
think it will be a very solid and good version. I used a snapshot build
(later the Beta, RC's) since weeks for my daily work ...

Juergen

On 4/25/14 5:11 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
 (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.
 
 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
 iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
 forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
 Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
 and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
 deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
 And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
 support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
 
 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
 success of OpenOffice.
 
 An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html
 
 The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701
 
 RC3:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
 
 RC2:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394
 
 
 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
 (alternative directly via
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)
 
 *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
 saved manually (save link as ...).
 
 The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
 fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
 
 The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.
 
 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.
 
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 
 
 


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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #2

2014-04-28 Thread Jörg Schmidt
on Monday, April 28, 2014 2:25 PM Rob Weir wrote:
 The new issue is out and you can find it here:
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2
 
 Remember, this is powered by your submissions.  So be sure to add new
 stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
 Id=40508638 

The German translation of the weekly news is in the wiki, and linked to the 
German homepage (http://www.openoffice.org/de/). 


@Rob:
Please You can put the blog again a link to the de-translation. I think it's 
easiest if you always points in the future to the overview page, then the link 
target is always same: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509513 


Greetings, 
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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #2

2014-04-28 Thread Jörg Schmidt


on Monday, April 28, 2014 5:36 PM Rob Weir wrote:

  @Rob:
  Please You can put the blog again a link to the
 de-translation. I think it's easiest if you always points in
 the future to the overview page, then the link target is always same:
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
 Id=40509513
  
 
 Done.

Thanks

Jörg


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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #2

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
 on Monday, April 28, 2014 2:25 PM Rob Weir wrote:
 The new issue is out and you can find it here:

 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2

 Remember, this is powered by your submissions.  So be sure to add new
 stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
 Id=40508638

 The German translation of the weekly news is in the wiki, and linked to the 
 German homepage (http://www.openoffice.org/de/).


 @Rob:
 Please You can put the blog again a link to the de-translation. I think it's 
 easiest if you always points in the future to the overview page, then the 
 link target is always same:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509513


Done.

-Rob


 Greetings,
 Jörg


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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 28.04.2014 17:23, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 25/04/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0


+1 for releasing this package as AOO 4.1.0 also from me after building 
the source package from scratch, checking the source code signature, 
checking the repository revision vs. the source tarball, checking the 
built and downloaded binaries on Mac and Linux/AMD64, running tests, 
reviewing the RAT output, etc.


Sorry for the mis-threading of my vote, but due to a problem [1] with 
the Apache mail server acting as a spam relay it was blacklisted by a 
couple of Email providers, so the original vote invitation mail never 
reached my inbox. Getting into the voting thread is now only possible by 
replying to another mail of the voting thread.


[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7594

Herbert

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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Tal Daniel
On Sun, Apr 27, Marcus wrote:

 [...] I made some progress about a long-term problem:

 - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
 - Downloading a different file than the offered is not

 [...] Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
 download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/
 index_droplist.html

 Please don't look too close to look  feel [...] this can and will be
 improved for sure.

 What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
 Or do you have complete different thoughts?


Looks nice and more compact, Marcus.
In addition to Kay's suggestions, I'd like to suggest to drop the
[redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box, and the
line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you
suggested; we can solve it at a programmable way (e.g. disable 2nd
drop-down until 1st drop-down has a valid selection).

Also, the gray box could appear only after clicking Get a different
version, which stands for other version, language, or OS.

Great work :)


Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
 problem:

 - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
 - Downloading a different file than the offered is not

 Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has
 no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

 Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download
 webpage:

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

 Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not the
 best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

 For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and
 the then created links below them.

 What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
 Or do you have complete different thoughts?


I like it.   In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box
with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best
guess of what the user wants?

-Rob


 Thanks in advance.

 Marcus

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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:19:20 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
  problem:
 
  - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
  - Downloading a different file than the offered is not
 
  Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has
  no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.
 
  Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download
  webpage:
 
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
 
  Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not the
  best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.
 
  For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and
  the then created links below them.
 
  What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
  Or do you have complete different thoughts?
 
 
 I like it.   In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box
 with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best
 guess of what the user wants?
 
 -Rob
 
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Marcus

The grey box should have an explicit reference to the version number (4.0.1 in 
this case)

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 
[X] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 
Only problem I have found is with send as e-mail though this appears
only to effect Windows XP. Still not anywhere near a reason not to release.

Keith



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Re: FYI - CMS is working again

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 10:45 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

I just want to inform the change of web sites, works again by the CMS. I was 
just able to successfully publish changes (commit was 907128) to the page 
http://www.openoffice.org/de/.

Thanks to all who were involved in the repair of the server or the CMS.


FYI ;-)

This was already stated on Friday (CEST afternoon) in the thread Server 
status: What's Up; What's Down?.


Marcus


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Re: Where to download Open Office for Mac OS ?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 05:10 AM, schrieb Thanh Ngo:

I would like to ask you for a favor and to show me how to install the
Open Office package for Mac.

Basically, I have successfully downloaded the Open Office package for
Mac from the information provided in your last email. Then, when I
double-click on the package on my iMac, it shows a big folder with the
title like this Open Office or some thing with a similar name. That
big folder has some sub-folders and other files. But, I don't think  I
know how to install that software on my iMac because I can't
successfully launch it at all. My iMac has the latest Mac OS and it was
purchased in Dec 2013.

Thank you very much for your help.


I'm very sorry but I don't know how to install software on a Mac.

But this should help you:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#apple

Marcus




On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

Am 04/08/2014 10:26 PM, schrieb Thanh Ngo:

I am trying to download Open Office for Mac OS , but don't know
where it is
on your website. There is this link on your website:
http://www.openoffice.org/__download/
http://www.openoffice.org/download/

But that link is for the Windows version only and not for the Mac OS
version.


Very likely is that you browse to this webpage via a Windows PC. The
green box reads the browser data and presents a suitable install
file - mostly this works as expected. ;-)

Would you please tell me where I can download the Mac OS version ?


In the green box you have the link Get all platforms, languages,
language packs to see all files on a separate file - or click this
link:

http://www.openoffice.org/__download/other.html
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

HTH

Marcus


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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 02:56 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
prepared to have the final release bits in place.

Pre release
1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
3. update the download mechanism


I'll take care of point #3.


4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)


Any idea when this will be? I'm (always) interesting in knowing the 
time, not only the date.



Post release
1. release blog post
2. feeding social media
3. update the update mechanism


Thanks

Marcus

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
 prepared to have the final release bits in place.

 Pre release
 1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
 2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
 3. update the download mechanism
 4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)

 Post release
 1. release blog post
 2. feeding social media

I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

-Rob

 3. update the update mechanism


 Juergen


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Re: FYI - CMS is working again

2014-04-28 Thread Jörg Schmidt
on Monday, April 28, 2014 8:48 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 04/28/2014 10:45 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
  I just want to inform the change of web sites, works again
 by the CMS. I was just able to successfully publish changes
 (commit was 907128) to the page http://www.openoffice.org/de/.
  
  Thanks to all who were involved in the repair of the server or the
  CMS. 
 
 FYI ;-)
 
 This was already stated on Friday (CEST afternoon) in the thread
 Server status: What's Up; What's Down?.

Sorry that I have not noticed on Friday, but only now.


Jörg


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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 06:25 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:19:20 -0400
Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has
no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download
webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not the
best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and
the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
Or do you have complete different thoughts?



I like it.   In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box
with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best
guess of what the user wants?

-Rob



Thanks in advance.

Marcus


The grey box should have an explicit reference to the version number (4.0.1 in 
this case)


Right, for the moment I've added this into the headline.
Lets see how this can be kept after some redesigns.

Marcus

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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 06:19 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has
no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download
webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not the
best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and
the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
Or do you have complete different thoughts?



I like it.   In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box
with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best
guess of what the user wants?


And I like this idea.

However, I would like to finish first a separate color box to have 
something working - as I expect some difficulties to combine both.


But I will keep this great idea for version 2.0.

Thanks

Marcus

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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 12:29 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not
the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes
and the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?



Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward.  I think this might
be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly  under the
found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling.


You mean to combine both boxes, like suggested by Rob?


And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the
lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top
item under Documentation

and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy
versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already
there really but maybe need to be reworded.)


For sure, the many links below the green box need a clean-up.
I'll note this for doing after the drop-boxes are ready.


This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the
user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only
contain signature and hashes info.

What do others think?


Yes, sounds good.

Marcus


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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 10:38 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 4/28/14 12:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not
the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes
and the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?



Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward.  I think this might
be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly  under the
found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling.

And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the
lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top
item under Documentation

and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy
versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already
there really but maybe need to be reworded.)

This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the
user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only
contain signature and hashes info.


I like the idea in general as well and Kay provided some good ideas
already to improve the structure.

We should use the drop down boxes to for older releases as well. Means a
further drop down box where the user can select the version, default is
always the latest and greatest.


Sounds good. A more comfortable selector for archived versions.

But then we need a strong commitment to keep the download structure and 
naming unique - to avoid to script exceptions just because versions are 
named and placed slightly different. ;-)



For example for 4.1 we can drop the 32 bit version for Mac to avoid
confusion.

The link 'Get all platforms, languages, language packs' can be
potentially removed completely if we allow the selection of the product.


Absolutely, should be the main target for this new UI.

Marcus


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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 06:00 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:

On Sun, Apr 27, Marcus wrote:


[...] I made some progress about a long-term problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

[...] Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/
index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel [...] this can and will be
improved for sure.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
Or do you have complete different thoughts?



Looks nice and more compact, Marcus.
In addition to Kay's suggestions, I'd like to suggest to drop the
[redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box, and the
line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you


This sounds like you suggest to combine the green and grey box. Do I 
understand it right?



suggested; we can solve it at a programmable way (e.g. disable 2nd
drop-down until 1st drop-down has a valid selection).


Yes, will try to do this.


Also, the gray box could appear only after clicking Get a different
version, which stands for other version, language, or OS.


This link was not often seen in the past - at least we got several 
questions how to get other builds. So, to be honest, I would doubt that 
the grey box would be then seen by all users. ;-)



Great work :)


Thanks

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Re: Quote requested-Open Office 3

2014-04-28 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 14/04/2014 Rob Weir wrote:
 https://www.openoffice.org/faq.html
 There is also these FAQ's on the wiki:
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ
 Why do we have two places for FAQs?   I'm sure there was a good reason
 once...
 
 Back at the time only a few people had write access to the website. So
 it was easier to maintain stuff on the wiki, since everybody could
 contribute there. The FAQ page on openoffice.org has a nice URL but it's
 totally outdated (the latest changes were done by me, but just to add an
 outdated notice for people who came from search engines).
 
 Ideally, the FAQ section on the wiki should be reviewed, even though
 it's already much better than the one on the site, and then maybe moved
 to the site.
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.
Andrea;

The FAQ section on the wiki is more up to date as I took on the task a
year ago to update it with the relevant FAQ's from the website. I
thought I had sent a mail to the list to have the relevant one's from
the website redirected, but I apparently never sent that.

Obviously the whole question is opened again as to where they should
reside. I have categories all ready for the Developer FAQ's. I did not
touch them as part of the original clean-up as I do not have enough
knowledge in that area to pick and choose which are still relevant. If
the decision is to move them to the wiki I will be more than glad to do
the grunt work of rewording them, I just need some assistance from the
developer community as to which ones are still relevant.

Regards
Keith



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Re: My Introduction

2014-04-28 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Jupiter Weinman wrote:
  Hello Members of Apache OpenOffice,
 
 My name is Matthew Weinman. I am interested in gaining knowledge
 and experience
 in the field of technical writing. I am a published author of fiction,
 which I know is
 much different, and have recently graduated from a small college with an 
 English
 degree.
 
 I know very little about the field of technical writing, but feel
 with my background
 I would be able to develop the skills necessary to make a career in
 tech-writing.
 Since I've never been in a group such as this, I'm wondering, How do I even
 get started?
 
 The, 'Introduction to Contributing,' page advised me to send an
 email to this
 account, then, I would be on the mailing list. I'm excited to start and any
 information on the field of technical writing would be much appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Matthew Weinman
 
Welcome Matthew;

First let me apologize for the lateness of this reply. Unfortunately
your original got lost in the fairly hi volume traffic of this list. If
you are interested in joining the documentation team I would suggest the
following page as a starter.
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-doc.html. This is the
orientation page for the Documentation team. I also highly recommend the
level One and Two pages from
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html. They give a good
overview of how the project is structured and the infrastructure that it
utilizes.

Your background in English will be a great help as we need editors to
review and make changes in grammatical structure and the like. Some of
our writers do not have English as a first language, and some of us,
mostly myself, are native speakers, but are not always expert grammarians.

I look forward to working with you.

Regards
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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Tal Daniel
On Mon, Apr 28, Marcus wrote:

 Am 04/28/2014 06:00 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:

 [...]Looks nice and more compact, Marcus. [...] I'd like to suggest to
 drop the [redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box,
 and the

 line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you added
 ...


 This sounds like you suggest to combine the green and grey box. Do I
 understand it right?


No, just thought to remove texts that are too trivial/obvious.
Combining the boxes, as others suggest, could work too, if you're afraid
that people won't find the download other versions link.

Tal


Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/28/2014 10:30 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:

On Mon, Apr 28, Marcus wrote:


Am 04/28/2014 06:00 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:


[...]Looks nice and more compact, Marcus. [...] I'd like to suggest to

drop the [redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box,
and the


line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you added
...



This sounds like you suggest to combine the green and grey box. Do I
understand it right?



No, just thought to remove texts that are too trivial/obvious.
Combining the boxes, as others suggest, could work too, if you're afraid
that people won't find the download other versions link.


Ah, understood, I added this because I thought of the opposite. ;-)
And to make clear to first choose an OS, then a language because it 
didn't worked the other way around. But I've removed it for now.


As suggested I can try to activate the next droplist only when the 
previous one is filled. Then the text is indeed no longer needed.


Regarding the text in the green box, this should be kept as I've 
recently added (hosted by Sourceforge.net) [1].


This is to make sure that the users know that the download finally comes 
not from an OpenOffice or Apache server but by our hosting partner 
Sourceforge.


I would like to give this a try for some weeks to see if we still get 
complains or not.


[1] See the mail tread Adding from SourceForge to download page a 
few days ago)


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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-04-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Thanks a lot for your input.

A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice 
order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the 
most need more time.


Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 
release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free 
days are coming. :-)


Marcus



Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too close to look  feel - sure the grey color is not
the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes
and the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
Or do you have complete different thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
  prepared to have the final release bits in place.
 
  Pre release
  1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
  2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
  3. update the download mechanism
  4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)
 
  Post release
  1. release blog post
  2. feeding social media

 I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

 -Rob

  3. update the update mechanism
 
 
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we need help from Mac users on digital certificate instructions

2014-04-28 Thread Kay Schenk
Some recent findings primarily dealing with *nix users have caused us to
make changes to the instructions on the wiki for digital certificates
(inline instructions will need to be changed as well after this release)--

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_use_digital_Signatures

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Certificate_Detection

If you are a Mac user, please let us know your experience in this regard.
If you have a wiki account, feel free to make changes.

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
  prepared to have the final release bits in place.
 
  Pre release
  1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
  2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
  3. update the download mechanism
  4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)
 
  Post release
  1. release blog post
  2. feeding social media

 I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

 -Rob

  3. update the update mechanism
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
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ummm.. .the BZ fixed bug search seems to be missing at this point  (??)


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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Rist

+1
Tested on 2 platforms and build from scratch.
Let's get this out there...

A.

On 4/28/2014 8:30 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

+1 from me.

I did my standard testing on 3 platforms, build the src release and
think it will be a very solid and good version. I used a snapshot build
(later the Beta, RC's) since weeks for my daily work ...

Juergen

On 4/25/14 5:11 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html

The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701

RC3:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639

RC2:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394


The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

(alternative directly via
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)

*.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
saved manually (save link as ...).

The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

The vote starts now and will be open until:

Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...





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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Not sure if the poll is still open but ...
it's still monday here. ;).

+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Kay Schenk wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi,

 assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
 prepared to have the final release bits in place.

 Pre release
 1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
 2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
 3. update the download mechanism
 4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)

 Post release
 1. release blog post
 2. feeding social media

 I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

 -Rob

 3. update the update mechanism


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 ummm.. .the BZ fixed bug search seems to be missing at this point  (??)
 
 
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Kay;

I just checked the Release Notes and both links to the Bugzilla search
resolve fine for me. Which one was giving you the problem?

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
  prepared to have the final release bits in place.
 
  Pre release
  1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
  2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
  3. update the download mechanism
  4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)
 
  Post release
  1. release blog post
  2. feeding social media

 I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

 -Rob

  3. update the update mechanism
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
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I thought the Kazakh translation did not make it into this release?

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-28 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Rob Weir wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi,

 assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
 prepared to have the final release bits in place.

 Pre release
 1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
 2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
 3. update the download mechanism
 4. wait until the official go for the release ;-) (all)

 Post release
 1. release blog post
 2. feeding social media

 I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

 -Rob

 3. update the update mechanism


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 I thought the Kazakh translation did not make it into this release?
 
 -Rob
 
Rob;
I checked the Bugzilla issue and indeed it never got completed enough to
be released. I have removed it from the release notes.

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