Re: 4.1.3 building

[Andrea Pescetti]

Patricia Shanahan wrote:

1. My current policy for release blocker is to grant it immediately if
it seems obvious to me that a fix is needed to build 4.1.3. I will also
do so based on prior security@ discussion. Otherwise, I'll ask for input
on dev@ before deciding.


OK. 4.1.4 is a good fallback solution for important but not critical 
bugs anyway.



2. I would like to get a list of environments in which 4.1.3 has been
successfully built. I'll announce time to build a release candidate when
it builds in the required environments.


I've built AOO413 on Linux-64 with the following details:
- CentOS 5 VM as described in 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_5

- Source revision r1761818
- Real source revision r1761381 (both are obtained using "svn info"; the 
latter is the one that matters, as the former increases for any commit 
in any ASF project)
- Build scripts as per 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.3/unxlngix6/


Sample builds (English, German, Italian) from a few hours ago -but not 
from my latest build- are at 
http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.3-dev-r1761683/


There are a few differences in the configure options, namely:

1) Build Version is a bit richer in 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Configure 
but I went for the more compact one from the 4.1.2 scripts


2) Language list is much longer in the 4.1.2 scripts and I maintained 
that one - even though I usually build with fewer languages


3) Package format does not have "installed" in the 4.1.2 scripts, which 
looks OK (we only ship RPM+DEB)


4) We were using ant 1.7.1 (from the repositories?) for 4.1.2 builds, 
see 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.2/unxlngix6/config.log?revision=1736814=markup#l1134 
; we download and use 1.9.7 now; I haven't checked this properly yet, 
but we had a recent discussion with Kay saying that configure (which 
checks for ant >= 1.7.0) was wrong.


5) We are now explicitly passing --without-stlport which looks good 
since (if I recall correctly) this was the default anyway.


6) We are now passing --without-junit ; I'm still not completely clear 
if this makes any difference in our case.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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4.1.3 building

[Patricia Shanahan]

1. My current policy for release blocker is to grant it immediately if 
it seems obvious to me that a fix is needed to build 4.1.3. I will also 
do so based on prior security@ discussion. Otherwise, I'll ask for input 
on dev@ before deciding.


2. I would like to get a list of environments in which 4.1.3 has been 
successfully built. I'll announce time to build a release candidate when 
it builds in the required environments.


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Re: Ready to setup release build machines?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:10:29AM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

(the way it is now; I haven't checked
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127120 yet) it uses only packages
from CentOS and EPEL repositories, plus custom Ant and Perl as the versions
shipping with CentOS 5 are too old.


With the commit for this bug, in AOO413 you can use Perl from CentOS
repos


Thanks Ariel, I've now regenerated the VM using system Perl. Everything 
worked correctly.


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_5 
is now updated to work with distribution-supplied packages only.


The only package we don't download from the distribution is Ant, but 
that is unavoidable. So the recipe is now as simple and clean as it can be.


New Linux-64 binaries are uploaded to
http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.3-dev-r1761683/

For Patricia's roadmap, this means that anyone can take the recipe at 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_5 
and produce a full set of Linux release builds from scratch, using 
documented processes and tools, in less than 24 hours (perhaps a bit 
more considering we are all volunteers, but still a matter of days and 
not months).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Fwd: 4.1.3_release_blocker requested: [Issue 127127] English dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated

[Marcus]

Am 09/21/2016 10:17 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Patricia Shanahan wrote:

How would granting 4.1.3_release_blocker on this impact progress on the
builds?


It wouldn't have had a major impact, but in this case (as later
clarified in the issue) the blocker request is simply a misunderstanding.


if the following is and was always the case then it's maybe my fault as 
I said Pedro to flag the issue as blocker when he wanted to fix the 
outdated dic versions in 4.1.3.


Sorry when I've produced this confusion.


As a general rule, we first apply fixes on trunk and then copy them to
AOO413. Dictionary updates were considered "release-specific" in this
case and thus only applied to AOO413, but it's clearer to always update
on trunk and then port; so I've just merged the fixes back to trunk
-where they conflicted, since we had already updated a few dictionaries
on trunk- to align the branches.

Anyway, progress on the builds is independent of specific issues; once
you deem that people should start building (i.e., that no important
issues are left; it seems we do not have pending work), just state the
revision that people should build and we'll coordinate for the Release
Candidate build.


Marcus


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Re: Fwd: 4.1.3_release_blocker requested: [Issue 127127] English dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated

[Andrea Pescetti]

Patricia Shanahan wrote:

How would granting 4.1.3_release_blocker on this impact progress on the
builds?


It wouldn't have had a major impact, but in this case (as later 
clarified in the issue) the blocker request is simply a misunderstanding.


As a general rule, we first apply fixes on trunk and then copy them to 
AOO413. Dictionary updates were considered "release-specific" in this 
case and thus only applied to AOO413, but it's clearer to always update 
on trunk and then port; so I've just merged the fixes back to trunk 
-where they conflicted, since we had already updated a few dictionaries 
on trunk- to align the branches.


Anyway, progress on the builds is independent of specific issues; once 
you deem that people should start building (i.e., that no important 
issues are left; it seems we do not have pending work), just state the 
revision that people should build and we'll coordinate for the Release 
Candidate build.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: How do all the binaries get built?

[Jim Jagielski]

I'll set one up in the next day.

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> On 19/09/2016 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> If useful, I can replace my 64bit CentOS5 vm with a 32bit one.
> 
> It would be useful (to have more coverage) to test
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_5
> on a 32-bit VM, and adapting -it's trivial- the script at
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.3/
> to check that we have a good recipe to obtain Linux-32 binaries as well as 
> the Linux-64 binaries I've just uploaded to
> http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.3-dev-r1761552
> 
> Thanks,
>  Andrea.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Buildbot builds should include mor than en-US only

[Jim Jagielski]

Where is this documented? I can see the ./configure line in
the puppet files but we should also have this on a wiki someplace,
right?

> On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> I remember that old times at Sun where we have done builds with more than 
> just en-US.
> 
> In order to cover problems that could be language-related we have built:
> 
> - en-US - as default
> - de - for the lazy German guys ;-) , can be left out now
> - pt - as these language has mostly the longest strings
> - one Asian language (ko, ja, zh-CN, zh-TW) to cover BIDI and font
>  problems
> 
> So, I suggest to expand the build.lst to this setup.
> 
> Marcus
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Fwd: 4.1.3_release_blocker requested: [Issue 127127] English dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated

[Patricia Shanahan]

How would granting 4.1.3_release_blocker on this impact progress on the 
builds?



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dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated

Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:37:17 +
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Pedro  has asked  for 4.1.3_release_blocker:
Issue 127127: English dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127127

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4.1.3_release_blocker requested: [Issue 127127] English dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated

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Pedro  has asked  for 4.1.3_release_blocker:
Issue 127127: English dictionary included in 4.1.3 installer is outdated
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127127

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Re: Windows 10 ./bootstrap failure

[Marcus]

I use this URL for successfully downloading dmake:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2

HTH

Marcus



Am 09/21/2016 07:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I missed a couple of configure parameter changes I need.

On 9/21/2016 10:03 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I believe I have done all the preliminary steps. configure appeared to
work, but I have a persistent bootstrap failure:

...
all external libraries present
downloading dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
downloading to
C:/OpenOfficeDev/AOO413/ext_sources/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2.part
download from
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
failed (404 Not Found)
download failed
epm-3.7.tar.gz exists
making and entering
C:/OpenOfficeDev/AOO413/main/solenv/wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/
can not find the dmake package


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Re: Windows 10 ./bootstrap failure

[Patricia Shanahan]

I missed a couple of configure parameter changes I need.

On 9/21/2016 10:03 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I believe I have done all the preliminary steps. configure appeared to
work, but I have a persistent bootstrap failure:

...
all external libraries present
downloading dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
downloading to C:/OpenOfficeDev/AOO413/ext_sources/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2.part
download from
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
failed (404 Not Found)
download failed
epm-3.7.tar.gz exists
making and entering
C:/OpenOfficeDev/AOO413/main/solenv/wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/
can not find the dmake package


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Windows 10 ./bootstrap failure

[Patricia Shanahan]

I believe I have done all the preliminary steps. configure appeared to 
work, but I have a persistent bootstrap failure:


...
all external libraries present
downloading dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
downloading to C:/OpenOfficeDev/AOO413/ext_sources/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2.part
download from 
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2 
failed (404 Not Found)

download failed
epm-3.7.tar.gz exists
making and entering 
C:/OpenOfficeDev/AOO413/main/solenv/wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/

can not find the dmake package

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Re: Release-Planung

[Günter Feierabend]

Hallo Michael,

> Am 21.09.2016 um 07:06 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann 
> :
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> wer etwas über die Release-Planung unseres Projekts erfahren will, aber
> sich nicht durch die internationale dev-ML lesen möchte:
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/stop_the_lazy_season_start
> 
> Es ist nur ein grober Aufriss, aber es gilt auch das Motto: Erst wenn es
> fertig ist, wird es verbreitet.

Super! Ich freue mich, dass es nun doch weitergeht. Und bugfixes sind 
tatsächlich an manchen Stellen nötig. Bin sehr neugierig, welche dies dann 
gewesen sein werden.

Danke für den Hinweis!

Gruß
Günter


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Re: Apache OpenOffice on google+

[Matthias Seidel]

I am quite sure it was Rob Weir who managed it.

As for the AOO-community
(https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/103683488250592271079) there
are some members listed as "Moderator" who still should have
access/rights to the profile. Some of them might be still active.

regards

Matthias


Am 20.09.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 09/19/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Is anyone actually moderating the AOO-profile on google+? (This
>> mailadress is listed as contact)
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+openoffice/posts
>
> IMHO Rob Weir has managed this until he has left. I don't know who is
> managing this now or is able to access the account. Does anybody else
> know?
>
>> It has been quite active sometimes but now there is no news since
>> 29.10.2015.
>>
>> Maybe a good place to announce the upcoming 4.1.3?
>
> Yes, sure. Thanks in the meantime. :-)
>
> Marcus
>
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Re: Last call for 4.1.3 patches

[Matthias Seidel]

I installed the german DEB on Ubuntu 16.04.1 (64bit)

So far everything is working as expected...

regards

Matthias


Am 21.09.2016 um 01:04 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> On 17/09/2016 Mechtilde wrote:
>> Am 17.09.2016 um 07:25 schrieb Mechtilde:
>>> is there a first "nightly build for version 4.1.3 available?
>> I forgot:
>> my system is Debian 64-bit
>
> Buildbots aside (they were not working last time I checked), you can
> use the 4.1.3-dev builds at
>
> http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.3-dev-r1761552/
>
> ...and I've already spammed three different threads, so I'll stop here!
>
> DEBs are completely untested, so testing is at your own risk as usual.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Fwd: [Issue 125147] CRASH applying styles to text

[Patricia Shanahan]

On 9/19/2016 9:20 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
...

Given this is already late you should probably reconsider bringing in
some fixes to known bugs. If the idea is just that 4.1.3 = 4.1.2 +
CVE-2016-15-13, then it seems to be a huge waste of bandwidth for both
mirrors and end users.

All just IMHO,

...

From a bandwidth point of view, the end users are what matters - they 
generate the tens of thousands of transfers. If we release 4.1.3 with 
release notes and press releases that say what is in it, they can decide 
for themselves whether to download or not. If we effectively combine 
4.1.3 with 4.1.4 and delay it until we get more fixes in, the end users 
don't get that choice.


In addition to the security fixes, in my view a major objective of 4.1.3 
is to reestablish the ability to release AOO. The more often we produce 
point releases, the better we will get at generating them, and the less 
vulnerable we will be if a security issue needs to be fixed quickly.


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Re: Release-Planung

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Am 21.09.2016 um 07:50 schrieb Dave:
> Danke habe den Blog gerade gelesen. Das macht einem Mut!
> 

Schade, dass Du das im Blog nicht kommentieren kannst.

Aber es ist auch nachvollziehbar, warum dort diese Funktion abgeschaltet
ist.

Gruß
Michael





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