Re: Help.. Build error about missing processdeps.awk under Windows7

[Steve Yin]

Hi Hung,

The command "make clean" is for the folder "main" or module which is
changed to gbuild one. You can refer this wiki for more information.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

I think you cygwin version is OK.

Here is my configure parameters for your reference

autoconf
./configure \
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/apache-ant-1.8.4 \
--with-cl-home=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Visual\
Studio\ 9.0/VC \
--with-mspdb-path=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Visual\
Studio\ 9.0/Common7/IDE \
--with-psdk-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/MSSDK_v6.1 \
--with-directx-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/directx \
--with-nsis-path=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/NSIS \
--with-frame-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/MSSDK_v6.1 \
--with-midl-path=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/MSSDK_v6.1/Bin \
--with-csc-path=/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5 \
--with-asm-home=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Visual\
Studio\ 9.0/VC/Bin \
--with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Java/jdk1.7.0_25 \
--with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2 \
--with-epm-url=
http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
\
--without-junit --without-stlport --enable-verbose --enable-category-b
--enable-bundled-dictionaries --with-dict --disable-nss-module
./bootstrap
source ./winenv.set.sh
cd instsetoo_native/
build --all -P4



On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Hung Mark  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> How to run make clean under solenv?
> Do you mean build --prepare --from solenv ?
>
> I rebuild by  removing evrything not in original repository, except
> main/external & extra_source.
> But it still doesn't work.
>
> Is it related to cygwin ?
> I'm using 1.7.32
>
> or Make & autoconf ?
> Here are my versions:
> $ make -v
> GNU Make 4.0
> Built for i686-pc-cygwin
> Copyright (C) 1988-2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <
> http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
> >
> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> mh@Aoodev-Win7 ~/aoo/main
> $ autoconf -h
> Usage: /usr/bin/autoconf-2.69 [OPTION]... [TEMPLATE-FILE]
>
> Sincerely.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-09-01 10:51 GMT+08:00 Steve Yin :
>
> > I have never seen this problem before, but you can try to run "make
> clean"
> > under the folder "solenv" and rebuild it to check if the problem still
> > exists.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Hung Mark  wrote:
> >
> > > I'm bulding latest OpenOffice source code under Windows 7 (64-bit).
> > >
> > > It complaint about missing processdeps.awk in gtest module (complete
> > error
> > > message in the attached file):
> > >
> > > awk: fatal: can't open source file
> > > `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/mh/aoo/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk' for
> > > reading (No such file or directory)
> > >
> > > I found a similar post when searching the mailing list archive,   it
> said
> > > that the error message disappear after changing from source release to
> > > subversion repository. I tried, but building code with subversion repos
> > > does not solve the problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is how I configure it:
> > >
> > > export SourceMain=`pwd`
> > > export SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
> > > autoconf && \
> > > ./configure \
> > >  --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > >  --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > >  --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> > >  --disable-directx  \
> > >  --enable-dbgutil \
> > >  --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.4" \
> > >  --with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC \
> > >  --with-java-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_67/" \
> > >  --with-dmake-url="
> > > http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2";
> \
> > >  --with-epm-url="
> > > http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz"; \
> > >  --enable-pch \
> > >  --disable-atl \
> > >  --disable-activex \
> > >  --disable-binfilter \
> > >  --without-junit \
> > >  --with-lang="en-US zh-TW"
> > >
> > >
> > > When I check winenv.set.sh , there is still lots of environment
> variable
> > > begin with "C:\",
> > > I'm not sure if it is the cause of the problem. Could any one suggest
> how
> > > to build it properly? Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Hung
> > >
> > >
> > > -
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Hung
>



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Steve Yin

Re: Help.. Build error about missing processdeps.awk under Windows7

[Steve Yin]

I have never seen this problem before, but you can try to run "make clean"
under the folder "solenv" and rebuild it to check if the problem still
exists.


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Hung Mark  wrote:

> I'm bulding latest OpenOffice source code under Windows 7 (64-bit).
>
> It complaint about missing processdeps.awk in gtest module (complete error
> message in the attached file):
>
> awk: fatal: can't open source file
> `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/mh/aoo/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk' for
> reading (No such file or directory)
>
> I found a similar post when searching the mailing list archive,   it said
> that the error message disappear after changing from source release to
> subversion repository. I tried, but building code with subversion repos
> does not solve the problem
>
>
> Here is how I configure it:
>
> export SourceMain=`pwd`
> export SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
> autoconf && \
> ./configure \
>  --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>  --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>  --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>  --disable-directx  \
>  --enable-dbgutil \
>  --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.4" \
>  --with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC \
>  --with-java-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_67/" \
>  --with-dmake-url="
> http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"; \
>  --with-epm-url="
> http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz"; \
>  --enable-pch \
>  --disable-atl \
>  --disable-activex \
>  --disable-binfilter \
>  --without-junit \
>  --with-lang="en-US zh-TW"
>
>
> When I check winenv.set.sh , there is still lots of environment variable
> begin with "C:\",
> I'm not sure if it is the cause of the problem. Could any one suggest how
> to build it properly? Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Hung
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
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>



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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 (RC3)

[Steve Yin]

+1 No critical issue found on Windows and Mac.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jose R R  wrote:

> <
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
> >
>
> <
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz.asc
> >
>
> <
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz.sha256
> >
>
> -1 Sorry to disagree. I downloaded once more the relevant files:
> checksum and gpg --verify fail
>
> < https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvSRw_VCMAIezN2.png:large >
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
> >> (RC3) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1.
> >>
> >> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 is mainly a bugfix release with some important
> >> bugfixes. And we can provide again more complete UI translations and
> >> have now support for 41 languages. New languages for this release
> >> compared to 4.1.0 are Catalan, Catalan (Valencia AVL) and Catalan
> >> (Valencia RACV).
> >>
> >> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 is the continuation of high quality software
> >> releases.
> >>
> >> An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html
> >>
> >> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> >> releases for 41 languages) and further information how to verify and
> >> review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 can be found on the following wiki page:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> >>
> >> (alternative directly via
> >> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669)
> >>
> >> *.dmg files are still not recognized as binaries and have to be
> >> saved manually (save link as ...).
> >>
> >> The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1617669! And a
> >> fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_RAT_Scan.html
> >>
> >> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1
> >>
> >> The vote starts now and will be open until:
> >>
> >>Tuesday, 19 August: 2014-08-19 12:00am UTC+2.
> >>
> >> We invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> >> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> >> members.
> >>
> >>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1
> >>[ ]  0 Don't care
> >>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >>
> >> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> > +1  Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1
> >
> > Downloaded and tested Linux-32 binary. Verified all checksums for this
> > version.
> > Randomly verified checksums for other versions and languages.
> >
> > Rechecked all release blocker items that pertained to Linux or general as
> > fixed.
> >
> > Tested with test area documents and my own.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> -
> > MzK
> >
> > "For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing."
> >   -- Simon Wiesenthal
>
> Best Professional Regards.
>
> --
> Jose R R
> http://www.metztli-it.com
>
> -
> NEW Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0! Download for GNU/Linux, Mac OS, Windows.
>
> -
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>
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Re: [FEATURE][DISCUSS] The values of upper and lower spacing for default paragraph did the complete opposite

[Steve Yin]

Hi Juergen,

Sorry for the late reply.

I tested some cases and confirmed that the change does not affect existing
documents. The new default spacing value merely applies on new created
slides. Thanks.


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
wrote:

> On 13/06/14 11:43, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> > 2014-06-13 15:16 GMT+08:00 Steve Yin :
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The spacing size between lines is inconspicuous. But in some cases, it
> >> becomes a disturbing problem. This bug shows the problem:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125090. In the
> attachment, I
> >> put 2 screenshots to illustrate the issue.
> >>
> >> The patch is ready.
> >>
> >> Should we change it?
> >>
> >
> > +1 to change the default line space from bottom to top, which will make
> the
> > layout align more to the content logic.
> > Currently I spent a lot of time to change the default line space in my
> > presentations.
> >
> > While currently we are working on 4.1.1. I think this change should
> belong
> > to a big release, e.g. 4.2.
>
> yes definitely nothing for 4.1.1
>
> But I have a further question because changing default is always tricky.
> Have you tested to open existing documents with this new default. Do
> they still work and looking good or has the new default any impact on
> older documents? The question is often if such defaults are written to
> files or not.
>
> But in general the change sounds reasonable to me.
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> >
> > - Shenfeng (Simon)
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Steve Yin
> >>
> >
>
>
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>
>


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[FEATURE][DISCUSS] The values of upper and lower spacing for default paragraph did the complete opposite

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

The spacing size between lines is inconspicuous. But in some cases, it
becomes a disturbing problem. This bug shows the problem:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125090. In the attachment, I
put 2 screenshots to illustrate the issue.

The patch is ready.

Should we change it?

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Steve Yin

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

[Steve Yin]

+1. No critical issue has been found in RC4 until now.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
> (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
> 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
> iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
> forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
> Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
> and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
> deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
> And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
> support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
> 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
> success of OpenOffice.
>
> An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html
>
> The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701
>
> RC3:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
>
> RC2:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394
>
>
> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>
> (alternative directly via
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)
>
> *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
> saved manually (save link as ...).
>
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
> fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
>
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
>
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>
>Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.
>
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
>
>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
>[ ]  0 Don't care
>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
>
>
>
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>
>


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Re: Re:Re: Re: Display About OpenOffice

[Steve Yin]

Hi Osimeno,

I installed the AOO 4.1 RC3 Chinese version on my RHEL 6.5 (64bit English
version). But I cannot reproduce your problem. Because all UI strings use
Unicode for encoding, I think it should not be related to locale settings.
And if possible you can try to change it back to Chinese and see if the
issue can be solved.


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM, osimeno  wrote:

> hi,
>   Do you need some other infomation ? I had reintasll the software,but
> it can't resolve the problem.
>
>  Thank You!
> 在 2014-04-16 20:20:08，osimeno  写道：
>
>  Hi ：
>  I used chinese on redhat，but i had changed the language to
> english，the problem always be there。
>
>
>
>
>
> At 2014-04-16 14:16:53,"Yuzhen Fan"  wrote:
>
>  Dear osimeno,
>
> What's the locale in your Redhat?
>
> Steve, could you please have a look at this problem? Thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM, osimeno  wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Yuzhen Fan,Marcus:
>>
>>  Here is the pirture.The attachment.
>>  Thanks~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2014-04-15 03:39:04,"Marcus (OOo)"  wrote:
>> >Am 04/14/2014 12:26 PM, schrieb Yuzhen Fan:
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> Please send the picture you mentioned as attachment, I guess you just
>> >> pasted it as RTF in your original email which is not displayed.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:46 AM, osimeno  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks dear Marcus,
>> >>>   I send a picture on last mail,maybe you can't see
>> >>> that.The problem is there are some characters display like box,some
>> >>> characters display chinese very well.I want to show chinese all,but i 
>> >>> don't
>> >>> know how to do.
>> >
>> >I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with Chinese. Please send your question
>> >to the Users mailing list. I'm sure there are much more people with
>> >Chinese skills who can help you. See here:
>> >
>> >http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public
>>
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >Marcus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>> At 2014-04-12 03:16:45,"Marcus (OOo)"  wrote:
>> >>>> Am 04/11/2014 07:38 AM, schrieb osimeno:
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>> I had installed the openoffice 4,there are some problems maybe you can
>> >>>>> help me.
>> >>>>> My system is rhel6.3_X64 and use chinese .
>> >>>>> My first step : tar -xvf openoffice -C /usr/src/
>> >>>>> My second step : cd /usr/src/zh-CN/RPMS
>> >>>>> rpm - ivh openoffice-*
>> >>>>> My third step : cd desktop*
>> >>>>> rpm -ivh openoffice4.0-redhat*
>> >>>>> And i had reboot the system.
>> >>>>> the problem is that:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> so can you help me?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unfortunately, you don't have mentioned the actual problem or error
>> >>>> message. Nevertheless I would recommend you to use the users mailing
>> >>>> list for discussing problems:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>  Regards,
> Yu Zhen
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: ApacheCon Denver, genLang and buildsystem talk.

[Steve Yin]

What a prospect for AOO building system this opens!


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:40 AM, jan i  wrote:

> Hi
>
> For those interested, my presentations around AOO can be found at
> http://people.apache.org/~jani/genlang.pdf
> http://people.apache.org/~jani/buildSysAOO.pdf
>
> There is a chance that I will present an updated version November in
> Budapest (ApacheCon Europe).
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>



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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

[Steve Yin]

Same symptom. And the shortcut named "OpenOffice 4.0.1" is still on the
desktop. But these old version stuffs can be removed manually.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:

> Hi Pedro,
>
> Could you please report it in bugzilla and help to confirm if it has the
> same problem when install 4.0.1 over an existing 4.0.0? Thanks!
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > First of all I would like to say that I'm *really* happy that update
> > patches have arrived for the Windows OS. I was almost sure that I would
> > never see this in a StarOffice derivative. Kudos to the AOO developers!
> >
> > I have installed scenario 2 (- Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing
> > 4.0.1) with en_US and PT under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US.
> >
> > Overall everything seems to be working perfectly but there is a small
> > quirk: the Startup Group for 4.0.1 is not removed so you end up with two
> > startup groups with different names pointing at the same folder.
> >
> > In addition the OpenOffice logo shows on the 4.0.1 group but not on the
> > 4.1.0.
> >
> > I know these are small cosmetic problems but could be confusing for
> users.
> >
> > I can create a bugzilla report if necessary.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pedro
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Steve for your verification on installation of new package on
> > en_US.
> > >
> > > From testing perspective:
> > > 1. The repackage changes nothing on functions, so previous and ongoing
> > > tests are still valid and there is no need for retesting.
> > > 2. But we need to retest the installation for below two typical
> scenarios
> > > on all language packages
> > > - Clean install 4.1.0 with no existing versions(e.g. 4.0.1)
> > > - Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing 4.0.1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Steve Yin 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > No problem found.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> > jogischm...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > > > >> > On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > > > >> >> On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > > > >> >>> ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote
> > will
> > > > >> >>> continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
> > > > >> packages
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future
> > > > patches
> > > > >> >>> that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an
> > 4.3.
> > > > The
> > > > >> >>> whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have
> > > overseen a
> > > > >> >>> small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and
> > > have
> > > > to
> > > > >> >>> test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> That means also that the msp have to be used even more
> careful.
> > > They
> > > > >> >>> work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a
> > potential
> > > > 4.2
> > > > >> or
> > > > >> >>> 4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
> > > > >> installed
> > > > >> >> over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for
> now
> > > ;-)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further
> > confusion.
> > > > Stay
> > > > >> > tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ok, Windows full 

Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

[Steve Yin]

No problem found.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin  wrote:

> It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> > On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> >> On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> >>> ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote will
>> >>> continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
>> packages
>> >>>
>> >>> I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future patches
>> >>> that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an 4.3. The
>> >>> whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have overseen a
>> >>> small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and have to
>> >>> test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
>> >>>
>> >>> That means also that the msp have to be used even more careful. They
>> >>> work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a potential 4.2
>> or
>> >>> 4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
>> >>
>> >> The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
>> installed
>> >> over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for now ;-)
>> >
>> > I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further confusion. Stay
>> > tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.
>>
>> Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy testing
>> and voting and will be back on Monday.
>>
>> We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain the
>> same values as before.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Juergen
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Juergen
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Juergen
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1
>> release.
>> >>>> We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
>> >>>> further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a
>> first RC
>> >>>> based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of
>> time
>> >>>> in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
>> >>>> Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
>> >>>> ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
>> >>>> release relevant bits are the source release.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The RC builds can be found as always under
>> >>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>> >>>>
>> >>>> An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into
>> this
>> >>>> release can be found under
>> >>>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
>> >>>> I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
>> >>>> issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
>> >>>> should be verified by native speakers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A related RAT scan can be found under
>> >>>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages
>> we
>> >>>> have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private
>> use
>> >>>> only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the
>> first
>> >>>> time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test
>> the
>> >>>> functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
>> >>>> prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the
>> future
>> >>>> as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO
>> 4.0.1
>> >>>> (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
>> >>>> Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits
>> careful.
>> >>>> Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because
>> they
>> >>>> were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
>> >>>> account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
>> >>>> issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
>> >>>> those who are relevant for most of our users.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Juergen
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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>
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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

[Steve Yin]

It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>> ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote will
> >>> continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install packages
> >>>
> >>> I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future patches
> >>> that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an 4.3. The
> >>> whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have overseen a
> >>> small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and have to
> >>> test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
> >>>
> >>> That means also that the msp have to be used even more careful. They
> >>> work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a potential 4.2
> or
> >>> 4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
> >>
> >> The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be installed
> >> over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for now ;-)
> >
> > I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further confusion. Stay
> > tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.
>
> Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy testing
> and voting and will be back on Monday.
>
> We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain the
> same values as before.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Juergen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1
> release.
> >>>> We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
> >>>> further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first
> RC
> >>>> based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of
> time
> >>>> in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
> >>>> Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
> >>>> ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
> >>>> release relevant bits are the source release.
> >>>>
> >>>> The RC builds can be found as always under
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> >>>>
> >>>> An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into
> this
> >>>> release can be found under
> >>>>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
> >>>> I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
> >>>> issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
> >>>> should be verified by native speakers.
> >>>>
> >>>> A related RAT scan can be found under
> >>>>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
> >>>>
> >>>> I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages
> we
> >>>> have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
> >>>> only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
> >>>> time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test
> the
> >>>> functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
> >>>> prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the
> future
> >>>> as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
> >>>> (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
> >>>> Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
> >>>> Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because
> they
> >>>> were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
> >>>> account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
> >>>> issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
> >>>> those who are relevant for most of our users.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Juergen
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC)

[Steve Yin]

+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

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Re: volunteer

[Steve Yin]

Hi Tiago,

Welcome to AOO community!
Could you also subscribe the Localization Mailing
List<http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#localization-mailing-list-public>?
Thank you.


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Tiago Leichsenring wrote:

> Hi,
> my name is Tiago and I am Brazilian. I would like to work with you as a
> translator, I can translate into Portuguese and help you to create a
> grammar and spelling corrector.
>
> Best regards
>
> --
> Paz do Senhor
> Tiago Leichsenring
>



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Re: Comments on IAccessible2 Implementation with Screen Readers

[Steve Yin]

ewing a
> document
> > character by character, JAWS says "blank" instead of the actual character
> > under the cursor and I had to perform a screen refresh.
> >
> > Freedom Scientific's initial response was disappointing, indicating that
> > JAWS currently does not support OpenOffice and then I was told about
> their
> > support for Microsoft Office.  While I have nothing against screen
> readers
> > supporting Microsoft Office, many of my consumers can't easily afford
> > another expensive piece of software and they deserve a good, solid,
> robust
> > alternative.  I attempted to convey this in my reply and later spoke with
> > John Carson in their escalation department about this, who told me that
> he
> > would report it to the appropriate people in product development.  I
> don't
> > necessarily think that what I'm finding are OpenOffice bugs, which is
> why I
> > haven't filed any tickets as bug reports.  I just wanted to give those
> > interested on the list a report about my initial findings.
> > If there are specific things you'd like me to test or play with, please
> > let me know as I'd be happy and honored to assist.
> >
> > David Goldfield
> > http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
> >
> >
> >
> > *David Goldfield*
> > *Computer Technology Instructor*
> > *919 Walnut Street*
> > *4th Floor*
> > *Philadelphia, PA  19107*
> >
> > *215-627-0600 ext 3277 <215-627-0600%20ext%203277>*
> > *FAX:  215-922-0692 <215-922-0692>*
> >
> > *dgold...@asb.org* 
> > *www.asb.org* <http://www.asb.org>
> >
> >
> > Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired
> > population since 1874.
> >
> >  www.asb.org<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-Blind/234389409941928
> >
> > www.asb.org <http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
>
>
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta (RC)

[Steve Yin]

+1


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Sandhya Sivakumar wrote:

> +1
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  >wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
> > (RC) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta. The Beta release is intended to
> > reach more early adopters and to receive more valuable feedback to
> > improve potentially critical areas for the final release.
> >
> > Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
> > 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
> > iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
> > forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
> > Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
> > and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
> > deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
> > And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
> > support for 37 languages. New languages for this release compared to
> > 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
> >
> > Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
> > success of OpenOffice.
> >
> > An overview of release issues can be found under:
> >
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Beta_fixes.html
> >
> > The release candidate artifacts (1) (source release, as well as binary
> > releases for 37 languages) and further information how to verify and
> > review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta can be found on the following wiki
> > page:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> >
> > The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1573601! And a
> > fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
> >
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
> >
> > Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
> >
> > The vote starts now and will be open until:
> >
> >Sunday evening, 9 March: 2014-03-09 11:00pm UTC.
> >
> > But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> > to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> > members.
> >
> >[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
> >[ ]  0 Don't care
> >[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >
> >
> >
> > (1) the upload for the Linux 32 bit artifacts is still ongoing, but 64
> > bit is already available.
> >
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> >
> >
>



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Re: New committer: Clarence Guo (clarence_guo)

[Steve Yin]

Clarence is an experienced developer. He has ten years development
experience on Symphony and AOO. Now he is focusing on OOXML export.

Congratulations!


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
> Clarence Guo to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that
> he has accepted and taken the ID "clarence_guo".
>
> A warm welcome to Clarence!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC
>
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Welcome!

[Steve Yin]

Hi Andre,

Welcome to join accessibility testing of AOO!

AOO introduces IAccessible2 and will ship with its 4.1 Windows version.
Both JAWS and NVDA support IA2. And IA2 will be automatically enabled in
AOO.

Stuart already created a meta issue for tracking IA2 issues. The link is
here https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121767. You can create
new IA2 issues and add dependency on issue 121767.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us. Thanks.

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Call for testing on mail merge

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

I found I cannot connect to any smtp server with any correct settings. Does
anyone use mail merge successfully on the latest version? I'm not sure it
is a bug on this function. Let's start to test on it now.

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Re: Contribute code for OOXML export

[Steve Yin]

Great news!


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Clarence GUO wrote:

> Hi~ All,
> Since Office 2007 Microsoft has defaulted to saving files in OOXML format.
> And soon, in April, Microsoft will stop supporting Office 2003, the last
> version of Office to write the binary format by default. So it becomes more
> and more important for AOO to have capability to support OOXML file format
> in order to help these users who need to work with OOXML files. AOO already
> has some capabilities for OOXML file import, but it needs many
> improvements. We have some pilot code for enabling OOXML export, developed
> by De Bin, Jian Yuan, Sun Ying, Jin Long... Although it still has some ways
> to go before ready for production, we'd like to contribute it first to AOO
> for further development so that more developers can work on the framework
> and continuously contribute their works. Since it still has many feature
> gaps, we propose to put it on a branch firstly, and continue to enhance it,
> and integrate it into a release only when we see it ready.
>
> Clarence
>



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Re: Building on Windows 7

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jonas,

It seems like a privilege issue. Maybe it was caused by cygwin. I think you
can run cygwin as administrator again and try.


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:05 AM, jonasalfreds...@gmail.com <
jonasalfreds...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Running build a second time produce the following:
>
> jonasalfredsson@TOMMY-TUMULT
> /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/instsetoo_native
> $ build --all:jpeg
> build -- version: 275224
>
> =
> Building module jpeg
> =
>
> Entering /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/jpeg
>
> mkdir: cannot create directory `./wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/jpeg-8d/': File
> exists
> /usr/bin/bash: line 1:  9236 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) dmake
> dmake:  Error code 139, while making
> './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so_built_jpeg'
>
> 1 module(s): jpeg need(s) to be rebuilt
>
> Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/jpeg
>
> /Jonas
>
>
>
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Re: Interest in Volunteering With the OpenOffice Project

[Steve Yin]

Welcome Tyler!

For MSAA/IA2 bugs, please check the ia2 meta
issue<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121767>
 firstly, and please feel free to ask anything that you interested.



On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> Hi Tyler,
>
> that sounds good and welcome at Apache OpenOffice. This is a mailing
> list and if you are interested in more information you can subscribe to
> this list by sending an email to dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> (you are currently not subscribed).
>
> More interesting for you is potentially the q...@openoffice.apache.org
> mailing list where QA relevant topics are discussed and where is less
> traffic. But you are welcome on all list.
>
> You can try our latest snapshot build for Windows and en-US which have
> integrated all the IAccessible2 enhancements from
>
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe_1554003.exe
> .
>
>
> Try to install and check out the IAccessible 2 support. For more
> detailed question I recommend the qa mailing list.
>
> Again welcome at OpenOffice and thanks for your interest to help us with
> the accessibility testing to make AOO available to even more people.
> Your help is highly appreciated.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Juergen
>
> On 1/6/14 3:09 AM, Tyler Kavanaugh wrote:
> > Hello all:
> >
> > My name is Tyler Kavanaugh, and I am from Kansas, in the United States.
> > I would very much like to be a part of the OpenOffice project, with a
> > focus on QA/accessibility, as I am a blind user who uses screen-access
> > software to accomplish everyday tasks on the computer. I am aware that
> > the product recently (as of November or December 2013) finished its
> > implementation of MSAA/IAccessible2, and this has piqued my interest.
> > Where would you all suggest that I start?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Tyler
> >
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Re: Low vision

[Steve Yin]

Hi Wlada,

For IAccessible2 introduction, you can refer to the web page at
here<http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2>.
AOO gets IA2 support by migrating IAccessible2 feature from IBM Lotus
Symphony. You can use JAWS or NVDA for reading.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Vladislav Stevanovic <
stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yin,  IAccessible2 support - can you tell me more about that?
>
> Regards,
> Wlada
>
>
> 2013/12/17 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi Wlada,
> >
> > No new functionality for low vision users in the latest version. As for
> > other respects of accessibility, AOO gets IAccessible2 support now. I
> hope
> > this is helpful for you.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Vladislav Stevanovic <
> > stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I do not tracked discusion about that: does AOO get some new
> > functionality
> > > for those persons with low vision?
> > > Wlada
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



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Re: Low vision

[Steve Yin]

Hi Wlada,

No new functionality for low vision users in the latest version. As for
other respects of accessibility, AOO gets IAccessible2 support now. I hope
this is helpful for you.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Vladislav Stevanovic <
stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I do not tracked discusion about that: does AOO get some new functionality
> for those persons with low vision?
> Wlada
>



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[Accessibility] Call for fixing IA2 bugs

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

Stuart created a meta bug for tracking all IA2 issues. Now we have over ten
unresolved bugs. And I am working on 121761. After that I will focus on
123620, 123622, 123629.

But we still have no enough resources for fixing all issues in a short
time. So it is quite good if you have enthusiasm to work on these issues.
And If you have any problem, please let me know. Thanks.

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Re: [code] build breaker on Linux 64bit in introduced ia2 code

[Steve Yin]

Hi Oliver and Herbert,

Sorry for the break. Thank you all for fixing it so quickly!


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> kudos to Herbert.
>
> While I have written the below message Herbert has already provided the
> fix - see revision 1542228
>
> Steve, may be you can have an additional look at the unused parameters.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
> On 15.11.2013 12:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> can you please have look at the build breaker on Linux 64bit, found by
>> our corresponding Linux 64bit build bot.
>>
>> The build breaks in module accessibility.
>> The relevante build output is:
>> 
>> ...
>> Compiling: accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx
>> ...
>> /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
>> main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:
>> In member function 'virtual void
>> VCLXAccessibleList::ProcessWindowEvent(const VclWindowEvent&, bool)':
>> /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
>> main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:372:
>> error: cast from 'void*' to 'sal_uInt32' loses precision
>> /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
>> main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:
>> At global scope:
>> /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
>> main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:606:
>> warning: unused parameter 'bItemInserted'
>> /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
>> main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:606:
>> warning: unused parameter 'nIndex'
>> dmake:  Error code 1, while making
>> '../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/vclxaccessiblelist.obj'
>> 
>>
>> Until the next Linux 64bit build bot is started, the complete build
>> output can be found at [1].
>>
>> [1]
>> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/linux64/
>> main/accessibility/unxlngx6.pro/misc/logs/source.standard.txt
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>
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Re: Re : RE: Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean,

Maybe due to this issue<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643>.
I made a temp fix for the branch and integrated with the branch into the
trunk. You can try the next trunk build. Thanks.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:20 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My user is in the group named "administrator". It likely explains why I
> don't have a "run as admin" command in the context menu.
>
> The command you suggest works. But after a reboot, nothing changes. OOO
> stays inaccessible for NVDA. I don't understand, all the more since it has
> been worked a few months ago.
>
> An idea?
>
>  Message original 
>
> Sujet:
>
> Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal
>
> Date :
>
> Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:25:25 +0800
>
> De :
>
> Steve Yin  <mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com>
>
> Répondre à :
>
> dev@openoffice.apache.org
>
> Pour :
>
> dev@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
>
> Hi Jean,
>
> You can run the console with administrator privilege and type "regsvr32
> oleacc.dll" then press "Enter" key.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <
> mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I use Windows XP Pro, and now I am working on r1540658.
> >
> > regsvr2.exe /U UAccCOM.dl says: module not found.
> >
> > How should I register
> >
> >
> > oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll? Is it relevant on XP (the bug you mention
> > seems to be on W7).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 11/11/2013 14:43, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
> >
> >> Jean-Phillipe,
> >>
> >> Removal of earlier revisions of the ia2 branch may have corrupted the
> MSAA
> >> libraries.
> >>
> >> Have you unregistered UAccCOM.dll with a regsvr2.exe /U command, and
>  have
> >>
> >> you tried re-registering the oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll?
> >>
> >> Additional notes in issue  aoo#123640
> >> <
> >>
> >
> >  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123640>  .
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context: http://openoffice.2283327.n4.
> >>
> nabble.com/Accessibility-IA2-Integration-proposal-tp4655454p460.html
> >> Sent from the Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> >
> > accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients
> > visuels
> >
> > Mail: te...@accelibreinfo.eu
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Steve Yin
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 should be enabled automatically

[Steve Yin]

Agree with you. For AT detection, we use WM_GETOBJECT and
SPI_GETSCREENREADER flag. The check box is usefulness now and can be
removed from AOO Windows version.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> On 14.11.2013 04:34, Steve Yin wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Based on this issue <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643
>> >,
>>
>> IA2 feature and the status of the option about accessibility check box
>> should be enabled automatically when AOO detects screen reader running. Do
>> you agree with that? Thanks.
>>
>
> I don't think that we should change the check box.  If we can detect
> accessibility support easily (without loading large libraries or starting
> Java) then I would prefer the Linux way (did not check Mac).  On Linux
> there is no accessibility check box.  You activate or deactivate
> accessibility via the system.  If we can do that on Windows then we should
> do it and remove the checkbox.
>
> I looked at issue 123643.  The comments describe more than one way to
> detect accessibility support.  Which one is used by the commit (rev.
> 1541823).
>
> -Andre
>
>
>
>>
>
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 should be enabled automatically

[Steve Yin]

Hi Juergen,

Yes. This option will be automatically checked only when AOO (Windows
version) detects screen reader or other ATs running.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 11/14/13 7:16 AM, Liu Ping wrote:
> > +1
> > I agree that IA2 feature can be enabled automatically as default option
> > ,which enable screen readers and other
> > assistive technologies to work at beginning and convenient to most
> > people who be eager to need this feature
> >
>
> we should really differentiate, if AOO can detect a running screen
> reader or other assistive tools we can and should enable it. But only
> then and not by default.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Steve Yin 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Based on this issue <
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643
> >>> ,
> >> IA2 feature and the status of the option about accessibility check box
> >> should be enabled automatically when AOO detects screen reader running.
> Do
> >> you agree with that? Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Steve Yin
> >>
> >
>
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Re: draft blog post: Apache OpenOffice 4.1 to Bring Enhanced Accessibility Support

[Steve Yin]

That reads better. : )


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Marcus (OOo) 
> wrote:
> > Am 11/13/2013 09:12 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >
> >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Donald Whytock
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This will be something to post after Steve merges the code intro the
> >>>> trunk, which I understand will be soon:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_4_1_to
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have anything else to add?  A quote from an assistive
> >>>> technology vendor or accessibility expert would be good.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>   Looks good in general.  How does "vision-impaired" compare to "blind
> or
> >>> low-sight"?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Honestly, I'm not absolutely certain what the preferred term is these
> >> days.  I certainly don't want to cause offense by using the wrong
> >> words.  But I did see the term "blind or low-sight" on a website
> >> discussing assistive technologies.  If anyone (Stuart, maybe?) knows
> >> better, let me know.
> >
> >
> > I had a remarkable experience when I wrote something about sound in
> > StarOffice (yes, years ago) and how deaf people could work with it. The
> way
> > of how to explain it was wrong with the wording I used, I had to correct
> it
> > in in a policitcal correct way and give an apology to the group who
> wrote a
> > mail to point me to the error.
> >
> > Therefore I would say it's better to spend more time than you think
> first to
> > use the correct wordings.
> >
>
> I searched for answers and found this, from the American Foundation
> for the Blind:
>
> When you speak about someone with a disability, refer to the person
> and then to the disability. For example, refer to "a person who is
> blind" rather than to "a blind person."
>
> http://www.afb.org/section.aspx?SectionID=36&TopicID=163&DocumentID=2263
>
> Given those guidelines maybe we change the current:
>
> "Support for these interfaces enables screen readers and other
> assistive technologies to work with Apache OpenOffice, which in turn
> enables more productive use of OpenOffice by blind and low-vision
> users."
>
> to
>
> "Support for these interfaces enables screen readers and other
> assistive technologies to work with Apache OpenOffice, which in turn
> enables more productive use of OpenOffice users who are blind or have
> low-vision." ???
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > I'm sure Steve can lend a helping hand here.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean,

You can run the console with administrator privilege and type "regsvr32
oleacc.dll" then press "Enter" key.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <
mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use Windows XP Pro, and now I am working on r1540658.
>
> regsvr2.exe /U UAccCOM.dl says: module not found.
>
> How should I register
>
>
> oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll? Is it relevant on XP (the bug you mention
> seems to be on W7).
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Le 11/11/2013 14:43, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
>
>> Jean-Phillipe,
>>
>> Removal of earlier revisions of the ia2 branch may have corrupted the MSAA
>> libraries.
>>
>> Have you unregistered UAccCOM.dll with a regsvr2.exe /U command, and  have
>>
>> you tried re-registering the oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll?
>>
>> Additional notes in issue  aoo#123640
>> <
>>
>
>  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123640>  .
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://openoffice.2283327.n4.
>> nabble.com/Accessibility-IA2-Integration-proposal-tp4655454p460.html
>> Sent from the Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> -
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>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>
> accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients
> visuels
>
> Mail: te...@accelibreinfo.eu
>
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[Accessibility] IA2 should be enabled automatically

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

Based on this issue <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643>,
IA2 feature and the status of the option about accessibility check box
should be enabled automatically when AOO detects screen reader running. Do
you agree with that? Thanks.

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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

[Steve Yin]

Hi Rob,

For the defects introduced by IA2 feature, I think the possible areas that
will be impacted are UI, document editing area, graphic objects. And no
visible changes will be made to dialogs. Another possible area will be
affected is stability. But the most issues will show up only when the IA2
feature is activated. Thanks.


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Steve Yin  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.
> > Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
> > the branch to the trunk for involving more volunteers.
> >
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> This is excellent news.  It sounds like you've made great progress in
> this big task.
>
> I'll start on a blog post to describe the work, based on your
> information.  We can use the blog post to let users know that this
> capability is coming in AOO 4.1 and maybe to call for more volunteers
> to help test.
>
> A question for you:  Is there a possibility of these changes
> introducing new defects in other areas of the product?  If so it would
> be good to get your opinion on what areas we should re-test to find
> any defects earlier.   For example, I assume parsing of documents is
> not effect by these changes.  But should we look for visible changes
> to dialogs?  If there are new bugs, what is your best guess for where
> they would show up?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
>
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Re: ia2 Buildbot needs attention

[Steve Yin]

Based on Herbert suggestion, I will synchronize the branch with the latest
trunk. And the build issue will go away. :)


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Steve Yin  wrote:

> It shows "configure: error: Building SeaMonkey is supported with
> Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2005 only."
>
> Was the build bot env changed?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>
>> Steve, Herbert
>>
>> We've got another hang-up on the ia2 branch--3 days with no build of
>> r1539225.
>>
>> Looks like this might be related to  removal of SeaMonkey
>> <
>> http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/the-Seamonkey-has-left-the-building-tt4655461.html
>> >
>> .
>>
>> From the ia2 297 build error logs:
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/ia2-Buildbot-needs-attention-tp4655304p4655528.html
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>
>
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>
> Steve Yin
>



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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

Bug 123619 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123619) was
fixed. I think there is no critical bug in the current version. So I think
I can start the integration work soon. For any concern about the branch
ia2, It would be great if you could reply the mail with your comments.
Thanks.


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Steve Yin  wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> Could you tell us more detail about your configuration? Such as your
> operating system, the version number of the IA2 branch build? Thanks.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <
> mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I thought it was temporary or due to my conf, but what are conditions to
>> make the IA2 binary work? I've tested it for 2-3 binaries and it doesn't
>> work anymore on my computer. My user has aanin permissions. But when I open
>> OOo, I have as if they wouldn't be IA2, it stays really inaccessible. Some
>> ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Le 08/11/2013 19:14, Andrew Rist a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> On 11/7/2013 11:42 PM, Steve Yin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.
>>>>
>>> That's great news!
>>>
>>>> Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
>>>> the branch to the trunk for involving more volunteers.
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> -
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>>
>> accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients
>> visuels
>>
>> Mail: te...@accelibreinfo.eu
>>
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>>
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>
>
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>
> Steve Yin
>



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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean,

Could you tell us more detail about your configuration? Such as your
operating system, the version number of the IA2 branch build? Thanks.


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <
mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I thought it was temporary or due to my conf, but what are conditions to
> make the IA2 binary work? I've tested it for 2-3 binaries and it doesn't
> work anymore on my computer. My user has aanin permissions. But when I open
> OOo, I have as if they wouldn't be IA2, it stays really inaccessible. Some
> ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Le 08/11/2013 19:14, Andrew Rist a écrit :
>
>
>> On 11/7/2013 11:42 PM, Steve Yin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.
>>>
>> That's great news!
>>
>>> Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
>>> the branch to the trunk for involving more volunteers.
>>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> -
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>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>
> accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients
> visuels
>
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>
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Re: Greetings

[Steve Yin]

Hi Will,

Welcome to join us!


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Liu Ping  wrote:

> Hi will
>
> Welcome
>
> If you are interested in QA work , you may find some useful information:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html
>
> subscribing to the mailing list , you'll receive the various requests for
> help and you can choose how to contribute.
> Don't hesitate to send along any questions!
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Raphael Bircher  wrote:
>
> > Hi will
> >
> > Am 09.11.13 11:32, schrieb Will Blades:
> >
> >  Hello,
> >>
> >> Apologies for the rather late reply.
> >>
> > You have not to apologies. Everyone here does the work when he has time.
> > It's up to you to decide when and on what you work.
> >
> >  Thank you for your acceptance and kind words.
> >> I have been subscribed myself to both the dev and qa lists, and I
> probably
> >> will begin
> >>
> > This is a good start
> >
> >  by taking on reported bugs. I read the orientation document is rather
> >> extensive, but
> >> if you notice that I did not follow procedure or the like, kindly let me
> >> know .
> >>
> > I offer you to review your first issues, and mentoring you a little bit,
> > if you want. Simply write me a e-mail with the bugs you have commented.
> > Byside I'm also aviable on IRC: Channel freenode, Room: #
> > dev.openoffice.org my nick is rbircher.
> >
> > Good luck for your start
> >
> > Greetings Raphael
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
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Re: ia2 Buildbot needs attention

[Steve Yin]

It shows "configure: error: Building SeaMonkey is supported with Microsoft
Visual Studio .NET 2005 only."

Was the build bot env changed?


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Steve, Herbert
>
> We've got another hang-up on the ia2 branch--3 days with no build of
> r1539225.
>
> Looks like this might be related to  removal of SeaMonkey
> <
> http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/the-Seamonkey-has-left-the-building-tt4655461.html
> >
> .
>
> From the ia2 297 build error logs:
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
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[Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.
Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
the branch to the trunk for involving more volunteers.

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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Copy to aoo bugzilla admin for more help.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, James Teh  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
>
> On 4/11/2013 7:32 PM, Steve Yin wrote:
>
>> The produce ui is under the General product. Please check it.
>>
> Right, but there's an AccessBridge component under the UI product which
> seems more specific than just General -> UI or Calc/Writer -> UI. The [ia2]
> prefix helps to distinguish the bugs I'm filing, but it still seems odd for
> them to just be in a component as broad as UI.
>
> Jamie
>
>
> --
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> Director, NV Access Limited
> Email: ja...@nvaccess.org
> Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/
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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jamie,

The produce ui is under the General product. Please check it.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM, James Teh  wrote:

> I can't file bugs under the UI product now: "Sorry, entering a bug into
> the product ui has been disabled." For now, I've just entered bugs into the
> UI component of the relevant application product. However, is there
> somewhere else I should be entering these that is more specific to
> accessibility?
>
> For reference, I've just filed bugs 123619, 123620 and 123622. I have more
> to file in the coming days.
>
>
> Jamie
>
> On 14/10/2013 6:24 PM, Steve Yin wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We
>> need
>> QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.
>>
>> The source can be get from here:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
>> The Windows build can be get from here:
>> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2
>>
>> If you are interested in the AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
>> this mail. Thanks.
>>
>>
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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jamie,

I will focus on this issue later.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, James Teh  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> Unfortunately, I'm again seeing the problem with Writer being invisible if
> started via swriter.exe. Specifically:
>
>> When Writer starts, the main
>> window is invisible and isn't in the alt+tab task switcher or the
>> running applications bar. Furthermore, I can't see any text in the
>> document when I look at the object hierarchy. I can access the menus,
>> though.
>>
> This doesn't happen if I start Writer by opening soffice.exe and selecting
> Text document. It also doesn't happen for scalc.exe.
>
> I'm still seeing this crash on exiting Writer:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121761
> I've found other issues as well, but will file separate bugs for those.
>
> Jamie
>
>
> On 14/10/2013 6:24 PM, Steve Yin wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We
>> need
>> QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.
>>
>> The source can be get from here:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
>> The Windows build can be get from here:
>> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2
>>
>> If you are interested in the AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
>> this mail. Thanks.
>>
>>
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>
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Deadlock issue in sal module

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

I found a deadlock issue on Windows in sal module during IA2 development.
And there is a bug opened by Stephan nearly 4 years ago.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107562

After my investigation, it seems there is no need to call WaitForSingleObject
at all events. If you have any concerns about it, please let me know. If
there is no problem, I will fix it later.


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Re: [Call for review]123515 - Import the sample PPTX(with one slide) to AOO, the shape in slide is applied a default color incorrectly ( should be transparent)

[Steve Yin]

Hi Clarence,

After checking the feature in MSO and comparing with your patch, I found
that the "fill with background" cannot simply map to "no fill". Is there a
way to implement a real "fill with background" feature in AOO? Thanks.


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Clarence GUO wrote:

> Hi~
> I submitted a path for 123515
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123515.
> Root cause analysis and solution description please see my comment in above
> URL
> Please help to review.
> Thanks
>
> Clarence
>



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Re: Re[2]: [CWiki] new default access rights active

[Steve Yin]

Hi Andrea,

I was hoping that if you could count me in. Thanks.

Full name: Steve Yin


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Yakov Reztsov  wrote:

>
> >
> >Whitelisted:
> >
> >~liushenf Shenfeng Liu
> >
> >~yak (Yakov [Reztsov]) - note it's "yak" not "yakov"
> >
> >Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
> Thanks!
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>
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>



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Re: Re : [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean-Philippe,

Thank you for joining us! There are specific checklists for the
accessibility. Their rules will be integrated into specific QA tasks which
will be assigned to QA volunteers.


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> accelibreinfo (organization) and myself are interested in testing this
> evolution. Are there some precise criteria for QA? Some reference point?
> Anyway I will do tests and do feedbacks but do not hesitate to tell me if
> the feedback should have a particular form and method so that I forget
> nothing.
>
> I am so available, do not hesitate to tell me if you need particular tests
> and feedbacks.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> - Mail d'origine -
> De: Steve Yin 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:24:58 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing
> work
>
> Hi all,
>
> The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We need
> QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.
>
> The source can be get from here:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> The Windows build can be get from here:
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2
>
> If you are interested in the AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
> this mail. Thanks.
>
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>
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[Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We need
QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.

The source can be get from here:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
The Windows build can be get from here:
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2

If you are interested in the AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
this mail. Thanks.

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Re: [Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support -- looking forware to an (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot build of r1527279

[Steve Yin]

Hi Stuart,

r1527279 is building normally until now. Hope we can get a valid build
soon. : )




On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:27 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Steve,
>
>
> Steve Yin wrote
> > The compile errors of the branch ia2 were fixed. And the branch was
> > synchronized with the latest trunk.
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
>
> Wow, excellent that for your r1527279 build of the branch you've again
> synchronized with AOO trunk! With any luck we'll have a clean and current
> ia2 build to start IAccessibile2 QA with.
>
> So, we'll never get a buildbot run of r1526782, where the last nights
> attempt for 29 September again failed.
>
> Also, for the genearl QA and Devlopment community--is it too soon to start
> spinning Linux and OS X buildbot builds of the ia2 branch to start
> assessing
> impact implementing IAccessible2 framework may have on the other UAA
> dependent bridges--AT-SPI/ATK and NSAccessibility?
>
> Andrew R. -- anything to be done with the last failed r1526782 build to
> prepare for build against Steve's revised branch?
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support -- (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot currently failing

[Steve Yin]

The compile errors of the branch ia2 were fixed. And the branch was
synchronized with the latest trunk.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Steve Yin  wrote:

> An error occurred in the "editeng" module. I will check it soon.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>
>>
>> On 9/27/2013 6:44 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> Great news!  Once we have a useable build...
>>>
>>> I just checked and the current r1526782 based ia2 branch is failing
>>> snapshot
>>> Buildbot for "svn under cygwin"
>>>
>>> So the (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot for the ia2 branch again needs some
>>> attention.
>>>
>> just gave it some attention and it is running now...
>>
>> A.
>>
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support -- (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot currently failing

[Steve Yin]

An error occurred in the "editeng" module. I will check it soon.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Andrew Rist  wrote:

>
> On 9/27/2013 6:44 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Great news!  Once we have a useable build...
>>
>> I just checked and the current r1526782 based ia2 branch is failing
>> snapshot
>> Buildbot for "svn under cygwin"
>>
>> So the (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot for the ia2 branch again needs some attention.
>>
> just gave it some attention and it is running now...
>
> A.
>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support.

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

The branch ia2 was updated to rev 1519412. From this rev, the calc and
Impress got complete ia2 support. Please try it and give feedback here.
Thanks.


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Re: IA2 Branch r1519381 IAccessible2 testing - failed Buildbot

[Steve Yin]

Thank you all!


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Herbert Duerr  wrote:

> On 12.09.2013 05:21, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>
>> Look to again have a clean and installable build of the IA2 branch --
>> r1519381 (wef 2013-09-02)-- to start working against.
>>
>
> The latest builds #232 (forced by Andrew) and #233 (regular nightly build)
> were both successful [1] and built rev 1519381.
>
> [1] 
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/**openoffice/<http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/>
>
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Re: IA2 Branch r1519381 IAccessible2 testing - failed Buildbot

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

I just synchronized the branch with the trunk. Now I am just working on SC
and SD modules.

Copy this mail to Oliver for more help on the build bot. : )  Oliver,
please help to look at the build bot, thanks.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Andrew Rist  wrote:

> Looking at this now - we should be able to get this bot healthy again.
> A.
>
>
> On 9/8/2013 10:13 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>
>> Steve Y. has merged the AOO TRUNK into the IA2 branch SVN as r1519381.
>>
>> Anxious to resume QA work on IAccessibile2 implementation.
>>
>> Unfortunately, while it looks like the IA2 Buildbot job picked up the
>> change, it is failing with this error:
>>
>> 2 module(s):
>> apr
>> curl
>> need(s) to be rebuilt
>>
>> Reason(s):
>>
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7ia2/**build/main/curl
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7ia2/**build/ext_libraries/apr
>>
>> This builbot needs a little TLC.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
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Fwd: AOO numbering problem

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

We found an issue in AOO numbering support when opening OOXML format.
Please help to look at it and welcome to provide more detail information or
technical support. Thanks.


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From: Steve Yin 
Date: Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: AOO numbering problem
To: 張仁瀚 


Hi Yohey,

You are Welcome.
I am from China. We are compatriots. : )
I tested your sample file and got the same wrong result. But I found that
the numbering type of "一、二、三" in your sample file is from document number
formats, not from numbering library. There must be some differences between
these two categories in MSO. So I think it should be an incomplete support
issue for the OOXML in the current AOO version. You can file a bug for this
issue here. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

I sent this mail to the AOO dev mail list for more help. So I kept to reply
you in English. And I think we can contact each other in Chinese from now
on.

My sample file is in the attachment. It can be read by AOO correctly.
Please try it.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:43 AM, 張仁瀚  wrote:

> Hello Steve.
>
> Thanks for your help and sorry for that disturbing you in privacy.
> In fact, I cannot transform the numbers "一二三" successfully, but the others
> like "壹貳參" or "甲乙丙" is okay. About the language settings, I have done it
> completely by modifying every queer way into Chinese (Simplified). I also
> tried AOO English version and  Chinese (Simplified) version. But I got the
> same result just like what I described above.
>
> The attachment is my test file. It seems nothing wrong but maybe you could
> check whether the numbers also be transformed completely on your PC.  .
> Also maybe I can try your file to see if I will get the same error.
>
> By the way, I come from Taiwan. It seems that your might know Chinese. If
> you do, maybe we can send mail in Chinese next time. I think I could
> express much well :) .
>
> Thanks.
>
>   Yohey
>



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Numbering issue.docx
Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document

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Re: AOO 4.0 Release notes problem in numbering

[Steve Yin]

Hi Yohey,

My MSO version is 2010 64bit. The numbering "一、二、三、" was inserted from the
popup menu ->numbering library. Then the document was saved into the doc
and docx format.

Please make sure that the language settings of the AOO is correct. My
locale setting and the Asian language setting for document are "Chinese
(Simplified)".



On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:58 AM, 張仁瀚  wrote:

> Hello Steve,
>
> well, what's your version of MS office? I use the version 2010. But in fact
> the problem still existed as I tested it. Only the number "一二三" cannot be
> transformed correctly.
> I would like to know how you test it in detail. Just like how you enter or
> insert your numbers.
> Thanks for your help, this really disturbed me a lot.
>
> Regards,
>   Yohey.
>
>
> 2013/9/3 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi Yohey,
> >
> > I got the same wrong result on MS doc format. But using MS docx is OK.
> That
> > is consistent with the AOO 4.0 release notes "Support more
> Numbering&bullet
> > types in docx". Please check it.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 PM, 張仁瀚  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Recent days I have tried some improvement in the version 4.0 from
> release
> > > notes [1] . But I got a problem in my implementation.
> > > The item "Support more Numbering&bullet types in docx"  is under the
> > index
> > > "OOXML general". And that is where my question is.
> > >
> > > I use the function which is "numbering" to enter the following words in
> > MS
> > > office:
> > >
> > > 一. some words
> > >
> > > 二.  some words
> > >
> > > 三.  some words
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 壹、some words
> > >
> > > 貳、some words
> > >
> > > 參、some words
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 甲、some words
> > >
> > > 乙、some words
> > >
> > > 丙、some words
> > >
> > >
> > > And I saved it as docx. In fact, whatever I used doc or docx, I got the
> > > same result as I opened the doc or docx file with AOO:
> > >
> > > 1. some words
> > >
> > > 2.  some words
> > >
> > > 3.  some words
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 壹、some words
> > >
> > > 貳、some words
> > >
> > > 參、some words
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 甲、some words
> > >
> > > 乙、some words
> > >
> > > 丙、some words
> > >
> > > The problem is that Chinese number (一二三 is equal to 123) cannot be
> > convert
> > > completely in AOO.
> > > Does I got wrong understanding in this improvement or there is
> something
> > > wrong?
> > >
> > > Also, if this improvement is not talking about what I did above, how
> can
> > I
> > > contribute and improve my problem?
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >Yohey.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
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Re: AOO 4.0 Release notes problem in numbering

[Steve Yin]

Hi Yohey,

I got the same wrong result on MS doc format. But using MS docx is OK. That
is consistent with the AOO 4.0 release notes "Support more Numbering&bullet
types in docx". Please check it.


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 PM, 張仁瀚  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Recent days I have tried some improvement in the version 4.0 from release
> notes [1] . But I got a problem in my implementation.
> The item "Support more Numbering&bullet types in docx"  is under the index
> "OOXML general". And that is where my question is.
>
> I use the function which is "numbering" to enter the following words in MS
> office:
>
> 一. some words
>
> 二.  some words
>
> 三.  some words
>
>
>
> 壹、some words
>
> 貳、some words
>
> 參、some words
>
>
>
> 甲、some words
>
> 乙、some words
>
> 丙、some words
>
>
> And I saved it as docx. In fact, whatever I used doc or docx, I got the
> same result as I opened the doc or docx file with AOO:
>
> 1. some words
>
> 2.  some words
>
> 3.  some words
>
>
>
> 壹、some words
>
> 貳、some words
>
> 參、some words
>
>
>
> 甲、some words
>
> 乙、some words
>
> 丙、some words
>
> The problem is that Chinese number (一二三 is equal to 123) cannot be convert
> completely in AOO.
> Does I got wrong understanding in this improvement or there is something
> wrong?
>
> Also, if this improvement is not talking about what I did above, how can I
> contribute and improve my problem?
>
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>
>
> Thanks.
>Yohey.
>



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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

Thanks for paying close attention to IA2 work! I will resume the IA2
development at the beginning of September.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Jamie,
>
>
> James Teh wrote
> > I've since discovered that I can only reproduce this if I run Writer
> > directly; i.e. via the icon named "OpenOffice Writer" in the Start Menu
> > or by running swriter.exe. If I run the main OpenOffice application
> > (i.e. the icon named "OpenOffice" in the Start Menu or soffice.exe),
> > everything works as it should, even after I select to open a new text
> > document. If I open a file associated with OpenOffice, everything works
> > correctly also.
> >
> > Can you reproduce this by running Writer directly?
>
> Yes I get exactly the same result with this r1484083 based ia2 branch
> build.
>
> Except for the swriter.exe launcher, all the other components launch
> without
> issue as does the Start Center.  And like you, when Writer is launched from
> the start center, it comes up cleanly.
>
> On an initial launch from the Writer shortcut, or if running the writer.exe
> directly--the swriter.exe, soffice.exe, and soffice.bin will all run--but
> the writer session hangs.  Have to manually end the writer process from
> task
> manager.  A relaunch of any OpenOffice launcher or the start center panel
> results in a recovery panel that will not complete.
>
> A reset of user profile (i.e. delete %AppData%\Openffice ) is the clean way
> to return function, as edit of the XML recovery stanzas in the OpenOffice
> registrymodifications.xcu configuration file is not worth the hassle.  The
> user profile will rebuild to default, and just reactivate the Tools -->
> Options --> Accessibility --> Support assistive technology tools.
>
> This issue with the writer.exe launcher is not a problem on the AOO 4.0.0
> release, so should resolve when Steve Y. rebases the ia2 branch.
>  Meanwhile,
> best to simply not use the writer.exe launcher in working with the ia2
> branch.
>
> Stuart
>
>
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Re: Possible show stopper on Mac in RC2, please confirm

[Steve Yin]

This bug is reopened because I found a reproducible issue on Mac OS. And a
comment was added.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:

> When open Writer on Mac, menu Edit -> Paste is enabled
> incorrectly as default, click Paste, you will get an unexpected
>
> "Insert Section" dialog, after click "Insert" in this dialog, the
> application is hung.
>
> I saw this issue several times in RC1 on Windows (but not in
> RC1 with patch and RC2 on Windows so far), it now occurs
> more frequently in RC2 on Mac.
>
> I think it is a show stopper for Mac if it always reproduce,
> please be aware of it for confirmation and investigation.
>
> Here is the bug I opened,
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122780
>
>
> Regards,
> Yu Zhen
>



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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

[Steve Yin]

Jamie and Stuart,

Sorry for the slowness of the IA2 development in the current phase. And I
will continue to push the IA2 dev work after the AOO 4.0 release. The
Presentation and Spreadsheet IA2 support were proposed in the next release
(AOO 4.1). Thanks a lot for your understanding. : )


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Jamie,
>
> Steve Yin and folks do not push their ia2 branch dev work out very
> frequently. But I am sure they've been moving it along.  Just wish it were
> more transparent so we could catch any IAccessible2 or A11y standards
> issues
> earlier in the rework.
>
> Anyhow, the last build we had to work against was against r1484083 from May
> 18th--you have not missed anything.
>
> Simply, nothing newer has been checked back into SVN even if the buildbot
> was running to completion instead of erroring out as its done for quite
> some
> time.
>
> You can view the check-in status of the ia2 branch SVN at:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/ia2/
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

[Steve Yin]

Hi Stuart,

Fortunately, a new build of the ia2 branch was ready. : )
The wiki was updated, and more detail actions were added. Thanks.


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:47 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Sorry, horrible typo, make that
>
> ... it should have all of the work done on Sidebar through r1483767 so
> _THERE IS NO_ wasted effort there...
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Re: svn commit: r1476721 - /openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst

[Steve Yin]

Hi Ariel,

You are right!

The original intention of introducing these two headers is for exporting
the spelling check status in Symphony. But there is no need to merge these
lines into AOO. I will update the branch ASAP. Thanks!



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:22 AM,   wrote:
> > Author: steve_y
> > Date: Sun Apr 28 06:22:18 2013
> > New Revision: 1476721
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1476721
> > Log:
> > Fix a build dependency issue in editeng
> >
> > Modified:
> > openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst
> >
> > Modified: openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst
> > URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst?rev=1476721&r1=1476720&r2=1476721&view=diff
> >
> ==
> > --- openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst (original)
> > +++ openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst Sun Apr 28
> 06:22:18 2013
> > @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
> > -ed editeng :   L10N:l10n svtools xmloff linguistic NULL
> > +ed editeng :   L10N:l10n svtools sfx2 xmloff linguistic NULL
> >  ed editeng\prj
> nmake   -   all ed_prj NULL
>
> adding a dependency on sfx2 to editeng doesn't sound like a good idea.
> Even more when the errors:
>
>
> c:/build/ia2/main/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.cxx(87)
> : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'sfx2/viewfrm.hxx': No
> such file or directory
> make: ***
> [/cygdrive/c/build/ia2/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.o]
> Error 2
>
>
> c:/build/ia2/main/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.cxx(88)
> : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'sfx2/viewsh.hxx': No
> such file or directory
> make: ***
> [/cygdrive/c/build/ia2/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.o]
> Error 2
>
>
> are due to a copy&paste of two unused and unneedded headers.
>
> Regards
>
>
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[Accessibility] Can someone help to check the ia2 branch build?

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

I found that the branch build is broken by an error. It points out that the
error is in the file named TaskPanelFactory.cxx. But the file was deleted
and cannot be found on the current svn repository of the branch. Can
someone help to check the ia2 branch build? Thanks.

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[Accessibility] AOO Writer gets a better IA2 support now

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

The IA2 migration work for AOO is ongoing. We just finished a draft version
which can let Writer get a better IA2 support. Now the branch build is
ready for downloading. http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2

Please try it! And if you found issues or bugs, please send mails to the
aoo dev mail list or file them in AOO bugzilla.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Thanks!

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Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean,

As far as I know, this issue is not a known one. The latest AOO still
requires the JBA to work with on the Windows system. I suggest the user to
install the latest Symphony and NVDA until after the integration of the
branch "ia2" to replace the Symphony with the AOO.

I hope this will help you.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We've just had a feedback about the latest snapshot of OOo. It seems that
> the
> user has a problem using with Windows 8 and NVDA beta. Is that a known
> situation?
> The user doesn't has Symphony installed on his computer and not JBA. He
> tried
> running as admin.
>
> Thanks for your answer.
>
> Regards,
>
> JPM
>
> On mercredi 03 avril 2013 à 11:17:29 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > Hi Jean,
> >
> > Thanks for your work!
> >
> > The current build of the branch "ia2" is a developing version and ready
> for
> > UI testing only. So all the issues you found will be fixed gradually in
> the
> > future versions. Now we are working on the document level and will update
> > the branch periodically. And we plan to finished the main work of the
> > IAccessible2 migration before November. Then the branch will be
> integrated
> > into the trunk. I think the localization work is in the scope of the
> trunk.
> > So you will not have to localize it by yourself. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> > mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hf,
> > >
> > > I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of
> questions:
> > > is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact
> that
> > > the
> > > characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
> > > not yet
> > > perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could
> OOo
> > > make
> > > progress such features?
> > >
> > > Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm
> going to
> > > use
> > > OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > JPM
> > >
> > > On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > > > Jean,
> > > >
> > > > Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
> > > > provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
> > > IAccessible2
> > > > development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
> > > > download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
> > > > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
> > > done
> > > > from
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your support!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> > > > mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to
> deal
> > > > > with
> > > > > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's
> very
> > > > > cool if
> > > > > things are in progress. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks.
> Is
> > > there
> > > > > some
> > > > > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
> > > updated
> > > > > at
> > > > > this link? Is that a binary?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to
> code for
> > > > > this
> > > > > issue!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > JPM
> > > > >
> > > > > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> > > pesce...@apache.org
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
>

Re: Sidebar merged into trunk

[Steve Yin]

Hi Andre,

Thanks for your quick response. I definitely would like to provide
accessibility help on the sidebar. : )


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> On 11.04.2013 08:50, Steve Yin wrote:
>
>> Hi Andre,
>>
>> Should we add a new thing - accessibility? I suggest to evaluate or test
>> the sidebar's accessibility and do bug fix on the branch "ia2" after
>> finishing the IA2 migration.
>>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> We definitely have to take care of accessibility for the sidebar.  I
> started to take care of two aspects, keyboard focus traveling and high
> contrast mode but both need more work.  Regarding the support of the
> accessibility API I would gladly accept any help that you can offer.  Most
> panels should have accessibility support. but I don't know if that has been
> properly migrated.  The visible controls of the actual sidebar (tab bar,
> buttons, decks, panel containers) do not yet support the UAA but adding
> that should not be too hard.  If have worked on accessibility support for
> Impress before and have some experience.  But again, any help is
> appreciated.
>
> -Andre
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi community,
>>>
>>> the first phase of the sidebar development is complete.  The sidebar
>>> is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0
>>> release are now available.
>>>
>>> More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk.
>>> That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the
>>> sidebar.  It is active by default and ready for use.
>>>
>>> The next phase will concentrate on two things:
>>>
>>> - Improving usability and appearance.
>>>
>>> - Finding and fixing bugs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar
>>> and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't
>>> like.  If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if
>>> something like this is already known.  If not, please write a new
>>> issue for it.
>>> For everything else we have this mailing list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andre
>>>
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Re: Sidebar merged into trunk

[Steve Yin]

Hi Andre,

Should we add a new thing - accessibility? I suggest to evaluate or test
the sidebar's accessibility and do bug fix on the branch "ia2" after
finishing the IA2 migration.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> Hi community,
>
> the first phase of the sidebar development is complete.  The sidebar
> is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0
> release are now available.
>
> More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk.
> That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the
> sidebar.  It is active by default and ready for use.
>
> The next phase will concentrate on two things:
>
> - Improving usability and appearance.
>
> - Finding and fixing bugs.
>
>
> Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar
> and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't
> like.  If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if
> something like this is already known.  If not, please write a new
> issue for it.
> For everything else we have this mailing list.
>
> Best regards,
> Andre
>
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Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Hi Reina,

We tested the build of the branch "ia2" only on Windows 7, Vista and XP. So
I cannot ensure that the build can run successfully on Windows 8. And the
current build is still only ready for IA2 UI testing. Please do not run
testing on the object level or the other document content. Thanks.



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Waldorf PC  wrote:

> Hi:
>
> It is a relief that I am not the only one who has concerns about
> accessibility. Jennifer, thank you for jumping on board with this, as
> I have been swamped with my own work and all.
>
> I tried downloading Symphony, and it was a disaster. I never got the
> program to work, and it ended up causing registry problems. I could
> not even delete the program in the regular fashion by going through
> the control panel. I had to manually delete it and take it out of the
> registry. I have decided not to revisit Symphony and wait for the new
> release of Open Office. Since this test version is now available, I
> wish to test it out on my own machine. I am running Windows 8. Please
> let me know if it will work on this machine or if I will have to use
> another machine with an older operating system. I will run this
> release through a rigorous testing protocol and will be able to let
> you know if it is an assistive technology issue or a program issue,
> and I will provide you with a fix to bridge the gap.
>
> I am so glad we can all work together on this.
>
> Warm regards,
> Reina Grosvalet
>
>
>
> On 4/2/13, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL  wrote:
> > Hf,
> >
> > I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
> > is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact
> that
> > the
> > characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
> not
> > yet
> > perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo
> > make
> > progress such features?
> >
> > Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going
> to
> > use
> > OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > JPM
> >
> > On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> >> Jean,
> >>
> >> Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
> >> provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
> >> IAccessible2
> >> development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
> >> download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
> >> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
> done
> >> from
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your support!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> >> mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to
> deal
> >> > with
> >> > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's
> very
> >> > cool if
> >> > things are in progress. Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is
> >> > there
> >> > some
> >> > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
> >> > updated
> >> > at
> >> > this link? Is that a binary?
> >> >
> >> > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code
> for
> >> > this
> >> > issue!
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > JPM
> >> >
> >> > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> >> > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> pesce...@apache.org
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the
> >> > > > answer
> >> > > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi Jennifer,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Welcome!
> >&

Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean,

Thanks for your work!

The current build of the branch "ia2" is a developing version and ready for
UI testing only. So all the issues you found will be fixed gradually in the
future versions. Now we are working on the document level and will update
the branch periodically. And we plan to finished the main work of the
IAccessible2 migration before November. Then the branch will be integrated
into the trunk. I think the localization work is in the scope of the trunk.
So you will not have to localize it by yourself. Thanks.



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hf,
>
> I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
> is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact that
> the
> characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
> not yet
> perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo
> make
> progress such features?
>
> Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going to
> use
> OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
>
> Regards,
>
> JPM
>
> On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > Jean,
> >
> > Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
> > provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
> IAccessible2
> > development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
> > download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
> > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
> done
> > from
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
> >
> > Thanks for your support!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> > mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to deal
> > > with
> > > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's very
> > > cool if
> > > things are in progress. Thanks!
> > >
> > > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is
> there
> > > some
> > > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
> updated
> > > at
> > > this link? Is that a binary?
> > >
> > > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code for
> > > this
> > > issue!
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > JPM
> > >
> > > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> pesce...@apache.org
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the
> answer
> > > > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Jennifer,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Welcome!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration
> for
> > > AOO
> > > > >> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful
> information
> > > > >> here:
> > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> > > > >> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
> > > > >> .
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
> > > > >> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It
> Blind.
> > >  My
> > > > >>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
> > > Office
> > > > >>> to
> > > > >>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
> > > other
> > > > >>> very
> > > > >>>

Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Jean,

Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO IAccessible2
development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have done
from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.

Thanks for your support!


On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to deal
> with
> accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's very
> cool if
> things are in progress. Thanks!
>
> For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is there
> some
> URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be updated
> at
> this link? Is that a binary?
>
> Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code for
> this
> issue!
>
> Best regards,
>
> JPM
>
> On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti  >wrote:
> >
> > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the answer
> > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Jennifer,
> > >>
> > >> Welcome!
> > >>
> > >> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for
> AOO
> > >> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
> > >> here:
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> > >> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
> > >> .
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
> > >> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.
>  My
> > >>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
> Office
> > >>> to
> > >>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
> other
> > >>> very
> > >>> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
> > >>> doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with
> in
> > >>> regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
> > >>> Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you!
> > >>>
> > >>> Jennifer McKinley
> > >>> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
> > >>> doitblind.com
> > >>> 505-382-2641
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> --**--**-
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
>
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Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jennifer,

I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for AOO. If possible, you can
download and evaluate the Windows version Symphony's accessibility firstly.
The download link:
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home. Thanks.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley <
j...@doitblind.com> wrote:

>   Good Morning,
>
> Thank you for including us on this list.
>
> John and I started Do It Blind because of the lack of accessibility for
> blind and visually impaired people for the majority of programs.  Although
> many programs say they are accessible, we have found they are minimally
> accessible and do not make things very easy or friendly for blind users.
> John is 100% blind and I am fully sighted.  We are a 2 person team taking
> on the world of accessibility.
> When we launched doitblind.com, we immediately started receiving requests
> to script many different programs.  We script programs that are most
> commonly requested and able to be scripted for blind accessibility.  When
> you visit doitblind.com, you will see where you are able to download the
> different scripts.  We currently charge a one time minimal fee for the
> different programs.
> We have had requests to make Open Office blind accessible and decided to
> look into it.  What we would like to do is write the scripts to make Open
> Office accessible.  We would then put the scripts on our website and allow
> people to purchase the scripts which would make Open Office more accessible
> than it currently is.
> As far as programing languages are concerned, we do JAWS scripting.  As
> far as 508 compliance goes, we can aid programmers in making screen readers
> natively supported.  If there is currently someone working on
> accessibility, we would love to be in touch with them.  Thank you!  We hope
> everyone has a wonderful afternoon!
>
> Jennifer McKinley
> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
> j...@doitblind.com
> doitblind.com
> 505-382-2641
>
>  *From:* Steve Yin 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:30 PM
> *To:* dev@openoffice.apache.org ; orc...@apache.org
> *Cc:* Waldorf PC  ; j...@doitblind.com
> *Subject:* Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office
>
>  Hi Reina,
>
> Did you install the Symphony successfully? If not, please try to remove
> the Symphony work space firstly. The path of it is like this: C:\Documents
> and Settings\username\IBM\Lotus\Symphony. Thanks.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Hello Reina,
>>
>> I trust you are well.
>>
>> It would be useful to have the rplauncher.og that is left when your
>> install of Symphony fails to open.
>>
>> Another person has expressed interest in accessibility for blind users.
>> I have included Jennifer on this note. I don't know how much the work of
>> "Do It Blind" is tied to 508 Compliance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>> > My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
>> > business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
>> Office to
>> > make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other
>> very
>> > popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
>> > doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
>> > regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
>> > Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>> > Jennifer McKinley
>> > Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
>> > doitblind.com
>> > 505-382-2641
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Cc: 'Waldorf PC'
>> Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office
>>
>> A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2.  I also
>> have obtained the rcplauncher.log, which is rather interesting.
>>
>> B. When you are able to get Symphony operating, there is a feature
>> that will be interesting to understand the accessibility of.  There is
>> a sidebar on the right of the Symphony window that includes a variety
>> of dialogs and a way to select among them.  This is also a feature that
>> is being worked up for Apache OpenOffice 4.x.
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>



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Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

[Steve Yin]

Hi Reina,

Did you install the Symphony successfully? If not, please try to remove the
Symphony work space firstly. The path of it is like this: C:\Documents and
Settings\username\IBM\Lotus\Symphony. Thanks.


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Hello Reina,
>
> I trust you are well.
>
> It would be useful to have the rplauncher.og that is left when your
> install of Symphony fails to open.
>
> Another person has expressed interest in accessibility for blind users.  I
> have included Jennifer on this note. I don't know how much the work of "Do
> It Blind" is tied to 508 Compliance.
>
> Regards,
>
>  - Dennis
>
> > My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
> > business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office
> to
> > make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other
> very
> > popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
> > doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
> > regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
> > Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Jennifer McKinley
> > Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
> > doitblind.com
> > 505-382-2641
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: 'Waldorf PC'
> Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office
>
> A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2.  I also
> have obtained the rcplauncher.log, which is rather interesting.
>
> B. When you are able to get Symphony operating, there is a feature
> that will be interesting to understand the accessibility of.  There is
> a sidebar on the right of the Symphony window that includes a variety
> of dialogs and a way to select among them.  This is also a feature that
> is being worked up for Apache OpenOffice 4.x.
>
> [ ... ]
>
>
> ---------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>


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Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )


On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the answer
> since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
>
>
> On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>> Welcome!
>>
>> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for AOO
>> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
>> here:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
>> .
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
>> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
>>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office
>>> to
>>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other
>>> very
>>> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
>>> doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
>>> regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
>>> Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jennifer McKinley
>>> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
>>> doitblind.com
>>> 505-382-2641
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jennifer,

Welcome!

My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for AOO
Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
Thanks.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley <
j...@doitblind.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office to
> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other very
> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
> doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
> regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
> Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jennifer McKinley
> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
> doitblind.com
> 505-382-2641




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Steve Yin

Re: [Accessibility] IA2 migration status

[Steve Yin]

Hi Simon,

Thanks for you response.

We planed to deliver the first ia2 "ready for QA" version at the end of
June. As what you mentioned, Writer will be the first part to support IA2.



On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Steve,
>   Thanks for your update for good progress!
>   When do you expect that we can start testing on the branch?
>   I understand that it will take long time to finish the migration and
> enablement,  but I think maybe we can do early testing for the implemented
> parts. e.g. for Writer, when you finished it.
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
> 2013/3/6 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > THe AOO IAccessible2 migration work is ongoing. Now we have finished
> about
> > 15% in the phase 3.
> >
> > The IA2 migration work for Writer will have the highest priority. Once we
> > finished the UT, we will update the branch.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Stuart,

I am back from the Spring Festival. Sorry for the late reply.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:05 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Nothing substantive yet in working through the Windows build of the ia2
> branch. Should we build against Linux and OSX and be testing for impact on
> ATK/AT-SPI and NSAccessibility User Interface?
>

Agreed. Testing the branch on Linux and OSX is necessary.


>
> And, with QA and testing of the ia2 branch proceeding what mechanism
> should folks use for reporting and tracking issues on the ia2 branch
> builds?


> Should we stay with PM and ML exchanges, or start to use Bugzilla at
> issues.apache.org/ooo?  I believe that starting with BZ tracking now
>  provides continuity upon merge of branch back into AOO4.00.
>

Bugzilla may be the best choice.


> And, if into Bugzilla, would suggest a note in your AOO 4.0 IAccessible2
> release planning wiki that  QA participants and casual users report in
> Bugzilla categorized for consistency as against:
>
>Product: UI
>Component: AccessBridge
>Version: AOO4.00-dev
>

Good suggestion. Thanks.


>
> Stuart
>
> =-=-=
>
> Sidebar--the legacy IAccessible2 enhancement bug could probably be revised
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107914
>
> And here is a generic BZ search for accessibility issues
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&resolution=---&short_desc=msaa%20accessible%20iaccessible%20iaccessible2%20accessibility&short_desc_type=anywordssubstr&order=component%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severity&query_based_on=
>
>


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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Stuart,

Please refer to the wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Tips+for+branch+ia2


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
wrote:

> Hi Stuart,
>
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:25:13AM +, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> > Steve, Ariel
> >
> > Installed Ariel's posted ia2 branch build "Run as Administrator", and
> > also captured a verbose install log.
> >
> > AOO350m1(Build:9611)  -  Rev. 1441343 2013-02-04 20:38:26 -0300 (lun,
> > 04 feb 2013)
> >
> > Windows 7 sp1 64-bit Oracle Java JRE 1.7u11
> >
> > Verified the UaccCOM.dll is registered at:
> >
> >
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Components\B4197A678F2F566AC9CE342EB80665B2
> > as 346FD3847C37D3440BBCC0FF600F4DEA with a string value of C:\Program
> > Files (x86)\Apache OpenOffice 3\program\UAccCOM.dll
> >
> > However, when running the ia2 branch as a user in the Administrators
> > group,
>
> Note that I am also in the Administrators category, but it didn't work,
> I had to run OpenOffice as Administrator (right-click on the Desktop
> shortcut, select "Run as administrator").
>
> > and monitoring with a11y's AccProbe Eclipse RCP probe as well
> > as the MS AccEvent I am not seeing IAccessible2 events, only MSAA. The
> > UI Access mode of AccEvent listings are also very sparse.
> >
> > Kind of interesting is that AccProbe shows all only a few of the msaa
> > components "howFound" from Navigating the Tree--with most "howFound"
> > values of AtPoint:java.awt.Point from browsing the GUI. No event
> > tracking in the probes--and it follows that NVDA is mute.
> >
> > Am I missing something? Ariel on your Windows box are you running an
> > Oracle 7 JRE, or Just the JDK 6 you built against?
>
> I have several Java versions, OpenOffice is configured to run with JRE
> 7.
>
> > Going to try removing JRE 1.7u11 and backing up to 1.6u39 to see if
> > that has an impact, but if IAccessibile2 is functional--should not
> > need a JRE, right?
>
> When running as a normal user (even in the Administrators category),
> OpenOffice was using Java, the ia2 component and COM were not even
> loaded; running the program as administrator made ia2 work.
>
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Ariel,

Well done! Thanks!


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 03:36:05PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote:
> > Hi Ariel,
> >
> > Can you try to run it as administrator? I am afraid that the user
> privilege
> > cannot modify the registry on Windows 7. The AOO branch build need to
> > register the UaccCom.dll as a COM component.
> >
> > I tried NVDA under Win 7 x64 and Win XP as administrator. It works fine.
>
> You were right, now it works, even toolbar icons are read now, nice work!
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Ariel,

Can you try to run it as administrator? I am afraid that the user privilege
cannot modify the registry on Windows 7. The AOO branch build need to
register the UaccCom.dll as a COM component.

I tried NVDA under Win 7 x64 and Win XP as administrator. It works fine.

Thanks.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 02:54:19PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote:
> > Hi Ariel,
> >
> > Checking support assistive technology tools is unnecessary for the branch
> > build. Did you run the AOO build with administrator privilege?
>
> No, I launched it from the start menu on Windows 7, as normal user.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Ariel,

Checking support assistive technology tools is unnecessary for the branch
build. Did you run the AOO build with administrator privilege?


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 01:35:04PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote:
> > Hi Ariel,
> >
> > Thanks for your build!
> > The bug you mentioned is about a JAB issue of JAVA 1.7. The IAccessible2
> > bridge does not relate to JAVA. You can simple enable ia2 on the branch
> AOO
> > build by running a AT tool such JAWS, NVDA or AccProbe. AOO
> > will automatically enable the IA2 bridge.
>
> I tried it with NVDA version 2012.3.1 (looks like a date, I took it from
> their About dialog).
>
> What I wanted to mean is that the behaviour described in the bug is
> reproducible with ia2:
>
> - create a new Writer document
> - select Edit - Find & Replace...
>
> NVDA reads the controls in the "Find & Replace..." dialog when
> I position the mouse over the control, but if a travel the dialog using
> the TAB key, NVDA does not read any control. On the other Windows
> applications, when a control gets the focus traveling with the TAB key,
> NVDA reads it.
>
> I attached the VS2008 debugger to the soffice.bin process,
> winaccesibility.dll and UAccCOM.dll are not listed among the loaded
> modules. IAccesible2Proxy.dll, minHook.dll and nvdaHelperRemote.dll,
> from NVDA, are loaded.
>
> May I missed something in the NVDA set up, or is there something we have
> to configure on AOO at runtime? I already checked Tools - Options...
> - AOO - Accessibility - Miscellaneous options - Support assistive
> technology tools (program restart required)
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Ariel,

Thanks for your build!
The bug you mentioned is about a JAB issue of JAVA 1.7. The IAccessible2
bridge does not relate to JAVA. You can simple enable ia2 on the branch AOO
build by running a AT tool such JAWS, NVDA or AccProbe. AOO
will automatically enable the IA2 bridge.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 11:36:39PM +, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > Great work!  Hope to be able to get to work on QA of the ia2 branch soon.
> >
> > >From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com]
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:10 PM
> > 
> > >Yes, the branch "ia2" is ready for QA now. The earlier the
> > >power users involve, the faster project progress we can expect.
> >
> > Since we are a while out from a nightly build incorporating the ia2
> branch, we'll
> > need to roll our own. Any particular configuration controls you'd
> recommend to
> > have in place for QA for builds of the ia2 branch for Windows OS?
> Something
> > similar to  the Software requirements you'd posted for doing a Symphony
> build
> > (
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code#Building_Symphony_on_Windows
> )
> >
> > Any chance of having Oliver-orw at apache.org--or one of your IBM
> Beijing team,
> > cobble together  and post a Windows build of the ia2 branch to
> standardize any QA work.
>
>
> I uploaded my build to http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/ia2/
>
> I've played with https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121510
> and still find it broken, but as I don't know much about accessibility,
> I leave it to you to find out :)
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



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Steve Yin

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Stuart,

Welcome!

The configuration of the ia2 branch is same with the trunk.
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows

But we need Visual C++ 2008 Professional with parameters"--enable-activex"
and"--enable-atl" to compile the branch. And I plan to upload the
developer-snapshots to a space for QA.

Inspect and AccEvent can only show the MSAA stuff. AccProbe can fully show
MSAA and IA2 information.

Yes, NVDA is a recommend screen reader for IA2 testing. If Jamie can
provide utilities to community, it couldn't be better.

Thanks!


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:36 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Great work!  Hope to be able to get to work on QA of the ia2 branch soon.
>
> >From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:10 PM
> 
> >Yes, the branch "ia2" is ready for QA now. The earlier the
> >power users involve, the faster project progress we can expect.
>
> Since we are a while out from a nightly build incorporating the ia2
> branch, we'll
> need to roll our own. Any particular configuration controls you'd
> recommend to
> have in place for QA for builds of the ia2 branch for Windows OS?
> Something
> similar to  the Software requirements you'd posted for doing a Symphony
> build
> (
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code#Building_Symphony_on_Windows
> )
>
> Any chance of having Oliver-orw at apache.org--or one of your IBM Beijing
> team,
> cobble together  and post a Windows build of the ia2 branch to standardize
> any QA work.
>
> Finally, noted your exchange with Simon Liu
>
> >From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Friday Jan 25, 2013 6:03 AM
> 
> >For the AOO IAccessible2 testing tools, I think a screen reader which can
> >support IA2 is required. We recommand JAWS for IA2 testing. And for the
> IA2
> >attributes or events information testing, AccProbe is preferred.
>
> Of course those only cover Linux testing. For IAccessibility2 testing of
> ia2 in
> Windows, the QA and testers would probably need Inspect.exe and
> AccEvent.exe from  the Microsoft Windows SDK as those are the best tools
> for monitoring MSAA/IAccessible and UI Automation.
>
> Also,  in addition to JAWS, a current build of NVDA would be helpful. And
> I'm sure
> Jamie Teh at NV Access has some solid Python utilities for use with
> exposing
> events in Windows
>
> Stuart Foote
>



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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 bridge and UI related changes were submitted on the branch "ia2"

[Steve Yin]

Hi Pedro,

Yes, the sidebar should support not only IA2 but the whole ACC feature. But
I think it is not a dependency, sidebar and its ACC support work are
parallel.

Thanks!


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:

> Just curious ...
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
> > Da: Andre Fischer
>
> >
> > Am 01.02.2013 16:20, schrieb Shenfeng Liu:
> >>  Steve,
> >> Great work!
> >
> > Yes, great work.  I was not expecting this phase to be completed so soon.
> >
> > -Andre
> >
>
>
> I guess in Symphony, and now in AOO, the sidebar is somehow
> related (a dependency perhaps) to the IA2 UI work?
>
> I am really impressed on how the pieces are starting to fit
> together. You guys are great!
>
> Pedro.
>



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Steve Yin

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Steve,

Yes, the branch "ia2" is ready for QA now. The earlier the power users
involve, the faster project progress we can expect.

Good idea! I hope NVDA dev team can join AOO IA2 dev work now. NVDA and
Symphony had ever corroborated for a while in 2010, they are very
professional and enthusiastic.

Your initial testing is welcome. It will be helpful for IA2 QA work.

I am sorry that I did not attend the event. I hope we can meet in the near
future. : )

Thanks.


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Steve Lee  wrote:

> Hi Steve, thanks Don
>
> It's good to hear you have progressed so far already.
>
> Is the work in a state ready for testing by some screen reader users
> who are very technical?
>
> If you have binaries or they are easy enough create I suggest we bring
> in the NVDA dev team in now or very soon. They have been wanting IA2
> in [A]OO for a long time, but in it's absence have been recommending
> Symphony to their users; the Java Access Bridge is a real pain for
> their users to install. They will obviously give a very thorough
> testing and should engage well at a deep technical level. One of the
> NVDA contributors has provided the Arabic support so we'd get broad
> extra testing of IA2 with i18n and RTL languages. If you feel you are
> ready then let me know and I will make the introductions.
>
> http://www.nvda-project.org/
>
> Otherwise how can I help? I have restricted cycles for the next week
> or 2. I could do some initial 'gorilla testing'.
>
> PS Steve did we meet in Boston at a Mozilla/GNOME a11y event?
>
> Steve Lee
> Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>
>
> On 1 February 2013 14:29, Steve Yin  wrote:
> > Hi Steve and Don,
> >
> > Thanks Don. Welcome Steve Lee! Now we can do more on AOO accessibility
> > testing, not only IA2. : )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Donald Harbison 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Steve Yin,
> >>
> >> Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started.
> >> He's
> >> new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to
> >> the
> >> accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
> >> for the testing process.
> >>
> >> Take it away Steve (Lee),
> >>
> >> /don
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Diego Valle,
> >> >
> >> > Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
> >> > We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we
> >> > can
> >> > work together at the beginning.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
> >> > diegogvalleros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello
> >> > >
> >> > > My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in
> Quintana
> >> > Roo,
> >> > > Mexico.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a
> >> > > QA
> >> > > volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started
> >> > > programming
> >> > > OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my
> country
> >> > > and
> >> > > the region where I live.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > >
> >> > > Diego Valle
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin 
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be
> done
> >> > > > in
> >> > a
> >> > > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and
> ensure
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> >> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please
> reply
> >> > this
> >> > > > mail. Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Best Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Steve Yin
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Steve Yin
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
>



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[Accessibility] IA2 bridge and UI related changes were submitted on the branch "ia2"

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

IAccessible2 for UI on the branch "ia2" is ready for QA now.

SVN: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/

-- 
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Steve Yin

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Steve and Don,

Thanks Don. Welcome Steve Lee! Now we can do more on AOO accessibility
testing, not only IA2. : )



On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Donald Harbison wrote:

> Hi Steve Yin,
>
> Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started. He's
> new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to the
> accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
> for the testing process.
>
> Take it away Steve (Lee),
>
> /don
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Diego Valle,
> >
> > Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
> > We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we
> can
> > work together at the beginning.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
> > diegogvalleros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana
> > Roo,
> > > Mexico.
> > >
> > > I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
> > > volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
> > > OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country
> and
> > > the region where I live.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Diego Valle
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin 
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done
> in
> > a
> > > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure
> the
> > > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
> > this
> > > > mail. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Steve Yin
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



-- 
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Steve Yin

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Diego Valle,

Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we can
work together at the beginning.


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
diegogvalleros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
> My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana Roo,
> Mexico.
>
> I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
> volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
> OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country and
> the region where I live.
>
> Regards
>
> Diego Valle
>
>
> 2013/1/25 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
> > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> >
> > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
> > mail. Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



-- 
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Steve Yin

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi Simon,

For the AOO IAccessible2 testing tools, I think a screen reader which can
support IA2 is required. We recommand JAWS for IA2 testing. And for the IA2
attributes or events information testing, AccProbe is preferred.

Link for AccProbe:
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yweb/util/accprobe/
Link for JAWS:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/jaws-product-page.asp

The demo JAWS is fully functional, but require a computer reboot after 40
minutes if you wish to continue using the product.

As an IAccessble2 QA volunteer, you may need to know how to use JAWS, such
as the JAWS functions and their short cut keys. Using AccProble can view
the IA2 attributes and events. The document for IAccessible2 API can be
found here
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2.
In short, for the accessibility testing, what we need is to simulate blind
users, try to find no accessible parts of the application and fix them.

Thanks.


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Steve,
>   Thanks very much for your work on the Accessibility development work!
>   For the calling for Accessibility QA volunteers, I wonder if there is any
> skill requirement, or tool that we prefer to use in testing?
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
> 2013/1/25 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
> > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> >
> > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
> > mail. Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



-- 
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Steve Yin

[Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

[Steve Yin]

Hi all,

The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2

If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
mail. Thanks.

-- 
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Steve Yin

Re: IAccessible2

[Steve Yin]

Hi Simon,

Thanks for your notification. The wiki was updated.


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Steve,
>   Great progress!
>   Could you please update the status on the wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2?
>   Thanks!
>
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
>
> 2012/12/17 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > IAccessible2 bridge related changes were just delivered into cws "ia2".
> The
> > branch can be accessed from
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/. It is not
> ready
> > for test now.
> > Does anyone interest in it? Any suggestions or comments are welcome.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Steve Yin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A branch named "ia2" was created for AOO IAccessible2 development.
> > >
> > > The development plan can be found here:
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Yin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



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Re: IAccessible2

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

IAccessible2 bridge related changes were just delivered into cws "ia2". The
branch can be accessed from
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/. It is not ready
for test now.
Does anyone interest in it? Any suggestions or comments are welcome.


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Steve Yin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A branch named "ia2" was created for AOO IAccessible2 development.
>
> The development plan can be found here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>
>


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IAccessible2

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

A branch named "ia2" was created for AOO IAccessible2 development.

The development plan can be found here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2

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Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

[Steve Yin]

Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO
> > 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
> > Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a
> branch
> > for development?
> >
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do
> you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a
> bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so.
> Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure
> and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work.
>
> Good to see progress on this important integration.
>
> Juergen
>
>


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IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

[Steve Yin]

Hi,

I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO
4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch
for development?

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Steve Yin