date:20201028

On 28 Oct, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 27 Oct, Don Lewis wrote:
>> On 27 Oct, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> Maybe... but it DID WORK before. That is, before the mega patch,
>>> configure did the "right thing". So if something is causing configure
>>> to make a different decision, it is due to the interaction w/ the new
>>> stuff that the RDF stuff does. The problem is with the patch or how it
>>> is working...
>> 
>> I'm thinking of any configure scripts used by raptor / rasqal / redland,
>> which would have changed by the upgrade.
> 
> I took a look at the configure outputs for those three.  I did see some
> significant differences for redland.  In particular, on CentOS 5,
> redland was picking up a system version of curl.  I think I installed a
> newer version of curl, liked with a modern verson of openssl so a newer
> version of git would work with github.  Thinking that librdf might have
> been linked to the system libcurl, I uninstalled curl on the CentOS5 box
> and did a another rebuild.  I still saw breakage when I installed the
> packages on Ubuntu 16.
> 
> Digging in some more, I ran ldd on the librdf.so that we build and
> discovered that libgcrypt was not being found.  On CentOS 5, libgcrypt
> is version 11.5.2 and on Ubuntu 16 it is 20.0.5.  That's a problem.  I
> wonder if redland actually needs libgcrypt for our purposes.

libraptor2 wants to link to the system icu libraries.  I haven't quite
figured out why raptor2 wants to use icu and the older raptor library
does not seem to need it.


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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))


Hi Jim,

On 10/28/20 2:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Thanks... in the meantime, please test the '-jj1' builds available.


General Errors on opening using Ubuntu 18.04 VM.

Best regards,
Carl




On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:

Hi Jim

Find attached an odt and an ods that I just confirmed that cause the error 
messages with test12

Regards,
Pedro

(the attachments will not be available to the mailing list)




On 10/28/2020 3:02 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:


Can someone send me a file or 2 that is known to cause the error? TIA


On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Pedro Lino  wrote:

Hi Jim

Top posting.
The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical still 
supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing that version.
If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you installed 
20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have probably already 
switched to.

Regards,
Pedro


On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:


Hi Jim,

On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

I have some Ubuntu VMs that I can use to try to test... can someone share which 
one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is there any particular 
file(s) I should use to test?
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I've been testing on an 18.04 VM.
It was throwing errors opening any previously saved ods or odt file for
me even one saved with the one I was testing.

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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

On 27 Oct, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 27 Oct, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> Maybe... but it DID WORK before. That is, before the mega patch,
>> configure did the "right thing". So if something is causing configure
>> to make a different decision, it is due to the interaction w/ the new
>> stuff that the RDF stuff does. The problem is with the patch or how it
>> is working...
> 
> I'm thinking of any configure scripts used by raptor / rasqal / redland,
> which would have changed by the upgrade.

I took a look at the configure outputs for those three.  I did see some
significant differences for redland.  In particular, on CentOS 5,
redland was picking up a system version of curl.  I think I installed a
newer version of curl, liked with a modern verson of openssl so a newer
version of git would work with github.  Thinking that librdf might have
been linked to the system libcurl, I uninstalled curl on the CentOS5 box
and did a another rebuild.  I still saw breakage when I installed the
packages on Ubuntu 16.

Digging in some more, I ran ldd on the librdf.so that we build and
discovered that libgcrypt was not being found.  On CentOS 5, libgcrypt
is version 11.5.2 and on Ubuntu 16 it is 20.0.5.  That's a problem.  I
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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

2020-10-28 Thread Pedro Lino

Top posting:
Confirmed under Ubuntu 18.04.5 x64

> On 10/28/2020 8:10 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Jim,
> 
> "General Error" when opening files on Ubuntu 16.04.
> 
> Am 28.10.20 um 19:08 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Thanks... in the meantime, please test the '-jj1' builds available.
> >
> >> On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim
> >>
> >> Find attached an odt and an ods that I just confirmed that cause the error 
> >> messages with test12
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Pedro
> >>
> >> (the attachments will not be available to the mailing list)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 10/28/2020 3:02 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Can someone send me a file or 2 that is known to cause the error? TIA
> >>>
>  On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Pedro Lino  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Jim
> 
>  Top posting.
>  The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical 
>  still supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing 
>  that version.
>  If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you 
>  installed 20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have 
>  probably already switched to.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Pedro
> 
> > On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >> I have some Ubuntu VMs that I can use to try to test... can someone 
> >> share which one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is 
> >> there any particular file(s) I should use to test?
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> > me even one saved with the one I was testing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Carl
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Re: QA Automated Test coverage

2020-10-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Peter Kovacs wrote:

Maybe the following link helps?
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/index.html


Indeed, this section
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/ManualTesting/
seems to contain at least some of the recent (2012) testcases. So one 
could use this as a basis if we want to restart manual tests.


Just for clarity, the subject refers to "automated" tests but I was 
replying to the items concerning manual tests. On the other hand, 
automated tests are definitely important; I'm just not familiar at all 
with automated tests in OpenOffice.


Regards,
  Andrea Pescetti.


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Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

2020-10-28 Thread Delio Orozco Gonzalez

Test with AOO_4.1.8_testjj1

In Debian 10: error messages at saving first time and when I open a odt 
document :-(

Regards,

Delio.

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De: "Delio Orozco Gonzalez" 
Para: "dev" 
Enviados: Martes, 27 de Octubre 2020 20:07:40
Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

Hi, 

Confirmed: «AOO_4.1.8_test15» in Debian 9, 64 bits, don't show error messages.

Regards,

Delio.

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De: "Delio Orozco Gonzalez" 
Para: "dev" 
Enviados: Martes, 27 de Octubre 2020 17:08:07
Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

Hello everyone:

AOO_4.1.8_test15 in Debian 10 (64 bits) don't show error messages. I suposse 
that in Debian 9 neither. I confirm more later.

Regards,

Delio.

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De: "Delio Orozco Gonzalez" 
Para: "dev" 
Enviados: Lunes, 26 de Octubre 2020 19:06:58
Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

Hello Mathias:

Test for AOO_4.1.8_test13 in Debian 9

CPU: Intel 2 Duo E8400 (2) @ 2.9GHz
OS: Debian GNU/Linux 9.13 (stretch) x86_64
DE: IceWM and Budgie

1.-At saving a odt document first time, AOO_4.1.8_test13 show an error messages 
 
2.-When I open and odt document, even the same one that I just created, 
AOO_4.8.1 show an error messages.

However AOO don't show error messages when save or open a document in format 
.doc :-)

Regards best,

Delio.

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De: "Delio Orozco Gonzalez" 
Para: "dev" 
Enviados: Lunes, 26 de Octubre 2020 17:44:45
Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

Test with AOO_4.1.8_test13

PC: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 (4) @ 2.669GHz 
OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64
Kernel: 4.19.0-10-amd64
DE: IceWm and Budgie

1.-At saving a odt document first time, AOO_4.1.8_test13 show an error messages 
 
2.-When I open and odt document, even the same one that I just created, 
AOO_4.8.1 show an error messages. 

More later I will test with Debian 9.

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De: "Delio Orozco Gonzalez" 
Para: "dev" 
Enviados: Lunes, 26 de Octubre 2020 14:00:36
Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

Hello everyone:

AOO_4.1.8_test8 don't show error messages in Debian 9 and Debian 10; 
nevertheless, AOO_4.1.8_test12 show error at time to save or open an odt 
document. 

Regards,

Delio.

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De: "Matthias Seidel" 
Para: "dev" 
Enviados: Domingo, 25 de Octubre 2020 17:15:13
Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2

Hi,

Am 25.10.20 um 22:06 schrieb Delio Orozco Gonzalez:
> Hello Mathias:
>
> Would put a modern set icons, similar to LibreOffice, descendat of AOO; for 
> example: Sukapura or Colibre, it's possible?

If the license is compatible and you find someone to do the work? ;-)

For me it is not high on the priority list.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
>
> Delio.
>
> - Mensaje original -
> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> Para: "dev" 
> Enviados: Domingo, 25 de Octubre 2020 8:18:57
> Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2
>
> Hi Delio,
>
> Am 25.10.20 um 03:06 schrieb Delio Orozco Gonzalez:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Mathias:
>>
>> I visited https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124841
>>
>> I refer to that problem. There is any way to resolve it?
> We are all volunteers working in our spare time.
> Unfortunately the two people discussing that issue left the project
> longer ago.
>
> So it would need a developer working on this. Of course help is always
> welcome!
>
>> A software is good if make good that say to make. However,  the appearance 
>> is not inert, could the developers put a new set of icons in AOO_4.1.8?  
> Development for 4.1.8 is already closed. But of course it could go into
> "trunk" or "AOO42X".
> A new icon set would need a graphic designer (or similar). And those
> icons must be compatible with our license.
>
> What kind of icons did you think of?
>
>>  
>>
>> I'm an final user, not developer :-( 
> Don't worry, I am also no developer. But there are many parts where
> individuals can help.
>
> That said, your testing is highly appreciated!
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Delio.
>>
>> - Mensaje original -
>> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
>> Para: "dev" 
>> Enviados: Sábado, 24 de Octubre 2020 16:06:50
>> Asunto: Re: Test to Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US-v2
>>
>> Hi Delio,
>>
>> Am 24.10.20 um 19:28 schrieb Delio Orozco Gonzalez:
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> From test3, on Debian 9 and Debian 10, I was able to save and open an odt 
>>> file without error message. The desktop environments are IceWM and Budgie.
>>>
>>> Here are two links to compare the loss of quality in AOO when an image is 
>>> reduced using the mouse. Links were shared with dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>> Image scale by mouse on AOO_4.1.8_test6
>>>
>>>

Re: building from a source tarball

2020-10-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Don Lewis wrote:

On 28 Oct, Jim Jagielski wrote:

In particular, this is when building from the "official" SRC_RELEASE
tarball we provide. Is the inc/reporevision.lst file not included?


It is in one of the RCs that I looked at.


I don't have full information, but as I was the one who reported the 
issue...


I concluded that (on my CentOS 7 VM at least, but possibly in general) 
the NotGit variable was always set to false for some reason. In short, 
the script was always believing it was operating in a Git checkout. This 
was happening both with and without git installed.


As I wrote, this is the possibly problematic line:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/AOO418/main/solenv/bin/modules/RepoRevision.pm#L78

but I didn't have time to debug it further.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

2020-10-28 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Jim,

"General Error" when opening files on Ubuntu 16.04.

Am 28.10.20 um 19:08 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Thanks... in the meantime, please test the '-jj1' builds available.
>
>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Find attached an odt and an ods that I just confirmed that cause the error 
>> messages with test12
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
>>
>> (the attachments will not be available to the mailing list)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10/28/2020 3:02 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone send me a file or 2 that is known to cause the error? TIA
>>>
 On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Pedro Lino  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim

 Top posting.
 The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical still 
 supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing that 
 version.
 If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you installed 
 20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have probably 
 already switched to.

 Regards,
 Pedro

> On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> I have some Ubuntu VMs that I can use to try to test... can someone 
>> share which one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is there 
>> any particular file(s) I should use to test?
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> It was throwing errors opening any previously saved ods or odt file for 
> me even one saved with the one I was testing.
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
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Re: OpenOffice.org migration status

2020-10-28 Thread Dave Fisher

Breadcrumbs are completed.

Templates are refactored to be:

(1) brand.gsp to render the branding and search top part of pages.
Input is metadata in an md file.
type=brand
search=search
selectedlang=en
language=Language
name=Apache OpenOffice
tagline=The Free and Open Productivity Suite
logo=AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
domain=https://www.openoffice.org
divid=bannera
announce=Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7 released
announceurl=https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-13
announcetip=Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7 released
~~

(2) navigator.gsp to render topnav, leftnav, and rightnav
Input is a list of markdown lists and the css div class as metadata/
type=navigator
divid=topnava
~~

- [Product][m0]
- [Download][m1]
- [Support][m2]
- [Blog][m3]
- [Extend][m4]
- [Develop][m5]
- [Focus Areas][m6]
- [Native Language][m7]

[m0]: /product/index.html   "Apache 
OpenOffice product description"
[m1]: /download/index.html  
"Download OpenOffice"
[m2]: /support/index.html   "Find 
Support for OpenOffice"
[m3]: https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/ "Apache 
OpenOffice Blog"
[m4]: /extensions/index.html
"Extensions and Templates for OpenOffice"
[m5]: https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html   "Get 
involved in Apache OpenOffice"
[m6]: /projects/accepted.html   "Apache 
OpenOffice development focus areas"
[m7]: /projects/native-lang.html"Apache 
OpenOffice in your Native Language"

(3) page.gsp to render both markdown and html pages
- html_extract.gsp is used to extract head, bodytag and body content 
from html
- breadcrumbs.gsp is used to create the breadcrumbs and a list of each 
directory on the page path.
- ssi_pages.gsp will keep a json of brand and navigator overrides per 
directory.

title=Apache OpenOffice - Privacy
notice=http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
~~

Information about your use of this website is collected using server access
logs and a tracking cookie. The collected information consists of the
following:

1. The IP address from which you access the website;
1. The type of browser and operating system you use to access our site;
1. The date and time you access our site;
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The json will be like so:
{
"/": {
"brand":"/brand.html",
"topnav":"/topnav.html",
}
"/sl/": {
"brand":"/sl/brand.html",
"topnav":"/sl/topnav.html"
}
"/sk/": {
"brand":"/sk/brand.html",
"topnav":"/sk/topnav.html"
}
"/kab/": {
"brand":"/kab/brand.html",
"topnav":"/kab/topnav.html"
}
"/pl/why/": {
"leftnav":"/pl/why/leftnav.html"
}
"/pl/product/": {
"leftnav":"/pl/product/leftnav.html"
}
"/pl/": {
"brand":"/pl/brand.html",
"topnav":"/pl/topnav.html"
}
"/l10n/": {
"topnav":"/l10n/topnav.html",
"leftnav":"/l10n/leftnav.html",
"rightnav":"/l10n/rightnav.html"
}

The migration script will only need to modify markdown files. Everything else 
will be copied as is.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 28, 2020, at 3:29 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On 10/27/20 11:32 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> The new repository is https://GitHub.com/Apache/OpenOffice-org
>> 
>> The next steps are to finish the templates.
>> 
>> (Wednesday)
>> (1) Breadcrumbs
>> (2) Branding/Navigation adjustments per directory
>> 
>> (Thursday)
>> (3) Staging / Test server with Infra help
>> 
>> (Friday)
>> (4) Directory migration script
>> (5) Release for testing
>> 
>> Everyone can test at (5)
>> 
> That's Great !
> 
> Thanks for the hard work and the update!
> 
> Best regards,
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Re: building from a source tarball

On 28 Oct, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> In particular, this is when building from the "official" SRC_RELEASE
> tarball we provide. Is the inc/reporevision.lst file not included?

It is in one of the RCs that I looked at.


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Re: building from a source tarball

In particular, this is when building from the "official" SRC_RELEASE tarball we 
provide. Is the inc/reporevision.lst file not included?

> On Oct 28, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> I cannot recreate this...
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Don Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> On 28 Oct, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Don,
>>> 
>>> This should be working since last year?
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/0c6d6194a959cb1b87417e9077dc1d8ece630b11
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>> Item #2 here:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r228db9ac55fc89c7286943f31cfd862d944c45264cdd6f662dc2a8f9%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 28.10.20 um 18:33 schrieb Don Lewis:
 Something that we are still missing for AOO418 is a  fix for getting the
 revision info when building from a source tarball instead of a git
 checkout.  Someone mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
 
 
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Re: building from a source tarball

I cannot recreate this...

> On Oct 28, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Don Lewis  wrote:
> 
> On 28 Oct, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> This should be working since last year?
>> 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/0c6d6194a959cb1b87417e9077dc1d8ece630b11
>>  
>> 
> 
> Item #2 here:
>  
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r228db9ac55fc89c7286943f31cfd862d944c45264cdd6f662dc2a8f9%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>  
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>> Am 28.10.20 um 18:33 schrieb Don Lewis:
>>> Something that we are still missing for AOO418 is a  fix for getting the
>>> revision info when building from a source tarball instead of a git
>>> checkout.  Someone mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
>>> 
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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

Thanks... in the meantime, please test the '-jj1' builds available.

> On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim
> 
> Find attached an odt and an ods that I just confirmed that cause the error 
> messages with test12
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
> (the attachments will not be available to the mailing list)
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/28/2020 3:02 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Can someone send me a file or 2 that is known to cause the error? TIA
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim
>>> 
>>> Top posting.
>>> The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical still 
>>> supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing that 
>>> version.
>>> If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you installed 
>>> 20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have probably 
>>> already switched to.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Pedro
>>> 
 On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:
 
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I have some Ubuntu VMs that I can use to try to test... can someone share 
> which one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is there any 
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 I've been testing on an 18.04 VM.
 It was throwing errors opening any previously saved ods or odt file for 
 me even one saved with the one I was testing.
 
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Re: building from a source tarball

2020-10-28 Thread Matthias Seidel

Yes, I know, but that was not confirmed by anyone.

I would have thought that it was tested in more than a year?

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 28.10.20 um 19:06 schrieb Don Lewis:
> On 28 Oct, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>>
>> This should be working since last year?
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/0c6d6194a959cb1b87417e9077dc1d8ece630b11
> Item #2 here:
>   
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r228db9ac55fc89c7286943f31cfd862d944c45264cdd6f662dc2a8f9%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>> Am 28.10.20 um 18:33 schrieb Don Lewis:
>>> Something that we are still missing for AOO418 is a  fix for getting the
>>> revision info when building from a source tarball instead of a git
>>> checkout.  Someone mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
>>>
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Re: building from a source tarball

On 28 Oct, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Don,
> 
> This should be working since last year?
> 
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/0c6d6194a959cb1b87417e9077dc1d8ece630b11

Item #2 here:
  
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r228db9ac55fc89c7286943f31cfd862d944c45264cdd6f662dc2a8f9%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E

> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> Am 28.10.20 um 18:33 schrieb Don Lewis:
>> Something that we are still missing for AOO418 is a  fix for getting the
>> revision info when building from a source tarball instead of a git
>> checkout.  Someone mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
>>
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Re: building from a source tarball

2020-10-28 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Don,

This should be working since last year?

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/0c6d6194a959cb1b87417e9077dc1d8ece630b11

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 28.10.20 um 18:33 schrieb Don Lewis:
> Something that we are still missing for AOO418 is a  fix for getting the
> revision info when building from a source tarball instead of a git
> checkout.  Someone mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
>
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building from a source tarball

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revision info when building from a source tarball instead of a git
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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

2020-10-28 Thread Pedro Lino

Hi Jim

Find attached an odt and an ods that I just confirmed that cause the error 
messages with test12

Regards,
Pedro

(the attachments will not be available to the mailing list)



> On 10/28/2020 3:02 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
>  
> Can someone send me a file or 2 that is known to cause the error? TIA
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Pedro Lino  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Jim
> > 
> > Top posting.
> > The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical still 
> > supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing that 
> > version.
> > If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you installed 
> > 20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have probably 
> > already switched to.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Pedro
> > 
> >> On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Jim,
> >> 
> >> On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>> I have some Ubuntu VMs that I can use to try to test... can someone share 
> >>> which one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is there any 
> >>> particular file(s) I should use to test?
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> >> I've been testing on an 18.04 VM.
> >> It was throwing errors opening any previously saved ods or odt file for 
> >> me even one saved with the one I was testing.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Carl
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Two_words.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text


simple_sum.ods
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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

Can someone send me a file or 2 that is known to cause the error? TIA

> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim
> 
> Top posting.
> The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical still 
> supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing that 
> version.
> If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you installed 
> 20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have probably 
> already switched to.
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
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>>> which one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is there any 
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>> me even one saved with the one I was testing.
>> 
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Re: Sidebar extension

2020-10-28 Thread Bidouille

Hello,
Extensions are not part of OpenOffice core.
If you develop it, the best way is to go on forum for help:
https://forum.openoffice.org
You can find some resource on wiki too:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar_for_Developers



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> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 28 Octobre 2020 05:54:19
> Objet: Sidebar extension
> 
> Hello
> I am using java to builld sidebar extension
> I have successfully creat my panel
> And now I am trying to add item list and a drop down list in to the
> panel
> but I have no idea how to do it
> So please if you can help me out wher to start or give me a sample
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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))

2020-10-28 Thread Pedro Lino

Hi Jim

Top posting.
The most commonly used Ubuntu version should be 18.04 (but Canonical still 
supports as far back as 14.04) but many of us are already testing that version.
If this is just a test VM, I would say it could be useful if you installed 
20.04.1 LTS which none of us is using but early adopters have probably already 
switched to.

Regards,
Pedro

> On 10/28/2020 11:26 AM Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Jim,
> 
> On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
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> > which one is the more-than-likely one to show the bug and is there any 
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> me even one saved with the one I was testing.
> 
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Re: Google Analytics and Download Count

2020-10-28 Thread Peter Kovacs




Am 28.10.20 um 00:32 schrieb Dave Fisher:

What git migration?


Exactly. I did only switch, without taking everyone along.



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Am 27.10.20 um 23:22 schrieb Dave Fisher:
Hi -

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 27, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

Dave Fisher wrote:

I will be doing the initial migration as quickly as I can. I think that metrics 
needs a specific discussion.
Initially I’ll comment this out.

Do I understand well that there is no technical reason whatsoever to get rid of 
Google Analytics, and that the discussion is purely political?

Not really political in that there are now digital privacy rights in some 
jurisdictions.

Currently, it is strongly recommend by the Operations of ASF. The Board has 
created the VP, Digital Privacy. Unfortunately we are the third one since 2019. 
We can ask there.

Please elaborate on that point. I have made sure we are in line with all GDPR 
Rules I am aware. This has been always a special care.

This is fine, but in this case the logical approach would be the opposite: we 
keep Google Analytics initially, then if someone wants to start a discussion 
(which is obviously political in this case) to remove it and this reaches 
consensus, we remove Google Analytics.

That said, I surely don't want to slow down the website migration work: it is 
much, much better to have a working migration without GA (and then one can 
easily add GA back and restart this discussion) than spend a month in assessing 
whether we need GA and block the migration for this.

I’m taking it out, but it is rather trivial to put it back.

-1, If it is trivial to put them in, then it is easy to take them out later 
too. here is no need to rush. Especially when we want to try a clean migration. 
The git migration I started has been not well done. And it would be nice if you 
give some time to drive this topic. If it is easy to put it back it is easy to 
take it out later. Why the sudden activity rush?

Logs are available from Infra on a sliding 30 day window. If we activate the 
Apache Mirrors they include downloads.

Let us build first a process on top of this. Data. I will try to make some time 
for this next weekend. Please don't put any haste.

Regards,
Dave


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: test12 (Was: Re: test11 (Was: Re: test2 is ready to run))


Hi Jim,

On 10/28/20 7:20 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

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I've been testing on an 18.04 VM.
It was throwing errors opening any previously saved ods or odt file for 
me even one saved with the one I was testing.


Thanks,
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git bisect

I must say: I am pretty glad we made the switch to git; the speed at which I 
was able to switch to various hashes, the usefulness of 'bisect' (which is 
built in) and the seamlessness of being able to work on checkouts and then just 
trash my local updates, all made the testing process a lot smoother than it 
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Re: QA Automated Test coverage

Hi Damjan,

On 10/28/20 12:21 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 8:14 PM Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi All,

I've been testing builds with the automated BVT and FVT tests lately.
I have a few questions:

1. Is there anything documented about how much coverage these tests
provide vs.functionality?

2. Is there yet a place to list new cases it would good to add test for?

I think there is a lot that could be done in this area to attract new
contributors if we had a place to work from.
Both in documenting and work on some flaky tests that I've run into.

I'm willing to put some effort into this, both organizing and developing.

Hi Carl

Thank you for helping with the tests.

I wrote a good email summarizing the different tests we have some years
ago, please see
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/bb1851b82ba009d2cefdf5af9997099b6fdfb04bddac3753172f2698%401459253891%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
Some things changed since then, eg. the smoketest location moved. There are
a few other emails too, search for them.

I also did some test fixes to bvt/fvt and others at various times. This
year I learned quite a lot about them. For example many tests fail because
they expect features that the .DOC file format cannot provide (such as
strikeout styles unique to .ODT), there were timeouts, registry
modifications had to be enabled to fix a test, confirmation dialogs that
hang the tests, a 2048 byte limit in FreeBSD's "ps" was causing a pid
lookup to fail, java.util.Calendar was being used incorrectly, etc. I fixed
some of these, but others remain. Understanding why the .DOC tests fail
requires understanding the .DOC file format, so fixing those tests isn't
easy. Look through the Git log, I wrote pretty descriptive commit messages.

One thing I didn't mention in that email is the thousands of unused tests
we have in main/qadevOOo, but they seem difficult to set up, and use a
custom test framework, not JUnit. They have a complex architecture, with
some code implementing UNO components and some code testing them. There
might even be code missing for some of them. There's a mixture of Java and
StarBasic tests there, with much duplication - were they first written in
one language then semi-ported to another?

Anyway I can't help much at the moment, but good luck and let us know how
it goes.

Damjan

Thanks for the great information and the email link.

I saw some of commits on some of the flaky tests where you added a sleep
before checking the results.
I think there are more of these but I was holding off thinking it would
be low hanging fruit for a new volunteer :)

But I'll take care if it if not.

I liked Patricia's suggestion of a page for this work. I'll try to find
if one was started and if not start one.

I'll look into testing the OOO_SUBSEQUENT_TESTS flag also.

It seems building the bvt/fvt tests using ant require an office to have
been built and use idlc and the uno jars from solver like:

test/smoketestdoc.build.xml imports main/ant.properties which includes
OUTDIR=/openoffice/main/solver/450/unxlngx6.pro
OUTDIR is used in the path to idlc and the build fails if I've cleaned
the office build.

I think it would be good if we could use idlc and uno jars from
whichever office is under test so you don't need a build environment
necessarily but I'm still looking at the implications of that.
Please let me know if you have an opinion on that since you've dug a lot
deeper.

Looking ahead I see new tools like testcontainers [1] you can use in
maven and gradle builds for spinning up and disposing of databases,
servers, and other things for integration tests.

This looks like fertile ground for some work :)

[1] https://www.testcontainers.org/

Thanks,
Carl

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Re: OpenOffice.org migration status