Re: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Oliver Brinzing

Hi Brett,

> Ok I'll try to build 4.2.0.


ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex


maybe you misunderstood: i asked because the error you mentioned seems to occur if one tries to 
build aoo420.


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Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-02 Thread Marcus

Am 01/02/2016 04:10 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:



On 1/1/2016 1:24 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 12/31/2015 10:04 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

On 12/31/2015 11:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote:

Hi,

let me say a few words on this too:

I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never
experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the contrary, it has
helped
me a few times to retrieve a document I've had a problem with
(such as
losing it for some reason or other. I think users will benefit from
the
autosave being enabled by default.


I also have autosave enabled, and have not experienced any problems
with
it personally.



Both of you work with ODF and export to foreign formats when necessary.

Bill M wrote:

The only change I made was to
turn off the question about save in ODF format as I send it to other
people
in RTF or Microsoft DOC format.


Bill M uses OpenOffice as an editor for foreign file formats which is
the anti-feature that deserves to be disabled completely. All documents
should be edited in ODF. Always. When you save another version in
foreign file format, the current document should remain the ODF source.
Foreign files should be loaded read-only and saved as ODF before
editing.


As an AOO user, I would sadly miss the ability to directly edit foreign
file formats - they are often effectively the interchange format for
collaborations. I want to see ASAP if I am using some formatting that
cannot be preserved in the file's primary format.

I suspect I am not the only user who would go with LibreOffice if it
allows me to edit MS-Word documents directly and OpenOffice does not.


to prevent any misunderstandings. It's not about to kick out any foreign
formats. The point is the following:

- Write something in Writer
- Save it as ODT
- The editor stays with the text in ODT format
- Then save it as DOC
- The editor stays with the text in DOC format

--> And this is the point to change. The editor should stay with the
original ODT format and not with a foreign format.


[...]

As I understand it, you want to add some "Save it as ODT" steps to the
workflow. Where would they go, and why, as an end-user, do I want to do
them?


no, I don't want to add something. I just wanted to explain that the 
editor should stay with the previous format and should not switch to the 
last saved one - e.g., DOC.


Marcus


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RE: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Brett Grentell
Hi Oliver,

I tried your example exactly (except for varying directory structure).  This 
time I'm getting:

Entering /cygdrive/c/build_tmp/openoffice/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex


1 module(s):
sal
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/cygdrive/c/build_tmp/openoffice/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build 
by running:

 build --all:sal



-Original Message-
From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:44 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Compiler Error

Hi Bret,

i was able to build aoo411 and 412 debug builds with the following 
configuration:

SourceMain=/cygdrive/c/build_tmp/aoo_src/main
cd $SourceMain
autoconf
./configure \
--with-build-version="$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %z (%a, %d %b %Y)")" \ 
--with-vendor="AOO Debug Build" \ 
--with-dmake-url="http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
 \ --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/build/ant" \ 
--with-mozilla-build="/cygdrive/c/build/mozilla-build" \ 
--with-frame-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0" \ 
--with-psdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0" \ 
--with-midl-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0/bin" \ 
--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC" 
 \ --with-mspdb-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 
9.0/Common7/IDE" \ --with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft 
Visual Studio 9.0/VC/bin" \ 
--with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \ 
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0"  \ 
--with-nsis-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/NSIS/Unicode" \ 
--with-directx-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft DirectX SDK 
(June 2010)" \ 
--with-atl-include-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/atl71" \ 
--with-atl-lib-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/ATL/i386" \ 
--with-mfc-include-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/mfc42" \ 
--with-mfc-lib-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/Mfc/i386" \ 
--enable-pch \ --with-package-format="installed msi" \ 
--enable-win-x64-shellext \ --enable-category-b \ --enable-bundled-dictionaries 
\ --with-lang="de" \ --without-stlport \ --without-junit \ --enable-verbose \ 
--disable-odk \ --without-fonts

./bootstrap
source winenv.set.sh
cd instsetoo_native
build --all --html -P2 -- -P2

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Oliver

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RE: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Brett Grentell
I had a look at how I tried to compile.  I did it fresh through git with "git 
clone https://github.com/apache/openoffice.git;

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 8:44 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Compiler Error

Hi Brett,

>   ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
> /cygdrive/c/build_tmp/openoffice/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex

Did you try to build AOO 4.2.0?

I just found: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.office/2894

dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'osl_Mutex_run'
1 module(s):
sal
need(s) to be rebuilt
Reason(s):
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex


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Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-02 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 01.01.2016 um 22:39 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> 
> Meanwhile, I think it would be wonderful if on opening documents there were
> *accurate* warnings that the document relies on format features that are not
> supported and that will not be presented or preserved properly.  (If we
> preserved the original as a backup, that would be helpful though, so
> something to think about.)  I think it would be great if the same were true
> on saving a document in a format for which features are not preserved by the
> save operation.  Not the scare warning, but accurate warnings.  Not
> necessarily detailed.  Then the recommendation to save in ODF first to
> ensure preservation would make sense and perhaps the save to the format for
> which fidelity is not offered would be treated as an export in that case.
> 


This is what I use to suggest on the user forum when users need to
exchange mail attachments with MSO users. I got very positive feedback
for this:

1) Open the incoming doc/xls attachment. It might be loaded as a
read-only copy residing in a temporary directory.
2) Save as ODF in your home directory and work with that.
3) Finally, menu:File>Send>Document as doc/xls

This way you keep the incoming doc/xls in your inbox, the outgoing
doc/xls in your outbox and an ODF document to work with.

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RE: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Brett Grentell
Hi Oliver,

I'm just about to try 4.1.2.  

Brett

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:40 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Compiler Error

Hi Brett,

 > Ok I'll try to build 4.2.0.
>
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/sal/qa
> /osl/mutex

maybe you misunderstood: i asked because the error you mentioned seems to occur 
if one tries to build aoo420.

Regards
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Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-02 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 02.01.2016 um 04:10 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> 
> That is not quite the use-case I was thinking of. When collaborating, I
> often need to edit a document I did not originate. Commonly, the
> document will be in a Microsoft Word format, and has to be distributed
> in that format. There is no "original ODT format" document. Since I
> usually collaborate with computer people, revision control is important.
> 
> One natural sequence is:
> 
> - Check out DOC format document from revision control.
> - Edit and save it.
> - Check it in to revision control
> - Edit it some more and save it again.
> - Check it in to revision control
> - Update because someone else has edited and checked it in.
> - Edit it still more, and save it again.
> - Check it in to revision control
> 

I would either edit my own ODF copies or buy some capable doc(x) editor
in the long run. The two ODF suites are not good enough.

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RE: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Brett Grentell
Ok I'll try to build 4.2.0.

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 8:44 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Compiler Error

Hi Brett,

>   ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
> /cygdrive/c/build_tmp/openoffice/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex

Did you try to build AOO 4.2.0?

I just found: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.office/2894

dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'osl_Mutex_run'
1 module(s):
sal
need(s) to be rebuilt
Reason(s):
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex


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Re: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Oliver Brinzing

Hi Brett,


ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/cygdrive/c/build_tmp/openoffice/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex


Did you try to build AOO 4.2.0?

I just found: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.office/2894

dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'osl_Mutex_run'
1 module(s):
sal
need(s) to be rebuilt
Reason(s):
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/sal/qa/osl/mutex



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Re: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread j.nitsc...@ok.de
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:35:43 +1100 Brett Grentell wrote:
> I had a look at how I tried to compile.  I did it fresh through git with "git 
> clone https://github.com/apache/openoffice.git; 
the windows builds fail compiling the unit test
you could try building without them by adding --disable-unit-tests to
your configure command
 
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Re: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Kay Schenk


On 01/02/2016 02:43 AM, j.nitsc...@ok.de wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:35:43 +1100 Brett Grentell wrote:
>> I had a look at how I tried to compile.  I did it fresh through git with 
>> "git clone https://github.com/apache/openoffice.git; 
> the windows builds fail compiling the unit test
> you could try building without them by adding --disable-unit-tests to
> your configure command
>  

I am not a windows builder, but...right now this is the output from
the build failure for aoo-win7 in /main/sal/qa/osl/mutex

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/win/main/sal/wntmsci12.pro/misc/logs/qa.osl.mutex.txt

Looks like a missing or non-generated header file.

Is this what you are experiencing?

...and we still seem to be stuck with the "apr" permission problem :(

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/win/ext_libraries/apr/wntmsci12.pro/misc/logs/apr.txt


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Re: Reporting broken download link

2016-01-02 Thread Marcus

Am 01/02/2016 11:25 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

On 01/01/2016 kclbaur wrote:

On http://www.openoffice.org/de/spellcheck/about-spellcheck-
dicoooinfo.html i wanted download language packets. I only got "Fehler:
Server nicht gefunden" All the languages the same.


That page is completely outdated, it goes back to OpenOffice version
1.x. A German-speaking volunteer should simply delete it all and replace
the entire page with a note saying "DicOOo has been replaced by
Extensions. Dictionaries can now be found at
http://extensions.openoffice.org/;.


done.

The webpage "http://www.openoffice.org/de/spellcheck/; points already to 
the extensions.


Marcus


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Re: Finished Fourth Volunteer Orientation Module

2016-01-02 Thread Kay Schenk

On 01/02/2016 12:02 PM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> Kay,
> 
> My main interests are C++ development and user support.
> I added an entry to the Directory of Volunteers on the wiki.  That
> has my full list of skills.
> 
> I already signed up for the user support forum.
> I also had a Bugzilla account using another e-mail address, but it's
> not letting me log in for some reason...

Your interests and skills are perfect for this project. Thanks for
adding your information to the volunteer page.

Can you please forward the email address you used for your BZ
account -- to me personally if you desire -- so we can troubleshoot
this. You will definitely need access to BZ to work on bugs.

> 
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk  > wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/20/2015 11:54 AM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I know it's been a while since I started, but I finished the
> fourth
> > volunteer orientation module.
> > BTW, how much is IRC used in this project?
> >
> 
> Hi again Lilith --
> 
> Don't worry about the time it took you to get through the modules.
> We're just happy to hear from you.  :) You might need to remind us
> what your interests are again, though.
> 
> RE IRC. We don't really use this. We communicate exclusively through
> our mailing lists in more cases. So, you will need to subscribe to
> one or more depending on your interests.
> (Please see the mailing list page:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html)
> 
> The exception to this is if you're interested in helping users
> through the Forum, in which case you will need to apply for a Forum
> account -- https://forum.openoffice.org/.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> MzK
> 
> “I appreciate failure. Failure means that an
>  attempt was made,  and a lesson can be learned.
>  As long as we’re alive after the effort,
>  there is a chance for success the next time around.”
> -- George Tekai, "Oh Myyy!"
> 
> 

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Re: Finished Fourth Volunteer Orientation Module

2016-01-02 Thread Lalith Ramesh
Kay,

My main interests are C++ development and user support.
I added an entry to the Directory of Volunteers on the wiki.  That has my
full list of skills.

I already signed up for the user support forum.
I also had a Bugzilla account using another e-mail address, but it's not
letting me log in for some reason...

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

>
> On 12/20/2015 11:54 AM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I know it's been a while since I started, but I finished the fourth
> > volunteer orientation module.
> > BTW, how much is IRC used in this project?
> >
>
> Hi again Lilith --
>
> Don't worry about the time it took you to get through the modules.
> We're just happy to hear from you.  :) You might need to remind us
> what your interests are again, though.
>
> RE IRC. We don't really use this. We communicate exclusively through
> our mailing lists in more cases. So, you will need to subscribe to
> one or more depending on your interests.
> (Please see the mailing list page:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html)
>
> The exception to this is if you're interested in helping users
> through the Forum, in which case you will need to apply for a Forum
> account -- https://forum.openoffice.org/.
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> “I appreciate failure. Failure means that an
>  attempt was made,  and a lesson can be learned.
>  As long as we’re alive after the effort,
>  there is a chance for success the next time around.”
> -- George Tekai, "Oh Myyy!"
>
>


Re: Reporting broken download link

2016-01-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Marcus wrote:

Am 01/02/2016 11:25 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

http://www.openoffice.org/de/spellcheck/about-spellcheck-dicoooinfo.html

A German-speaking volunteer should simply delete it all and replace ...

done.


Thanks, but unfortunately the build failed. I don't think this is 
related to your specific commit; I tried another commit in that 
directory, just to change a link and trigger a rebuild, but it is still 
stuck: https://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging


It seems this is a task for Infra.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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RE: Compiler Error

2016-01-02 Thread Brett Grentell
Hi Oliver,

I had a go with aoo-4.1.2.  This time most of the build goes well, but then:-

=
Building module instsetoo_native
=

Entering 
/cygdrive/c/build_tmp/aoo-4.1.2/main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_languages

mkout -- version: 1.8

Entering /cygdrive/c/build_tmp/aoo-4.1.2/main/instsetoo_native/util


Entering /cygdrive/c/build_tmp/aoo-4.1.2/main/instsetoo_native/util


1 module(s):
 instsetoo_native
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/cygdrive/c/build_tmp/aoo-4.1.2/main/instsetoo_native/util

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build 
by running:

 build --from instsetoo_native

Not too sure where I've gone wrong here.

Brett Grentell

-Original Message-
From: Brett Grentell [mailto:bgrent...@icloud.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:22 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Compiler Error

Hi Oliver,

I'm just about to try 4.1.2.  

Brett

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de]
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:40 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Compiler Error

Hi Brett,

 > Ok I'll try to build 4.2.0.
>
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/sal/qa
> /osl/mutex

maybe you misunderstood: i asked because the error you mentioned seems to occur 
if one tries to build aoo420.

Regards
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