Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 20.08.23 um 13:16 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
Apache OpenOffice is FULLPRODUCTNAME. 


I can’t remember where I saw just “OpenOffice” off the top of my head, 
but I’ll draw your attention to it when I come across it again.


We often use it out of convenience (PRODUCTNAME). The name change was in 
2012 with AOO becoming a TLP.


But I really have no time for this discussion anymore. Maybe others have 
more time? ;-)




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2023-08-20 14:13, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 20.08.23 um 13:05 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:

The product *is* Apache OpenOffice.
Thank you for correcting me! That is the answer, then. (There must 
have been a historical change that slipped my view. We still have 
some places in the code where it is just “OpenOffice.”)


Apache OpenOffice is FULLPRODUCTNAME.

Regards,

   Matthias



2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:
Personally, I think we have much more important things to do than 
discussing about a logo change...
I don’t think we need to approach light-weight tasks as this one in 
either/or terms. Otherwise, agreed, it is a minor question.

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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

Apache OpenOffice is FULLPRODUCTNAME. 


I can’t remember where I saw just “OpenOffice” off the top of my head, 
but I’ll draw your attention to it when I come across it again.


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2023-08-20 14:13, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 20.08.23 um 13:05 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:

The product *is* Apache OpenOffice.
Thank you for correcting me! That is the answer, then. (There must 
have been a historical change that slipped my view. We still have 
some places in the code where it is just “OpenOffice.”)


Apache OpenOffice is FULLPRODUCTNAME.

Regards,

   Matthias



2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:
Personally, I think we have much more important things to do than 
discussing about a logo change...
I don’t think we need to approach light-weight tasks as this one in 
either/or terms. Otherwise, agreed, it is a minor question.

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 Aivaras Stepukonis 

Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Am 20.08.23 um 13:05 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:

The product *is* Apache OpenOffice.
Thank you for correcting me! That is the answer, then. (There must 
have been a historical change that slipped my view. We still have some 
places in the code where it is just “OpenOffice.”)


Apache OpenOffice is FULLPRODUCTNAME.

Regards,

   Matthias



2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:
Personally, I think we have much more important things to do than 
discussing about a logo change...
I don’t think we need to approach light-weight tasks as this one in 
either/or terms. Otherwise, agreed, it is a minor question.

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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:

The product *is* Apache OpenOffice.
Thank you for correcting me! That is the answer, then. (There must have 
been a historical change that slipped my view. We still have some places 
in the code where it is just “OpenOffice.”)


2023-08-20 13:51, Matthias Seidel rašė:
Personally, I think we have much more important things to do than 
discussing about a logo change...
I don’t think we need to approach light-weight tasks as this one in 
either/or terms. Otherwise, agreed, it is a minor question.

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 Aivaras Stepukonis 

Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 20.08.23 um 12:39 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:
One. The circle R is there because Apache OpenOffice is a registered 
trademark in the US and other jurisdictions.


Being registered and having “®” in the logo are two separate things. 
There is no legal requirement or necessity to include “®” in the logo 
of a registered trademark and, as far as I see, most companies that 
operate registered trademarks do not include the aforementioned sign 
in their logos.


2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:
Having Apache present shows where the project is. We do have issues 
with trademark violations and also who trademarks on variants one 
example is OpenOffice.de which either simply republishes our software 
or for Windows will also install unfriendly software that no one wants.


The things you’re mentioning here should be address elsewhere in the 
documentation, not in the logo. The logo is there for clear and 
instant /product/ identification. The product is OpenOffice, not Apache.


The product *is* Apache OpenOffice.



2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:
A better version in SVG would be great, but please don’t change the 
text.


I’m reaffirming my suggestion to remove “Apache” and “®” from the logo 
for the reasons I’ve specified in an earlier email. We’d need to vote 
for that, though.


Personally, I think we have much more important things to do than 
discussing about a logo change...


This project has *very* limited resources.

Regards,

   Matthias



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2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2023, at 6:06 AM, Aivaras 
Stepukonis  wrote:


Hi Corentin,


What are the reasons or arguments for the change?


I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and 
effective for communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the 
“Apache” and “®” from it, as both these elements crowd the logo, 
weakening the focus, and ultimately break the simplicity and 
modernity of the /initial/ logo (it was a stylistic regression to 
insert them). Here’s a quick 
comparison.
One. The circle R is there because Apache OpenOffice is a registered 
trademark in the US and other jurisdictions.


Two. Having Apache present shows where the project is. We do have 
issues with trademark violations and also who trademarks on variants 
one example is OpenOffice.de which either simply republishes our 
software or for Windows will also install unfriendly software that no 
one wants.


A better version in SVG would be great, but please don’t change the 
text.


Best,
Dave



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2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. 
I don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be 
implemented in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 
4.1.15. What do you think ?

Cordially,
Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)


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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:
One. The circle R is there because Apache OpenOffice is a registered 
trademark in the US and other jurisdictions.


Being registered and having “®” in the logo are two separate things. 
There is no legal requirement or necessity to include “®” in the logo of 
a registered trademark and, as far as I see, most companies that operate 
registered trademarks do not include the aforementioned sign in their logos.


2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:
Having Apache present shows where the project is. We do have issues 
with trademark violations and also who trademarks on variants one 
example is OpenOffice.de which either simply republishes our software 
or for Windows will also install unfriendly software that no one wants.


The things you’re mentioning here should be address elsewhere in the 
documentation, not in the logo. The logo is there for clear and instant 
/product/ identification. The product is OpenOffice, not Apache.


2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:

A better version in SVG would be great, but please don’t change the text.


I’m reaffirming my suggestion to remove “Apache” and “®” from the logo 
for the reasons I’ve specified in an earlier email. We’d need to vote 
for that, though.


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2023-08-20 00:03, Dave Fisher rašė:


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 19, 2023, at 6:06 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  wrote:

Hi Corentin,


What are the reasons or arguments for the change?


I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and effective for 
communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the “Apache” and “®” from it, as 
both these elements crowd the logo, weakening the focus, and ultimately break the 
simplicity and modernity of the /initial/ logo (it was a stylistic regression to 
insert them). Here’s a quick 
comparison.

One. The circle R is there because Apache OpenOffice is a registered trademark 
in the US and other jurisdictions.

Two. Having Apache present shows where the project is. We do have issues with 
trademark violations and also who trademarks on variants one example is 
OpenOffice.de which either simply republishes our software or for Windows will 
also install unfriendly software that no one wants.

A better version in SVG would be great, but please don’t change the text.

Best,
Dave



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2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:

Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I don't not 
know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented in the next 
minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think ?
Cordially,
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2023, at 6:06 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Corentin,
> 
> 
> What are the reasons or arguments for the change?
> 
> 
> I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and effective for 
> communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the “Apache” and “®” from 
> it, as both these elements crowd the logo, weakening the focus, and 
> ultimately break the simplicity and modernity of the /initial/ logo (it was a 
> stylistic regression to insert them). Here’s a quick comparison 
> .

One. The circle R is there because Apache OpenOffice is a registered trademark 
in the US and other jurisdictions.

Two. Having Apache present shows where the project is. We do have issues with 
trademark violations and also who trademarks on variants one example is 
OpenOffice.de which either simply republishes our software or for Windows will 
also install unfriendly software that no one wants.

A better version in SVG would be great, but please don’t change the text.

Best,
Dave

> 
> 
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> 
> 2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I don't 
>> not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented in the 
>> next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think ?
>> Cordially,
>> Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)
>> 
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

Thanks Matthias!


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2023-08-19 20:54, Matthias Seidel rašė:


Hi Aivaras,


Just open a Pull Request for that...


Regards,


   Matthias


Am 19.08.23 um 15:13 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:


Speaking of the logo image on the website, we should change its 
format to SVG to make it look sharp regardless of the browser zoom 
factor.



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2023-08-19 16:06, Aivaras Stepukonis rašė:


Hi Corentin,


What are the reasons or arguments for the change?


I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and 
effective for communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the 
“Apache” and “®” from it, as both these elements crowd the logo, 
weakening the focus, and ultimately break the simplicity and 
modernity of the /initial/ logo (it was a stylistic regression to 
insert them). Here’s a quick comparison 
.



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2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. 
I don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be 
implemented in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 
4.1.15. What do you think ?

Cordially,
Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)


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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Aivaras,


Just open a Pull Request for that...


Regards,


   Matthias


Am 19.08.23 um 15:13 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:


Speaking of the logo image on the website, we should change its format 
to SVG to make it look sharp regardless of the browser zoom factor.



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2023-08-19 16:06, Aivaras Stepukonis rašė:


Hi Corentin,


What are the reasons or arguments for the change?


I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and effective 
for communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the “Apache” 
and “®” from it, as both these elements crowd the logo, weakening the 
focus, and ultimately break the simplicity and modernity of the 
/initial/ logo (it was a stylistic regression to insert them). Here’s 
a quick comparison 
.



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2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. 
I don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be 
implemented in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 
4.1.15. What do you think ?

Cordially,
Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)


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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

Speaking of the logo image on the website, we should change its format 
to SVG to make it look sharp regardless of the browser zoom factor.



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2023-08-19 16:06, Aivaras Stepukonis rašė:


Hi Corentin,


What are the reasons or arguments for the change?


I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and effective 
for communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the “Apache” 
and “®” from it, as both these elements crowd the logo, weakening the 
focus, and ultimately break the simplicity and modernity of the 
/initial/ logo (it was a stylistic regression to insert them). Here’s 
a quick comparison 
.



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2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I 
don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be 
implemented in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. 
What do you think ?

Cordially,
Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)


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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

Hi Corentin,


What are the reasons or arguments for the change?


I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and effective 
for communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the “Apache” and 
“®” from it, as both these elements crowd the logo, weakening the focus, 
and ultimately break the simplicity and modernity of the /initial/ logo 
(it was a stylistic regression to insert them). Here’s a quick 
comparison 
.



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2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I 
don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be 
implemented in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. 
What do you think ?

Cordially,
Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)


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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Vittal Sher]

Dear,

I may not know the protocols of this forum, but brand logo change for me
means a disconnect from the roots of AOO.

Regards,
Sher

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 8:17 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> As I wrote, rebranding could be done with a major version.
>
> The OpenOffice wordmark is a registered trademark, the ASF spent a lot
> of money on it.
>
> I can only repeat: Time is better spent on an icon set for Dark Mode.
> This what AOO *really* needs.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
> Am 17.08.23 um 16:31 schrieb Corentin Verbrèghe:
> > Hi, I especially don't want to change the seagulls because I know they
> are important and represent OOo then AOO since creation. On the other hand
> I think that the wordmark can be changed while keeping the seagulls.
> Cordially, Manjiro
> >
> >
> > 
> > De: Matthias Seidel
> > Envoyé: Jeudi 17 août 2023 16:25
> > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Objet: Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am 16.08.23 um 23:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> >> Hi Manjiro
> >>
> >>> On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin Verbrèghe<
> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe
> >> Yes, we do see your messages.
> >>
> >>>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
> >>>> don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be
> implemented
> >>>> in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you
> think
> >> A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor
> release.
> > 4.1.15 is a micro release. 4.2.0 would be the next minor release.
> >
> > Rebranding *could* be done with a major release (5.0).
> >
> >> In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with
> the white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the
> Trademark for this project.
> > Our brand and logo is recognized all over the world.
> >
> > I would be careful to change it...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >  Matthias
> >
> >> I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Pedro
> >>
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Matthias Seidel]

As I wrote, rebranding could be done with a major version.

The OpenOffice wordmark is a registered trademark, the ASF spent a lot 
of money on it.


I can only repeat: Time is better spent on an icon set for Dark Mode. 
This what AOO *really* needs.


Regards,

   Matthias

Am 17.08.23 um 16:31 schrieb Corentin Verbrèghe:

Hi, I especially don't want to change the seagulls because I know they are 
important and represent OOo then AOO since creation. On the other hand I think 
that the wordmark can be changed while keeping the seagulls. Cordially, Manjiro



De: Matthias Seidel
Envoyé: Jeudi 17 août 2023 16:25
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Objet: Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

Hi,

Am 16.08.23 um 23:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi Manjiro


On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin Verbrèghe  
wrote:


Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe

Yes, we do see your messages.


Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think

A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor release.

4.1.15 is a micro release. 4.2.0 would be the next minor release.

Rebranding *could* be done with a major release (5.0).


In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
for this project.

Our brand and logo is recognized all over the world.

I would be careful to change it...

Regards,

 Matthias


I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.

All the best,
Pedro

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RE: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Jürgen Lange]

+1

Am 17. August 2023 16:31:33 MESZ schrieb "Corentin Verbrèghe" 
:
>Hi, I especially don't want to change the seagulls because I know they are 
>important and represent OOo then AOO since creation. On the other hand I think 
>that the wordmark can be changed while keeping the seagulls. Cordially, Manjiro
>
>
>
>De: Matthias Seidel
>Envoyé: Jeudi 17 août 2023 16:25
>À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>Objet: Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal
>
>Hi,
>
>Am 16.08.23 um 23:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> Hi Manjiro
>>
>>> On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin 
>>> Verbrèghe  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe
>> Yes, we do see your messages.
>>
>>>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
>>>> don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
>>>> in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think
>> A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor 
>> release.
>
>4.1.15 is a micro release. 4.2.0 would be the next minor release.
>
>Rebranding *could* be done with a major release (5.0).
>
>> In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
>> white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
>> for this project.
>
>Our brand and logo is recognized all over the world.
>
>I would be careful to change it...
>
>Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
>> I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Pedro
>>
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RE: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Corentin Verbrèghe]

Hi, I especially don't want to change the seagulls because I know they are 
important and represent OOo then AOO since creation. On the other hand I think 
that the wordmark can be changed while keeping the seagulls. Cordially, Manjiro



De: Matthias Seidel
Envoyé: Jeudi 17 août 2023 16:25
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Objet: Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

Hi,

Am 16.08.23 um 23:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Manjiro
>
>> On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin 
>> Verbrèghe  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe
> Yes, we do see your messages.
>
>>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
>>> don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
>>> in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think
> A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor 
> release.

4.1.15 is a micro release. 4.2.0 would be the next minor release.

Rebranding *could* be done with a major release (5.0).

> In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
> white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
> for this project.

Our brand and logo is recognized all over the world.

I would be careful to change it...

Regards,

Matthias

> I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.
>
> All the best,
> Pedro
>
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Am 16.08.23 um 23:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi Manjiro


On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin Verbrèghe  
wrote:

  
Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe

Yes, we do see your messages.


Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think

A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor release.


4.1.15 is a micro release. 4.2.0 would be the next minor release.

Rebranding *could* be done with a major release (5.0).


In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
for this project.


Our brand and logo is recognized all over the world.

I would be careful to change it...

Regards,

   Matthias


I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.

All the best,
Pedro

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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Dave Fisher]

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> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Manjiro
> 
>> On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin Verbrèghe 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe
> 
> Yes, we do see your messages.
> 
>>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
>>> don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
>>> in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think
> 
> A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor 
> release.

Agreed.
> 
> In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
> white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
> for this project.

Logo Trademark is not a major concern or a blocker. The graphic trademarks that 
Sun and Oracle registered are for the OpenOffice.org logo and are mostly 
expired. The ASF focuses are brand name trademarks.

The concern with a new logo design is the many places it is used. A new design 
is 1% of the work.

Inspire us with your concept and we’ll see.

Best,
Dave

> 
> I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.
> 
> All the best,
> Pedro
> 
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Manjiro

> On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin Verbrèghe 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe

Yes, we do see your messages.

> > Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
> > don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
> > in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think

A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor release.

In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
for this project.

I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.

All the best,
Pedro

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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Corentin Verbrèghe]

Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe

Le lun. 14 août 2023 à 17:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) <
corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
> don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
> in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think
> ?
> Cordially,
> Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)
>
>

AOO Brand new logo proposal

[Manjiro5]

Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I don't not 
know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented in the next 
minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think ?
Cordially,
Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)


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