Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Branko Čibej
On 18.11.2018 23:30, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 17 Nov, Pedro Lino wrote:
>>> On November 17, 2018 at 5:32 PM Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>>> A nice additional benefit is that this gives us a simple way to 
>>> reproduce the bug, equivalent to the update notification.
>>>
>>> $ soffice https://ooo-updates.apache.org/index.html
>>> (this fails on Ubuntu, succeeds on Fedora)
>>>
>>> Note that
>>>
>>> $ soffice https://www.google.com/
>>> will work in all cases (so this is not an HTTPS bug per se) and
>>>
>>> $ soffice http://ooo-updates.apache.org/index.html
>>> will work in all cases (so this not a network issue but rather an SSL 
>>> issue).
>>>
>>> Now, debugging SSL issues is not easy, but can the people who don't get 
>>> updates at least confirm the three results above, i.e., that only the 
>>> first one fails?
>> Confirmed that only the first one fails.
>> I always get the message (even when it didn't fail to open the page) 
>>
>> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
>>
>> ** (soffice:10458): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>>  
>>> Further tests show that problematic systems have issues with ASF sites 
>>> in HTTPS, like:
>>> $ soffice https://www.apache.org/ # Fails
>>> $ soffice http://www.apache.org/  # Succeeds
>>> $ soffice https://www.openoffice.org/ # Fails
>>> $ soffice http://www.openoffice.org/  # Succeeds
>>> $ soffice https://... # Succeeds for any site I put there, except ASF 
>>> sites, but I'd love to see a non-ASF example of a failing HTTPS site.
>> Confirmed. HTTPS links fail, HTTP succeed
> The HTTPS links all work for me with the FreeBSD port of 4.1.6.  One
> difference is that the FreeBSD port uses the system OpenSSL, currently
> 1.02p or newer.
>
> Does the Apache web server still support TLS version 1.0?  The old
> version of OpenSSL that we bundle with the Windows and Linux versions
> doesn't support anything newer than that.


It looks like you found the real problem:

$ curl -sviI --tlsv1.0 https://ooo-updates.apache.org/
*   Trying 40.79.78.1...
...
* TLSv1.0 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
* TLSv1.0 (IN), TLS alert, Server hello (2):
* error:1400442E:SSL routines:CONNECT_CR_SRVR_HELLO:tlsv1 alert protocol version


Connection fails with options --tlsv1.0 and --tlsv1.1 but succeeds with
--tlsv1.2. Which is in fact a good thing; TLSv1 and TLSv1.1 both have
known security bugs.

It is usually a bad idea to bundle OpenSSL instead of using the
system-provided version; but if you do have to do that (e.g., on
Windows, which doesn't have it, or macOS, which has an ancient version),
at least use the latest 1.0.2 version, or even better, 1.1.0.

-- Brane


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Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

2018-11-18 Thread sandro

The appraisal of completing expectations is fulfilling and I find it fulfilling 
to appreciate a smile in the face of my colleagues, because attainment fulfills 
the will and cooperation fulfills the emotion.

I feel that the installation of MediaWiki was successful, it was a bright sight 
of confirmation of the beauty that I expected from this software. Now I want to 
write the actual skin, I tell write because it seen that I will have to write 
the CSS of the new skin and it fulfils myself as a discovery.

Maybe in the next week I complete the task. I would like to tell that the Wiki 
project is really engrossing me like a tender delight or an advance to 
congratulation, I really like to drive myself to do Wiki.

Glad,
Sandro Suzart



De: sandro 
Enviado: domingo, 28 de outubro de 2018 22:38
Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

Dear Andrea,

I have found the Wiki's Skin fulfilling because of it's friendly form and I 
have found the PHP work fulfilling because of it's sympathetic way. The 
friendly form is an aspect of a sympathetic way of work and I find it 
fulfilling both the friendly and the sympathetic aspects of the task.

How good did I feel the CSS work? Well, I feel it a secure task because now the 
remain thing is the creation of a database to use the Wiki's editor. The Wiki's 
editor is an involving application and it works well in my browser, it is 
certainly driving me to happiness.

Glad,
Sandro Suzart




De: Andrea Pescetti 
Enviado: sábado, 13 de outubro de 2018 16:11
Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

On 06/09/2018 Peter kovacs wrote:
> Hi Andrea,
> Can you specify at least one task? So Sandro can make a plan.

It took a while, but here I am with a task.

One of the many things that would be nice to have is a new skin (i.e.,
graphical theme) for our MWiki
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page
(which is also being moved to a new server, but this is irrelevant to
this discussion).

This requires some PHP and design capabilities, and a tutorial is
available at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning_Part_1
and related pages.

Sandro, can this work as a task for you? All you will need is a standard
MediaWiki installation from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download (I
recommend the "stable LTS" version, since that is the one we are going
to settle on) and the tutorial above.

If you would like to receive the current skin (I don't even know if it
is a skin or just a set of CSS customizations) just ask and I can
provide it; but honestly I would start from
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_skins then find one that you
like and extend/customize it.

The logo must be updated too and Matthias already sent the new one.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Don Lewis
On 17 Nov, Pedro Lino wrote:
>> On November 17, 2018 at 5:32 PM Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
>> A nice additional benefit is that this gives us a simple way to 
>> reproduce the bug, equivalent to the update notification.
>> 
>> $ soffice https://ooo-updates.apache.org/index.html
>> (this fails on Ubuntu, succeeds on Fedora)
>> 
>> Note that
>> 
>> $ soffice https://www.google.com/
>> will work in all cases (so this is not an HTTPS bug per se) and
>> 
>> $ soffice http://ooo-updates.apache.org/index.html
>> will work in all cases (so this not a network issue but rather an SSL 
>> issue).
>> 
>> Now, debugging SSL issues is not easy, but can the people who don't get 
>> updates at least confirm the three results above, i.e., that only the 
>> first one fails?
> 
> Confirmed that only the first one fails.
> I always get the message (even when it didn't fail to open the page) 
> 
> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
> 
> ** (soffice:10458): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>  
>> Further tests show that problematic systems have issues with ASF sites 
>> in HTTPS, like:
>> $ soffice https://www.apache.org/ # Fails
>> $ soffice http://www.apache.org/  # Succeeds
>> $ soffice https://www.openoffice.org/ # Fails
>> $ soffice http://www.openoffice.org/  # Succeeds
>> $ soffice https://... # Succeeds for any site I put there, except ASF 
>> sites, but I'd love to see a non-ASF example of a failing HTTPS site.
> 
> Confirmed. HTTPS links fail, HTTP succeed

The HTTPS links all work for me with the FreeBSD port of 4.1.6.  One
difference is that the FreeBSD port uses the system OpenSSL, currently
1.02p or newer.

Does the Apache web server still support TLS version 1.0?  The old
version of OpenSSL that we bundle with the Windows and Linux versions
doesn't support anything newer than that.


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Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.6 released

2018-11-18 Thread Marcus

Hello OpenOffice community,

today we want to share with you the announcement from below.

Thank You

to all who have helped, tested, hacked, discussed or were otherwise 
involved and have invested many hours of their spare time.


Marcus
(on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)



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18 November 2018 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office 
document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.6, 
now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


Apache OpenOffice 4.1.6 is a maintenance release aimed at correcting 
some regressions and delivering the latest English dictionary. All users 
of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 or earlier are advised to upgrade.


The main changes include:
* Bug fixes
* Updates for the English language dictionaries

For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-416changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-416announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.6 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-416releasenotes

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.6 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Follow Apache OpenOffice:
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Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Branko Čibej
On 18.11.2018 18:41, Branko Čibej wrote:
> On 18.11.2018 17:19, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Pedro Lino wrote:
>>> However the AOO site does not specify any charset. Could that be the
>>> problem?
>> I don't think the charset is a major issue, but indeed (if I do the
>> same test with openssl) there is something interesting that can
>> probably be submitted to Infra for investigation.
>>
>> On any system I've tried with (CentOS, Ubuntu, Fedora)
>>
>> $ openssl s_client -state -nbio -connect ooo-updates.apache.org:443
>>
>> will show (in a lengthy output that I don't have the time to debug
>> now) that it is using this certificate:
>>
>> 0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/OU=EssentialSSL
>> Wildcard/CN=*.openoffice.org
>>
>> Note that I requested apache.org and I get a certificate valid for
>> *.openoffice.org.
> The subject alternative names (which are the real identities that should
> match, not the common name) are '*.openoffice.org' and 'openoffice.org'.
>
> And you're right ... the certificate is wrong ... but making the same
> request with cURL will give the right certificate. Most likely that's
> because s_client doesn't send the Server Name Indication that would let
> HTTPd select the correct virtual host, so it'll select the "first" one.
>
>
>> The same holds if I use just apache.org or openoffice.org
> And this tends to prove the above assumption.

And so does this:

$ openssl s_client -state -nbio -servername ooo-updates.apache.org
-connect ooo-updates.apache.org:443

Note the additional -servename option.

-- Brane


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Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Branko Čibej
On 18.11.2018 17:19, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Pedro Lino wrote:
>> However the AOO site does not specify any charset. Could that be the
>> problem?
>
> I don't think the charset is a major issue, but indeed (if I do the
> same test with openssl) there is something interesting that can
> probably be submitted to Infra for investigation.
>
> On any system I've tried with (CentOS, Ubuntu, Fedora)
>
> $ openssl s_client -state -nbio -connect ooo-updates.apache.org:443
>
> will show (in a lengthy output that I don't have the time to debug
> now) that it is using this certificate:
>
> 0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/OU=EssentialSSL
> Wildcard/CN=*.openoffice.org
>
> Note that I requested apache.org and I get a certificate valid for
> *.openoffice.org.

The subject alternative names (which are the real identities that should
match, not the common name) are '*.openoffice.org' and 'openoffice.org'.

And you're right ... the certificate is wrong ... but making the same
request with cURL will give the right certificate. Most likely that's
because s_client doesn't send the Server Name Indication that would let
HTTPd select the correct virtual host, so it'll select the "first" one.


> The same holds if I use just apache.org or openoffice.org

And this tends to prove the above assumption.

> This mismatch itself doesn't explain much since the connection still
> works, but it probably gives a hint for asking Infra why this happens.
>
> The output I get is very different depending on the system I use (I
> get dozens of errors on some systems, a cleaner output in Ubuntu) but
> in all cases openssl manages to connect in the end.

I think it's best to gather all the info in this thread and create an
Infra ticket.

-- Brane



Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Pedro Lino wrote:

However the AOO site does not specify any charset. Could that be the problem?


I don't think the charset is a major issue, but indeed (if I do the same 
test with openssl) there is something interesting that can probably be 
submitted to Infra for investigation.


On any system I've tried with (CentOS, Ubuntu, Fedora)

$ openssl s_client -state -nbio -connect ooo-updates.apache.org:443

will show (in a lengthy output that I don't have the time to debug now) 
that it is using this certificate:


0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/OU=EssentialSSL 
Wildcard/CN=*.openoffice.org


Note that I requested apache.org and I get a certificate valid for 
*.openoffice.org. The same holds if I use just apache.org or openoffice.org


This mismatch itself doesn't explain much since the connection still 
works, but it probably gives a hint for asking Infra why this happens.


The output I get is very different depending on the system I use (I get 
dozens of errors on some systems, a cleaner output in Ubuntu) but in all 
cases openssl manages to connect in the end.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Pedro Lino
> On November 18, 2018 at 2:48 PM Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> > For debugging, I suggest using cURL instead of OO, for example:
> >      curl -sviI https://www.openoffice.org/
> 
> Thanks, if the issue is with SSL this indeed helps in finding more 
> details. Still, curl will always work also on affected systems, so if it 
> is SSL-related it won't be enough to check whether the site uses a 
> wildcard SSL certificate... Maybe some more technical certificate details?

I compared the output from the sites that do work

curl -sviI https://fosdem.org/2019/
curl -sviI https://www.google.com/

fosdem specifies
< Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
google specifies
< Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

However the AOO site does not specify any charset. Could that be the problem?

On funny note, the issuer of the Google certificate is
*issuer: C=US,O=Google Trust Services,CN=Google Internet Authority G3

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: using open office

2018-11-18 Thread Sajan Ganger
 thank you very much for your help

On Sunday, 18 November 2018, 14:36:19 GMT, Marcus  
wrote:  
 
 Am 18.11.18 um 01:46 schrieb Sajan Ganger:
> Hello, I would like to use OpenOffice to write a book and publish it on 
> amazon, do I have to pay any fees or royalties to yourselves?
> Do I need a licence?  Thank you very muchI look forward to hearing from you

OpenOffice is built under the license of Apache [1] which is often used 
for open source software.

There is no fee, no royalty, no license, no registration that have to 
give us.

You can copy OpenOffice as often as you want to different PCs.

And finally you can copy, upload or sell any documents that you have 
created with OpenOffice.

[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

HTH

Marcus

  

Re: Check for Updates broken?

2018-11-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Branko Čibej wrote:

Note that all the sites that fail in your list have wildcard
certificates — CN=*.apache.org for the Apache sites and
CN=*.openoffice.org for the OO sites. This may be related to wildcard
cert support


Interesting find, and I was hopeful this could be the solution. But if 
try with fosdem.org (that has a wildcard certificate too) it works even 
on the Ubuntu system (i.e., the one where I cannot get the updates):


$ soffice https://fosdem.org/2019/ # Works, HTTPS with wildcard


in OpenSSL/LibreSSL/GnuTLS/whateveryou'reusing on the
affected systems. Correlating this with the SSL library name and version
would be useful.


But, as reported by Pedro in the first test,

$ curl https://ooo-updates.apache.org/index.html

works well, while

$ soffice https://ooo-updates.apache.org/index.html

so it's unclear to what extent system libraries are involved. I've 
tried, with no success, to install more libraries


$ sudo apt-get install libssl1.0-dev

(see here for context:
https://github.com/wkhtmltopdf/wkhtmltopdf/issues/2938#issuecomment-334784936 
)


but the Ubuntu system still refused to open the update URL.


For debugging, I suggest using cURL instead of OO, for example:
     curl -sviI https://www.openoffice.org/


Thanks, if the issue is with SSL this indeed helps in finding more 
details. Still, curl will always work also on affected systems, so if it 
is SSL-related it won't be enough to check whether the site uses a 
wildcard SSL certificate... Maybe some more technical certificate details?


I'm now trying to check the OpenOffice code to see whether we can get 
some more meaningful output instead of the empty details string we 
currently print. For those interested, the error message is assembled in 
main/uui/source/iahndl.cxx


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: using open office

2018-11-18 Thread Marcus

Am 18.11.18 um 01:46 schrieb Sajan Ganger:

Hello, I would like to use OpenOffice to write a book and publish it on amazon, 
do I have to pay any fees or royalties to yourselves?
Do I need a licence?  Thank you very muchI look forward to hearing from you


OpenOffice is built under the license of Apache [1] which is often used 
for open source software.


There is no fee, no royalty, no license, no registration that have to 
give us.


You can copy OpenOffice as often as you want to different PCs.

And finally you can copy, upload or sell any documents that you have 
created with OpenOffice.


[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

HTH

Marcus


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Re: German language link in EN page for install instructions

2018-11-18 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi David,

Am 18.11.18 um 08:26 schrieb David Robley:
> The AOO installation page
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#apple has
> a link about Gatekeeper on OSX which links to a German language Apple
> support page.
>
> Can this link please be changed to point to the English language
> version, currently at https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491

Fixed now!

Thank you for your hint...

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>
> Cheers



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